[gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?

2005-12-19 Thread Michael Sullivan
I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that
computers outside my network can't see it.  I've opened up port 53 on my
router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't.
I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know.  How can I
find what's causing this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?

2005-12-19 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/19/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that
 computers outside my network can't see it.  I've opened up port 53 on my
 router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't.
 I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know.  How can I
 find what's causing this?

Is it possible that your ISP is blocking it?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?

2005-12-19 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 14:53 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 12/19/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that
  computers outside my network can't see it.  I've opened up port 53 on my
  router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't.
  I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know.  How can I
  find what's causing this?
 
 Is it possible that your ISP is blocking it?
 
 -Richard
 

When I signed up for this internet service they PROMISED me that the
only ports they block are three ports (I don't remember the exact ports,
but they were between 100 and 150) that were only used by Microsoft
servers.  I would call them and ask them about it, but I've had about
all the BS I can stand for today..

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?

2005-12-19 Thread kashani

Michael Sullivan wrote:

I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that
computers outside my network can't see it.  I've opened up port 53 on my
router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't.
I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know.  How can I
find what's causing this?



What ever you did in the last 5 minutes seems to have fixed it as an 
nmap against your box showed no DNS ports open originally and now it does.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dig @espersunited.com www.espersunited.com

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.espersunited.com.  IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.espersunited.com.   10800   IN  CNAME   bullet.espersunited.com.
bullet.espersunited.com. 10800  IN  A   192.168.1.2

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?

2005-12-19 Thread John Jolet


On Dec 19, 2005, at 4:31 PM, kashani wrote:


Michael Sullivan wrote:

I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that
computers outside my network can't see it.  I've opened up port 53  
on my
router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still  
can't.
I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know.  How  
can I

find what's causing this?


if you are going to open up ports on your router, I would STRONGLY  
suggest you go ahead and set up some iptables rules on your server.   
Just 16+ years of sysadmin paranoia talking


What ever you did in the last 5 minutes seems to have fixed it as  
an nmap against your box showed no DNS ports open originally and  
now it does.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dig @espersunited.com www.espersunited.com

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.espersunited.com.  IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.espersunited.com.   10800   IN  CNAME
bullet.espersunited.com.

bullet.espersunited.com. 10800  IN  A   192.168.1.2

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?

2005-12-19 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 14:31 -0800, kashani wrote:
 Michael Sullivan wrote:
  I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that
  computers outside my network can't see it.  I've opened up port 53 on my
  router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still can't.
  I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know.  How can I
  find what's causing this?
  
 
 What ever you did in the last 5 minutes seems to have fixed it as an 
 nmap against your box showed no DNS ports open originally and now it does.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dig @espersunited.com www.espersunited.com
 
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;www.espersunited.com.  IN  A
 
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 www.espersunited.com.   10800   IN  CNAME   bullet.espersunited.com.
 bullet.espersunited.com. 10800  IN  A   192.168.1.2
 
 kashani

The address of espersunited.com should have been 24.117.226.93.  The
address of 192.168.1.2 for bullet.espersunited.com the internal address
of bullet.  The external address should have been 24.117.226.93, and I
still can't telnet 24.117.226.93 port 53

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?

2005-12-19 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 17:23 -0600, John Jolet wrote:
 On Dec 19, 2005, at 4:31 PM, kashani wrote:
 
  Michael Sullivan wrote:
  I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that
  computers outside my network can't see it.  I've opened up port 53  
  on my
  router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still  
  can't.
  I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know.  How  
  can I
  find what's causing this?
 
 if you are going to open up ports on your router, I would STRONGLY  
 suggest you go ahead and set up some iptables rules on your server.   
 Just 16+ years of sysadmin paranoia talking
 
  What ever you did in the last 5 minutes seems to have fixed it as  
  an nmap against your box showed no DNS ports open originally and  
  now it does.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dig @espersunited.com www.espersunited.com
 
  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
  ;www.espersunited.com.  IN  A
 
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  www.espersunited.com.   10800   IN  CNAME
  bullet.espersunited.com.
  bullet.espersunited.com. 10800  IN  A   192.168.1.2
 
  kashani
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The router provides my firewall.  I already have ports open for sshd,
www, smtp, ftp, pop3, and imap.  Why would I need another firewall on
the PC itself?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT -More DNS problems - firewall?

2005-12-19 Thread John Jolet


On Dec 19, 2005, at 5:46 PM, Michael Sullivan wrote:


On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 17:23 -0600, John Jolet wrote:

On Dec 19, 2005, at 4:31 PM, kashani wrote:


Michael Sullivan wrote:

I've gotten my named server working like I want it to, except that
computers outside my network can't see it.  I've opened up port 53
on my
router so that extra-network hosts could use it, but they still
can't.
I'm not running a firewall on my server box as far as I know.  How
can I
find what's causing this?



if you are going to open up ports on your router, I would STRONGLY
suggest you go ahead and set up some iptables rules on your server.
Just 16+ years of sysadmin paranoia talking


What ever you did in the last 5 minutes seems to have fixed it as
an nmap against your box showed no DNS ports open originally and
now it does.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ dig @espersunited.com www.espersunited.com

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.espersunited.com.  IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.espersunited.com.   10800   IN  CNAME
bullet.espersunited.com.
bullet.espersunited.com. 10800  IN  A   192.168.1.2

kashani
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The router provides my firewall.  I already have ports open for sshd,
www, smtp, ftp, pop3, and imap.  Why would I need another firewall on
the PC itself?



a little thing we like to call defense in depth.  you firewall at the  
perimeter, and you firewall at the hosts, or between the layers.   
this prevents a compromise of an internal host from cascading.



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