RE: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Matthew Sacks]

Thank you!

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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

On Monday, 1 August 2022 01:46:32 BST Matthew Sacks wrote:
> The vbox log and screenshot are all I have to go off. Next time I”ll provide
> that upfront. New to these parts (gentoo lists).

No problem.  :-)

> It crashes on boot actually to answer your question.

I've always run VBox on a linux host, so I am not familiar with MSWindows host
peculiarities.  However, I would think VBox on MSWindows would/should be plug
'n play.

>From what you've shown you're experiencing a kernel crash of the VM at boot.
I'd start by looking at the configuration of the linux kernel you're trying to
boot and at the same time consider the settings of the VM appropriate for your
hardware, e.g. use AHCI/NVMe for storage instead of PIIX, add more than one
CPU, adequate memory, etc.

Starting with these recommendations for Gentoo guests should get you in the
right ballpark:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/VirtualBox#Gentoo_guests

PS.  When you boot the Live media within the VM to install Gentoo make sure
you boot it as legacy BIOS or as UEFI and configure VBox to match.

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[J. Roeleveld]

On Monday, 1 August 2022 02:46:32 CEST Matthew Sacks wrote:
> The vbox log and screenshot are all I have to go off. Next time I?ll provide
> that upfront. New to these parts (gentoo lists).
> 
> It crashes on boot actually to answer your question.

Please stop top-posting. It makes these emails difficult to read.

Did you enable hardware virtualisation (VT) in the BIOS?
What are the VM-settings you use for the VM?
Does your host have sufficient CPU-cores and memory for the Host + the VM?

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> On 7/31/22 09:27, Matthew Sacks wrote:
> I cant get gentoo to run on virtualbox, segfaults or core dumps or
> something.
> 
> Please learn how to ask for help.  You have provided next to no useful
> information.  From the other thread, you provided a log, and the fact that
> you are trying to run a Gentoo guest on a Windows (which version?) host. 
> Which version of VB?  The latter might matter, as there have been some
> reports of VBox instability, although I believe those are on Linux hosts,
> not guests.
> 
> In the other thread, you mention that the crash happens on shutting down. 
> How did you shut down?  Have you tried other ways?  Have you checked the
> virtualbox forums for similar reports?
> 
> Jack

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Michael]

On Monday, 1 August 2022 01:46:32 BST Matthew Sacks wrote:
> The vbox log and screenshot are all I have to go off. Next time I”ll provide
> that upfront. New to these parts (gentoo lists).

No problem.  :-)

> It crashes on boot actually to answer your question.

I've always run VBox on a linux host, so I am not familiar with MSWindows host 
peculiarities.  However, I would think VBox on MSWindows would/should be plug 
'n play.

From what you've shown you're experiencing a kernel crash of the VM at boot.  
I'd start by looking at the configuration of the linux kernel you're trying to 
boot and at the same time consider the settings of the VM appropriate for your 
hardware, e.g. use AHCI/NVMe for storage instead of PIIX, add more than one 
CPU, adequate memory, etc.

Starting with these recommendations for Gentoo guests should get you in the 
right ballpark:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/VirtualBox#Gentoo_guests

PS.  When you boot the Live media within the VM to install Gentoo make sure 
you boot it as legacy BIOS or as UEFI and configure VBox to match.


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RE: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Matthew Sacks]

The vbox log and screenshot are all I have to go off. Next time I”ll provide 
that upfront. New to these parts (gentoo lists).

It crashes on boot actually to answer your question.

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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

On 7/31/22 09:27, Matthew Sacks wrote:
I cant get gentoo to run on virtualbox, segfaults or core dumps or something.

Please learn how to ask for help.  You have provided next to no useful 
information.  From the other thread, you provided a log, and the fact that you 
are trying to run a Gentoo guest on a Windows (which version?) host.  Which 
version of VB?  The latter might matter, as there have been some reports of 
VBox instability, although I believe those are on Linux hosts, not guests.

In the other thread, you mention that the crash happens on shutting down.  How 
did you shut down?  Have you tried other ways?  Have you checked the virtualbox 
forums for similar reports?

