Re: [gentoo-user] A question regarding non-Portage software...
On Sunday 11 March 2007, Alex Schuster wrote: Additionally, I like to have the stuff separated in sub-directories of /usr/local, and use stow or better xstow to create symlinks, so the software appears to be installed directly in /usr/local. That sounds like an awful lot of work, all for no additional benefit. /usr/local is for locally compiled pieces of software, and normally one runs 'make uninstall' in the code's src dir to remove it. Also, /usr/local is not supposed to have a hierarchy of sub-dir's (a'la windows) beneath it per LFS. /opt is a better choice for that. As Bo and others have mentioned, an ebuild that you create yourself and place in a local overlay is by far the best solution, *especially* if the package installs just fine with './configure make make install'. In that case, the ebuild is literally just a few statements such as SRC_URI, HOMEPAGE and perhaps a DEPENDS if there are selectable configs. You gain all the benefits of stow plus all the benefits of portage, including emerge -C to remove the package from the system Try it, it's WAY easier than most folk think it is alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A question regarding non-Portage software...
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:10:22 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: I am hoping that someone can provide me with resources - examples and/or a walkthrough would be especially helpful. I realize that the Gentoo team can only do so much and carefully test each package before putting it in the official tree. There are just some pieces of software that I want that are not even in the testing tree. The devmanual is a good place to start. If you use IRC then #gentoo-dev-help at freenode is a good place to get more help... Also, search Bugzilla and the forums, someone may have already created ebuilds for these programs. Also look at ebuilds for similar programs. Write an ebuild, its not that difficult in a simple case. With an ebuild, it is much easier to uninstall and upgrade packages. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A question regarding non-Portage software...
On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:10:22 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: I am hoping that someone can provide me with resources - examples and/or a walkthrough would be especially helpful. I realize that the Gentoo team can only do so much and carefully test each package before putting it in the official tree. There are just some pieces of software that I want that are not even in the testing tree. The devmanual is a good place to start. If you use IRC then #gentoo-dev-help at freenode is a good place to get more help... Also, search Bugzilla and the forums, someone may have already created ebuilds for these programs. -- Neil Bothwick Amoebit: Amoeba/rabbit cross; it can multiply and divide at the same time. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A question regarding non-Portage software...
Michael [Plouj] Ploujnikov writes: You most likely want to install that software in /usr/local as per Gentoo's filesystem layout [1]. The way you can do that with autotoolized software is like this: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local make make install I don't know what you mean by making Portage recognize the software installed this way. Do you want Portage to be able to uninstall and/or upgrade this software? If so, the simple answer is you it can't do that. You have to manage the software outside of Portage yourself. Additionally, I like to have the stuff separated in sub-directories of /usr/local, and use stow or better xstow to create symlinks, so the software appears to be installed directly in /usr/local. emerge xstow mkdir /usr/local/stow ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/stow/foo-1.2.3 make make install cd /usr/local/stow xstow foo-1.2.3 To later uninstall, without the need to use make uninstall: cd /usr/local/stow xstow -D foo-1.2.3 \rm -r foo-1.2.3 Or to try out a newer version of foo, without deleting foo-1.2.3: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/stow/foo-1.2.4 make make install cd /usr/local/stow xstow -D foo-1.2.3 xstow foo-1.2.4 Alex -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A question regarding non-Portage software...
On Sunday 11 March 2007 05:25:24 Chris wrote: I will begin by stating my problem. I have the source code (in *.tar.bz2 format) for a couple of pieces of software that are not in the Portage tree at all. I would like to compile and install them in such a way that I can use them, and even so Portage recognizes them. I have read the official Gentoo documentation regarding Portage, ebuilds and diverting from the Portage tree and while it gave me some ideas, it really didn't fully answer the question of exactly *how* to do what I want. I am hoping that someone can provide me with resources - examples and/or a walkthrough would be especially helpful. I realize that the Gentoo team can only do so much and carefully test each package before putting it in the official tree. There are just some pieces of software that I want that are not even in the testing tree. The devmanual is a good place to start. If you use IRC then #gentoo-dev-help at freenode is a good place to get more help... http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml -- Bo Andresen pgpZZCVZGoIVg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A question regarding non-Portage software...
On 3/10/07, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello Everyone, I will begin by stating my problem. I have the source code (in *.tar.bz2 format) for a couple of pieces of software that are not in the Portage tree at all. I would like to compile and install them in such a way that I can use them, and even so Portage recognizes them. You most likely want to install that software in /usr/local as per Gentoo's filesystem layout [1]. The way you can do that with autotoolized software is like this: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local make make install I don't know what you mean by making Portage recognize the software installed this way. Do you want Portage to be able to uninstall and/or upgrade this software? If so, the simple answer is you it can't do that. You have to manage the software outside of Portage yourself. I have read the official Gentoo documentation regarding Portage, ebuilds and diverting from the Portage tree and while it gave me some ideas, it really didn't fully answer the question of exactly *how* to do what I want. You probably arrived at this state because that documentation wasn't talking about what you really wanted :) References: [1] - http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/filesystem/index.html -- Libre Software: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
