Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-14 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
Do we have an agenda for today's meeting?

On 09/05/12 14:08, Andrea Aime wrote:
 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Chris Holmes chol...@opengeo.org
 mailto:chol...@opengeo.org wrote:

 Ah, I didn't see that Jody's had an actual day, was thinking it was
 just the time.

 Let's do the monday, so we're not getting in to the weekend for
 Australians.


 Works for me! So, I'll setup a Webex and we see how it goes?
 For those that cannot get it using the browser plugin (as I mentioned
 before,
 Linux users can have issues with audio conferencing) there are toll free
 numbers
 that you can call from a landline listed here:
 http://support.webex.com/MyAccountWeb/needsupport.do?userType=ht

 I'll follow up later with the Webex invitation.

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-14 Thread Andrea Aime
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
ben.caradoc-dav...@csiro.au wrote:
 Do we have an agenda for today's meeting?

Nope, we don't. I believe today's meeting will be a bit meta, as in,
getting organized about the meetings.

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-14 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 14/05/12 16:33, Andrea Aime wrote:
 On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
 ben.caradoc-dav...@csiro.au  wrote:
 Do we have an agenda for today's meeting?

 Nope, we don't. I believe today's meeting will be a bit meta, as in,
 getting organized about the meetings.

That is an agenda.  :-)

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-09 Thread Andrea Aime
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Chris Holmes chol...@opengeo.org wrote:

 Ah, I didn't see that Jody's had an actual day, was thinking it was
 just the time.

 Let's do the monday, so we're not getting in to the weekend for
 Australians.


Works for me! So, I'll setup a Webex and we see how it goes?
For those that cannot get it using the browser plugin (as I mentioned
before,
Linux users can have issues with audio conferencing) there are toll free
numbers
that you can call from a landline listed here:
http://support.webex.com/MyAccountWeb/needsupport.do?userType=ht

I'll follow up later with the Webex invitation.

Cheers
Andrea

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-09 Thread Alessio Fabiani
See you on monday then.

Regards,
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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Andrea Aime andrea.a...@geo-solutions.itwrote:

 On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Chris Holmes chol...@opengeo.org wrote:

 Ah, I didn't see that Jody's had an actual day, was thinking it was
 just the time.

 Let's do the monday, so we're not getting in to the weekend for
 Australians.


 Works for me! So, I'll setup a Webex and we see how it goes?
 For those that cannot get it using the browser plugin (as I mentioned
 before,
 Linux users can have issues with audio conferencing) there are toll free
 numbers
 that you can call from a landline listed here:
 http://support.webex.com/MyAccountWeb/needsupport.do?userType=ht

 I'll follow up later with the Webex invitation.

 Cheers
 Andrea

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-08 Thread Alessio Fabiani
Sounds good to me too.
This week Friday should work better for me.

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On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:02 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies 
ben.caradoc-dav...@csiro.au wrote:

 Monday to Wednesday would be easiest for me. I'd suggest fortnightly.
 But feel free to start later this week even if I can't make it.

 On 08/05/12 05:00, Chris Holmes wrote:
  Are we up for trying one this week? Thursday or Friday? I'm out next
  week at a conference, though I don't necessarily need to be there -
  don't think we should get too hung up on trying to coordinate
  absolutely everyone, just pick a reasonably good time.
  And then do them regularly. Do we want to do once every two weeks?
  More or less often?

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-08 Thread Andrea Aime
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Alessio Fabiani 
alessio.fabi...@geo-solutions.it wrote:

 Sounds good to me too.
 This week Friday should work better for me.


Friday works fine for me too.

Earlier in the thread Jody proposed May 14 though:

---

We can try it; I just went through the timezone dance let week for a GSoC
timeslot and ended up with:

-
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20120514p1=47p2=215p3=179p4=55

With that in mind this slot looked best:
- Monday, 14 May 2012 at
13:00:00http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2012month=5day=14hour=13min=0sec=0p1=47p2=215p3=179
- Rome 3pm
- New York 9am
- Calgary 7am
- Brisbane 11 pm

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The proposed time works for me, about the date, either Friday or Monday is
good

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-08 Thread Jody Garnett
 Friday works fine for me too.
 
 Earlier in the thread Jody proposed May 14 though:
A different day of the week will be fine; I would prefer thursday in order to 
have my Friday night free.

