[geo] Geoengineering Interview on ABC Science Show

2022-10-28 Thread robert 
The Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) Science Show today broadcast
an interview with me titled Geoengineering Now Urgent
  (9 minutes), and further comments from my interview at
the start of the program (2 minutes). The Science Show has been presented
weekly by Robin Williams on ABC Radio National for 47 years.  

 

This is timely as COP27 prepares to convene next week.  I hope the
geoengineering analysis here can be discussed at COP.

 

Today's program (one hour) is titled Storms changing our coasts, plastic in
the ocean, and a call for geoengineering. 

Link is
https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/scienceshow/the-science-show/1
4091532.

 

Here are links to the individual segments.

 

ABC Science Show, Broadcast 29 October 2022
 


 
 *   UKRI - funding research in the UK 8 minutes
 


 
 *   Geoengineering now urgent 9 minutes
 


 
 *   Cambridge Zero 14 minutes
 


 
 *   Plastic -
it has been accumulating in our oceans since the 1950s 7 minutes
 


 
 *   Storms are changing our coastlines 9
minutes


 

Here is a transcript of my comments used as the program introduction.

 

"The reality is that climate politics has been pitched as a war between
emission reduction and the fossil fuel industry, and the view is that
geoengineering is on the side of the fossil fuel industries. So what it has
meant is that within the climate science community there is this moral
hazard concept, that people say if you take action to geoengineer the
climate then you are just failing to address the real issue, which is our
emissions.  But let me explain. Our annual emissions are about 15 billion
tonnes of carbon or 50 billion tonnes of CO2 [equivalent], but the historic
emissions are more like 670 billion tonnes of carbon, pushing a trillion
tonnes.  So our annual emissions only worsen the problem, they add up, it is
cumulative.  This concept of committed warming from past emissions is really
central. We have to see that this 670 billion tonnes of CO2 is what is
causing the warming, its what's causing the risk of sea level rise, and
until we work out technologies that will remove this vast quantity of past
emissions, then cutting our new emissions is really too small, too slow, to
really make a difference.  It will take us years, decades potentially, to
work out how to remove all that committed warming, but we have to do it.
The only thing that will stop us going over the edge - there is a great
paper from a few years ago by Will Steffen and colleagues from the ANU
called Trajectories of the Earth System in the Anthropocene, and it points
out that we face the risk of going over a threshold into a hothouse - the
only thing that will stop us from going over that threshold is brightening
the planet through geoengineering."  [Note - I don't suggest Steffen et al
support geoengineering, only that in my opinion brightening the planet is
the only action that can prevent a hothouse phase shift.]

 

My earlier comments that Robin Williams refers to in the interview are at
this video - Why Increasing Albedo is More Urgent than Cutting Emissions
  (16 minutes)  

 

Robert Tulip

Planetary Restoration Action Group

https://planetaryrestoration.net/

 

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[geo] Re: [CDR] Posts to list - input welcome

2022-10-28 Thread Andrew Lockley 
Yes we will be doing the weekly round up again soon

On Fri, 28 Oct 2022, 20:23 Daniel Nepstad, 
wrote:

> Thanks, Andrew,
>
> I think it would be really helpful to do a weekly summary of new
> reports/publications/articles etc. to diminish the daily CDR email load.
>
> My best,
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Oct 28, 2022, at 6:56 PM, Andrew Lockley 
> wrote:
>
> Just an update regarding my posts to the list. After a hiatus, I've got an
> assistant again to help me with managing twitter @geoengineering1 and posts
> to CDR & geoengineering lists. (Fundraising has therefore now reopened to
> help offset the costs - both for for regular donations
> http://patreon.com/geoengineering and one time donations,
> https://gofund.me/da586daa )
>
> It's now a good time to ask people what they want. Presently we post the
> following - very comprehensive on twitter and much more selective on the
> lists.
> - Reports from think tanks
> - Policy announcements, esp. large economies
> - Scientific papers
> - Occasional high quality news articles
> - Blogs from prominent commentators, especially those with new ideas
> - Some jobs (usually more senior ones)
> We haven't done summary emails (eg for this week's videos) for a while,
> but we'll hopefully start these again soon
>
> Is this what you are looking for? We can potentially throttle any of the
> above.
>
> Finally, the format is up for debate. We normally do one story per email,
> so you can open what you want and reply selectively. Round up emails are
> more manageable for readers, but don't allow threaded replies. We normally
> send in plain text. This makes it easy to read, minimises your data, makes
> the content searchable and allows you to click through to read stories on
> the original source.
>
> Any of these things can be changed. FYI CDR isn't my list (it's Greg's),
> so I have no say what and who goes on. If the work I do isn't useful or
> welcome then let me know so I can change or stop it. I'm only doing it to
> help. It takes loads of my time and a not insignificant amount of my money
> to do this, so if it's not helpful then I need to know.
>
> Andrew
>
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RE: [geo] Posts to list - input welcome

2022-10-28 Thread david.sevier 
You do good work. Continue.

