Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
On Wed, 2005-09-28 at 14:46 +0530, vikram ranade wrote: > My question is .. > Is X already installed? (the system boots to a text login) no. > how do i start X? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=desktop > How do I install new software ? (gnome and so on) http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=gentoo -- Janne -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-09-28 14:46 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is X already installed? (the system boots to a text login) Most likely. I did a stage 3 installation of 2005.1 a few days ago and ended up getting both X and a whole bunch of other stuff installed. Chances are you have it, too. "etcat -s x11" will tell you for sure. If not, doing "emerge xorg-x11" as root will install it. > how do i start X? Log in, then issue the command "startx" (no, really!). If you want the system to boot to a graphical login, log in as root and issue the command "rc-update add xdm default" to add the X display manager (xdm) to the default runlevel. > How do I install new software ? (gnome and so on) Use "emerge", preferably with the "-a" (--ask) option so that you have a chance to bail out before it installs everything and the kitchen sink if you don't want it to. "emerge -s" (--search) will search for a package with a name containing the given string. See "man emerge" for more possibilities. - -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDOmxqdY+HSb3praYRApKEAKCb9mX2u10JMuWNhRQ4m+TvGsJezwCfSYXz umlOeFm0E7Rxqllw+AjpJBM= =BlzV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
On Sep 28, 2005, at 5:11 AM, Michael Kjorling wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-09-28 14:46 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is X already installed? (the system boots to a text login) Most likely. I did a stage 3 installation of 2005.1 a few days ago and ended up getting both X and a whole bunch of other stuff installed. Chances are you have it, too. A stage 3 will not install X, unless you do emerge something after install that requires Xlike when I did an emerge kde-meta...that got X installed, then kde and xdm, etc. "etcat -s x11" will tell you for sure. If not, doing "emerge xorg-x11" as root will install it. how do i start X? Log in, then issue the command "startx" (no, really!). If you want the system to boot to a graphical login, log in as root and issue the command "rc-update add xdm default" to add the X display manager (xdm) to the default runlevel. How do I install new software ? (gnome and so on) Use "emerge", preferably with the "-a" (--ask) option so that you have a chance to bail out before it installs everything and the kitchen sink if you don't want it to. "emerge -s" (--search) will search for a package with a name containing the given string. See "man emerge" for more possibilities. - -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDOmxqdY+HSb3praYRApKEAKCb9mX2u10JMuWNhRQ4m+TvGsJezwCfSYXz umlOeFm0E7Rxqllw+AjpJBM= =BlzV -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-09-28 06:52 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A stage 3 will not install X, unless you do emerge something after install > that requires Xlike when I did an emerge kde-meta...that got X > installed, then kde and xdm, etc. That's right. Since this was on a laptop, I emerged the PCMCIA tools, which has X tools. So X got emerged as a dependency because I did not explicitly disable it (and I wanted X, anyway). - -- Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDOobZdY+HSb3praYRAjuTAJ43ReCDwBSNTsPyz5b+pW22+xskvwCfbrsC fWmrsjddYCsFsJvUQnKuOxA= =fJv5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
Thanks for the response..I will chek it out as soon as the emerge --update finishes it is taking forever to compile on my T20 (P-III 750) Regards, Vikram >> Most likely. I did a stage 3 installation of 2005.1 a few days ago and> ended up getting both X and a whole bunch of other stuff installed.> Chances are you have it, too.>A stage 3 will not install X, unless you do emerge something after install that requires Xlike when I did an emerge kde-meta...thatgot X installed, then kde and xdm, etc.>
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 07:04, Michael Kjorling wrote: > On 2005-09-28 06:52 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > A stage 3 will not install X, unless you do emerge something after > > install that requires Xlike when I did an emerge kde-meta...that got > > X installed, then kde and xdm, etc. > > That's right. Since this was on a laptop, I emerged the PCMCIA tools, > which has X tools. So X got emerged as a dependency because I did not > explicitly disable it (and I wanted X, anyway). Yes, I guess I was unclear...my point was that it was not the stage3 install that installed x...it was an emerge of something that required x. When I emerged the pcmcia tools on THIS laptop, I did it with -X in the USE flags, so X wasn't emerged until the kde install. > > -- > Michael Kjörling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ > * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * > * . No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings . * -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
