Re: [gentoo-user] wireless software config problem
On Thu, Sep 07 2017, allan gottlieb wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07 2017, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: >>> >>> My system runs gnome3/systemd. I use NetworkManager, which is mostly >>> working fine. >>> >>> At work the desired network is named "nyu". The sysadmins say I need to >>> change at least one security parameter. When I open the gui it shows >>> the network configuration parameters (by clicking the gear) and lets me >>> select different values. However the "Apply" button never becomes >>> active so I can only "Cancel". >>> >>> If I try to select the "nyu" network it asks for the password, which I >>> know and enter. I then click the appropriate button (something like >>> "apply" or "ok"). As expected the window goes away but I am not >>> connected and the window reappears. >>> >>> A "tip" from the sys admins at work is to somehow tell my system to >>> forget all it knows about the network "nyu", but neither I nor they know >>> how to do it (they don't "fully support" linux). >> >> I would try this: >> >> 1. Select the system menu (top right corner) >> 2. Select settings (lower left corner of the menu) >> 3. Select Network >> 4. Click the gears icon for the wireless network >> 5. Select the "Reset" option (last option available) >> 6. Click the "Forget" button >> >> This should allow you to start from the beginning. You should not need to >> muck around around with permissions, it should Just Work™. >> >> Regards. >> -- >> Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés > > Thank you canek! > > It is a little embarrassing since I got to the same screen as you see in > step 5 via a different path but didn't think of "reset". Instead I > tried "security" and "identity", made my changes but could not "apply" > them. I am back at nyu on tuesday and will definitely try your > suggestion. > > Thank you again. > allan Worked Perfectly! thanks again, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] wireless software config problem
On Thu, Sep 07 2017, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: >> >> My system runs gnome3/systemd. I use NetworkManager, which is mostly >> working fine. >> >> At work the desired network is named "nyu". The sysadmins say I need to >> change at least one security parameter. When I open the gui it shows >> the network configuration parameters (by clicking the gear) and lets me >> select different values. However the "Apply" button never becomes >> active so I can only "Cancel". >> >> If I try to select the "nyu" network it asks for the password, which I >> know and enter. I then click the appropriate button (something like >> "apply" or "ok"). As expected the window goes away but I am not >> connected and the window reappears. >> >> A "tip" from the sys admins at work is to somehow tell my system to >> forget all it knows about the network "nyu", but neither I nor they know >> how to do it (they don't "fully support" linux). > > I would try this: > > 1. Select the system menu (top right corner) > 2. Select settings (lower left corner of the menu) > 3. Select Network > 4. Click the gears icon for the wireless network > 5. Select the "Reset" option (last option available) > 6. Click the "Forget" button > > This should allow you to start from the beginning. You should not need to > muck around around with permissions, it should Just Work™. > > Regards. > -- > Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés Thank you canek! It is a little embarrassing since I got to the same screen as you see in step 5 via a different path but didn't think of "reset". Instead I tried "security" and "identity", made my changes but could not "apply" them. I am back at nyu on tuesday and will definitely try your suggestion. Thank you again. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] wireless software config problem
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: > > My system runs gnome3/systemd. I use NetworkManager, which is mostly > working fine. > > At work the desired network is named "nyu". The sysadmins say I need to > change at least one security parameter. When I open the gui it shows > the network configuration parameters (by clicking the gear) and lets me > select different values. However the "Apply" button never becomes > active so I can only "Cancel". > > If I try to select the "nyu" network it asks for the password, which I > know and enter. I then click the appropriate button (something like > "apply" or "ok"). As expected the window goes away but I am not > connected and the window reappears. > > A "tip" from the sys admins at work is to somehow tell my system to > forget all it knows about the network "nyu", but neither I nor they know > how to do it (they don't "fully support" linux). I would try this: 1. Select the system menu (top right corner) 2. Select settings (lower left corner of the menu) 3. Select Network 4. Click the gears icon for the wireless network 5. Select the "Reset" option (last option available) 6. Click the "Forget" button This should allow you to start from the beginning. You should not need to muck around around with permissions, it should Just Work™. Regards. -- Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de Carrera Asociado C Departamento de Matemáticas Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] wireless software config problem
On Wed, Sep 06 2017, Mick wrote: > On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 22:29:29 BST allan gottlieb wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 06 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> > On 06/09/2017 18:31, allan gottlieb wrote: >> >> My system runs gnome3/systemd. I use NetworkManager, which is mostly >> >> working fine. >> >> >> >> At work the desired network is named "nyu". The sysadmins say I need to >> >> change at least one security parameter. When I open the gui it shows >> >> the network configuration parameters (by clicking the gear) and lets me >> >> select different values. However the "Apply" button never becomes >> >> active so I can only "Cancel". >> >> >> >> If I try to select the "nyu" network it asks for the password, which I >> >> know and enter. I then click the appropriate button (something like >> >> "apply" or "ok"). As expected the window goes away but I am not >> >> connected and the window reappears. >> >> >> >> A "tip" from the sys admins at work is to somehow tell my system to >> >> forget all it knows about the network "nyu", but neither I nor they know >> >> how to do it (they don't "fully support" linux). >> >> >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> > >> > Your sysadmins are talking shit. What they need to do is tell you what >> > the security settings are for that SSID. If it's a corporate firm it's >> > likely something along the lines of "Protected EAP (PEAP)" and they must >> > tell you what it requires. Or, find a working Windows machine and check >> > it's wireless network property for that SSID. Usually, one can figure it >> > out relatively easily. >> > >> > That your sysadmins don't know this is a rather brutal indictement of >> > your sysadmins... >> > >> > In connman one often has delete and re-create connections as it often >> > happens there isn't an Edit button in connman applets! But not in >> > NetworkManager: >> > right click -> Config -> Edit -> Save >> > always does the trick if you click the right buttons in the Edit step >> >> I must not have been clear. They told me about peap etc. >> I can't make network manager change to the desired configuration. >> When I change the settings, the gui doesn't let me apply the change. >> >> allan > > This sounds like an OS user permissions problem. Do you have sys-auth/polkit > installed and is USE="policykit" enabled for networkmanager? > > Also have a read here in case you need to create this rule: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NetworkManager#Fixing_nm-applet_insufficient_privileges I run gentoo stable and networkmanager-1.4.4-r1 doesn't have a policykit use flag (version ~1.8.0 does have a that use flag). I will try changing the settings tomorrow as root (the network in question is at work) thanks allan
