Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer, anyone?

2013-09-19 Thread Mick
On Thursday 19 Sep 2013 21:24:15 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday 19 Sep 2013 17:32:16 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > Is it not part of the Mozilla suite anymore? Try seamonkey or
> > seamonkey-bin, which is the current incarnation of the suite.
> 
> Yes, I find that Seamonkey has a Composer component, but it seems not to
> have a CSS editor like that of the old Kompozer. That's the one thing I
> was hoping to find in it!
> 
> Now for some heavy searching for alternatives...

Bluefish and komodo-edit-bin (which is resource hungry):

  https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171944

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer, anyone?

2013-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 19 Sep 2013 17:32:16 Frank Steinmetzger wrote:

> Is it not part of the Mozilla suite anymore? Try seamonkey or
> seamonkey-bin, which is the current incarnation of the suite.

Yes, I find that Seamonkey has a Composer component, but it seems not to have a 
CSS editor like that of the old Kompozer. That's the one thing I was hoping to 
find in it!

Now for some heavy searching for alternatives...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer, anyone?

2013-09-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 03:32:22PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I used to use Kompozer (part of the Mozilla suite) but time has passed and 
> now 
> the libraries it needs are no longer in portage. That's using the binary. 
> Attempting to build it from source according to these instructions [1] fails 
> too because the script can't find some other libraries. The project seems to 
> be 
> dead, or at least moribund, and hasn't been updated since version 0.8b3 which 
> relied on gcc 4.2.
> 
> Has anyone managed to get it to compile?
> 
> Or maybe there's another WYSIWIG HTML editor?

Is it not part of the Mozilla suite anymore? Try seamonkey or
seamonkey-bin, which is the current incarnation of the suite.
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[gentoo-user] Kompozer, anyone?

2013-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hi list,

I used to use Kompozer (part of the Mozilla suite) but time has passed and now 
the libraries it needs are no longer in portage. That's using the binary. 
Attempting to build it from source according to these instructions [1] fails 
too because the script can't find some other libraries. The project seems to be 
dead, or at least moribund, and hasn't been updated since version 0.8b3 which 
relied on gcc 4.2.

Has anyone managed to get it to compile?

Or maybe there's another WYSIWIG HTML editor?

I use BlueFish most of the time, but just occasionally Kompozer has been 
useful too, and it would be a shame if it just died.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer: undefined reference to `SEC_ASN1Encode_Util'

2011-05-03 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 03 May 2011 09:12:04 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 02 May 2011 21:18:00 Mick wrote:
> > A bit O/T to the original post, but how does kompozer compares to
> > Komodo-edit?
> 
> I was too terse a moment ago. I haven't seen Komodo-edit, but from the list
> of features on Softpedia's site it seems to omit the one thing I use
> Kompozer for: WYSIWYG style editing.
> 
> It's extremely useful to be able to see the effect on a web page of a small
> change in a style definition - the instant the change goes in. No
> before-and- after comparisons, no unnoticed effects on other style
> elements.

I see.  Useful to know.  With Komodo-edit you refresh the page in Firefox 
(it's inbuilt browser).


> For content editing I prefer BlueFish, but when I approached a site
> redesign idea the other day I realised I'd be lost without Kompozer. It
> really is that good.
> 
> It does have bugs, but most of those can be evaded by following Greg
> Tutor's tutorials on the web. It also needs a lot more development effort.

I'll keep an eye on it, to see when it makes it in stable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer: undefined reference to `SEC_ASN1Encode_Util'

2011-05-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 02 May 2011 21:18:00 Mick wrote:

> A bit O/T to the original post, but how does kompozer compares to
> Komodo-edit?

I was too terse a moment ago. I haven't seen Komodo-edit, but from the list of 
features on Softpedia's site it seems to omit the one thing I use Kompozer for: 
WYSIWYG style editing.

It's extremely useful to be able to see the effect on a web page of a small 
change in a style definition - the instant the change goes in. No before-and-
after comparisons, no unnoticed effects on other style elements.

