Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Wols Lists

On 03/06/2024 16:34, Dale wrote:

The way I did my last two rigs is this.  Find the fastest CPU.  Drop
down about 2 models.  That is not the fastest but very close to it but a
LOT cheaper.  Then buy a mobo and memory to go with it.  You get a
system that is likely close to 90% of the fastest you can get but a lot
cheaper.  Nowadays, even if you drop down a lot, it still costs a arm
and a leg and you get a lot less.


:-)

I look at tech as having two pricing models - the champagne model for 
the new stuff, where doubling performance doubles the price. And the 
coke model for older tech, where transport costs dominate, and different 
specs don't differ much in price. If I can get my tech at the "knee", 
where champagne prices become coke prices, I'm happy.


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote:
> On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote:
>> *NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD
>> announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So
>> maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although
>> at the
>> launch, both the new boards and cpus are probably going to be very
>> expensive. Still, most new mid-to-high end boards will now have USB4
>> ports.
>
> My reaction - even if you buy the older version, this announcement
> will push down the "old tech" prices. Don't wait too long though, as a
> lot of stuff could be "end-of-lifed" and sold off cheap, rather than
> kept in production at a lower price point.
>
> Cheers.
> Wol
>
>


It is a delicate balance.  If you buy brand new tech, you pay for it,
BIG time.  If you drop down just a little, it is almost as fast but a
LOT cheaper. 

The way I did my last two rigs is this.  Find the fastest CPU.  Drop
down about 2 models.  That is not the fastest but very close to it but a
LOT cheaper.  Then buy a mobo and memory to go with it.  You get a
system that is likely close to 90% of the fastest you can get but a lot
cheaper.  Nowadays, even if you drop down a lot, it still costs a arm
and a leg and you get a lot less. 

Still a lot of think on.  I just wonder what prices will be like in 2 or
3 weeks.  Still, I do at least want AM5.  That AM4 is tempting tho. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Wols Lists

On 03/06/2024 12:07, MasterP wrote:

*NOTE*: Almost minutes after I wrote this, and before posting it, AMD
announced at Computex that the new gen will be available next month. So
maybe waiting for the new processors could be a good idea. Although at the
launch, both the new boards and cpus are probably going to be very
expensive. Still, most new mid-to-high end boards will now have USB4
ports.


My reaction - even if you buy the older version, this announcement will 
push down the "old tech" prices. Don't wait too long though, as a lot of 
stuff could be "end-of-lifed" and sold off cheap, rather than kept in 
production at a lower price point.


Cheers.
Wol