At least it sounds like the timeslot will work.

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-08 Thread Chris Holmes
Ah, I didn't see that Jody's had an actual day, was thinking it was
just the time.

Let's do the monday, so we're not getting in to the weekend for Australians.

I have to check my conference schedule, may be helping give a workshop
right then, but let's just get things rolling.

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Friday works fine for me too.

 Earlier in the thread Jody proposed May 14 though:

 A different day of the week will be fine; I would prefer thursday in order
 to have my Friday night free.

 At least it sounds like the timeslot will work.

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-08 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
Much appreciated!

On 09/05/12 08:29, Chris Holmes wrote:
 Let's do the monday, so we're not getting in to the weekend for Australians.

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-07 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Sounds good to me. I am good with Thursday or Friday, i imagine it will be
pretty early my time so should be no conflicts.

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Chris Holmes chol...@opengeo.org wrote:

 Ok, let's keep moving on this.

 I think we should stick with the 'voice' idea and see if we can get it
 to work. We can complement with an etherpad to take real time notes on
 all that is said, so we have a transcript. And a chat window (irc or
 an integrated webex one) to drop links and so people who can't do
 voice can follow along.

 Are we up for trying one this week? Thursday or Friday? I'm out next
 week at a conference, though I don't necessarily need to be there -
 don't think we should get too hung up on trying to coordinate
 absolutely everyone, just pick a reasonably good time.

 And then do them regularly. Do we want to do once every two weeks?
 More or less often?

 Looking at the list discussion I imagine the first topic should be
 Releases - scheduling and automation. Anybody else have other topics
 to discuss?

 On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Andrea Aime
 andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it wrote:
  On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ian Turton ijtur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 1 May 2012 23:01, Simone Giannecchini
  simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it wrote:
   Ciao Justin,
   I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very
   good.
  
 
  That would be a problem for me as I can do IRC while in the office but
  voice meetings would be annoying for my office mates :-) Plus I
  suspect that our fire wall would have more of a problem with webex. I
  also prefer irc since it is easier for people who can't make the
  meeting to read the notes rather than rely on someone to take minutes
  and post them later.
 
 
  Hmm... chat typing is slow enough that it will take 2 hours to do a gt/gs
  meeting side by side, which is too much time.
  If we cannot keep them short I fear we'll go back to no meetings
  in a very short time.
 
  Wondering if we can do something hybrid, mainly voice with people
  that cannot talk just listen and comment on a textual chat?
 
  Webex wise, no problem for me, but mind, voice support does not work
  on Linux (or at least, never managed to make it work on Ubuntu) because
  the java applet pretends to be the only one accessing the sound
 subsystem,
  not being able to (since the sound mixer is always on) it fails.
  I normally temporarily start up a Windows VM to do Webex
 
  Cheers
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-07 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
Monday to Wednesday would be easiest for me. I'd suggest fortnightly. 
But feel free to start later this week even if I can't make it.

On 08/05/12 05:00, Chris Holmes wrote:
 Are we up for trying one this week? Thursday or Friday? I'm out next
 week at a conference, though I don't necessarily need to be there -
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 absolutely everyone, just pick a reasonably good time.
 And then do them regularly. Do we want to do once every two weeks?
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-02 Thread Ian Turton
On 1 May 2012 23:01, Simone Giannecchini
simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it wrote:
 Ciao Justin,
 I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very good.


That would be a problem for me as I can do IRC while in the office but
voice meetings would be annoying for my office mates :-) Plus I
suspect that our fire wall would have more of a problem with webex. I
also prefer irc since it is easier for people who can't make the
meeting to read the notes rather than rely on someone to take minutes
and post them later.

But +1 for regular meetings.

Ian

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-02 Thread Alessio Fabiani
Hi all,

+1 on regular meetings, I would be very happy to attend.
No preferences between voice or IRC, there are pros and cons in both cases.
The very important thing IMHO is that we record the logs best as we can.

3pm Rome time works well for me also.

The IRC channels are still the old ones?

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 On 1 May 2012 23:01, Simone Giannecchini
 simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it wrote:
  Ciao Justin,
  I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very good.
 

 That would be a problem for me as I can do IRC while in the office but
 voice meetings would be annoying for my office mates :-) Plus I
 suspect that our fire wall would have more of a problem with webex. I
 also prefer irc since it is easier for people who can't make the
 meeting to read the notes rather than rely on someone to take minutes
 and post them later.

