Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
On 4/5/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 05 April 2006 13:49, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash': You sent two copies of your message, one signed, the other not. You also didn't publish your public key on any keyserver that my kmail polls for keys (I think I poll 6 servers, though at least 3 of other shares keys among themselves, too). So that's what people are talking about whenever they say there's gonna be a public key signing! I've been idly wondering what that could be. Okay... that makes sense now. No, a public key signing is when you verify that the key(s) provided by the keyserver match the person they are supposed to. The keyserver provides a key to you based on it's ID, and the key itself contains what emails address it can be attached to, but that's don't tell you that *I* signed it. You'd have to talk face-to-face with me (or some other pre-secured method) to know that *I* uploaded that key. Anyone can upload a key purporting to be from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then send a message signed with that key. (Keys are essentially random, and anyone can send a mail with the From header saying [EMAIL PROTECTED]. In the most paranoid case, mail TO [EMAIL PROTECTED] [assuming it isn't a send-only email address] can be intercepted by anyone with physical or root access to the computer pointed to by the MX record of volumehost.net. Yeah, no system is foolproof. This message is validly singed, although probably by a key you don't trust (nor should you until to verify the key actually belongs to the person it claims to). Most key servers use hardened linux or SE Linux, right? Since that is what they're supposed to be for? I think I could scrape together another cheap-o server to make into my own key server... that'd be cool. If nothing else it'd be nice to play with it a bit : ) Most keyservers were up and running before hardened or SE Linux was available, but may have been upgraded. They are supposed to be difficult to break into and/or spoof, just like any public server, but they are *NOT* a source of trust. They accept and provide keys without any tests. They are a convenient publishing method, they are *NOT* part of the trust equation. Yeah, I was just thinking Hardened Linux would be a good choice b/c it's more resistant to some cracker breaking in and screwing stuff up all over the place. Good data in, good data out; bad data in, bad data out is the keyserver, but I don't want cracker pinhead to take the data and make it bad. If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh I honestly hope you're just joking. Really, the world gets much scarier when that is true... Check the Gmane archives if you don't believe me. Ciaran said it and has yet to even take notice of my signature quoting him. Hell, sometimes I almost believe it. In my most cynical moments, I think we should stop helping people install Gentoo, just so we have some minimum competency requirement for users. Yeah, there is a significant advantage to having competent users, however, when you make that distinction you narrow your target audience to so few people... Then, I realize that I probably wouldn't have the wonderful Gentoo system I have now without the support of the other Gentoo users; I'd probably be running Debian. :/ I was a good person and learned all I could on Debian before trying Gentoo. That's why you don't see me asking questions like what's bash and where's the start menu? Luckily for you, that's where I picked up what few mailing-list manners I have ; ) You should have seen my posts before... scary. -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
On 4/4/06, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 April 2006 19:33, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash': PS: I'm playing with this GPG stuff... I want to see if any of you can use [verify] this. I'm just curious... I had some nut case ghosting off of my domain and email and then emailing some friends. I was not happy. Someone suggested signing my messages. So, I'm trying. Tell me if I'm doing it right if it's conveinient. You sent two copies of your message, one signed, the other not. You also didn't publish your public key on any keyserver that my kmail polls for keys (I think I poll 6 servers, though at least 3 of other shares keys among themselves, too). So that's what people are talking about whenever they say there's gonna be a public key signing! I've been idly wondering what that could be. Okay... that makes sense now. Don't laugh - it was my very first try and encryption. This message is validly singed, although probably by a key you don't trust (nor should you until to verify the key actually belongs to the person it claims to). Most key servers use hardened linux or SE Linux, right? Since that is what they're supposed to be for? I think I could scrape together another cheap-o server to make into my own key server... that'd be cool. If nothing else it'd be nice to play with it a bit : ) -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh I honestly hope you're just joking. Really, the world gets much scarier when that is true... withdraws into own little programmer world where everything is written in C and MS doens't exsist -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
On 4/4/06, Bo Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 02:33, Lord Sauron wrote:
[SNIP]
So I now use the theme livecd-2006.0 Just my $0.02, but it's sorta
difficult to change themes. Soon as I'm more bash literate, I'll try
to make a script to change themes in a easier manner
