Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2006-01-16 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/15/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where do I find docs that go into all of this?

Select Help-Contents.  I'm not sure about player, but for
workstation the HTML help is in /opt/vmware/workstation/lib/help.  The
networking help is
file:/opt/vmware/workstation/lib/help/workstation/networking.htm

You can also find some help online (although I couldn't find anything
decent for player):

http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_net.html

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2006-01-15 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I had the unloadable modules. I then reran config today and it worked - 
config.pl created a new setup.  I turned the system on this morning so maybe 
that did it.

Can you explain host vs bridge vs other network options?  I want to have 
vmplayer use the same IP address as the system it's running on.

Thanks.

On Sunday 15 January 2006 01:46, Halo0784 (sent by Nabble.com) wrote:
 do you have module unloading compiled into your kernel?
 if not this is needed because of how the /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware
 script works

 also a debug check list
 first check for your vm modules
 lsmod

 this should show you your vmmon / vmnet modules

 also check your /dev folder for your vm files
 ls -l /dev/vm*

 this should show you vmmon / vmnet / vmnet0 and so on

 lastly if you find that you have module unloading support and all the above
 check out fine do

 rc-update add vmware default

 then just reboot

 a very windows approach to this i know but im lzy and it will do 2
 things... 1) shows you that your install is goin good  (if u reboot and
 vmware does'nt work then it aint a good install) 2) deals with any modules
 that may be loaded in as perment, im sure there may be a better way but ...
 im lzy =)

 as you reboot you should see the vm services load with the typical [ok]

 login then run your vmware as you would normally.
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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2006-01-15 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/15/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can you explain host vs bridge vs other network options?  I want to have
 vmplayer use the same IP address as the system it's running on.

The closest to what you said would be NAT networking.  In this case,
the guest receives an address on a private network, but can
communicate with the outside world using the host's address.  However,
nothing on the outside can get services from your guest.

If you want your guest to provide services to the rest of your
network, you need bridged networking.  In this case, both the host and
the guest show up on the network at different MAC addresses, and thus
can get different IP addresses.  It is just like if they were separate
computers.

Host networking is only if you do not want the guest to communicate
with the outside at all.  The only machine it can communicate with is
the host (or other guests) on a private network.

You can actually create multiple network cards for the guest using any
combination of the above.  I have used host-only networking to provide
samba shares to the guest, without exporting them to the rest of the
world, plus a bridged network connection for the guest to participate
in the LAN.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2006-01-15 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Hmm, I'll have to think about this.  At work I'm running vmplayer on XP and at 
home I have it on Gentoo.  For work, at this point I just want to have the 
vmplayer session to run Linux mail and news clients (because Windows doesn't 
have anything worthwhile).  This is at work and I have a static IP address 
that is allowed through to the outside so I have to use the address of the 
host.

Where do I find docs that go into all of this?

Thank you for the explanation.

On Sunday January 15 2006 20:05, Richard Fish wrote:
 On 1/15/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can you explain host vs bridge vs other network options?  I want to have
  vmplayer use the same IP address as the system it's running on.

 The closest to what you said would be NAT networking.  In this case,
 the guest receives an address on a private network, but can
 communicate with the outside world using the host's address.  However,
 nothing on the outside can get services from your guest.

 If you want your guest to provide services to the rest of your
 network, you need bridged networking.  In this case, both the host and
 the guest show up on the network at different MAC addresses, and thus
 can get different IP addresses.  It is just like if they were separate
 computers.

 Host networking is only if you do not want the guest to communicate
 with the outside at all.  The only machine it can communicate with is
 the host (or other guests) on a private network.

 You can actually create multiple network cards for the guest using any
 combination of the above.  I have used host-only networking to provide
 samba shares to the guest, without exporting them to the rest of the
 world, plus a bridged network connection for the guest to participate
 in the LAN.