For content editing I prefer BlueFish, but when I approached a site redesign 
idea the other day I realised I'd be lost without Kompozer. It really is that 
good.

It does have bugs, but most of those can be evaded by following Greg Tutor's 
tutorials on the web. It also needs a lot more development effort.

HTH.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer: undefined reference to `SEC_ASN1Encode_Util'

2011-05-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 02 May 2011 21:18:00 Mick wrote:

> A bit O/T to the original post, but how does kompozer compares to
> Komodo-edit?

Never heard of it. I'd better investigate.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer: undefined reference to `SEC_ASN1Encode_Util'

2011-05-02 Thread Mick
On Monday 02 May 2011 20:12:11 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 02 May 2011 17:54:18 Paul Hartman wrote:
> > I bet you got it from Bugzilla, because you're CC'ed on this:
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146761
> > 
> > :)
> 
> I bow to your superior detective-work.   :-)

A bit O/T to the original post, but how does kompozer compares to Komodo-edit?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer: undefined reference to `SEC_ASN1Encode_Util'

2011-05-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 02 May 2011 17:54:18 Paul Hartman wrote:

> I bet you got it from Bugzilla, because you're CC'ed on this:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146761
> 
> :)

I bow to your superior detective-work.   :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer: undefined reference to `SEC_ASN1Encode_Util'

2011-05-02 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Peter Humphrey
 wrote:
> On Thursday 28 April 2011 20:28:14 Paul Hartman wrote:
>
>> I don't see kompozer in portage at all. Is it in an overlay?
>
> Now that you ask, I don't remember how I came by it, but I have an ebuild and 
> so
> on in /usr/local/portage. I was also astonished to find, after I wrote, that I
> also have a package of it from last time I did manage to get it emerged, last
> June. I tried emerging that and it seems to have worked - the program runs, at
> any rate.

I bet you got it from Bugzilla, because you're CC'ed on this:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146761

:)

There seems to be a lot of activity on it, maybe the attached ebuilds
are newer than the one you're trying.



Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer: undefined reference to `SEC_ASN1Encode_Util'

2011-05-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 29 April 2011 10:03:30 I wrote:

> I don't remember how I came by it, but I have an ebuild and so on in
> /usr/local/portage. I was also astonished to find, after I wrote, that I also
> have a package of it from last time I did manage to get it emerged, last June.
> I tried emerging that and it seems to have worked - the program runs, at any
> rate.

Ah, but there's a sting in the tail - as soon as I close the program it 
disappears. KDE can't find it, and "which kompozer" yields nothing either. 
Clearly it's a bit of a rogue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer: undefined reference to `SEC_ASN1Encode_Util'

2011-04-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 April 2011 20:28:14 Paul Hartman wrote:

> I don't see kompozer in portage at all. Is it in an overlay?

Now that you ask, I don't remember how I came by it, but I have an ebuild and 
so 
on in /usr/local/portage. I was also astonished to find, after I wrote, that I 
also have a package of it from last time I did manage to get it emerged, last 
June. I tried emerging that and it seems to have worked - the program runs, at 
any rate.

> I think the function in the subject is from libnss, so I wonder if
> trying a different version of libnss might produce different results.
> Kompozer is probably closely related to some version of Firefox or
> Seamonkey. If you know which version it is similar to, you might be
> able to look at the dependencies for that and compare them.

Good idea. I'll look into it (after the business of the day is concluded!).

> I also wonder if you might need to remove -Wl,--as-needed from your
> LDFLAGS.

Perhaps...

Thanks for the suggestions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer: undefined reference to `SEC_ASN1Encode_Util'

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Peter Humphrey
 wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I've been trying to install kompozer (very useful for developing web style
> sheets), but it fails with a whole lot of errors such as the one in the 
> subject.
>
> Googling only shows a conversation from two-and-a-half years ago, with no real
> solution after much discussion of nss and nspr, both of which I've remerged
> (nspr has the utils USE flag set).
>
> Does anyone here know how to evade this problem? Alternatively, is there 
> another
> visual web-page development tool?

