Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:32:13 -0700, Joseph wrote: You don't need to change grub.conf to reboot with different options, just press e and edit the options in place. When I try to boot I'm getting an error: VFS: Can not open device hda3 or unknown block (0,0): error -6 You can change GRUB settings from the GRUB menu, before you try to boot the kernel, press e as in my previous post. It seems you are getting into a mess with the systemd switch and trying all sorts of things at random. The old rule of when you find yourself in a hold, stop digging applies here. Stop making changes in the hope of getting things working, when you could be making them worse to the extent that your system will still be broken when you fix the original problem. Go back to the systemd wiki page and follow it carefully, making sure you both understand and complete each step, otherwise I see things getting worse for you. -- Neil Bothwick Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/06/14 09:09, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:32:13 -0700, Joseph wrote: You don't need to change grub.conf to reboot with different options, just press e and edit the options in place. When I try to boot I'm getting an error: VFS: Can not open device hda3 or unknown block (0,0): error -6 You can change GRUB settings from the GRUB menu, before you try to boot the kernel, press e as in my previous post. It seems you are getting into a mess with the systemd switch and trying all sorts of things at random. The old rule of when you find yourself in a hold, stop digging applies here. Stop making changes in the hope of getting things working, when you could be making them worse to the extent that your system will still be broken when you fix the original problem. Go back to the systemd wiki page and follow it carefully, making sure you both understand and complete each step, otherwise I see things getting worse for you. -- Neil Bothwick Consciousness: that annoying time between naps. I copied an old kernel config file from /boot did make oldconfig enable systemd in the kernel put the grub.conf ... init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd and it booted OK but I have no X display, no network :-/ I just realized that systemd it is almost like learning configuring new OS. I have no time for this so I'm back pedaling to udev :-/ -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 05/02/2014 18:32, Joseph wrote: Which program is responsible for mounting USB stick on XFCE4? After enable systemd flag in make.conf USE= the following packages were rebuild: sys-apps/busybox sys-apps/dbus sys-auth/pambase sys-auth/polkit sys-fs/udisks sys-power/upower gnome-base/gvfs But now I have a BIG problem, I can not mount USB stick at all as user (only as root). Eject doesn't work either. fast reply off the top of the head of someone who has never used systemd: Systemd and udev are tightly interwoven. Did you restart udev? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/05/14 18:35, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 05/02/2014 18:32, Joseph wrote: Which program is responsible for mounting USB stick on XFCE4? After enable systemd flag in make.conf USE= the following packages were rebuild: sys-apps/busybox sys-apps/dbus sys-auth/pambase sys-auth/polkit sys-fs/udisks sys-power/upower gnome-base/gvfs But now I have a BIG problem, I can not mount USB stick at all as user (only as root). Eject doesn't work either. fast reply off the top of the head of someone who has never used systemd: Systemd and udev are tightly interwoven. Did you restart udev? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Yes, I restarted the system. I don't have udev installed; systemd is replacing udev isn't it? Before installing systemd I had to unmerge udev. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: Which program is responsible for mounting USB stick on XFCE4? After enable systemd flag in make.conf USE= the following packages were rebuild: sys-apps/busybox sys-apps/dbus sys-auth/pambase sys-auth/polkit sys-fs/udisks sys-power/upower gnome-base/gvfs But now I have a BIG problem, I can not mount USB stick at all as user (only as root). Eject doesn't work either. I don't know the answer to your question, since I don't use Xfce, but inside xfce-base/*, but I only see thunar depending on udisks, and then only with the udev USE flag activated (which is automatic when using any of the desktop profiles, I believe). Without looking at the code of Xfce, I can only guess that Thunar handles the mounting of external devices. Let me ask you a few questions: 1. Before switching to systemd, how did you mounted the stick; it was automatic (it just appeared in Thunar), or you had to do something? 