 -Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2006-01-14 Thread Halo0784 (sent by Nabble.com)

well for the temp fix i did a simple tweak that seemed to work fine

backup purpose 
mv /etc/init.d/vmware /etc/init.d/old-vmware

then just link in the vmware file
ln -s /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware /etc/init.d/vmware

run the config script
vmware-config.pl

follow the instructions 

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2006-01-14 Thread Richard Fish
On 1/14/06, Halo0784 (sent by Nabble.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well for the temp fix i did a simple tweak that seemed to work fine

 backup purpose
 mv /etc/init.d/vmware /etc/init.d/old-vmware

 then just link in the vmware file
 ln -s /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware /etc/init.d/vmware

This sounds a bit dangerous to me...if you re-install or update vmware
you could get the file intended for /etc/init.d/vmware written to
/etc/vmware/init.d/vmware, and then an recusive loop as
/etc/init.d/vmware recursively executes itself.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2006-01-14 Thread Halo0784 (sent by Nabble.com)

well for /etc/init.d/vmware all it does is makes a pretty output to a call to the /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware file

but an append to my earlier post 

after following the instructions for the install created by the vmware-config script 
we can use the following commands to clean up what tweak we did

mv /etc/init.d/old-vmware /etc/init.d/vmware
rc-update add vmware default

now it is safe to reboot with the original gentoo script

ive done this tweaked install on 3 systems so far and all have been 100% safe and installed correctly
infact im useing IE6 in a full windows xp install running in vmware as i post this 

=) all with a very big smile to know that windows will no longer die when i dont want it to


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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2006-01-14 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
This post came at a good time.  I had just installed vmplayer on my XP box at 
work so I could run Linux and have some real mail and news programs.  So I 
decided to try it on gentoo.  Emerged it and it wouldn't configure - kept 
whining it couldn't stop vmware - of course not it wasn't running.

I did what you suggested in the first post and got it to configure.  I then 
did what you suggested here.  However, when I do /etc/init.d/vmware the first 
time it did this:

* Starting VMware services:  [ ok ]
 *   Virtual machine monitor   [ !! ]
 *   Virtual ethernet   [ !! ]  
 *   Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0 [ !! ]
 *   Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet1 (background)[ ok ]
 *   Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet8 (background)[ ok ]
 *   NAT service on /dev/vmnet8 [ !! ]

After that I get this when I try and start vmware.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d # /etc/init.d/vmware start
VMware Player is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
for the running kernel. To (re-)configure it, invoke the
following command: /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmware-config.pl.

If I run vmware-config.pl it complains it can't stop it.  I even repeated the 
steps in your first post.

Any ideas on what might be wrong?

Thanks.
On Sunday 15 January 2006 00:50, Halo0784 (sent by Nabble.com) wrote:
 well for /etc/init.d/vmware all it does is makes a pretty output to a call
 to the /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware file

 but an append to my earlier post

 after following the instructions for the install created by the
 vmware-config script we can use the following commands to clean up what
 tweak we did

 mv /etc/init.d/old-vmware /etc/init.d/vmware
 rc-update add vmware default

 now it is safe to reboot with the original gentoo script

 ive done this tweaked install on 3 systems so far and all have been 100%
 safe and installed correctly infact im useing IE6 in a full windows xp
 install running in vmware as i post this

 =) all with a very big smile to know that windows will no longer die when i
 dont want it to

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2006-01-14 Thread Halo0784 (sent by Nabble.com)

do you have module unloading compiled into your kernel?
  if not this is needed because of how the /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware script works

also a debug check list
first check for your vm modules
lsmod 

this should show you your vmmon / vmnet modules

also check your /dev folder for your vm files
ls -l /dev/vm* 

this should show you vmmon / vmnet / vmnet0 and so on

lastly if you find that you have module unloading support and all the above check out fine do 

rc-update add vmware default

then just reboot 

a very windows approach to this i know but im lzy and it will do 2 things... 1) shows you that your install is goin good (if u reboot and vmware does'nt work then it aint a good install) 2) deals with any modules that may be loaded in as perment, im sure there may be a better way but ... im lzy =)

as you reboot you should see the vm services load with the typical [ok]

login then run your vmware as you would normally.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2005-12-12 Thread Grant
   There is file in the directory /etc/vmware which you have to delete
   after a configure, for some strange reason. It's a blank file, but
   unfortunately I can't remember the filename anymore. Pbb something
   with config in its name.
 
  I believe it is called notconfigured and yes it is zero length.

 The file is /etc/vmware/not_configured.

 The problem is that /etc/init.d/vmware and /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware
 disagree about whether the daemons are running or not.  When you run
 vmware-config.pl, it starts the daemons by running
 /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware.  Running /etc/init.d/vmware status will
 show the daemons are not running, but trying to start that script will
 fail because they actually are running.