Hi,

I don't see kompozer in portage at all. Is it in an overlay?

I think the function in the subject is from libnss, so I wonder if
trying a different version of libnss might produce different results.
Kompozer is probably closely related to some version of Firefox or
Seamonkey. If you know which version it is similar to, you might be
able to look at the dependencies for that and compare them.

I also wonder if you might need to remove -Wl,--as-needed from your LDFLAGS.



Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-13 Thread Neil Walker
On 13/03/10 11:40, Peter Humphrey wrote

> Ah. So now it builds ok (18 min here) but when I call "kompozer" from a 
> command line I get:
>
> /usr/lib/kompozer/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 13315 Segmentation fault  
> "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
>   

All I know is that it worked here from when I installed it in October
until I removed it a couple of weeks ago.

I tried re-emerging it and got the same result you did. There is an updated
ebuild on bugzilla (#146761
) but it doesn't change
anything in this respect.
Maybe you would like to add your comments to that bug and see what
happens.

Be lucky,

Neil
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 13 March 2010 08:27:08 Neil Walker wrote:

> http://www.neiljw.net/mozconfig-0.8_beta1
> 
> Put that file in the files subdirectory of wherever you have the
> ebuild then remake the manifest. The emerge starts with a warning
> about mozconfig.eclass but you can just ignore that. Then go read
> "War and Peace" or something because it takes a while even on four
> cores. ;)

Ah. So now it builds ok (18 min here) but when I call "kompozer" from a 
command line I get:

/usr/lib/kompozer/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 13315 Segmentation fault  
"$prog" ${1+"$@"}

This is odd, as that line is just the opening curly brace of the 
moz_run_program() function.

I notice, though, at the head of the run-mozilla.sh script, this 
assignment: MOZ_PROGRAM="". I tried setting this instead to: 
MOZ_PROGRAM="./kompozer-bin" but I got the same seg fault (except that 
the 13315 had changed to 30525).

I'm near my debugging limit here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-13 Thread Neil Walker
To those people still trying to download the files, please

note there is NO full stop (period) at the end of the ebuild

filename. The two files you need are:

http://www.neiljw.net/kompozer-0.8_beta1.ebuild

and

http://www.neiljw.net/mozconfig-0.8_beta1

;)

Be lucky,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-13 Thread Neil Walker
On 12/03/10 23:21, Peter Humphrey wrote:

>> I got an ebuild somewhere, probably bugzilla. If you want a copy,
>> I've put it on http://www.neiljw.net/kompozer-0.8_beta1.ebuild.
>> 
> I tried this just now. I saved your ebuild as /usr/local/portage/app-
> editors/kompozer/kompozer-0.8_beta1.ebuild, then ran ebuild [...] 
> manifest on it, then tried to emerge it. I got this configuration error:
>
>   configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required
>
> which I've seen before when trying to compile this program. I didn't 
> manage to solve it then, and i haven't this time either.
>
> Any clues? Thanks for the help so far.
>   

Sorry about that. It's been a few weeks since I did this and had forgotten
that another file is needed:

http://www.neiljw.net/mozconfig-0.8_beta1

Put that file in the files subdirectory of wherever you have the ebuild then
remake the manifest. The emerge starts with a warning about mozconfig.eclass
but you can just ignore that. Then go read "War and Peace" or something
because it takes a while even on four cores. ;)

Be lucky,

Neil
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 20:56:04 Neil Walker wrote:
> On 09/03/10 15:41, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >> I have kompozer-0.8_beta1 running on this box which is amd64 but
> >> quite a long list in /etc/portage/package.keywords.
> > 
> > Well, as this box is ~amd64 I shouldn't need any of those. But
> > kompozer isn't in portage as far as I can see, so how did you get
> > it installed?
> 
> I got an ebuild somewhere, probably bugzilla. If you want a copy,
> I've put it on http://www.neiljw.net/kompozer-0.8_beta1.ebuild.