 

From: geoengineering@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Ronal Larson
Sent: 28 October 2022 18:00
To: Andrew Lockley 
Cc: carbondioxideremo...@googlegroups.com 
 
; Geoengineering 

Subject: Re: [geo] Posts to list - input welcome

 

I find it helpful





On Oct 28, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Andrew Lockley mailto:andrew.lock...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Just an update regarding my posts to the list. After a hiatus, I've got an 
assistant again to help me with managing twitter @geoengineering1 and posts to 
CDR & geoengineering lists. (Fundraising has therefore now reopened to help 
offset the costs - both for for regular donations 
http://patreon.com/geoengineering and one time donations, 
https://gofund.me/da586daa ) 

 

It's now a good time to ask people what they want. Presently we post the 
following - very comprehensive on twitter and much more selective on the lists. 

- Reports from think tanks 

- Policy announcements, esp. large economies 

- Scientific papers 

- Occasional high quality news articles 

- Blogs from prominent commentators, especially those with new ideas 

- Some jobs (usually more senior ones) 

We haven't done summary emails (eg for this week's videos) for a while, but 
we'll hopefully start these again soon

 

Is this what you are looking for? We can potentially throttle any of the above. 

 

Finally, the format is up for debate. We normally do one story per email, so 
you can open what you want and reply selectively. Round up emails are more 
manageable for readers, but don't allow threaded replies. We normally send in 
plain text. This makes it easy to read, minimises your data, makes the content 
searchable and allows you to click through to read stories on the original 
source. 

 

Any of these things can be changed. FYI CDR isn't my list (it's Greg's), so I 
have no say what and who goes on. If the work I do isn't useful or welcome then 
let me know so I can change or stop it. I'm only doing it to help. It takes 
loads of my time and a not insignificant amount of my money to do this, so if 
it's not helpful then I need to know. 

 

Andrew 

 

 

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Re: [geo] Posts to list - input welcome

2022-10-28 Thread Ronal Larson 
I find it helpful

> On Oct 28, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Andrew Lockley  wrote:
> 
> Just an update regarding my posts to the list. After a hiatus, I've got an 
> assistant again to help me with managing twitter @geoengineering1 and posts 
> to CDR & geoengineering lists. (Fundraising has therefore now reopened to 
> help offset the costs - both for for regular donations 
> http://patreon.com/geoengineering  and one 
> time donations, https://gofund.me/da586daa  ) 
> 
> It's now a good time to ask people what they want. Presently we post the 
> following - very comprehensive on twitter and much more selective on the 
> lists. 
> - Reports from think tanks 
> - Policy announcements, esp. large economies 
> - Scientific papers 
> - Occasional high quality news articles 
> - Blogs from prominent commentators, especially those with new ideas 
> - Some jobs (usually more senior ones) 
> We haven't done summary emails (eg for this week's videos) for a while, but 
> we'll hopefully start these again soon
> 
> Is this what you are looking for? We can potentially throttle any of the 
> above. 
> 
> Finally, the format is up for debate. We normally do one story per email, so 
> you can open what you want and reply selectively. Round up emails are more 
> manageable for readers, but don't allow threaded replies. We normally send in 
> plain text. This makes it easy to read, minimises your data, makes the 
> content searchable and allows you to click through to read stories on the 
> original source. 
> 
> Any of these things can be changed. FYI CDR isn't my list (it's Greg's), so I 
> have no say what and who goes on. If the work I do isn't useful or welcome 
> then let me know so I can change or stop it. I'm only doing it to help. It 
> takes loads of my time and a not insignificant amount of my money to do this, 
> so if it's not helpful then I need to know. 
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> 
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[geo] Posts to list - input welcome

2022-10-28 Thread Andrew Lockley 
Just an update regarding my posts to the list. After a hiatus, I've got an
assistant again to help me with managing twitter @geoengineering1 and posts
to CDR & geoengineering lists. (Fundraising has therefore now reopened to
help offset the costs - both for for regular donations
http://patreon.com/geoengineering and one time donations,
https://gofund.me/da586daa )

It's now a good time to ask people what they want. Presently we post the
following - very comprehensive on twitter and much more selective on the
lists.
- Reports from think tanks
- Policy announcements, esp. large economies
- Scientific papers
- Occasional high quality news articles
- Blogs from prominent commentators, especially those with new ideas
- Some jobs (usually more senior ones)
We haven't done summary emails (eg for this week's videos) for a while, but
we'll hopefully start these again soon

Is this what you are looking for? We can potentially throttle any of the
above.

Finally, the format is up for debate. We normally do one story per email,
so you can open what you want and reply selectively. Round up emails are
more manageable for readers, but don't allow threaded replies. We normally
send in plain text. This makes it easy to read, minimises your data, makes
the content searchable and allows you to click through to read stories on
the original source.

Any of these things can be changed. FYI CDR isn't my list (it's Greg's), so
I have no say what and who goes on. If the work I do isn't useful or
welcome then let me know so I can change or stop it. I'm only doing it to
help. It takes loads of my time and a not insignificant amount of my money
to do this, so if it's not helpful then I need to know.

Andrew

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