Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Install CD

2006-04-30 Thread Hani Duwaik
Not sure if you've come up with a solution yet, but if you have a floppy or usb drive, you could do an 'emerge -pv ipw2200' to find out what files it needs, grab them from another system and just place them in '/usr/portage/distfiles'.
This should let you install support for ipw2200.HTH,-Hani


Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Install CD

2006-04-29 Thread JimD
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> 
> You must not have the correct CD.  A stage (among other things) is a 
> requirement for networkless install.  There's been a stage on the full 
> (not minimal) install CDs of gentoo in the 2004.3, 2005.0, 2005.1 and 
> 2006.0 releases.
> 
> I don't know about that crazy CD with the new graphical installer, from 
> what I've seen on the list it's added confusion and fails to install in a 
> number of situations.  Maybe it doesn't have a stage3, but if it doesn't 
> it's not going to be able to install Gentoo w/o network support.

I did grab the graphical CD.  The graphical CD is nice for systems that
it fully supports like my desktop.  Using the graphical CD I was able to
have a gnome desktop with FF to browse while I waited for Gentoo to get
installed.  I guess because of space constraints, there is not room for
a stage.  That is normally not a problem if you have a fast connection.

The regular install CD seems to be the best bet though, especially for
non-network installs.

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Install CD

2006-04-29 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 29 April 2006 09:59, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote 
about '[gentoo-user] x86 Install CD':
> Is there anyway to modify the x86 install CD?

Same as modifying any install CD.

> Last night I tried to install Gentoo on my laptop and things just didn't
> work out.

Hrm, lets see if we can't fix that.

> I know all the major devices work with Linux because I put in Ubuntu
> 6.06 - Dapper Drake and my Intel wireless ipw2200 and sound worked OTB.
> The sound didn't work with the Gentoo install CD which is no biggie
> since I can fix that after install.  However, the killer was that there
> was no support for ipw2200!  I looked in /lib/firmware and there were
> the firmware binaries for the 2100, but not the 2200.  I couldn't
> download the firmware since Gentoo didn't have support for my wireless
> card.

Gentoo does have support for the ipw2200, but evidently it was not included 
on the install CD you were booting from.

Of course, it doesn't much matter if you boot from a Gentoo CD to install 
Gentoo.  Some of the CDs contain stage files, portage snapshots, 
distfiles, and/or binary packages but you don't have to have these on the 
CD you boot from -- they are all downloadable.  Also, once you get the 
system bootable on it's own you can reboot into it and still use packages 
from the package CD.

> I tried to do an install without network but it failed.  Looking 
> at the log, emerge tried to get to the net.  I also noticed that there
> was no stage-3 on the x86 liveCD installer so I picked to make the
> packages from the CD itself.

You must not have the correct CD.  A stage (among other things) is a 
requirement for networkless install.  There's been a stage on the full 
(not minimal) install CDs of gentoo in the 2004.3, 2005.0, 2005.1 and 
2006.0 releases.

I don't know about that crazy CD with the new graphical installer, from 
what I've seen on the list it's added confusion and fails to install in a 
number of situations.  Maybe it doesn't have a stage3, but if it doesn't 
it's not going to be able to install Gentoo w/o network support.

> I put in a pcmcia D-Link card and dmesg showed it, however iwconfig
> didn't list it and Gentoo didn't do anything with it.  The docs on the
> CD weren't much help for wireless.

Probably just need to poke around a little bit more, but I've not had much 
experience setting wireless when booting from a Gentoo installation CD.

> I am going on vacation tomorrow and would really like to have Gentoo,
> though I will "deal" with Ubuntu 6.06 if need be.

Do you already have Dapper installed?  If so, you can install Gentoo in a 
chroot from your existing installation.  Almost nothing changes about the 
install process, you just have to download everything that would normally 
ship on CD, not damage your DD installation before making it possible to 
boot Gentoo, and remove your DD installation afterwards.