I tried this just now. I saved your ebuild as /usr/local/portage/app-
editors/kompozer/kompozer-0.8_beta1.ebuild, then ran ebuild [...] 
manifest on it, then tried to emerge it. I got this configuration error:

configure: error: --enable-application=APP is required

which I've seen before when trying to compile this program. I didn't 
manage to solve it then, and i haven't this time either.

Any clues? Thanks for the help so far.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 20:56:04 Neil Walker wrote:

> I got an ebuild somewhere, probably bugzilla. If you want a copy,
> I've put it on http://www.neiljw.net/kompozer-0.8_beta1.ebuild.

Thanks Neil. I'll have a look at it in the morning. Or maybe the 
afternoon, remembering some unfortunate incidents recently when I hadn't 
woken up properly (Hello Neil B.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-09 Thread Neil Walker
On 09/03/10 20:56, Neil Walker wrote:
> If you want a copy, I've put it on 
> http://www.neiljw.net/kompozer-0.8_beta1.ebuild
>   

Hehe. It seems a few people wanted that but I did see a couple of
http 404s in the logs. That's because you included the full stop.


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Neil
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-09 Thread Neil Walker
On 09/03/10 15:41, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> I have kompozer-0.8_beta1 running on this box which is amd64 but
>> quite a long list in /etc/portage/package.keywords.
>> 
> Well, as this box is ~amd64 I shouldn't need any of those. But kompozer 
> isn't in portage as far as I can see, so how did you get it installed?
>   

I got an ebuild somewhere, probably bugzilla. If you want a copy, I've
put it on http://www.neiljw.net/kompozer-0.8_beta1.ebuild.


Be lucky,

Neil
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 09 March 2010 14:05:03 Neil Walker wrote:

> I have kompozer-0.8_beta1 running on this box which is amd64 but
> quite a long list in /etc/portage/package.keywords.

Well, as this box is ~amd64 I shouldn't need any of those. But kompozer 
isn't in portage as far as I can see, so how did you get it installed?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-09 Thread Neil Walker
On 09/03/10 12:14, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Has anyone here got kompozer to build on a Gentoo ~amd64 box?

I have kompozer-0.8_beta1 running on this box which is amd64 but
quite a long list in /etc/portage/package.keywords.


Be lucky,

Neil
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[gentoo-user] Kompozer

2010-03-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list,

Has anyone here got kompozer to build on a Gentoo ~amd64 box? I did have 
a version running some months ago and I've tried to upgrade it but 
failed. The compiled versions require old libs that aren't installed 
here and the source needs some incantation I haven't found yet.

I use Bluefish for HTML maintenance, but kompozer is useful for 
developing CSS.

Thanks for any tips.

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Re: [gentoo-user] kompozer and arphicfonts

2008-01-27 Thread Zhang Weiwu
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:30:23 +0100
Zhang Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Zhang Weiwu wrote:
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> | Now I just switch back to Gentoo and discovered, well, I am not sure
> | but looks a bit lag behind on updating portage. I only noticed two
> | examples:
> | 2. The other package arphicfonts are not developed for years
> |neither, a continue effort is the CJK Unifont project. In
> |Gentoo still there are only old packages. The new project
> |produce Chinese font that is used as default Chinese font in 
> |Ubuntu.
> 
> Actually more people are using Simsun or Yahei from Windoze for
> pragmatic reasons. Also you can try wqy-bitmapfont.

Yes I knew Simsun, Yahei. My suggestion is if there is an opensource 
Chinese font with reasonably wide coverage, it should be there for those 
who want to have it.

ghostscript-gpl when added "cjk" USE flag, would depend on the years-old 
arpphic fonts, the best behavior is either tell users to use 
Yahei/Simsun or use the latest CJK Unifont, not providing the latest 
enhanced opensource font is pratcially encouraging users to copy 
propiertry fonts. I think CJK Unifont project has done a lot of hinting 
work to make it look nice on screen and now it's much more usable on 
desktop then old arpphic font, it's making sense to avoid user install 
an old font and say "oh, opensource fonts looks bad" and then go copy 
the Windows fonts, when they actually got the outdated fonts.

wqy-bitmap is in an other category. It's usable on the screen but not on 
word processing. I am using it right now as my default screen font:) 
Thanks for having it in portage.
 
