Re: [gentoo-user] How can I turn off xterm console restore?
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:37:41PM +, Mick wrote > Excellent solution for the OP's question, but what can you do to stop > the terminal collapsing completely, when it is launched to just run > a command that exits after it runs? Once I realized that my problem was an xterm option, not a system setting, I plowed through "man xterm". You can include "-hold" on the xterm command line, or use the "hold" xresource option to do freeze rather than destroy the terminal on exit. -- Walter Dnes
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I turn off xterm console restore?
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:56:02PM -0800, Bill Longman wrote > You can always call it back up. The other window, that is. Just > Ctrl-middle-click the xterm and choose "Show alternate screen". > > Presto. > > It's saved my bacon more than once Yes that works. There's an even better option listed when I middle- click. The option "Enable Alternate Screen Switching" is checked by default on my system. Unchecking it disables alternate screen switching, which does what I was asking for. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. The ultimate solution is to make this a default. Once I realized this was an xterm setting, I plowed through "man xterm" and discovered... > titeInhibit (class TiteInhibit) > Specifies whether or not xterm should remove ti and te termcap > entries (used to switch between alternate screens on startup of > many screen-oriented programs) from the TERMCAP string. If > set, xterm also ignores the escape sequence to switch to the > alternate screen. A Google search found http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/XWindow-User-HOWTO/moreconfig.html which includes the ~/.Xdefaults incantation... ! Do not clear the screen after the program exits XTerm*VT100*titeInhibit: true -- Walter Dnes
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I turn off xterm console restore?
On Monday 24 January 2011 20:56:02 Bill Longman wrote: > You can always call it back up. The other window, that is. Just > Ctrl-middle-click the xterm and choose "Show alternate screen". > > Presto. > > It's saved my bacon more than once > > Bill Yes! I had forgotten about that! Thanks Bill. :-) Excellent solution for the OP's question, but what can you do to stop the terminal collapsing completely, when it is launched to just run a command that exits after it runs? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I turn off xterm console restore?
On 01/21/2011 09:45 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> As soon as some textmode applications in xterm stop, their output gets
> wiped, and the xterm screen is restored to what it looked like before I
> launched the app. Somebody thought they were being "helpful"; then
> again, so did the designers of "Clippy". I don't know how many updates
> ago the behaviour changed, but here's what happens...
>
> Let's say I'm having a problem with packet loss to/from a certain
> internet server. I would run "mtr" which gives an ongoing enhanced
> traceroute display. When it gets to the router that's dropping packets
> I would hit "Q" and mtr quits.
>
> Before the update
> =
> I would copy/paste the mtr output into an email, and send it off to
> whomever, with the output showing the packet-loss stats.
>
> After the update
>
> As soon as mtr quits, its output gets wiped, and the xterm screen is
> restored to the state it was in before mtr was launched... helpful NOT!
>
> I've discovered that I can suspend it with {CTRL-S}, but I shouldn't
> have to resort to that. Using Google, I found references to
> "man termcap", which stated that this behaviour was controlled by
> entries in /etc/termcap. Despite the fact that I have the termcap man
> page on my system, I do *NOT* have /etc/termcap. Does anyone have a
> sample /etc/termcap (or will ~/.termcap work?) to stop the screen
> restore after a text application quits?
>
Walter,
You can always call it back up. The other window, that is. Just
Ctrl-middle-click the xterm and choose "Show alternate screen".
Presto.
It's saved my bacon more than once
Bill
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I turn off xterm console restore?
On Saturday 22 January 2011 05:45:27 Walter Dnes wrote:
> As soon as some textmode applications in xterm stop, their output gets
> wiped, and the xterm screen is restored to what it looked like before I
> launched the app. Somebody thought they were being "helpful"; then
> again, so did the designers of "Clippy". I don't know how many updates
> ago the behaviour changed, but here's what happens...
Hmm ... as far as I can recall with xterm/aterm this behaviour for some
commands is the expected/default behaviour. I've looked into it for things
like top et al when launched like so on the desktop from e.g. fluxbox's menu:
aterm +sb -e top -d 2
Pressing q to quit top closes the aterm. Completely. :-(
I have not found a solution for it.
With xterm I would use the -hold option to stop xterm from collapsing like so:
xterm -geometry 144x30 -bg black -fg green -hold -e 'ps auxf'
Thereafter I use the window decoration to close xterm, because no other
keyboard inputs are accepted by it.
> Let's say I'm having a problem with packet loss to/from a certain
> internet server. I would run "mtr" which gives an ongoing enhanced
> traceroute display. When it gets to the router that's dropping packets
> I would hit "Q" and mtr quits.
That's how it always worked here.
> Before the update
> =
> I would copy/paste the mtr output into an email, and send it off to
> whomever, with the output showing the packet-loss stats.
Are you sure you were not previously using the -r option to report the output
on the screen and now you don't?
> After the update
>
> As soon as mtr quits, its output gets wiped, and the xterm screen is
> restored to the state it was in before mtr was launched... helpful NOT!
try this:
mtr -c 3 -r 123.456.78.90
> I've discovered that I can suspend it with {CTRL-S}, but I shouldn't
> have to resort to that. Using Google, I found references to
> "man termcap", which stated that this behaviour was controlled by
> entries in /etc/termcap. Despite the fact that I have the termcap man
> page on my system, I do *NOT* have /etc/termcap. Does anyone have a
> sample /etc/termcap (or will ~/.termcap work?) to stop the screen
> restore after a text application quits?
I don't have /etc/termcap here ... and wouldn't know how to use it to be
honest.
--
Regards,
Mick
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