Re: [gentoo-user] My only input on the subject of circular dependencies

2007-05-17 Thread Dan Farrell
On Fri, 18 May 2007 00:15:44 +0900
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:52 PM
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] My only input on the subject of 
> > circular dependencies
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 17 May 2007 09:18:40 +0900
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > My only input at this time (since I am a total newb when it
> > > comes to Gentoo), is this.
> > ...
> > > ---
> > > Ken
> > I think that's excellent advice Ken.  I would add somewhere 
> > between USEing sparingly and reading errors (windows people 
> > in particular never seem to do this) that emerging -av is a 
> > great idea, since it lists the use flags you're likely to 
> > want to look over before going.  Many a gray hair can be 
> > avoided by a little extra work before sending the emerge through.  
> > 
> > Don't give up newbies!  It comes eventually, I swear.  
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> Would -p work well with the -av (-avp) ? I have not looked over the -a
> and -v just yet, but I know that -p will make sure it doesn't actually
> change anything on the first attempt. :)
> 
-a is just like -p except it gives you the option to start the merge
right away.  I recommend it as a replacement to -p because it saves the
time of recalculating the dependancies if the USE flags are as you want
them.  They are mutually exclusive:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ emerge -p -a -v xorg-x11
| >>> --pretend disables --ask... removing --ask from options.
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RE: [gentoo-user] My only input on the subject of circular dependencies

2007-05-17 Thread burlingk


> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:52 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] My only input on the subject of 
> circular dependencies
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> 
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 09:18:40 +0900
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > My only input at this time (since I am a total newb when it
> > comes to Gentoo), is this.
> ...
> > ---
> > Ken
> I think that's excellent advice Ken.  I would add somewhere 
> between USEing sparingly and reading errors (windows people 
> in particular never seem to do this) that emerging -av is a 
> great idea, since it lists the use flags you're likely to 
> want to look over before going.  Many a gray hair can be 
> avoided by a little extra work before sending the emerge through.  
> 
> Don't give up newbies!  It comes eventually, I swear.  
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Would -p work well with the -av (-avp) ? I have not looked over the -a
and -v just yet, but I know that -p will make sure it doesn't actually
change anything on the first attempt. :)

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[gentoo-user] My only input on the subject of circular dependencies

2007-05-16 Thread burlingk
My only input at this time (since I am a total newb when it 
comes to Gentoo), is this.

I had an issue with circular dependencies, but it was because
I did not understand the intricacies of use flags at the time. 
Now that I understand better, the only problem I seem to run 
into is trying to get my video drivers to work. However, at
the moment, I am not in a high bandwidth location, so I must 
settle for using the generic "networkless install" until I get 
back to my landline. :P

Just remember, use USE sparingly.  Compile what you need, not 
everything under the sun. Don't insist on trying to get alsa and
OSS to work side by side (Alsa has OSS emulation installed so 
you don't have too), and if you want to use Gnome and KDE on the 
same system, just plan out your install so that you set the right
flags for the right packages.

Often times the error when it fails to build, will tell you what 
to fix.  You just have to get used to reading the messages. :)

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Ken
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