 But +1 for regular meetings.

 Ian

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-02 Thread Andrea Aime
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ian Turton ijtur...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 1 May 2012 23:01, Simone Giannecchini
 simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it wrote:
  Ciao Justin,
  I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very good.
 

 That would be a problem for me as I can do IRC while in the office but
 voice meetings would be annoying for my office mates :-) Plus I
 suspect that our fire wall would have more of a problem with webex. I
 also prefer irc since it is easier for people who can't make the
 meeting to read the notes rather than rely on someone to take minutes
 and post them later.


Hmm... chat typing is slow enough that it will take 2 hours to do a gt/gs
meeting side by side, which is too much time.
If we cannot keep them short I fear we'll go back to no meetings
in a very short time.

Wondering if we can do something hybrid, mainly voice with people
that cannot talk just listen and comment on a textual chat?

Webex wise, no problem for me, but mind, voice support does not work
on Linux (or at least, never managed to make it work on Ubuntu) because
the java applet pretends to be the only one accessing the sound subsystem,
not being able to (since the sound mixer is always on) it fails.
I normally temporarily start up a Windows VM to do Webex

Cheers
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-01 Thread Jody Garnett
We can try it; I just went through the timezone dance let week for a GSoC 
timeslot and ended up with:

- 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20120514p1=47p2=215p3=179p4=55

With that in mind this slot looked best:
- Monday, 14 May 2012 at 13:00:00 
(http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2012month=5day=14hour=13min=0sec=0p1=47p2=215p3=179)
- Rome 3pm
- New York 9am
- Calgary 7am
- Brisbane 11 pm

I suspect we may need to go one hour earlier to account for Perth?--
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-01 Thread Andrea Aime
Il giorno 01/mag/2012 23:44, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com ha
scritto:

 We can try it; I just went through the timezone dance let week for a GSoC
timeslot and ended up with:

 -
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20120514p1=47p2=215p3=179p4=55

 With that in mind this slot looked best:
 - Monday, 14 May 2012 at 13:00:00
 - Rome 3pm
 - New York 9am
 - Calgary 7am
 - Brisbane 11 pm

 I suspect we may need to go one hour earlier to account for Perth?

Two hours actually, as far as I know.

Cheers
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-01 Thread Simone Giannecchini
Ciao Justin,
I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very good.

We are happy to host the meetings with our webex account so that we
can register them and try to make them available afterwards, putting
them somewhere on one of our demo servers.
Baseline rationale behind resurrecting the meetings was to have an
agile way to try and coordinate lightly not to add overhead again, so
the less formalities, the better IMHO.

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini
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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Justin Deoliveira jdeol...@opengeo.org wrote:
 A big +1 here. A few thoughts.

 I agree voice is more productive but has a few potential drawbacks. Harder
 to get a transcript for one. Also some non-native english speakers may
 prefer the IRC medium rather than voice, but I will let others comment on
 that.

 I think the two week recurrence is a good idea and +1 on having one
 geotools/geosever/udig/java ... irc meeting. I guess the idea would be to
 use the geotools list for any organization required, like coming with agenda
 items before hand, etc...

 Anyways, glad to see this coming back. When do we kick off the first one?

 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Andrea Aime andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it
 wrote:

 Hi,
 talking with Chris last week we were discussing the general lack of
 coordination
 that has been affecting both GeoTools and GeoServer in the last year or
 so.

 It would be nice to try and open a bit communications channels with a
 means
 that gives more opportunity for people to talk about what they are doing,
 priorities
 expectations and needs.

 At the same time I believe we need to avoid getting bogged down into
 something
 that would make people disregard the meetings because they are using too
 much
 time.

