Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:22:23 +0900, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/5 Jesús Guerrero i92gu...@terra.es: On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:42:22 +0100, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 5 Oct 2009, at 15:18, Jesús Guerrero wrote: I actually find this a little surprising. I might have thought that the devs might have separated the decryption and playback components: one could imagine it being legal to play back a region 0 DVD in some territories, but not to install or operate encryption circumvention software. Yes, I agree, USE flags are a bit fuzzy. Even if legality wasn't a problem, still it's not accurate to use such a name for an use flag that adds support for decryption. It's even funnier when you realize that you don't even need to enable it to play all the dvd's (only encrypted ones). In such cases, the best thing is to fill an enhancement bug and hope for the best. I might do that later if I manager to remember it. Yeah, I'm agreeing about this notion. Particularly with the legality issues, there might be some desire to separate watching unencrypted DVDs from encryption. I suppose if the enhancement bug is filed, a suggested name for the new USE flag is something like dvd-crypto. There was already a bug and it's now closed and fixed. Kaffeine now has a css use flag. css has been chosen because already exists and has exactly that purpose, and besides that, the library that does the work and is pushed as a dependency to play encrypted dvds is called libdvdcss. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287057 -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?
On 5 Oct 2009, at 02:44, Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:53 +0900, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: ... I was getting some Japanese-bought DVDs ... to rebuild kaffeine (or mplayer, etc) Nope. What you have to do is to set up the correct use flags for xine-lib (dvd). I think the css USE flag may also be required, at least by some packages. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:00:46 +0100, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 5 Oct 2009, at 02:44, Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:53 +0900, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: ... I was getting some Japanese-bought DVDs ... to rebuild kaffeine (or mplayer, etc) Nope. What you have to do is to set up the correct use flags for xine-lib (dvd). I think the css USE flag may also be required, at least by some packages. For each package it might be different (which can be confusing) but for xine-lib, it's the dvd use flag which controls this, and trigger the dependency of xine-libs upon libdvdcss. You just need to look into the ebuild to see it: $ grep dvd /var/portage/media-libs/xine-lib/xine-lib-1.1.16.3-r1.ebuild IUSE=-aalib -libcaca -arts esd win32codecs nls +dvd +X directfb +vorbis +alsa dvd? ( =media-libs/libdvdcss-1.2.7 ) -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?
On 5 Oct 2009, at 15:18, Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:00:46 +0100, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 5 Oct 2009, at 02:44, Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:53 +0900, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: ... I was getting some Japanese-bought DVDs ... to rebuild kaffeine (or mplayer, etc) Nope. What you have to do is to set up the correct use flags for xine-lib (dvd). I think the css USE flag may also be required, at least by some packages. For each package it might be different (which can be confusing) but for xine-lib, it's the dvd use flag which controls this, and trigger the dependency of xine-libs upon libdvdcss. You just need to look into the ebuild to see it: $ grep dvd /var/portage/media-libs/xine-lib/xine-lib-1.1.16.3- r1.ebuild IUSE=-aalib -libcaca -arts esd win32codecs nls +dvd +X directfb +vorbis +alsa dvd? ( =media-libs/libdvdcss-1.2.7 ) I didn't mean in any way to debate your statement about xine-lib - just to add that css may be required for some _other_ packages. It transpires that the only packages I seem to have on my systems using the css USE flag are rippers (undvd k3b), so I apologise for my mistake. I actually find this a little surprising. I might have thought that the devs might have separated the decryption and playback components: one could imagine it being legal to play back a region 0 DVD in some territories, but not to install or operate encryption circumvention software. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:42:22 +0100, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 5 Oct 2009, at 15:18, Jesús Guerrero wrote: I actually find this a little surprising. I might have thought that the devs might have separated the decryption and playback components: one could imagine it being legal to play back a region 0 DVD in some territories, but not to install or operate encryption circumvention software. Yes, I agree, USE flags are a bit fuzzy. Even if legality wasn't a problem, still it's not accurate to use such a name for an use flag that adds support for decryption. It's even funnier when you realize that you don't even need to enable it to play all the dvd's (only encrypted ones). In such cases, the best thing is to fill an enhancement bug and hope for the best. I might do that later if I manager to remember it. -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?