> | By the way I can compile these packages myself and I can contribute
> | ebuilds when I got some free time (e.g. in the coming holiday). I am
> | just a bit curious on how everything is generally going on in
> | Portage.
> 
> AFAIK, Gentoo CJK team is short-staffed.
> It's better if you can join gentoo and become a developer, ;)
> 
> If you want to know how everything is going on in portage, you can
> check either: http://packages.gentoo.org
> or:
> http://cia.vc/stats/project/gentoo
> 
> Ad time, ;)
> If you have some Chinese related questions, you can easily get an
> answer here: http://groups.google.com/group/gentoo-china/
> http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/forum59.html
> Also #gentoo-cn on freenode

Thanks for the information. I'll see what I can do in the coming spring 
festival and see if I can help.

Best regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] kompozer and arphicfonts

2008-01-26 Thread Zhang Le

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Zhang Weiwu wrote:
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| Now I just switch back to Gentoo and discovered, well, I am not sure
| but looks a bit lag behind on updating portage. I only noticed two
| examples:
|   2. The other package arphicfonts are not developed for years
|  neither, a continue effort is the CJK Unifont project. In
|  Gentoo still there are only old packages. The new project
|  produce Chinese font that is used as default Chinese font in
|  Ubuntu.

Actually more people are using Simsun or Yahei from Windoze for pragmatic 
reasons.
Also you can try wqy-bitmapfont.

| By the way I can compile these packages myself and I can contribut
| ebuilds when I got some free time (e.g. in the coming holiday). I am
| just a bit curious on how everything is generally going on in Portage.

AFAIK, Gentoo CJK team is short-staffed.
It's better if you can join gentoo and become a developer, ;)

If you want to know how everything is going on in portage, you can check either:
http://packages.gentoo.org
or:
http://cia.vc/stats/project/gentoo

Ad time, ;)
If you have some Chinese related questions, you can easily get an answer here:
http://groups.google.com/group/gentoo-china/
http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/forum59.html
Also #gentoo-cn on freenode

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[gentoo-user] kompozer and arphicfonts

2008-01-26 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Hello.

I was a Gentoo user some 2.5 years ago and was very fond of it because 
it updates frequently and includes newer versions of applications into 
portage faster than other distributions. Later I switched away to
Ubuntu for working environment reasons (colleagues are using Ubuntu and
I got support / communication easier).

Now I just switch back to Gentoo and discovered, well, I am not sure
but looks a bit lag behind on updating portage. I only noticed two
examples:

1. Development for NVU wysiwyg editor has stalled for some 
   years, the other project continued its development called 
   "kompozer". Ubuntu has it there but I cannot find it in 
   Gentoo.
2. The other package arphicfonts are not developed for years 
   neither, a continue effort is the CJK Unifont project. In 
   Gentoo still there are only old packages. The new project 
   produce Chinese font that is used as default Chinese font in 
   Ubuntu.

Both new projects started after I switched away from Gentoo some 
2 years ago, so it seems Gentoo didn't catch up. Maybe I am completely 
wrong: I am sensative to these packages just because I am a Chinese
user and these two packages happen to improved for Chinese users a lot; 
meanwhile there might be a lot other packages newly included in Gentoo 
but overlooked by other distributions. But just how do you feel 
generally?  Is the portage keeping following up slower then before?

By the way I can compile these packages myself and I can contribut 
ebuilds when I got some free time (e.g. in the coming holiday). I am 
just a bit curious on how everything is generally going on in Portage.

Zhang Weiwu

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