Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-03-21 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 03:11:25 +0100
eroen er...@falcon.eroen.eu wrote:

 One would hope (mostly for their image's sake) the gnome team does
 not remove gnome-settings-daemon-2 until at least one of
 cinnamon-settings-daemon and mate-settings-daemon are included in
 gentoo proper.

+  05 Mar 2014; Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org
+  +files/mate-settings-daemon-1.2.0-syndaemon-mode.patch,
+  +files/mate-settings-daemon-1.4.0-netfs-monitor.patch,
+  +mate-settings-daemon-1.6.2.ebuild, +metadata.xml:
+  New ebuild for mate-base/mate-settings-daemon, MATE Settings Daemon;
+  imported from the mate-overlay, reviewed and adjusted.

Hoping to see it unmasked in the next week, just a few more to add...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-24 Thread William Kenworthy
On 24/02/14 09:31, eroen wrote:
 On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:02:01 +0100, Fox halfsocial...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned
 sys-fs/eudev. I decided used because I had systemd only to used udev
 and unmerge systemd.

 Now I can't use Banshee which I use as my music player because of the 
 next dependency tree:

 banshee
  - gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon
  - sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
  - sys-apps/systemd

 and systemd can't be used because it conflicts with eudev.

 Is there anyway to avoid emerge systemd in this case?

 Thank you,
 Quim


 
 On a system running ~amd64 with eudev/openrc:
 

moriah ~ # emerge gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon -vp

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-3.8.4:3/7  USE=introspection
-debug 1,019 kB
[ebuild  N ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-standard-3.8.4  USE=gtk 3,765 kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-apps/systemd-208-r2:0/1  USE=filecaps
firmware-loader gcrypt kmod lzma pam policykit python tcpd xattr -acl
-audit -cryptsetup -doc -gudev -http -introspection -qrcode (-selinux)
{-test} -vanilla PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 2,335 kB
[ebuild  N ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2  0 kB
[ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1  USE=colord
cups i18n policykit short-touchpad-timeout udev -debug (-openrc-force)
(-packagekit) {-test} INPUT_DEVICES=-wacom 1,543 kB
[blocks B  ] sys-apps/systemd (sys-apps/systemd is blocking
sys-fs/eudev-1.4-r1)


I have a system like the above ... eudev/openrc with openrc-force in the
USE flags and the 13.0 profile (not desktop/gnome etc)

As you can see above, something is forcing (-openrc-force) - any ideas
on how to get it to honour the openrc-force flag or find out what is
causing the problem?

BillK






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:52:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:

 As you can see above, something is forcing (-openrc-force) - any ideas
 on how to get it to honour the openrc-force flag or find out what is
 causing the problem?

The flag is masked because it is an unsupported option. Unmask it by
adding this to /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask

gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon -openrc-force


-- 
Neil Bothwick

MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten years
of careful development.


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[gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-24 Thread eroen
On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:52:13 +0800, William Kenworthy
bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 moriah ~ # emerge gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon -vp
 
 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gnome-desktop-3.8.4:3/7
 USE=introspection -debug 1,019 kB
 [ebuild  N ] x11-themes/gnome-themes-standard-3.8.4  USE=gtk
 3,765 kB [ebuild  N ] sys-apps/systemd-208-r2:0/1  USE=filecaps
 firmware-loader gcrypt kmod lzma pam policykit python tcpd xattr -acl
 -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gudev -http -introspection -qrcode (-selinux)
 {-test} -vanilla PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7
 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 2,335 kB
 [ebuild  N ] sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-2  0 kB
 [ebuild  N ] gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.8.6.1  USE=colord
 cups i18n policykit short-touchpad-timeout udev -debug (-openrc-force)
 (-packagekit) {-test} INPUT_DEVICES=-wacom 1,543 kB
 [blocks B  ] sys-apps/systemd (sys-apps/systemd is blocking
 sys-fs/eudev-1.4-r1)
 
 
 I have a system like the above ... eudev/openrc with openrc-force in
 the USE flags and the 13.0 profile (not desktop/gnome etc)
 
 As you can see above, something is forcing (-openrc-force) - any ideas
 on how to get it to honour the openrc-force flag or find out what is
 causing the problem?
 
 BillK
 

openrc-force is masked in /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.mask:

# Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org (28 Sep 2013)
# This USE flag is available after long dicussion in
# http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/276077
# to let some prople not able to run systemd to skip the dep (#480336).
# Enabling this you will get a fully unsupported Gnome setup that
# could suffer unexpected problem, don't expect support for it then.
openrc-force

If you are unfamiliar with gentoo's profiles, most (all the
handbook-documented) profiles inherit the base profile which
contains this file, which means this mask is in effect on most systems.
None of the other profiles currently disable this use-mask. emerge's
output indicates to you that this use flag is masked by enclosing it in
parenthesis, check the documentation for the --verbose switch in
emerge(1)[1].

