Re: [gentoo-user] jffs2 on gentoo

2008-03-15 Thread Florian Philipp

On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 18:27 +, James wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a firewall that is built pretty minimally on a P3 and
 and old 4 gig ide disk:
 
 /dev/hda3  2068348   1668104400244  81% /
 /dev/hda1   100728 40452 60276  41% /boot
 
 I have a 4 gig Cf card (sandisk) and a ide-cf card that should
 make the CF card look like an ide hard drive.
 
 I've been searching for a wiki or something that describes the general
 sequence of events to migrate the existing gentoo system to the
 CF/ide disk, with no luck.
 
 I did find this page:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/Mounting_a_block_device_with_JFFS2
 
 
 But it seems vague(outdated) and missing many steps. Or
 am I confused? I'm just looking for some outline or verbose
 steps to replace an ide drive on a system with a CF/ide drive
 and jffs2, as I have many systems that I'd like to do this with, 
 for core reliability on minimalistic gentoo servers. I plan
 on having additional space on these systems (when needed)
 via NFS.
 
 
 Any help or ideas are greatly appreciated.
 
 
 James
 

As far as I know you won't need jffs2 (or any other fs for flash
memory). It is meant to be used on embedded devices that directly access
the flash memory. In your case, the CF-disk takes care of wear leveling.
Just use ext2. However, you could still get problems because, as far as
I know, wear leveling needs to be tuned for the FS and most probably no
one tuned the CF-disk for ext2. Maybe you could use fat instead...


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Re: [gentoo-user] jffs2 on gentoo

2008-03-15 Thread dexters84

Florian Philipp pisze:

On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 18:27 +, James wrote:
  

Hello,

I have a firewall that is built pretty minimally on a P3 and
and old 4 gig ide disk:

/dev/hda3  2068348   1668104400244  81% /
/dev/hda1   100728 40452 60276  41% /boot

I have a 4 gig Cf card (sandisk) and a ide-cf card that should
make the CF card look like an ide hard drive.

I've been searching for a wiki or something that describes the general
sequence of events to migrate the existing gentoo system to the
CF/ide disk, with no luck.

I did find this page:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Mounting_a_block_device_with_JFFS2


But it seems vague(outdated) and missing many steps. Or
am I confused? I'm just looking for some outline or verbose
steps to replace an ide drive on a system with a CF/ide drive
and jffs2, as I have many systems that I'd like to do this with, 
for core reliability on minimalistic gentoo servers. I plan

on having additional space on these systems (when needed)
via NFS.


Any help or ideas are greatly appreciated.


James




As far as I know you won't need jffs2 (or any other fs for flash
memory). It is meant to be used on embedded devices that directly access
the flash memory. In your case, the CF-disk takes care of wear leveling.
Just use ext2. However, you could still get problems because, as far as
I know, wear leveling needs to be tuned for the FS and most probably no
one tuned the CF-disk for ext2. Maybe you could use fat instead...
  
I did this sort of system a while ago. I've used 1GB card with gentoo 
and cf-ide adapter. There are some tricky parts that nobody mentions.
One of them is that I wasn't able to boot from my 1GB hard drive when 
it was connected via 80 pin ide cable, I've dig up some old 40 pin ata 
cable and it worked.
Other things you have to remeber concern file system usage, you musn't 
create swap partition, disable local syslog, log rotation, turn 
everything except desired daemons etc.


regards
dexter


[gentoo-user] jffs2 on gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread James
Hello,

I have a firewall that is built pretty minimally on a P3 and
and old 4 gig ide disk:

/dev/hda3  2068348   1668104400244  81% /
/dev/hda1   100728 40452 60276  41% /boot

I have a 4 gig Cf card (sandisk) and a ide-cf card that should
make the CF card look like an ide hard drive.

I've been searching for a wiki or something that describes the general
sequence of events to migrate the existing gentoo system to the
CF/ide disk, with no luck.

I did find this page:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Mounting_a_block_device_with_JFFS2


But it seems vague(outdated) and missing many steps. Or
am I confused? I'm just looking for some outline or verbose
steps to replace an ide drive on a system with a CF/ide drive
and jffs2, as I have many systems that I'd like to do this with, 
for core reliability on minimalistic gentoo servers. I plan
on having additional space on these systems (when needed)
via NFS.


Any help or ideas are greatly appreciated.


James

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Re: [gentoo-user] jffs2 on gentoo

2008-03-14 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:27:22 + (UTC)
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have a firewall that is built pretty minimally on a P3 and
 and old 4 gig ide disk:
 
 /dev/hda3  2068348   1668104400244  81% /
 /dev/hda1   100728 40452 60276  41% /boot
 
 I have a 4 gig Cf card (sandisk) and a ide-cf card that should
 make the CF card look like an ide hard drive.
 
 I've been searching for a wiki or something that describes the general
 sequence of events to migrate the existing gentoo system to the
 CF/ide disk, with no luck.
 
 I did find this page:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/Mounting_a_block_device_with_JFFS2
 
 
 But it seems vague(outdated) and missing many steps. Or
 am I confused? I'm just looking for some outline or verbose
 steps to replace an ide drive on a system with a CF/ide drive
 and jffs2, as I have many systems that I'd like to do this with, 
 for core reliability on minimalistic gentoo servers. I plan
 on having additional space on these systems (when needed)
 via NFS.
 
 
 Any help or ideas are greatly appreciated.
 
 
 James
 

You shouldn't need to do anything special - just copy all files over
exactly, and then set up GRUB on the CF card.  

Your biggest problem is you need to cut 75% from your installation.
Delete portage, logs, and so on to do so.  You can mount portage from
NFS later.  You might also have to uninstall X and all desktop
environments to get it that small -- assuming you can do so, it's a
good idea.  
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