Re: [gentoo-user] why media-libs are needed for an email client.
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:39:53 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 03:53:14 -0800, Edward M wrote: > > > So basically > > kmail needs media-libs that KDE uses so it can play sound > > notifications, even though i'm using another DE instead of KDE? > > Yes. If you were using KDE, all of those dependencies would already > be in place for desktop notifications. It beats me why anyone would > want to use KMail on KDE, let alone with any other DE. > > Thanks for confirming I'm on the right track. I 'm glad that I finally understood it from the kind help I received in all the replies. I saw kmail mentioned somewhere and i got curious about it, but after i noticed the depends it was pulling i lost that curiosity. I'm sticking to claws-mail.
Re: [gentoo-user] why media-libs are needed for an email client.
On Sunday 29 Dec 2013 14:39:53 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 03:53:14 -0800, Edward M wrote: > > So basically > > > > kmail needs media-libs that KDE uses so it can play sound > > notifications, even though i'm using another DE instead of KDE? > > Yes. If you were using KDE, all of those dependencies would already be in > place for desktop notifications. It beats me why anyone would want to use > KMail on KDE, let alone with any other DE. Before all this KDE4 semantic desktop and KDEPIM nightmare was inflicted upon Linux users, kmail was one of the better mail clients out there. It worked beautifully with maildir file structure, integrated nicely with kgpg and kleopatra, and its flat file address book met the needs of most desktop users (who didn't need a CRM application and database as their mail address book). Then the KDE4 ecosystem happened ... I still unsure what it tried to imitate: the worst things of Gnome or MSWindows? :-( -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] why media-libs are needed for an email client.
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 03:53:14 -0800, Edward M wrote: > So basically > kmail needs media-libs that KDE uses so it can play sound > notifications, even though i'm using another DE instead of KDE? Yes. If you were using KDE, all of those dependencies would already be in place for desktop notifications. It beats me why anyone would want to use KMail on KDE, let alone with any other DE. -- Neil Bothwick Psychiatrists say that 1 of 4 people are mentally ill. Check three friends. If they're OK, you're it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why media-libs are needed for an email client.
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 11:08:03 + Mick wrote: > On Sunday 29 Dec 2013 01:38:57 Edward M wrote: > > > > So maybe KDE is pulling in something. > > > >I guess I will continue using > > claws-mail,since i only send text emails. > >Thanks for new options i was not aware. > > I'm guessing that KDE uses phonon to play sound notifications, e.g. > when you get a new message in your kmail Inbox, which requires > gstreamer and friends. Since I only use lxde as my DE and I don't have anything from KDE installed, I was getting little confuse,as to why those media-libs were needed, but now with these two replies I received. it is making more sense. So basically kmail needs media-libs that KDE uses so it can play sound notifications, even though i'm using another DE instead of KDE? > > Kmail does not play anything inside messages. When you click on an > attachment it will ask you to save it or open it with the default > application, depending on the mime type of the attachment. Now i know, thanks.
Re: [gentoo-user] why media-libs are needed for an email client.
On Sunday 29 Dec 2013 01:38:57 Edward M wrote: > > So maybe KDE is pulling in something. > >I guess I will continue using > claws-mail,since i only send text emails. >Thanks for new options i was not aware. I'm guessing that KDE uses phonon to play sound notifications, e.g. when you get a new message in your kmail Inbox, which requires gstreamer and friends. Kmail does not play anything inside messages. When you click on an attachment it will ask you to save it or open it with the default application, depending on the mime type of the attachment. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] why media-libs are needed for an email client.