Jack

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 10:58 AM Jack 
wrote:

> Sorry, I misread.  You shut down after it crashes.  Any idea what makes
> it crash?  Does it crash if you just start it and just let it sit?
> >
> > Jack

Jack,
   I'm no expert at reading crash reports but the screenshot he provided
earlier looks to me like the boot started, worked its way through the
initram stuff and then when handing over control to the main kernel
got mixed up and jumped to address  which segfaults.

   I have no idea what that means in terms of a specific Gentoo
build. Is the kernel binary corrupted? The initram? Beyond my
abilities.

Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Jack]

On 2022.07.31 10:45, Jack wrote:

On 7/31/22 09:27, Matthew Sacks wrote:


I cant get gentoo to run on virtualbox, segfaults or core dumps or  
something.


Please learn how to ask for help.  You have provided next to no  
useful information.  From the other thread, you provided a log, and  
the fact that you are trying to run a Gentoo guest on a Windows  
(which version?) host.  Which version of VB?  The latter might  
matter, as there have been some reports of VBox instability, although  
I believe those are on Linux hosts, not guests.


In the other thread, you mention that the crash happens on shutting  
down.  How did you shut down?  Have you tried other ways?  Have you  
checked the virtualbox forums for similar reports?
Sorry, I misread.  You shut down after it crashes.  Any idea what makes  
it crash?  Does it crash if you just start it and just let it sit?


Jack

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Jack]

On 7/31/22 09:27, Matthew Sacks wrote:


I cant get gentoo to run on virtualbox, segfaults or core dumps or 
something.


Please learn how to ask for help.  You have provided next to no useful 
information.  From the other thread, you provided a log, and the fact 
that you are trying to run a Gentoo guest on a Windows (which version?) 
host.  Which version of VB?  The latter might matter, as there have been 
some reports of VBox instability, although I believe those are on Linux 
hosts, not guests.


In the other thread, you mention that the crash happens on shutting 
down.  How did you shut down?  Have you tried other ways?  Have you 
checked the virtualbox forums for similar reports?


Jack

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 7:08 AM Matthew Sacks 
wrote:
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> It crashes then I shut it down yeah.
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> Maybe a screenshot will help?
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> Attached.
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"invalid opcode: " is highly suspicious.

Lots of Google links about that causing systems to crash independent of VB.

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Julien Roy]

Did you add the proper kernel modules for virtualbox?
The Gentoo Wiki has a list of what you need to enable
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/VirtualBox#Gentoo_guests

On 7/31/22 10:08, Matthew Sacks wrote:

It crashes then I shut it down yeah.

Maybe a screenshot will help?

Attached.

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RE: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Matthew Sacks]

It crashes then I shut it down yeah.

Maybe a screenshot will help?

Attached.




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On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 6:40 AM Matthew Sacks 
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> On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 6:27 AM Matthew Sacks 
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> I cant get gentoo to run on virtualbox, segfaults or core dumps or something.
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So I'm not all that good at reading VBox log files but I don't see anything
obvious showing  a VBox problem. It looks like it starts booting and somewhere
around 20 seconds it gives up and then a minute later you shut the VM down.

Is this basically what happened?

So when Gentoo is booting what do you see in the VM's boot screen?

You appear to be running Win 11 as a host which I have no experience with.

Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Mark Knecht]

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 6:40 AM Matthew Sacks 
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> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2022 6:31 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes
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> VB log files at a minimum
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> On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 6:27 AM Matthew Sacks 
wrote:
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> I cant get gentoo to run on virtualbox, segfaults or core dumps or
something.
>
So I'm not all that good at reading VBox log files but I don't see anything
obvious showing  a VBox problem. It looks like it starts booting and
somewhere
around 20 seconds it gives up and then a minute later you shut the VM down.

Is this basically what happened?

So when Gentoo is booting what do you see in the VM's boot screen?

You appear to be running Win 11 as a host which I have no experience with.

Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Mark Knecht]

VB log files at a minimum

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 6:27 AM Matthew Sacks 
wrote:

> I cant get gentoo to run on virtualbox, segfaults or core dumps or
> something.
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[gentoo-user] virtualbox woes

[Matthew Sacks]

I cant get gentoo to run on virtualbox, segfaults or core dumps or something.

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