[gentoo-user] X freezes locks up, constantly

2005-11-08 Thread Phill MV
Every now and then, usually while doing something related to firefox
(mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r2) but it's also happened when someone sent me
a file over MSN in gaim (gaim-1.5.0), my copy of xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4 will
lock up and refuse all interaction.

All windows stop responding; xmms keeps playing; keyboard locks up and
the mouse, although free to wiggle around won't cross from one screen
to another. Logging in from another machine over SSH, top reveals that
X is occupying 90-something% of the CPU; killing individual
applications like firefox or xmms doesn't do anything but killing X
gives me back a working, functional login screen.

This is, as you might imagine, amazingly annoying. For whatever reason,
it'll happen when I click specific links in Firefox (i.e. my
professor's labs  assignments link) or alt tab away or back into
Firefox. I haven't lost much work yet, thanks to my habit of using vim
in screen but otherwise it's frustrating to either boot up a 2nd (non
linux) comp or hitting the restart button.

It started when I accidentally updated a bunch of packages using ~x86
keywords but I've recompiled xorg and firefox back to their 'stable'
versions; sooner or later I'm going to try to recompile everything down
to their stable versions but in the meanwhile, any suggestions?


[gentoo-user] X freezes locks up, constantly

2005-11-08 Thread Phill MV
Every now and then, usually while doing something related to firefox
(mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r2) but it's also happened when someone sent me
a file over MSN in gaim (gaim-1.5.0), my copy of xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4 will
lock up and refuse all interaction.

All windows stop responding; xmms keeps playing; keyboard locks up and
the mouse, although free to wiggle around won't cross from one screen
to another. Logging in from another machine over SSH, top reveals that
X is occupying 90-something% of the CPU; killing individual
applications like firefox or xmms doesn't do anything but killing X
gives me back a working, functional login screen.

This is, as you might imagine, amazingly annoying. For whatever reason,
it'll happen when I click specific links in Firefox (i.e. my
professor's labs  assignments link) or alt tab away or back into
Firefox. I haven't lost much work yet, thanks to my habit of using vim
in screen but otherwise it's frustrating to either boot up a 2nd (non
linux) comp or hitting the restart button.

It started when I accidentally updated a bunch of packages using ~x86
keywords but I've recompiled xorg and firefox back to their 'stable'
versions; sooner or later I'm going to try to recompile everything down
to their stable versions but in the meanwhile, any suggestions?


Re: [gentoo-user] X freezes locks up, constantly

2005-11-08 Thread Holly Bostick
Phill MV schreef:
 Every now and then, usually while doing something related to firefox
 ( mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r2) but it's also happened when someone sent
 me a file over MSN in gaim (gaim-1.5.0), my copy of xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4
 will lock up and refuse all interaction.
 
 All windows stop responding; xmms keeps playing; keyboard locks up
 and the mouse, although free to wiggle around won't cross from one
 screen to another. Logging in from another machine over SSH, top
 reveals that X is occupying 90-something% of the CPU; killing
 individual applications like firefox or xmms doesn't do anything but
 killing X gives me back a working, functional login screen.
 
 This is, as you might imagine, amazingly annoying. For whatever
 reason, it'll happen when I click specific links in Firefox (i.e. my
 professor's labs  assignments link) snip

Before going further, let me say that I agree that X is becoming a real
annoyance. I'm at this very moment upgrading to the unstable version
(6.8.2-r6, not the masked pre-7.0 versions; I'm not that desperate :-) )
to see if it helps.

That said, this would seem to be an interaction between 'problems with
X' and 'problems with Firefox' (we've had discussions of the increasing
memory usage of Firefox lately-- it may well be that both these sets of
issues are manageable on their own, but together, Firefox becomes the
straw that breaks the back of X.

So try using another web browser for a while. I myself like Galeon for
my alternate browser, but there's Epiphany, Dillo, Konqueror (of
course), kazehakase, w3m, amaya, skipstone, and of course the text-based
browsers such as links, lynx and so on. I would avoid Mozilla, because
it's about the only thing that could possibly be yet more bloated than
Firefox is becoming.

In any case, see if the problem persists when using another browser; if
it doesn't, then at least you can do your work, if it does, perhaps
we'll get more information as to what is going wrong.

Hope this helps,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] X freezes locks up, constantly

2005-11-08 Thread Phill MV
That's a pretty defeatist way of looking at it :P.
FIrefox seems to work just fine on every other X running desktop,
including a fellow Gentoo'er friend of mind;
Not to mention that simply stop using the application cos X has a bug
is, well, far out.

I'll go ahead with the mass recompile, I guess.
(PS. Opera 8.5 is waaay laggy for some reason and I like my extensions)


On 08/11/05, Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Phill MV schreef:
  Every now and then, usually while doing something related to firefox
  ( mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r2) but it's also happened when someone sent
  me a file over MSN in gaim (gaim-1.5.0), my copy of xorg-x11-6.8.2-r4
  will lock up and refuse all interaction.
 
  All windows stop responding; xmms keeps playing; keyboard locks up
  and the mouse, although free to wiggle around won't cross from one
  screen to another. Logging in from another machine over SSH, top
  reveals that X is occupying 90-something% of the CPU; killing
  individual applications like firefox or xmms doesn't do anything but
  killing X gives me back a working, functional login screen.
 
  This is, as you might imagine, amazingly annoying. For whatever
  reason, it'll happen when I click specific links in Firefox (i.e. my
  professor's labs  assignments link) snip

 Before going further, let me say that I agree that X is becoming a real
 annoyance. I'm at this very moment upgrading to the unstable version
 (6.8.2-r6, not the masked pre-7.0 versions; I'm not that desperate :-) )
 to see if it helps.

 That said, this would seem to be an interaction between 'problems with
 X' and 'problems with Firefox' (we've had discussions of the increasing
 memory usage of Firefox lately-- it may well be that both these sets of
 issues are manageable on their own, but together, Firefox becomes the
 straw that breaks the back of X.

 So try using another web browser for a while. I myself like Galeon for
 my alternate browser, but there's Epiphany, Dillo, Konqueror (of
 course), kazehakase, w3m, amaya, skipstone, and of course the text-based
 browsers such as links, lynx and so on. I would avoid Mozilla, because
 it's about the only thing that could possibly be yet more bloated than
 Firefox is becoming.

 In any case, see if the problem persists when using another browser; if
 it doesn't, then at least you can do your work, if it does, perhaps
 we'll get more information as to what is going wrong.

 Hope this helps,
 Holly
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