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 01:10:16 + Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: > On 29/12/13 00:14, Edward M wrote: > > Hello, > > > > > > I want to give kmail a try but i'm confuse why multimedia libs > > depends are needed for an email client. > > Perhaps because a lot of software nowadays attempts to do everything > at once. Maybe it plays sound attachments inside of the client. Now after you mention it, I agree. I only send text emails > > I get the following media-libs when i > > execute emerge -a kmail: > > > > [snip] > > I recommend that you use the ‘-t’ portage flag in the future to see > what pulls in what. I also recommend ‘-v’. Thanks for the recommendation, I will use them in the future. >Now, having said that, I don't see anything directly in the ebuild > that would pull in those libraries. Here's however what I got when > seeing what it will do on a system with gstreamer USE and no KDE: > > # required by media-libs/phonon-gstreamer-4.7.1 > # required by media-libs/phonon-4.7.1[gstreamer] > # required by kde-base/kdelibs-4.12.0 > # required by kde-base/korganizer-4.12.0 > # required by kde-base/kmail-4.12.0 > # required by kmail (argument) > >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r8:0.10 vorbis > > > So maybe KDE is pulling in something. I guess I will continue using claws-mail,since i only send text emails. Thanks for new options i was not aware.
Re: [gentoo-user] why media-libs are needed for an email client.
On 29/12/13 00:14, Edward M wrote: > Hello, > > > I want to give kmail a try but i'm confuse why multimedia libs depends > are needed for an email client. Perhaps because a lot of software nowadays attempts to do everything at once. Maybe it plays sound attachments inside of the client. > I get the following media-libs when i > execute emerge -a kmail: > > [snip] I recommend that you use the ‘-t’ portage flag in the future to see what pulls in what. I also recommend ‘-v’. Now, having said that, I don't see anything directly in the ebuild that would pull in those libraries. Here's however what I got when seeing what it will do on a system with gstreamer USE and no KDE: # required by media-libs/phonon-gstreamer-4.7.1 # required by media-libs/phonon-4.7.1[gstreamer] # required by kde-base/kdelibs-4.12.0 # required by kde-base/korganizer-4.12.0 # required by kde-base/kmail-4.12.0 # required by kmail (argument) >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r8:0.10 vorbis So maybe KDE is pulling in something. -- Mateusz K.
[gentoo-user] why media-libs are needed for an email client.
Hello, I want to give kmail a try but i'm confuse why multimedia libs depends are needed for an email client.I get the following media-libs when i execute emerge -a kmail: media-libs/gst-plugins-bad-0.10.23-r1 [1.0.10] USE="nls orc" [ebuild N ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-x-0.10.36 [ebuild N ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo-0.10.36 [ebuild N ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10.36 [ebuild N ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-ogg-0.10.36 [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-cdparanoia-0.10.36 [1.0.10] [ebuild N ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-soup-0.10.31 [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-a52dec-0.10.19 [1.0.10] USE="orc" [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-oss-0.10.31 [1.0.10] [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-resindvd-0.10.23 [1.0.10] [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvdread-0.10.19 [1.0.10] [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-faad-0.10.23 [1.0.10] [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-dts-0.10.23 [1.0.10] USE="orc" [ebuild N ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvid-0.10.23 [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-lame-0.10.19 [1.0.10] [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-x264-0.10.19 [ebuild N ] media-libs/phonon-gstreamer-4.6.3 USE="alsa network -debug" [ebuild N ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-ffmpeg-0.10.13_p201211-r1 USE="orc" [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-meta-0.10-r8 [1.0-r1] USE="X a52 aac alsa cdda dts dvd ffmpeg flac lame mp3 mpeg ogg oss pulseaudio vorbis x264 xv xvid -dv -dvb -http -jack -libass -libvisual -mms -musepack -opus -taglib -theora -v4l -vcd -vpx -wavpack" ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-pulse-0.10.31 [1.0.10] [ebuild NS] media-plugins/gst-plugins-mpeg2dec-0.10.19 [1.0.10] [ebuild N ] media-libs/giflib-4.1.6-r2 USE="X -rle -static-libs" [ebuild N ] media-gfx/exiv2-0.23-r1 USE="nls zlib -contrib -doc -examples -static-libs -xmp" LINGUAS="-de -es -fi -fr -pl -ru -sk"