Use-flag masks from the selected profile (and the opposite, force)
override the use-flag settings normally made by users in make.conf and
package.use. User modifications to the profile should be made
in /etc/portage/profile/, see portage(5)[2].

To un-mask the openrc use flag, you can create the
file /etc/portage/profile/use.mask with this line:

-openrc-force

1: https://dev.gentoo.org/~zmedico/portage/doc/man/emerge.1.html
2: https://dev.gentoo.org/~zmedico/portage/doc/man/portage.5.html

-- 
eroen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-24 Thread William Kenworthy
On 24/02/14 18:39, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:52:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
 
 As you can see above, something is forcing (-openrc-force) - any ideas
 on how to get it to honour the openrc-force flag or find out what is
 causing the problem?
 
 The flag is masked because it is an unsupported option. Unmask it by
 adding this to /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask
 
 gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon -openrc-force
 
 

Ta, thats the hint I needed.

Thanks,
BillK





[gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-23 Thread eroen
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:02:01 +0100, Fox halfsocial...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned
 sys-fs/eudev. I decided used because I had systemd only to used udev
 and unmerge systemd.
 
 Now I can't use Banshee which I use as my music player because of the 
 next dependency tree:
 
 banshee
  - gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon
  - sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
  - sys-apps/systemd
 
 and systemd can't be used because it conflicts with eudev.
 
 Is there anyway to avoid emerge systemd in this case?
 
 Thank you,
 Quim
 
 

On a system running ~amd64 with eudev/openrc:

eroen@falcon ~ $ emerge -pv media-sound/banshee 
=gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-2.32.1-r2

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies   . . ... done!
[ebuild  N ] media-sound/banshee-2.6.1  USE=aac bpm cdda encode mtp {test} 
udev web -daap -doc -ipod -karma -youtube 3,246 kB
[ebuild  N ]  dev-dotnet/gtk-sharp-beans-2.14.0  21 kB
[ebuild  N ]   dev-dotnet/gtk-sharp-gapi-2.12.10:2  USE=-debug 1,601 kB
[ebuild  NS]sys-devel/automake-1.10.3:1.10 [1.9.6-r3:1.9, 1.11.6:1.11, 
1.12.6:1.12, 1.13.4:1.13, 1.14.1:1.14] 936 kB
[ebuild  N ]dev-lang/mono-3.2.3  USE=nls -debug -doc -minimal 
-pax_kernel -xen 0 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-dotnet/libgdiplus-2.10.9-r1  USE=cairo 0 kB
[ebuild  N ]   dev-dotnet/glib-sharp-2.12.10:2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N ]   dev-dotnet/gtk-sharp-2.12.10:2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N ]dev-dotnet/atk-sharp-2.12.10:2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N ]dev-dotnet/gdk-sharp-2.12.10:2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N ] dev-dotnet/pango-sharp-2.12.10:2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N ]   dev-dotnet/gio-sharp-0.3  88 kB
[ebuild  N ]  dev-dotnet/gkeyfile-sharp-0.1  20 kB
[ebuild  N ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-taglib-0.10.31:0.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N ]  dev-dotnet/dbus-sharp-0.7.0-r1  125 kB
[ebuild  N ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-soundtouch-0.10.23:0.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N ]   media-libs/libsoundtouch-1.8.0  USE=sse2 -static-libs 104 
kB
[ebuild  N ]  dev-dotnet/gconf-sharp-2.24.2:2  USE=-debug 412 kB
[ebuild  N ]   dev-dotnet/gnome-sharp-2.24.2:2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N ]dev-dotnet/art-sharp-2.24.2:2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N ]dev-dotnet/gnomevfs-sharp-2.24.2:2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N ]   dev-dotnet/glade-sharp-2.12.10:2  USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild  N ]  net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.2.5-r200:2  USE=egl gstreamer jit 
opengl {test} webgl (-aqua) -coverage -debug -geoloc -gles2 -introspection 
-libsecret -spell 9,181 kB
[ebuild  N ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-lame-0.10.19:0.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N ]  dev-dotnet/dbus-sharp-glib-0.5.0  94 kB
[ebuild  N ]  gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-2.32.1-r2  USE=libnotify 
-debug -policykit -pulseaudio -smartcard 1,327 kB
[ebuild  N ]   gnome-base/libgnomekbd-2.32.0-r1  USE={test} 402 kB
[ebuild  N ]   gnome-base/gnome-desktop-2.32.1-r2:2  USE=-debug 
-license-docs PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 -python2_6 1,596 kB
[ebuild  N ]  dev-dotnet/notify-sharp-0.4.0_pre20090305  USE=-doc 78 kB
[ebuild  N ]  dev-dotnet/taglib-sharp-2.1.0.0  503 kB
[ebuild  N ]  media-plugins/gst-plugins-gio-0.10.36:0.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N ]  dev-dotnet/mono-addins-0.6.2  USE=gtk 330 kB
[ebuild  N ]  dev-dotnet/gudev-sharp-0.1  101 kB

Total: 33 packages (32 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 20,155 kB

For ease of upgrades, you might want to add
=gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3
in /etc/portage/package.mask rather than specifying it with a specific
version on the command line.

