Re: [gentoo-user] I'd really like to stay with you

2006-04-14 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Friday 14 April 2006 02:11 pm, Franta wrote:
> ... but THIS is impossible



> hope I've copied it right ... then goes the REALLY
> upgrade ..
> All of X blocks all and everything of X. That's really amazing. That's
> what I ever wanted Linux to be!!!
> Thank you GGEENNTTOO team !()!

Thank them for what?  Screwing up the ~x86 area?  Hello!  Earth to Franta!  
IT'S BETA SOFTWARE!  NO GUARANTEE!!!  If you don't want problems, then stick 
with -x86.  Honestly, you sound like some politician whining when the first 
rocket failed during the space race.  It's not *supposed* to work.

> It WAS great, but it really isn't for usage. Well, I could say: "THAT'S
> UNUSABLE."

If you want something that's useable, even in the unsupported software area, I 
don't think you'll find any distro that can help you.  I can understand if 
you think that the stable listings are a bit stale.  I'm still waiting for my 
two personal favourite programs to be declared safe (YaKuake and Katapult) 
but I'm not willing to suffer the big massive upgrade headache over it.  Calm 
down.  You're overracting.  Furthermore, of all linux distros I've ever had 
experience with, Gentoo is NOT for "ease-of-use," but rather for the power 
user that knows what he (or she) is doing.  If you can't swim then get out of 
the deep end of the pool.  Go find something safer like Kubuntu or Debian, 
learn your Linux concepts there, then migrate to the more challenging (but, 
IMHO, more rewarding) Gentoo.  That's what I did.  I used Kubuntu and Debian 
for six months until I felt ready for Gentoo (and they built a graphical 
installer - I'm averse to installation manuals that are over thirty pages ; )

No one's (to my knowledge) asking you to use Gentoo.  I don't see why you 
(apparently) feel so scandalized.  Calm down.


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Re: [gentoo-user] I'd really like to stay with you

2006-04-14 Thread Ryan Tandy

Franta wrote:

... but THIS is impossible



All of X blocks all and everything of X. That's really amazing. That's
what I ever wanted Linux to be!!!
Thank you GGEENNTTOO team !()!

It WAS great, but it really isn't for usage. Well, I could say: "THAT'S
UNUSABLE."

Thank's onesmore
Frank
  
Standard procedure for resolving blockages: unmerge the offending 
package, in your case >=xorg-x11-6.9 (`emerge -C >=xorg-x11-6.9`).  
Since that's the only package blocking all those others, unmerging it 
will solve the whole mess.


The Modular Xorg Migration Guide[1] may help you.

HTH

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml
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Re: [gentoo-user] I'd really like to stay with you

2006-04-14 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Franta:
> ... but THIS is impossible

> ...
> hope I've copied it right ... then goes the REALLY
> upgrade ..
> All of X blocks all and everything of X. That's really amazing. That's
> what I ever wanted Linux to be!!!
> Thank you GGEENNTTOO team !()!
>
> It WAS great, but it really isn't for usage. Well, I could say: "THAT'S
> UNUSABLE."
>
> Thank's onesmore
> Frank

So what do you want? Ennio Morricone to play you off into the sunset? 

If you want modular Xorg it stands to reason you will have to remove the 
monolithic version first. If you don't want it then you have no business 
running '~x86'.

Have fun in your new endeavors...

-d
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"...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..."
- Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972


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Re: [gentoo-user] I'd really like to stay with you

2006-04-14 Thread fire-eyes
On Friday 14 April 2006 17:11, Franta wrote:
> ... but THIS is impossible
>
> [blocks B ] sys-apps/coldplug (is blocking sys-fs/udev-089-r2)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
> x11-drivers/xf86-input-elographics-1.0.0.5)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
> x11-proto/xproto-7.0.4)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
> x11-misc/util-macros-1.0.1)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
> x11-proto/inputproto-1.3.2)
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> x11-proto/kbproto-1.0.2)
> [blocks B ] <=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.9 (is blocking
> x11-libs/libX11-1.0.0-r2)
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> x11-proto/xextproto-7.0.2)
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