2. When you say that you can mount it only as root, you mean inside a Xfce session as root? 3. The following line is in /etc/pam.d/system-auth? -sessionoptionalpam_systemd.so 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change your init= line in grub-legacy or GRUB2 and reboot. The contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd? 5. If the contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd, could you please show us the output from the following commands when inside your Xfce session (as your normal user): • systemctl --all --full • loginctl (annotate your-session [first column] and your-seat [last column]) • loginctl seat-status your-seat • loginctl session-status your-session • loginctl user-status your-user Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 05/02/2014 19:03, Joseph wrote: On 02/05/14 18:35, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 05/02/2014 18:32, Joseph wrote: Which program is responsible for mounting USB stick on XFCE4? After enable systemd flag in make.conf USE= the following packages were rebuild: sys-apps/busybox sys-apps/dbus sys-auth/pambase sys-auth/polkit sys-fs/udisks sys-power/upower gnome-base/gvfs But now I have a BIG problem, I can not mount USB stick at all as user (only as root). Eject doesn't work either. fast reply off the top of the head of someone who has never used systemd: Systemd and udev are tightly interwoven. Did you restart udev? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com Yes, I restarted the system. I don't have udev installed; systemd is replacing udev isn't it? Before installing systemd I had to unmerge udev. Here's how I understand how things work: There's a body of code called udev which when runs performs a service called udev. There's also a body of code called systemd which when it runs is PID 1. And there's a project called systemd which does all manner of PID 1 things and controls early startup amongst other things. There used to be a project called udev which has been folded into the systemd project. Both bodies of code are these days found in a tarball called systemd from the systemd project which is why you download systemd sources when installing the Gentoo udev package. However, systemd doesn't just magically do what udev does out of thin air. udev is still a functional running service and must be enabled in systemd for it to run. Confused yet? English is a hugely overloaded language. I'm thinking you need systemd with the udev USE flag set. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/05/14 11:46, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: Which program is responsible for mounting USB stick on XFCE4? After enable systemd flag in make.conf USE= the following packages were rebuild: sys-apps/busybox sys-apps/dbus sys-auth/pambase sys-auth/polkit sys-fs/udisks sys-power/upower gnome-base/gvfs But now I have a BIG problem, I can not mount USB stick at all as user (only as root). Eject doesn't work either. I don't know the answer to your question, since I don't use Xfce, but inside xfce-base/*, but I only see thunar depending on udisks, and then only with the udev USE flag activated (which is automatic when using any of the desktop profiles, I believe). Without looking at the code of Xfce, I can only guess that Thunar handles the mounting of external devices. Let me ask you a few questions: 1. Before switching to systemd, how did you mounted the stick; it was automatic (it just appeared in Thunar), or you had to do something? When I insert the USB stick, an icon automatically appears on a desktop so I right click on it an mount it. But after doing these changes it keep telling me I'm Not authorized to perform the operation (mount it or eject the USB). 2. When you say that you can mount it only as root, you mean inside a Xfce session as root? To mount the USB I have to login as root, from command line. 3. The following line is in /etc/pam.d/system-auth? -sessionoptionalpam_systemd.so Yes, I have this line in in /etc/pam.d/system-auth 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change your init= line in grub-legacy or GRUB2 and reboot. The contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd? I only have this: cat /proc/1/comm init 5. If the contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd, could you please show us the output from the following commands when inside your Xfce session (as your normal user): • systemctl --all --full • loginctl (annotate your-session [first column] and your-seat [last column]) • loginctl seat-status your-seat • loginctl session-status your-session • loginctl user-status your-user Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México systemctl --all --full Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. loginctl Failed to issue method call: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/05/14 20:06, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 05/02/2014 19:03, Joseph wrote:
On 02/05/14 18:35, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On 05/02/2014 18:32, Joseph wrote:
Which program is responsible for mounting USB stick on XFCE4?
After enable systemd flag in make.conf USE=
the following packages were rebuild:
sys-apps/busybox
sys-apps/dbus
sys-auth/pambase
sys-auth/polkit
sys-fs/udisks
sys-power/upower
gnome-base/gvfs
But now I have a BIG problem, I can not mount USB stick at all as user
(only as root).
Eject doesn't work either.
fast reply off the top of the head of someone who has never used systemd:
Systemd and udev are tightly interwoven. Did you restart udev?
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Yes, I restarted the system. I don't have udev installed; systemd is
replacing udev isn't it?
Before installing systemd I had to unmerge udev.