 This can result in either the not_configured file being recreated, or
 simply failing to start some of the services.  This also seems to be
 fixed for the current version of VMWare Workstation.

 -Richard

Ok, thanks everyone.  That seems like a bug that should be fixed for
4.5 and not require an upgrade.

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2005-12-11 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/11/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello, the vmware workstation daemon has always seemed a bit touchy,
 but it's being persistent this time.  When I run:

 /opt/vmware/workstation/bin/vmware-config.pl

 the daemon is started properly and I can fully use the application.
 But when Gentoo tries to start the daemon, 2 of the processes always
 fail and vmware-config.pl must be run again for it to start properly.
 Even trying to run 'rc' right after a successful completion of
 vmware-config.pl fails.

When I was using workstation 4.5, I found the best results if you run
/etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop after vmware-config.pl:

vmware-config.pl -default
/etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop
/etc/init.d/vmware start

HTH,
-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2005-12-11 Thread Jan Callewaert
2005/12/11, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 12/11/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello, the vmware workstation daemon has always seemed a bit touchy,
  but it's being persistent this time.  When I run:
 
  /opt/vmware/workstation/bin/vmware-config.pl
 
  the daemon is started properly and I can fully use the application.
  But when Gentoo tries to start the daemon, 2 of the processes always
  fail and vmware-config.pl must be run again for it to start properly.
  Even trying to run 'rc' right after a successful completion of
  vmware-config.pl fails.

 When I was using workstation 4.5, I found the best results if you run
 /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop after vmware-config.pl:

 vmware-config.pl -default
 /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop
 /etc/init.d/vmware start

 HTH,
 -Richard

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There is file in the directory /etc/vmware which you have to delete
after a configure, for some strange reason. It's a blank file, but
unfortunately I can't remember the filename anymore. Pbb something
with config in its name.

Jan

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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2005-12-11 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:33:31 +0100 Jan Callewaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2005/12/11, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On 12/11/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello, the vmware workstation daemon has always seemed a bit touchy,
  but it's being persistent this time.  When I run:
 
  /opt/vmware/workstation/bin/vmware-config.pl
 
  the daemon is started properly and I can fully use the application.
  But when Gentoo tries to start the daemon, 2 of the processes always
  fail and vmware-config.pl must be run again for it to start properly.
  Even trying to run 'rc' right after a successful completion of
  vmware-config.pl fails.

 When I was using workstation 4.5, I found the best results if you run
 /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop after vmware-config.pl:

 vmware-config.pl -default
 /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop
 /etc/init.d/vmware start

 HTH,
 -Richard

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 There is file in the directory /etc/vmware which you have to delete
 after a configure, for some strange reason. It's a blank file, but
 unfortunately I can't remember the filename anymore. Pbb something
 with config in its name.

I believe it is called notconfigured and yes it is zero length.

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem

2005-12-11 Thread Richard Fish
On 12/11/05, Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:33:31 +0100 Jan Callewaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  2005/12/11, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On 12/11/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello, the vmware workstation daemon has always seemed a bit touchy,
   but it's being persistent this time.  When I run:
  
   /opt/vmware/workstation/bin/vmware-config.pl
  
   the daemon is started properly and I can fully use the application.
   But when Gentoo tries to start the daemon, 2 of the processes always
   fail and vmware-config.pl must be run again for it to start properly.
   Even trying to run 'rc' right after a successful completion of
   vmware-config.pl fails.
 
  When I was using workstation 4.5, I found the best results if you run
  /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop after vmware-config.pl:
 
  vmware-config.pl -default
  /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware stop
  /etc/init.d/vmware start
 
  HTH,
  -Richard
 
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  There is file in the directory /etc/vmware which you have to delete
  after a configure, for some strange reason. It's a blank file, but
  unfortunately I can't remember the filename anymore. Pbb something
  with config in its name.

 I believe it is called notconfigured and yes it is zero length.

The file is /etc/vmware/not_configured.

The problem is that /etc/init.d/vmware and /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware
disagree about whether the daemons are running or not.  When you run
vmware-config.pl, it starts the daemons by running
/etc/vmware/init.d/vmware.  Running /etc/init.d/vmware status will
show the daemons are not running, but trying to start that script will
fail because they actually are running.

This can result in either the not_configured file being recreated, or
simply failing to start some of the services.  This also seems to be
fixed for the current version of VMWare Workstation.

-Richard

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