If not, you could either do a minimalistic install of DD that supports your 
ipw2200 and then use it to install Gentoo OR, if the DD installation CD 
brings up your ipw2200, exit the DD installer after it brings up the 
ipw2200 and use that environment for a Gentoo install.

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Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Install CD - Success

2006-04-29 Thread JimD
Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> 
> Yup, ipw2200 works fine with Gentoo. I have never tried installing with
> wireless though. Have you tried networkless install to get it working
> and then once gentoo is running update the system? Or perhaps install on
> a wired connection (I'm sure you would try this if you have the ability
> to =)
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.0/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
> (includes instructions for networkless install)
> 
> Sry, I can't help on the installer issue, I haven't ever used the LiveCD
> to install, only console.
> 
> -Jeremy

Thanks for the tips Jeremy.

I did get it to work.  I will file a bug with Gentoo about the install
CD missing the ipw2200 firmware.

For those interested here is what I needed to do.  My laptop is a new
Toshiba and has an Intel Pro ipw2200 based wireless along with a wired
eth0.  However the wired nic is a Marvell Tech. piece of junk and does
not work.  So the only two options I had were to get my ipw2200 working,
which I knew worked under Ubuntu or try my D-Link pc card.  The PC card
did not work.

What I did was boot with the latest Ubuntu install CD.  It is very nice
and is a full working Gnome system.  That CD did have the needed ipw2200
firmware binaries so I could get to the net.  However, it did not have a
compile tool chain so I could not build Gentoo chroot with it.  I used
the Ubuntu CD to cfdisk my partitions just like I would with Gentoo.  I
then downloaded the firmware (I grabbed every version to be safe) to the
new partitions and booted with the Gentoo install CD.  I then modprob -r
ipw220, turned off the hardware switch for my wireless card and
extracted all the firmware tarballs.  Flipped the wireless switch on,
modprobe ipw2200 and net-setup eth1.  I then had to manually us iwconfig
and then I was able to ping my gateway and get to the net.

I get to have Gentoo on my vacation!

Jim
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Re: [gentoo-user] x86 Install CD

2006-04-29 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Jim wrote:
> Has anyone gotten an Intel pro wireless 2200 (ipw2200) working with
> Gentoo and more specifically with the installer?

Yup, ipw2200 works fine with Gentoo. I have never tried installing with
wireless though. Have you tried networkless install to get it working
and then once gentoo is running update the system? Or perhaps install on
a wired connection (I'm sure you would try this if you have the ability
to =)

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2006.0/handbook-x86.xml?full=1
(includes instructions for networkless install)

Sry, I can't help on the installer issue, I haven't ever used the LiveCD
to install, only console.

-Jeremy

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[gentoo-user] x86 Install CD

2006-04-29 Thread Jim
Is there anyway to modify the x86 install CD?

Last night I tried to install Gentoo on my laptop and things just didn't
work out.

I know all the major devices work with Linux because I put in Ubuntu
6.06 - Dapper Drake and my Intel wireless ipw2200 and sound worked OTB.
The sound didn't work with the Gentoo install CD which is no biggie
since I can fix that after install.  However, the killer was that there
was no support for ipw2200!  I looked in /lib/firmware and there were
the firmware binaries for the 2100, but not the 2200.  I couldn't
download the firmware since Gentoo didn't have support for my wireless
card.  I tried to do an install without network but it failed.  Looking
at the log, emerge tried to get to the net.  I also noticed that there
was no stage-3 on the x86 liveCD installer so I picked to make the
packages from the CD itself.

I put in a pcmcia D-Link card and dmesg showed it, however iwconfig
didn't list it and Gentoo didn't do anything with it.  The docs on the
CD weren't much help for wireless.

I am going on vacation tomorrow and would really like to have Gentoo,
though I will "deal" with Ubuntu 6.06 if need be.

Has anyone gotten an Intel pro wireless 2200 (ipw2200) working with
Gentoo and more specifically with the installer?

Thanks,

Jim
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