Here's how I understand how things work:
There's a body of code called udev which when runs performs a service
called udev.
There's also a body of code called systemd which when it runs is PID 1.
And there's a project called systemd which does all manner of PID 1
things and controls early startup amongst other things. There used to be
a project called udev which has been folded into the systemd project.
Both bodies of code are these days found in a tarball called systemd
from the systemd project which is why you download systemd sources when
installing the Gentoo udev package.
However, systemd doesn't just magically do what udev does out of thin
air. udev is still a functional running service and must be enabled in
systemd for it to run.
Confused yet? English is a hugely overloaded language.
I'm thinking you need systemd with the udev USE flag set.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
If I'm not mistaken my systemd is installed with gudev flag.
sys-apps/systemd-208-r2:0/1 USE=filecaps firmware-loader gudev introspection kmod pam policykit tcpd -acl -audit -cryptsetup -doc -gcrypt -http -lzma -python
-qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr ABI_X86=(64) (-32) (-x32) PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 0 kB
--
Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 05/02/2014 20:42, Joseph wrote:
I'm thinking you need systemd with the udev USE flag set.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
If I'm not mistaken my systemd is installed with gudev flag.
sys-apps/systemd-208-r2:0/1 USE=filecaps firmware-loader gudev
introspection kmod pam policykit tcpd -acl -audit -cryptsetup -doc
-gcrypt -http -lzma -python -qrcode (-selinux) {-test} -vanilla -xattr
ABI_X86=(64) (-32) (-x32) PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 0 kB
I'm all out of ideas. I don't use systemd myself.
--
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: [ humongous snip ] 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change your init= line in grub-legacy or GRUB2 and reboot. The contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd? I only have this: cat /proc/1/comm init [ snip ] systemctl --all --full Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. loginctl Failed to issue method call: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Joseph, you are not running systemd. You have systemd *installed*, but you are still *running* OpenRC. Therefore, your system is obviously going to fail, since at least some parts of it believe you are running systemd when you are not. If you use GRUB, you need to change its config file and add the following to your kernel command line: init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd If you are using GRUB2, change /etc/default/grub and modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX so it has init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. Then run grub2-mkconfig again. Beware, systemd requires some kernel config options set or it will not work. For systemd 208, these are: AUTOFS4_FS BLK_DEV_BSG CGROUPS DEVTMPFS DMIID EPOLL FANOTIFY FHANDLE INOTIFY_USER IPV6 NET PROC_FS SECCOMP SIGNALFD SYSFS TIMERFD Also, the following kernel config options should *NOT* be set: IDE SYSFS_DEPRECATED SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 GRKERNSEC_PROC Lastly, if you have /usr in a different partition from /, you *need* an initramfs (this is now true also for OpenRC). Please check the instructions set in: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd To finish, let me remark that systemd never had problems in your system. The problem was that you were not running systemd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/05/14 13:06, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: [ humongous snip ] 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change your init= line in grub-legacy or GRUB2 and reboot. The contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd? I only have this: cat /proc/1/comm init [ snip ] systemctl --all --full Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. loginctl Failed to issue method call: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Joseph, you are not running systemd. You have systemd *installed*, but you are still *running* OpenRC. Therefore, your system is obviously going to fail, since at least some parts of it believe you are running systemd when you are not. If you use GRUB, you need to change its config file and add the following to your kernel command line: init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd If you are using GRUB2, change /etc/default/grub and modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX so it has init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. Then run grub2-mkconfig again. Beware, systemd requires some kernel config options set or it will not work. For systemd 208, these are: AUTOFS4_FS BLK_DEV_BSG CGROUPS DEVTMPFS DMIID EPOLL FANOTIFY FHANDLE INOTIFY_USER IPV6 NET PROC_FS SECCOMP SIGNALFD SYSFS TIMERFD Also, the following kernel config options should *NOT* be set: IDE SYSFS_DEPRECATED SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 GRKERNSEC_PROC Lastly, if you have /usr in a different partition from /, you *need* an initramfs (this is now true also for OpenRC). Please check the instructions set in: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd To finish, let me remark that systemd never had problems in your system. The problem was that you were not running systemd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Thank you for correction. You are correct I would need to switch to new systemd. I think for now I'll go back to udev as I'm afraid something might not work after switching :-/ -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
