Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-19 Thread Karl Lindén
2013/4/19 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com:
 Canek Peláez Valdés caneko at gmail.com writes:

 Another question. Can the installation of PulseAudio and Jack
 coexist? Doable or a constant nightmare?

Yes, they sure can coexist. I haven't found it completely optimal
always, but here is some info.

I currently run both PA and JACK side by side, but on different sound
cards. However, I can get PA to send audio into JACK and vice versa by
manually starting JACK through QJackCtl; the PA plugin is not
initialized otherwise. This works fine but it can be a little CPU
hungry if I have many inputs/outputs.

As I mentioned, PA is running on top of JACK. I do not know if the
opposite is as easy (haven't yet tested), but I guess you could just
start JACK with the dummy driver and let the PA plugin do the trick.

Also, make sure PA does not take over the card you want to use with
JACK. Otherwise JACK will complain. It can be disabled through
pavucontrol.

Kind regards,
Karl



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
 Another question. Can the installation of PulseAudio and Jack
 coexist? Doable or a constant nightmare?

There seems to be a a package to allow pulse to utilise jack. However
if you are using jack for the high quality audio benefit then
apparently you have to kill pulseaudio even if it means making a dummy
package on binary distros to fool the system into thinking it is
installed and so not removing lots.

I suggested he use Gentoo but I think he saw it as too much work.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
  I suggested he use Gentoo but I think he saw it as too much work.  
 
 (comment for me?)
 All I use is gentoo or embedded (state machines) on embeddded hardware. My
 target is jack on embedded gentoo, but, I've run into resource limitations,
 so I'm waiting on my new Arm15 dev board in May.

Feel free to remove PA if you don't need it. I really don't see any
scope for Lennart to make all of alsa redundant anytime soon (unlike
udev...)  

 Of course from many threads from a pro audio user called Ralf, Gentoo
 users and so a fraction of Linux users are the only ones lucky enough
 to be able to do that *easily* whilst keeping packages they want,
 especially Gnome ones!

Ralf, Sorry. I should be more careful in what I write but I am in the
middle of a few things.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Removing pulseaudio

2013-04-18 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/18/2013 05:26 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 Michael Mol:
 
 My particular discovery was that if I launched WoW under WINE, and then
 launched a browser, audio in WoW worked fine. If I launched the browser
 first (which resulted in a flash applet being loaded in GMail for the
 purpose of audio notifications for google talk), Flash grabbed the ALSA
 device and no WINE application could get at it. Routing both through
 PulseAudio solved the problem.
 
 Mhm. I have now started my SM and loaded the flash
 http://fun.from.hell.pl/2003-02-18/volare-karaoke.swf. Then i started
 wine playing tcc1, a mod of Might  Magic 6. No problem with the sound.
 
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
 wine-1.5.28
 
 No pulseaudio. ;)

Sounds like they got that problem fixed, then. That's good.




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