Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server
On Monday 17 February 2014 04:12 AM, Edward M wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530 Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: rvices to customers, so compatibility is definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are between Oracle JDK OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on Google are old and make sense only for Java 6. Hello, To my understanding, Oracle JDK binary is created from the source code released from the OpenJDK project with some Oracle's own propriety code. The other difference is Oracle's JDK binary is released under Oracle Technology Network Developer License Terms for JAVA EE SDK,JDK where as OpenJDK code is under GPL + linking exceptions. More info at: https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_7_questions_answers Best regards ED So it would be correct to say that for Java EE applications, icedtea would be enough? As per the link you gave me, it says some graphical components fonts are extra, none of which are used in case of web applications.
RE: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server
Sorry for top post using my phone Ice tea is Java se. Glass server uses Java EE because EE has added API and Runtime to build enterprise secure apps. sorry the link did not help. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Nilesh Govindrajanmailto:m...@nileshgr.com Sent: 2/17/2014 6:07 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgmailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server On Monday 17 February 2014 04:12 AM, Edward M wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530 Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: rvices to customers, so compatibility is definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are between Oracle JDK OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on Google are old and make sense only for Java 6. Hello, To my understanding, Oracle JDK binary is created from the source code released from the OpenJDK project with some Oracle's own propriety code. The other difference is Oracle's JDK binary is released under Oracle Technology Network Developer License Terms for JAVA EE SDK,JDK where as OpenJDK code is under GPL + linking exceptions. More info at: https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_7_questions_answers Best regards ED So it would be correct to say that for Java EE applications, icedtea would be enough? As per the link you gave me, it says some graphical components fonts are extra, none of which are used in case of web applications.
Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:57:46 -0800 Edward M. edwardm.gentoo.j...@live.com wrote: Sorry for top post using my phone Ice tea is Java se. Glass server uses Java EE because EE has added API and Runtime to build enterprise secure apps. sorry the link did not help. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Nilesh Govindrajanmailto:m...@nileshgr.com Sent: 2/17/2014 6:07 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgmailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server On Monday 17 February 2014 04:12 AM, Edward M wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530 Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: rvices to customers, so compatibility is definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are between Oracle JDK OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on Google are old and make sense only for Java 6. Hello, To my understanding, Oracle JDK binary is created from the source code released from the OpenJDK project with some Oracle's own propriety code. The other difference is Oracle's JDK binary is released under Oracle Technology Network Developer License Terms for JAVA EE SDK,JDK where as OpenJDK code is under GPL + linking exceptions. More info at: https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_7_questions_answers Best regards ED So it would be correct to say that for Java EE applications, icedtea would be enough? I was not satisfied with the reply i sent earlier. I'm not used to yet used to typing on a smartphone yet. Java EE extends Java SE platform with added API for object relational mapping, distributed and multi-tier architecture, web services,etc. Making it more useful servers. where as icedtea is basically Java SE,and would be missing the added components for Glassfish server that Java EE contains. Found Java EE documentation from Oracle: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/documentation/index.html http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/firstcup/doc/java-ee001.htm#GCRLZ As per the link you gave me, it says some graphical components fonts are extra, none of which are used in case of web applications. again sorry the link was not helpful Best regards ED -- Learing Linux with Gentoo to earn LPIC1.
Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server
On 18 Feb 2014 06:04, Edward M edwardm.gentoo.j...@live.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:57:46 -0800 Edward M. edwardm.gentoo.j...@live.com wrote: Sorry for top post using my phone Ice tea is Java se. Glass server uses Java EE because EE has added API and Runtime to build enterprise secure apps. sorry the link did not help. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Nilesh Govindrajanmailto:m...@nileshgr.com Sent: 2/17/2014 6:07 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.orgmailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server On Monday 17 February 2014 04:12 AM, Edward M wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530 Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: rvices to customers, so compatibility is definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are between Oracle JDK OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on Google are old and make sense only for Java 6. Hello, To my understanding, Oracle JDK binary is created from the source code released from the OpenJDK project with some Oracle's own propriety code. The other difference is Oracle's JDK binary is released under Oracle Technology Network Developer License Terms for JAVA EE SDK,JDK where as OpenJDK code is under GPL + linking exceptions. More info at: https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_7_questions_answers Best regards ED So it would be correct to say that for Java EE applications, icedtea would be enough? I was not satisfied with the reply i sent earlier. I'm not used to yet used to typing on a smartphone yet. Java EE extends Java SE platform with added API for object relational mapping, distributed and multi-tier architecture, web services,etc. Making it more useful servers. where as icedtea is basically Java SE,and would be missing the added components for Glassfish server that Java EE contains. Found Java EE documentation from Oracle: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javaee/documentation/index.html http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/firstcup/doc/java-ee001.htm#GCRLZ As per the link you gave me, it says some graphical components fonts are extra, none of which are used in case of web applications. again sorry the link was not helpful Best regards ED -- Learing Linux with Gentoo to earn LPIC1. No problem. Actually glassfish needs JDK7 as per their docs. So any JDK7 should work. Java EE is just a specification to be implemented by application servers.
Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:11:17 +0530 Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: No problem. Actually glassfish needs JDK7 as per their docs. So any JDK7 should work. Java EE is just a specification to be implemented by application servers. Yes Java EE extends Java SE platform with add ons, that is why i was not satisfied with the email i sent from my phone, i felt i was not being clear. I would suggest to use Oracle's JDK7 since it what glassfish calls for. that is what i'm using in Gentoo along with Netbeans,etc. Best Regards. Ed -- Learing Linux with Gentoo to earn LPIC1.
Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server
On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 18:41:18 -0800 Edward M edwardm.gentoo.j...@live.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:11:17 +0530 Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: No problem. Actually glassfish needs JDK7 as per their docs. So any JDK7 should work. Java EE is just a specification to be implemented by application servers. Yes Java EE extends Java SE platform with add ons, that is why i was not satisfied with the email i sent from my phone, i felt i was not being clear. I would suggest to use Oracle's JDK7 since it what glassfish calls for. that is what i'm using in Gentoo along with Netbeans,etc. Best Regards. Ed Nilesh, I also want to add, it has been pleasure conversing about Java with you and thank you for your patience. Best regards Ed -- Learing Linux with Gentoo to earn LPIC1.
[gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server
Hello, I'm planning to run GlassFish on my server. I'm pondering whether I should just go away with the default icedtea-bin package or use oracle-jdk-bin. I'll be renting out services to customers, so compatibility is definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are between Oracle JDK OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on Google are old and make sense only for Java 6. Java EE will work perfectly with icedtea-bin? Automatic update is also an issue. Emerge will do it for me in case of icedtea-bin but not in case of Oracle JDK .. or is there some other option? (Non-portage solution is okay, something is better than nothing.)
Re: [gentoo-user] JDK 7 on server
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 14:14:24 +0530 Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: rvices to customers, so compatibility is definitely a concern. I'm not exactly sure what the differences are between Oracle JDK OpenJDK; the differences I found so far on Google are old and make sense only for Java 6. Hello, To my understanding, Oracle JDK binary is created from the source code released from the OpenJDK project with some Oracle's own propriety code. The other difference is Oracle's JDK binary is released under Oracle Technology Network Developer License Terms for JAVA EE SDK,JDK where as OpenJDK code is under GPL + linking exceptions. More info at: https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/java_7_questions_answers Best regards ED -- Learing Linux with Gentoo to earn LPIC1.