(lsauron_cngsplshthm [theme], perhaps? I dunno... Mind of a
programmer, once more). I counted 2 places I have to change to change
themes:
/etc/splash splashutils_geninitramfs... // generate new initramfs file
/boot/grub/menu.lst // point to it, and make sure kernel command line
args are nice and happy
[SNIP]
I guarantee nothing... ;) :
#!/bin/bash
RES=1400x1050
THEME=${1}
splash_geninitramfs ${THEME} -r ${RES} -g /boot/fbsplash -v
sed -i -e 's/theme:[a-z0-9.-]*/theme:'${THEME}'/' /boot/grub/menu.lst
Hmm... I'll have to play around with that in KDevelop and see if I
can make it guaranteeable... that'd be a good project for a nut like
me...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
I was a good cookie and went and tried my best. I did see some signs of success, however, they're not all complete... no pictures. The one sign of success was that the resolution was at [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is a good sign. However, I think that was more attributable to my recompile of the kernel, which I'm happy to say I'm reletively expert at now. I can make menuconfig and make make install my way around now, so that's good news. On 4/2/06, Bo Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash I followed these instructions, however, something didn't work, because there were no pretty pictures : ( I did appreciate the increased resolution, however. The instructions I took were pretty simple: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash#Non-genkernel_users Then I: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash#Non-genkernel_users and then I modified /boot/grub/menu.lst: localhost ~ # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst default 0 timeout 7 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 initrd /fbsplash there is the change title Old Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda3 title Failsafe root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 However, there are no graphics. To correct this, I'm going to try and run through the list another time, however, if anyone sees something wrong, please tell me. Oh, and I know there's a descrepency between the names made by splash_geninitramfs... and what menu.lst points to. I created a more generically named file to facilitate easy switching between themes by just generating a new initramfs of the same name whenever I want. I thought I was being rather clever, personally... I couldn't do neat tricks like that in windows, so I'm really having fun! Thanks for any help! -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 20:48, Lord Sauron wrote: [SNIP] and then I modified /boot/grub/menu.lst: localhost ~ # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst default 0 timeout 7 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 initrd /fbsplash there is the [SNIP] So now you have told it where to find the theme files. Now you just need to alter your kernel line to specify what theme to use and in which mode. An example is given in [1]. But to view full documentation of kernel parameters for splash type in a terminal (this assumes that you have splashutils installed): # zcat -c /usr/share/doc/splashutils*/kernel_parameters.gz | less Also I have just added two sections to the howto i.e. [2] and [3]. [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gensplash#GRUB_Example [2] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gensplash#View_contents_of_initramfs [3] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gensplash#Choosing_a_theme -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
Yeah, I read you. I found that during lunch. It works now : ) On 4/4/06, Bo Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 04 April 2006 20:48, Lord Sauron wrote: [SNIP] and then I modified /boot/grub/menu.lst: localhost ~ # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst default 0 timeout 7 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 initrd /fbsplash there is the [SNIP] So now you have told it where to find the theme files. Now you just need to alter your kernel line to specify what theme to use and in which mode. An example is given in [1]. But to view full documentation of kernel parameters for splash type in a terminal (this assumes that you have splashutils installed): # zcat -c /usr/share/doc/splashutils*/kernel_parameters.gz | less Also I have just added two sections to the howto i.e. [2] and [3]. [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gensplash#GRUB_Example [2] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gensplash#View_contents_of_initramfs [3] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_gensplash#Choosing_a_theme -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
To be a bit more verbose... I downloaded the web page to disk so I could toy with it during lunch, when I'm not connected to the internet. After about ten reboots I finally had it nailed down. My Windoze friends are gonna hate this... they've always regarded Window's bootup graphics as making windows superior in some way or another. I think they've just let their minds be harmed by all the years of windows ; ) So I now use the theme livecd-2006.0 Just my $0.02, but it's sorta difficult to change themes. Soon as I'm more bash literate, I'll try to make a script to change themes in a easier manner (lsauron_cngsplshthm [theme], perhaps? I dunno... Mind of a programmer, once more). I counted 2 places I have to change to change themes: /etc/splash splashutils_geninitramfs... // generate new initramfs file /boot/grub/menu.lst // point to it, and make sure kernel command line args are nice and happy but otherwise it was rather painless. The initial install was painful... when you have to do a manual rc-update add or whatever it is, that's a sign that you need to make a script of some kind... my personal feelings, of course. So thanks for the help - Probably wouldn't have gotten this far by myself (I have a habit of bouncing off the same walls until someone explains to me why my thinking isn't right, even though it is quite logical). PS: I'm playing with this GPG stuff... I want to see if any of you can use [verify] this. I'm just curious... I had some nut case ghosting off of my domain and email and then emailing some friends. I was not happy. Someone suggested signing my messages. So, I'm trying. Tell me if I'm doing it right if it's conveinient. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To be a bit more verbose... I downloaded the web page to disk so I could toy with it during lunch, when I'm not connected to the internet. After about ten reboots I finally had it nailed down. My Windoze friends are gonna hate this... they've always regarded Window's bootup graphics as making windows superior in some way or another. I think they've just let their minds be harmed by all the years of windows ; ) So I now use the theme livecd-2006.0 Just my $0.02, but it's sorta difficult to change themes. Soon as I'm more bash literate, I'll try to make a script to change themes in a easier manner (lsauron_cngsplshthm [theme], perhaps? I dunno... Mind of a programmer, once more). I counted 2 places I have to change to change themes: /etc/splash splashutils_geninitramfs... // generate new initramfs file /boot/grub/menu.lst // point to it, and make sure kernel command line args are nice and happy but otherwise it was rather painless. The initial install was painful... when you have to do a manual rc-update add or whatever it is, that's a sign that you need to make a script of some kind... my personal feelings, of course. So thanks for the help - Probably wouldn't have gotten this far by myself (I have a habit of bouncing off the same walls until someone explains to me why my thinking isn't right, even though it is quite logical). - -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEMw9zHcNVi48i054RAi3sAJ0cV7/YUJVybJiPjGBtL2T5SsFINwCfeDEu fFpF1fK9A/3ocaiuN3J6tus= =g3tf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 02:33, Lord Sauron wrote:
[SNIP]
So I now use the theme livecd-2006.0 Just my $0.02, but it's sorta
difficult to change themes. Soon as I'm more bash literate, I'll try
to make a script to change themes in a easier manner
(lsauron_cngsplshthm [theme], perhaps? I dunno... Mind of a
programmer, once more). I counted 2 places I have to change to change
themes:
/etc/splash splashutils_geninitramfs... // generate new initramfs file
/boot/grub/menu.lst // point to it, and make sure kernel command line
args are nice and happy
[SNIP]
I guarantee nothing... ;) :
#!/bin/bash
RES=1400x1050
THEME=${1}
splash_geninitramfs ${THEME} -r ${RES} -g /boot/fbsplash -v
sed -i -e 's/theme:[a-z0-9.-]*/theme:'${THEME}'/' /boot/grub/menu.lst
PS: I'm playing with this GPG stuff... I want to see if any of you
can use [verify] this. I'm just curious... I had some nut case
ghosting off of my domain and email and then emailing some friends. I
was not happy. Someone suggested signing my messages. So, I'm
trying. Tell me if I'm doing it right if it's conveinient.
Message was signed on 1/1-1970 00:59 with unknown key 0x8F22D39E.
The validity of the signature cannot be verified.
[SNIP]
End of signed message
I guess not...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 19:33, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash': PS: I'm playing with this GPG stuff... I want to see if any of you can use [verify] this. I'm just curious... I had some nut case ghosting off of my domain and email and then emailing some friends. I was not happy. Someone suggested signing my messages. So, I'm trying. Tell me if I'm doing it right if it's conveinient. You sent two copies of your message, one signed, the other not. You also didn't publish your public key on any keyserver that my kmail polls for keys (I think I poll 6 servers, though at least 3 of other shares keys among themselves, too). This message is validly singed, although probably by a key you don't trust (nor should you until to verify the key actually belongs to the person it claims to). -- If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability. -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh pgpSCeBNs1ypM.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
Hello once more. I was good this time and did look through the documentation. In order to get the beautification on Gentoo I wanted (the nice graphics during the install and stuff) I researched it and installed splashutils. However, installation wasn't enough. There's a way to activate it. I found how to choose which theme I wanted - it was rather straightforward, a symlink to a folder. However, I don't know how to really activate the darn thing such that it'll work. I went to the software's homepage and found a installation document which basically said that it differs from distro to distro. If there were instructions for me, I didn't see them. Anyways, I hope you can help me here. I hope I'm not all that annoying, either. I know I am rather elementary, however, I was a good Dark Lord this time and I did do my homework and tried my best to work the problem by myself before asking for help - I really did! -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Beautification - Splash
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