Am Mittwoch, den 28.09.2005, 14:46 +0530 schrieb vikram ranade: > Hello all, hi! > I am very new to gentoo (used to use Red Hat earlier) > I have installed gentoo using the networkless install with the 2005.1 > universal CD. > I have got the system booting perfectly and detecting all the hardware > as well. > I got the network connection working and now I am running > #emerge --update --deep world > to get the latest version of the system. > > My question is .. > Is X already installed? (the system boots to a text login) probably not. > how do i start X? log into the console and type "startx". > How do I install new software ? (gnome and so on) if X is not installed, type "emerge xorg-x11". for gnome the same, "emerge gnome". theres are some cool gtk-frontends out to emerge, my favorite is "portage" ;). > check out http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml and http://gentoo-wiki.com/Main_Page and, for sure, the emerge-manpage and the mailing-list archive for help on installing software and managing gentoo. > Thanks! > Best regards, > Vikram > no problem. josef -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
oki I am still stuck at installing gnome..taking forever to compile :-(
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
I emerged the mirrorselect pakage and set the mirror to asia but any emerge operation still goes to distfiles.gentoo.org do I need to do anything more to "fix" the new settings? Thanks, Vikram On 9/29/05, vikram ranade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: oki I am still stuck at installing gnome..taking forever to compile :-(
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
vikram ranade schreef: > oki I am still stuck at installing gnome..taking forever to > compile :-( Sympathies Gnome as a whole isn't so bad; it's just that some of the packages required in the full GNOME monty are among the longest to compile-- most notably mozilla. Even stripped via USE flags (-mozcalendar -mozdevelop +moznocompose +moznoirc +moznomail -moznoxft +mozsvg), it still takes till doomsday to compile, and a number of programs in the full 'gnome' metapackage depend on it. Which is the main reason I hate to bring it up, since you're already in the middle of the compile, but you probably should know which is one of the reasons that I never 'emerge gnome' but always 'emerge gnome-light' instead. But maybe you need Mozilla and Epiphany and Evolution and Evolution Data Server and Sound (bloody) Juicer, in which case, you must suffer the bloated time-consuming compile. On the occasions that I need such an awful compile during the installation process (for instance, I usually want to at least install kdelibs, which also takes forever, because I use a lot of KDE apps, though rarely KDE itself), I usually install a very light WM, like IceWM, as the last stage of install, just to have something I can use to boot into, and have something like a completed system (meaning "with X") installed, from which I then compile GNOME or KDE or whatever. Even WindowMaker or AfterStep will do for this purpose, if you like those WMs (and there's plenty to like about them, despite their advanced age and lack of 'modernness'). Heaven knows, they take some 10 or 15 minutes to compile, if that long, and of course system-dependent; I have an Athlon XP 2200+ and 512MB ram, so not really a super-charged setup, though naturally much faster than some of the PIIs and PIIIs I know exist around here-- and the compilation time does not include X of course, but there's no getting around that whatever WM or DE you install. The quick compile of the older WMs is not to be sneezed at by any means, and WindowMaker and AfterStep are pretty usable out of the box, even for those who didn't 'grow up with' them, as many old-school users did. IceWM is for those who 'grew up with' Windows, and is probably a better choice for users who 'grew up with' Win95 and 98. Just ideas for the future, in case you ever need/want/are asked to install Gentoo to another machine. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
> -Original Message- > From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 September 2005 14:43 > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install > [snip] > The quick > compile of the older WMs is not to be sneezed at by any means, and > WindowMaker and AfterStep are pretty usable out of the box, even for > those who didn't 'grow up with' them, as many old-school users > did. IceWM is for those who 'grew up with' Windows, and is probably a > better choice for users who 'grew up with' Win95 and 98. [OT warning] I wonder, are there any statistics for what WM's do people use? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
Which is the main reason I hate to bring it up, since you're alreadyin the middle of the compile, but you probably should know which is one of the reasons that I never 'emerge gnome' but always 'emergegnome-light' instead. But maybe you need Mozilla and Epiphany andEvolution and Evolution Data Server and Sound (bloody) Juicer, in whichcase, you must suffer the bloated time-consuming compile. Oh well cant help it now.Since this is a first Gentoo experience for me...might as well get all of gnome installed and then mess with the system a littlecan always do it all over again (via the sensible route)there is no way im kidding my self that this install is going to last... since this is not a production machinemore like my sandbox to try stuff out... I have an Athlon XP 2200+ and 512MB ram, so not really a super-charged setup, though naturally much faster than some of the PIIs and PIIIs I know existaround here-- HaH!...Im doomed to suffer in that case..Mine is a PIII-750 with 256 MB RAM:-) Thanks anyhow, Dying to post "success with Gentoo GUI!" Regards, Vikram