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Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/14 13:06, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: [ humongous snip ] 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change your init= line in grub-legacy or GRUB2 and reboot. The contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd? I only have this: cat /proc/1/comm init [ snip ] systemctl --all --full Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. loginctl Failed to issue method call: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Joseph, you are not running systemd. You have systemd *installed*, but you are still *running* OpenRC. Therefore, your system is obviously going to fail, since at least some parts of it believe you are running systemd when you are not. If you use GRUB, you need to change its config file and add the following to your kernel command line: init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd If you are using GRUB2, change /etc/default/grub and modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX so it has init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. Then run grub2-mkconfig again. Beware, systemd requires some kernel config options set or it will not work. For systemd 208, these are: AUTOFS4_FS BLK_DEV_BSG CGROUPS DEVTMPFS DMIID EPOLL FANOTIFY FHANDLE INOTIFY_USER IPV6 NET PROC_FS SECCOMP SIGNALFD SYSFS TIMERFD Also, the following kernel config options should *NOT* be set: IDE SYSFS_DEPRECATED SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 GRKERNSEC_PROC Lastly, if you have /usr in a different partition from /, you *need* an initramfs (this is now true also for OpenRC). Please check the instructions set in: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd To finish, let me remark that systemd never had problems in your system. The problem was that you were not running systemd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Thank you for correction. You are correct I would need to switch to new systemd. I think for now I'll go back to udev as I'm afraid something might not work after switching :-/ Why don't you give it a try? You are almost there. When booting, edit the grub entry and add init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. If it works, great; otherwise, you reboot and get back to where you were. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/05/14 14:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/14 13:06, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: [ humongous snip ] 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change your init= line in grub-legacy or GRUB2 and reboot. The contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd? I only have this: cat /proc/1/comm init [ snip ] systemctl --all --full Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. loginctl Failed to issue method call: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Joseph, you are not running systemd. You have systemd *installed*, but you are still *running* OpenRC. Therefore, your system is obviously going to fail, since at least some parts of it believe you are running systemd when you are not. If you use GRUB, you need to change its config file and add the following to your kernel command line: init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd If you are using GRUB2, change /etc/default/grub and modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX so it has init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. Then run grub2-mkconfig again. Beware, systemd requires some kernel config options set or it will not work. For systemd 208, these are: AUTOFS4_FS BLK_DEV_BSG CGROUPS DEVTMPFS DMIID EPOLL FANOTIFY FHANDLE INOTIFY_USER IPV6 NET PROC_FS SECCOMP SIGNALFD SYSFS TIMERFD Also, the following kernel config options should *NOT* be set: IDE SYSFS_DEPRECATED SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 GRKERNSEC_PROC Lastly, if you have /usr in a different partition from /, you *need* an initramfs (this is now true also for OpenRC). Please check the instructions set in: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd To finish, let me remark that systemd never had problems in your system. The problem was that you were not running systemd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Thank you for correction. You are correct I would need to switch to new systemd. I think for now I'll go back to udev as I'm afraid something might not work after switching :-/ Why don't you give it a try? You are almost there. When booting, edit the grub entry and add init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. If it works, great; otherwise, you reboot and get back to where you were. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México I'll give it a try as going back to udev is not easy either :-/ -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/05/14 14:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/14 13:06, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: [ humongous snip ] 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change your init= line in grub-legacy or GRUB2 and reboot. The contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd? I only have this: cat /proc/1/comm init [ snip ] systemctl --all --full Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. loginctl Failed to issue method call: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Joseph, you are not running systemd. You have systemd *installed*, but you are still *running* OpenRC. Therefore, your system is obviously going to fail, since at least some parts of it believe you are running systemd when you are not. If you use GRUB, you need to change its config file and add the following to your kernel command line: init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd If you are using GRUB2, change /etc/default/grub and modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX so it has init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. Then run grub2-mkconfig again. Beware, systemd requires some kernel config options set or it will not work. For systemd 208, these are: AUTOFS4_FS BLK_DEV_BSG CGROUPS DEVTMPFS DMIID EPOLL FANOTIFY FHANDLE INOTIFY_USER IPV6 NET PROC_FS SECCOMP SIGNALFD SYSFS TIMERFD Also, the following kernel config options should *NOT* be set: IDE SYSFS_DEPRECATED SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 GRKERNSEC_PROC Lastly, if you have /usr in a different partition from /, you *need* an initramfs (this is now true also for OpenRC). Please check the instructions set in: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd To finish, let me remark that systemd never had problems in your system. The problem was that you were not running systemd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Thank you for correction. You are correct I would need to switch to new systemd. I think for now I'll go back to udev as I'm afraid something might not work after switching :-/ Why don't you give it a try? You are almost there. When booting, edit the grub entry and add init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. If it works, great; otherwise, you reboot and get back to where you were. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México I've tried to switch my backup system to systemd by adding line init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd to grub donfig and as I suspected the system did not boot. I got a kernel paanic. can not open root device hda3 or unknown block (0,0): error -6 -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/14 14:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/05/14 13:06, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: [ humongous snip ] 4. Using systemd is more than just emerging it; you need to change your init= line in grub-legacy or GRUB2 and reboot. The contents of /proc/1/comm is systemd? I only have this: cat /proc/1/comm init [ snip ] systemctl --all --full Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. loginctl Failed to issue method call: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 Joseph, you are not running systemd. You have systemd *installed*, but you are still *running* OpenRC. Therefore, your system is obviously going to fail, since at least some parts of it believe you are running systemd when you are not. If you use GRUB, you need to change its config file and add the following to your kernel command line: init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd If you are using GRUB2, change /etc/default/grub and modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX so it has init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. Then run grub2-mkconfig again. Beware, systemd requires some kernel config options set or it will not work. For systemd 208, these are: AUTOFS4_FS BLK_DEV_BSG CGROUPS DEVTMPFS DMIID EPOLL FANOTIFY FHANDLE INOTIFY_USER IPV6 NET PROC_FS SECCOMP SIGNALFD SYSFS TIMERFD Also, the following kernel config options should *NOT* be set: IDE SYSFS_DEPRECATED SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 GRKERNSEC_PROC Lastly, if you have /usr in a different partition from /, you *need* an initramfs (this is now true also for OpenRC). Please check the instructions set in: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd To finish, let me remark that systemd never had problems in your system. The problem was that you were not running systemd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Thank you for correction. You are correct I would need to switch to new systemd. I think for now I'll go back to udev as I'm afraid something might not work after switching :-/ Why don't you give it a try? You are almost there. When booting, edit the grub entry and add init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. If it works, great; otherwise, you reboot and get back to where you were. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México I've tried to switch my backup system to systemd by adding line init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd to grub donfig and as I suspected the system did not boot. I got a kernel paanic. can not open root device hda3 or unknown block (0,0): error -6 It probably could be fixed, but it will take time and info about your system (partition arrangement, if you use or not an initramfs, how do you created it, etc.) Perhaps you would prefer to get back to OpenRC+udev. Just be aware that, if you had installed systemd, it was because something requires it. If you don't use systemd, you will have degraded functionality, since more and more things require systemd or parts of it (specifically logind). This not only applies to GNOME 3, but also to Xfce (which uses a lot of GNOME/Gtk+/glib infrastructure). KDE is also analyzing how to better use systemd provided technologies. You can try to set USE=-systemd consolekit and do a emerge -uDNv world. That will bring back much (but not all) of the functionality; just be aware that ConsoleKit is unmaintained and it will eventually bitrot. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/05/14 15:01, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: [snip] If you are using GRUB2, change /etc/default/grub and modify GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX so it has init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. Then run grub2-mkconfig again. Beware, systemd requires some kernel config options set or it will not work. For systemd 208, these are: AUTOFS4_FS BLK_DEV_BSG CGROUPS DEVTMPFS DMIID EPOLL FANOTIFY FHANDLE INOTIFY_USER IPV6 NET PROC_FS SECCOMP SIGNALFD SYSFS TIMERFD Also, the following kernel config options should *NOT* be set: IDE SYSFS_DEPRECATED SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 GRKERNSEC_PROC Lastly, if you have /usr in a different partition from /, you *need* an initramfs (this is now true also for OpenRC). Please check the instructions set in: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd To finish, let me remark that systemd never had problems in your system. The problem was that you were not running systemd. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México Thank you for correction. You are correct I would need to switch to new systemd. I think for now I'll go back to udev as I'm afraid something might not work after switching :-/ Why don't you give it a try? You are almost there. When booting, edit the grub entry and add init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd. If it works, great; otherwise, you reboot and get back to where you were. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México I've tried to switch my backup system to systemd by adding line init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd to grub donfig and as I suspected the system did not boot. I got a kernel paanic. can not open root device hda3 or unknown block (0,0): error -6 It probably could be fixed, but it will take time and info about your system (partition arrangement, if you use or not an initramfs, how do you created it, etc.) Perhaps you would prefer to get back to OpenRC+udev. Just be aware that, if you had installed systemd, it was because something requires it. If you don't use systemd, you will have degraded functionality, since more and more things require systemd or parts of it (specifically logind). This not only applies to GNOME 3, but also to Xfce (which uses a lot of GNOME/Gtk+/glib infrastructure). KDE is also analyzing how to better use systemd provided technologies. You can try to set USE=-systemd consolekit and do a emerge -uDNv world. That will bring back much (but not all) of the functionality; just be aware that ConsoleKit is unmaintained and it will eventually bitrot. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México I have to create new boot strap CD (as the one I have have old kernel) and get to they system first to change grub.conf. Will get back to you. -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On Wed, Feb 05 2014, Joseph wrote: Thank you for correction. You are correct I would need to switch to new systemd. I think for now I'll go back to udev as I'm afraid something might not work after switching :-/ Two comments. 1. Canek is *very* helpful on systemd issues. 2. If you have /usr on the same filesystem as /, then switching to systemd is really not hard A. Set some kernel options (see the gentoo wiki). B. Set some use flags. i. At least -consolekit and systemd ii. This might be automatic if you use a systemd subprofile For example I use default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome/systemd C. Do a world update. Once I merged / and /usr and did the above, systemd more or less worked right away. I did tweak it some later, but was able to read/send mail and use gnucash for my checking account on day 1. Note that I picked a conversion day when I knew canek would be available. If /usr is split from /, I believe Canek can guide you through. However, I have no experience with that (initramfs) so can't give a testimonial. In any event the wiki https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd is helpful. For one thing it would have pointed out the need to tell the kernel to use systemd as init (the wiki has both grub and grub invocations). Good luck! allan
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:31:58 -0700, Joseph wrote: I have to create new boot strap CD (as the one I have have old kernel) and get to they system first to change grub.conf. You don't need to change grub.conf to reboot with different options, just press e and edit the options in place. -- Neil Bothwick An expert is nothing more than an ordinary person away from home. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/06/14 00:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:31:58 -0700, Joseph wrote: I have to create new boot strap CD (as the one I have have old kernel) and get to they system first to change grub.conf. You don't need to change grub.conf to reboot with different options, just press e and edit the options in place. -- Neil Bothwick An expert is nothing more than an ordinary person away from home. When I try to boot I'm getting an error: VFS: Can not open device hda3 or unknown block (0,0): error -6 Please append correct root= boot option: here the available options: Kerel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(O,0) -- Joseph
Re: [gentoo-user] can not mount USB stick as user
On 02/05/14 17:32, Joseph wrote: On 02/06/14 00:06, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:31:58 -0700, Joseph wrote: I have to create new boot strap CD (as the one I have have old kernel) and get to they system first to change grub.conf. You don't need to change grub.conf to reboot with different options, just press e and edit the options in place. -- Neil Bothwick An expert is nothing more than an ordinary person away from home. When I try to boot I'm getting an error: VFS: Can not open device hda3 or unknown block (0,0): error -6 Please append correct root= boot option: here the available options: Kerel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(O,0) Im my kernel-3.10.17 under File System I have enabled: - Second extended fs support - Ext3 journalling file system support - Ext3 extended attributes So I don't understand the error message. What else should I check in the kernel? -- Joseph