Re: [gentoo-user] wireless software config problem
On Wednesday, 6 September 2017 22:29:29 BST allan gottlieb wrote: > On Wed, Sep 06 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 06/09/2017 18:31, allan gottlieb wrote: > >> My system runs gnome3/systemd. I use NetworkManager, which is mostly > >> working fine. > >> > >> At work the desired network is named "nyu". The sysadmins say I need to > >> change at least one security parameter. When I open the gui it shows > >> the network configuration parameters (by clicking the gear) and lets me > >> select different values. However the "Apply" button never becomes > >> active so I can only "Cancel". > >> > >> If I try to select the "nyu" network it asks for the password, which I > >> know and enter. I then click the appropriate button (something like > >> "apply" or "ok"). As expected the window goes away but I am not > >> connected and the window reappears. > >> > >> A "tip" from the sys admins at work is to somehow tell my system to > >> forget all it knows about the network "nyu", but neither I nor they know > >> how to do it (they don't "fully support" linux). > >> > >> Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Your sysadmins are talking shit. What they need to do is tell you what > > the security settings are for that SSID. If it's a corporate firm it's > > likely something along the lines of "Protected EAP (PEAP)" and they must > > tell you what it requires. Or, find a working Windows machine and check > > it's wireless network property for that SSID. Usually, one can figure it > > out relatively easily. > > > > That your sysadmins don't know this is a rather brutal indictement of > > your sysadmins... > > > > In connman one often has delete and re-create connections as it often > > happens there isn't an Edit button in connman applets! But not in > > NetworkManager: > > right click -> Config -> Edit -> Save > > always does the trick if you click the right buttons in the Edit step > > I must not have been clear. They told me about peap etc. > I can't make network manager change to the desired configuration. > When I change the settings, the gui doesn't let me apply the change. > > allan This sounds like an OS user permissions problem. Do you have sys-auth/polkit installed and is USE="policykit" enabled for networkmanager? Also have a read here in case you need to create this rule: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NetworkManager#Fixing_nm-applet_insufficient_privileges -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] wireless software config problem
On Wed, Sep 06 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 06/09/2017 18:31, allan gottlieb wrote: >> My system runs gnome3/systemd. I use NetworkManager, which is mostly >> working fine. >> >> At work the desired network is named "nyu". The sysadmins say I need to >> change at least one security parameter. When I open the gui it shows >> the network configuration parameters (by clicking the gear) and lets me >> select different values. However the "Apply" button never becomes >> active so I can only "Cancel". >> >> If I try to select the "nyu" network it asks for the password, which I >> know and enter. I then click the appropriate button (something like >> "apply" or "ok"). As expected the window goes away but I am not >> connected and the window reappears. >> >> A "tip" from the sys admins at work is to somehow tell my system to >> forget all it knows about the network "nyu", but neither I nor they know >> how to do it (they don't "fully support" linux). >> >> Any help would be appreciated. > > > Your sysadmins are talking shit. What they need to do is tell you what > the security settings are for that SSID. If it's a corporate firm it's > likely something along the lines of "Protected EAP (PEAP)" and they must > tell you what it requires. Or, find a working Windows machine and check > it's wireless network property for that SSID. Usually, one can figure it > out relatively easily. > > That your sysadmins don't know this is a rather brutal indictement of > your sysadmins... > > In connman one often has delete and re-create connections as it often > happens there isn't an Edit button in connman applets! But not in > NetworkManager: > right click -> Config -> Edit -> Save > always does the trick if you click the right buttons in the Edit step I must not have been clear. They told me about peap etc. I can't make network manager change to the desired configuration. When I change the settings, the gui doesn't let me apply the change. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] wireless software config problem
On 06/09/2017 18:31, allan gottlieb wrote: > My system runs gnome3/systemd. I use NetworkManager, which is mostly > working fine. > > At work the desired network is named "nyu". The sysadmins say I need to > change at least one security parameter. When I open the gui it shows > the network configuration parameters (by clicking the gear) and lets me > select different values. However the "Apply" button never becomes > active so I can only "Cancel". > > If I try to select the "nyu" network it asks for the password, which I > know and enter. I then click the appropriate button (something like > "apply" or "ok"). As expected the window goes away but I am not > connected and the window reappears. > > A "tip" from the sys admins at work is to somehow tell my system to > forget all it knows about the network "nyu", but neither I nor they know > how to do it (they don't "fully support" linux). > > Any help would be appreciated. Your sysadmins are talking shit. What they need to do is tell you what the security settings are for that SSID. If it's a corporate firm it's likely something along the lines of "Protected EAP (PEAP)" and they must tell you what it requires. Or, find a working Windows machine and check it's wireless network property for that SSID. Usually, one can figure it out relatively easily. That your sysadmins don't know this is a rather brutal indictement of your sysadmins... In connman one often has delete and re-create connections as it often happens there isn't an Edit button in connman applets! But not in NetworkManager: right click -> Config -> Edit -> Save always does the trick if you click the right buttons in the Edit step -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