I was getting some Japanese-bought DVDs ... to rebuild kaffeine (or mplayer, etc) Nope. What you have to do is to set up the correct use flags for xine-lib (dvd). I think the css USE flag may also be required, at least by some packages. Well, dvd and xine are both in my world file. I tried adding css, but there was nothing to rebuild (only about 8 packages USE css). Maybe the question I should be asking is why libdvdcss wasn't pulled in when I had the dvd USE flag turned on globally (since forever). Regards, daid
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?
2009/10/5 Jesús Guerrero i92gu...@terra.es: On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:42:22 +0100, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 5 Oct 2009, at 15:18, Jesús Guerrero wrote: I actually find this a little surprising. I might have thought that the devs might have separated the decryption and playback components: one could imagine it being legal to play back a region 0 DVD in some territories, but not to install or operate encryption circumvention software. Yes, I agree, USE flags are a bit fuzzy. Even if legality wasn't a problem, still it's not accurate to use such a name for an use flag that adds support for decryption. It's even funnier when you realize that you don't even need to enable it to play all the dvd's (only encrypted ones). In such cases, the best thing is to fill an enhancement bug and hope for the best. I might do that later if I manager to remember it. Yeah, I'm agreeing about this notion. Particularly with the legality issues, there might be some desire to separate watching unencrypted DVDs from encryption. I suppose if the enhancement bug is filed, a suggested name for the new USE flag is something like dvd-crypto. Regards, daid
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:53 +0900, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was getting some Japanese-bought DVDs to play correctly on my laptop, and I found that I after I installed libdvdcss from portage, portage did not think to rebuild kaffeine (or mplayer, etc), but that was necessary to get full viewing functionality. In the first case, I wonder if libdvdcss should be pulled in by the dvd USE flag. Secondly, I think portage ought to be smart enough to know to rebuild programs in such a case. Nope. What you have to do is to set up the correct use flags for xine-lib (dvd). All the dependencies will be pushed, you don't even have to implicitly install libdvdcss. When a given use flag is changed portage will detect and recompile all the required packages with a simple emerge -auDVN world. -- Jesús Guerrero
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?
Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:53 +0900, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was getting some Japanese-bought DVDs to play correctly on my laptop, and I found that I after I installed libdvdcss from portage, portage did not think to rebuild kaffeine (or mplayer, etc), but that was necessary to get full viewing functionality. In the first case, I wonder if libdvdcss should be pulled in by the dvd USE flag. Secondly, I think portage ought to be smart enough to know to rebuild programs in such a case. Nope. What you have to do is to set up the correct use flags for xine-lib (dvd). All the dependencies will be pushed, you don't even have to implicitly install libdvdcss. When a given use flag is changed portage will detect and recompile all the required packages with a simple emerge -auDVN world. I think this is a typo. The command should be emerge -auDvN world. The upper case V would only print the version of portage. That should therefore be a lower case v. I wish I could type better too. LOL After proofing a message a dozen times, I still find a boo boo after hitting the send button. :/ Maybe it is the keyboard? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage should rebuild kaffeine after libdvdcss installed?
On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:19:04 -0500, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Jesús Guerrero wrote: On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:31:53 +0900, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I was getting some Japanese-bought DVDs to play correctly on my laptop, and I found that I after I installed libdvdcss from portage, portage did not think to rebuild kaffeine (or mplayer, etc), but that was necessary to get full viewing functionality. In the first case, I wonder if libdvdcss should be pulled in by the dvd USE flag. Secondly, I think portage ought to be smart enough to know to rebuild programs in such a case. Nope. What you have to do is to set up the correct use flags for xine-lib (dvd). All the dependencies will be pushed, you don't even have to implicitly install libdvdcss. When a given use flag is changed portage will detect and recompile all the required packages with a simple emerge -auDVN world. I think this is a typo. The command should be emerge -auDvN world. The upper case V would only print the version of portage. That should therefore be a lower case v. Well spotted, yes, it's a typo. Thanks for the correction. :) -- Jesús Guerrero