-- 
eroen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:31 PM, eroen er...@falcon.eroen.eu wrote:
 On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:02:01 +0100, Fox halfsocial...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned
 sys-fs/eudev. I decided used because I had systemd only to used udev
 and unmerge systemd.

 Now I can't use Banshee which I use as my music player because of the
 next dependency tree:

 banshee
  - gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon
  - sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
  - sys-apps/systemd

 and systemd can't be used because it conflicts with eudev.

 Is there anyway to avoid emerge systemd in this case?

 Thank you,
 Quim


 On a system running ~amd64 with eudev/openrc:

 eroen@falcon ~ $ emerge -pv media-sound/banshee 
 =gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-2.32.1-r2

[ snip emerge output ]

 For ease of upgrades, you might want to add
 =gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3
 in /etc/portage/package.mask rather than specifying it with a specific
 version on the command line.

That solution is a dead end. GNOME 2 is being removed from the tree[1].

Regards.

[1] http://blogs.gentoo.org/eva/2014/02/16/the-future-of-gnome-2/
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



[gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-23 Thread eroen
On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:47:55 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés
can...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:31 PM, eroen er...@falcon.eroen.eu wrote:
  On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:02:01 +0100, Fox halfsocial...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Hello,
  after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned
  sys-fs/eudev. I decided used because I had systemd only to used
  udev and unmerge systemd.
 
  Now I can't use Banshee which I use as my music player because of
  the next dependency tree:
 
  banshee
   - gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon
   - sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
   - sys-apps/systemd
 
  and systemd can't be used because it conflicts with eudev.
 
  Is there anyway to avoid emerge systemd in this case?
 
  Thank you,
  Quim
 
 
  On a system running ~amd64 with eudev/openrc:
 
  eroen@falcon ~ $ emerge -pv media-sound/banshee
  =gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-2.32.1-r2
 
 [ snip emerge output ]
 
  For ease of upgrades, you might want to add
  =gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3
  in /etc/portage/package.mask rather than specifying it with a
  specific version on the command line.
 
 That solution is a dead end. GNOME 2 is being removed from the
 tree[1].
 
 Regards.
 
 [1] http://blogs.gentoo.org/eva/2014/02/16/the-future-of-gnome-2/

You probably mean temporary. The expression dead end would imply it
makes future migration more difficult in some way.

One would hope (mostly for their image's sake) the gnome team does
not remove gnome-settings-daemon-2 until at least one of
cinnamon-settings-daemon and mate-settings-daemon are included in
gentoo proper.

-- 
eroen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: banshee installation without systemd

2014-02-23 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 8:11 PM, eroen er...@falcon.eroen.eu wrote:
 On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 19:47:55 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés
 can...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:31 PM, eroen er...@falcon.eroen.eu wrote:
  On Sun, 23 Feb 2014 18:02:01 +0100, Fox halfsocial...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Hello,
  after reading the thread about systemd somebody mentioned
  sys-fs/eudev. I decided used because I had systemd only to used
  udev and unmerge systemd.
 
  Now I can't use Banshee which I use as my music player because of
  the next dependency tree:
 
  banshee
   - gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon
   - sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration
   - sys-apps/systemd
 
  and systemd can't be used because it conflicts with eudev.
 
  Is there anyway to avoid emerge systemd in this case?
 
  Thank you,
  Quim
 
 
  On a system running ~amd64 with eudev/openrc:
 
  eroen@falcon ~ $ emerge -pv media-sound/banshee
  =gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-2.32.1-r2
 
 [ snip emerge output ]
 
  For ease of upgrades, you might want to add
  =gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3
  in /etc/portage/package.mask rather than specifying it with a
  specific version on the command line.

 That solution is a dead end. GNOME 2 is being removed from the
 tree[1].

 Regards.

 [1] http://blogs.gentoo.org/eva/2014/02/16/the-future-of-gnome-2/

 You probably mean temporary. The expression dead end would imply it
 makes future migration more difficult in some way.

Call it temporary if you want to. The point is that
gnome-settings-daemon 2.x has been unmaintained for years now.

 One would hope (mostly for their image's sake) the gnome team does
 not remove gnome-settings-daemon-2 until at least one of
 cinnamon-settings-daemon and mate-settings-daemon are included in
 gentoo proper.

Nobody cares about any team image, I suppose. They are all
volunteers. If you want cinnamon-sd or mate-sd to get into the tree,
help out. Don't assume someone is going to do it for you.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México