 I've sent the mail to both geotools and geoserver ml because I'm thiking
 of doing
 a shared one between the two projects.
 This is a quick braindump of how it may look like (mostly to promote
 discussion
 on the topic):

 - voice meeting, to keep things short and get maximum bandwidth (skype,
 gtalk?
   with a chat fallback for needs such a sharing links, pasting text,
 raising hand
   to talk next in case the discussion gets busy with lots of people
 willing to say
   something
 - ideally time boxed to half an hour with the ability to expand on a as
 need basis
 - a meeting every two weeks
 - topics to be discussed scheduled in advance (with a default what's up
 one),
   with people signing up on the
   topics that they are interested to discuss (so that we can cover first
 the ones
   that most people are interested in, and keep for later the ones with a
 smaller
   audience, allowing people to leave earlier if they need to)
 - terse textual log only showing the topics discussed and the decision
 taken, to be
   edited collaboratively on something like etherpad (which is gone, but
 there
   is plenty of replacements around, including, if we want too, Google
 Docs)
 - a meeting that discusses both GeoTools and GeoServer, in that order.
   Actually, it can be something like GeoTools tribes meeting, with a
 first
   part where everybody is on board, and a second one where people
   split up and discuss separately, if they want to, uDig, GeoServer and
 whatever
   else they want
 - participation from PSC members somehow expected, other people can join
 at will

 If people from all time zones are interested we'll have to actually setup
 two meetings
 and do some follow up by mail, leveraging the logs:

 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20120601p1=215p2=179p3=256p4=196p5=240

 Cheers
 Andrea

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 Tech lead

 Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
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 Italy

 phone: +39 0584 962313
 fax:      +39 0584 962313
 mob:    +39 339 8844549

 http://www.geo-solutions.it
 http://geo-solutions.blogspot.com/
 http://www.youtube.com/user/GeoSolutionsIT
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaaime
 http://twitter.com/geowolf

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-01 Thread Jody Garnett
Nice so call it GeoTools Tribe open mike :-) 

Bring your coffee or beer as appropriate to your timezone; and lets try and get 
some releases out again. 

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 Baseline rationale behind resurrecting the meetings was to have an
 agile way to try and coordinate lightly not to add overhead again, so
 the less formalities, the better IMHO.
 
 


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Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Holmes
I do like text records. I think one thing that could work well would
be to etherpad it, so a few people can take relevant notes at once.
Then we can post that etherpad transcript to the blog when we're done.
I'd be happy to try to take lead on writing, as long as there'd be a
couple backups for when I'm talking or when I miss stuff.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Simone Giannecchini
simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it wrote:
 Ciao Justin,
 I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very good.

 We are happy to host the meetings with our webex account so that we
 can register them and try to make them available afterwards, putting
 them somewhere on one of our demo servers.
 Baseline rationale behind resurrecting the meetings was to have an
 agile way to try and coordinate lightly not to add overhead again, so
 the less formalities, the better IMHO.

 Regards,
 Simone Giannecchini
 ---
 Ing. Simone Giannecchini
 GeoSolutions S.A.S.
 Founder

 Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
 55054  Massarosa (LU)
 Italy

 phone: +39 0584 962313
 fax:      +39 0584 962313
 mob:    +39 333 8128928

 http://www.geo-solutions.it
 http://geo-solutions.blogspot.com/
 http://www.youtube.com/user/GeoSolutionsIT
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonegiannecchini
 http://twitter.com/simogeo

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 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Justin Deoliveira jdeol...@opengeo.org 
 wrote:
 A big +1 here. A few thoughts.

 I agree voice is more productive but has a few potential drawbacks. Harder
 to get a transcript for one. Also some non-native english speakers may
 prefer the IRC medium rather than voice, but I will let others comment on
 that.

 I think the two week recurrence is a good idea and +1 on having one
 geotools/geosever/udig/java ... irc meeting. I guess the idea would be to
 use the geotools list for any organization required, like coming with agenda
 items before hand, etc...

 Anyways, glad to see this coming back. When do we kick off the first one?

 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Andrea Aime andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it
 wrote:

 Hi,
 talking with Chris last week we were discussing the general lack of
 coordination
 that has been affecting both GeoTools and GeoServer in the last year or
 so.

 It would be nice to try and open a bit communications channels with a
 means
 that gives more opportunity for people to talk about what they are doing,
 priorities
 expectations and needs.

 At the same time I believe we need to avoid getting bogged down into
 something
 that would make people disregard the meetings because they are using too
 much
 time.

 I've sent the mail to both geotools and geoserver ml because I'm thiking
 of doing
 a shared one between the two projects.
 This is a quick braindump of how it may look like (mostly to promote
 discussion
 on the topic):

 - voice meeting, to keep things short and get maximum bandwidth (skype,
 gtalk?
   with a chat fallback for needs such a sharing links, pasting text,
 raising hand
   to talk next in case the discussion gets busy with lots of people
 willing to say
   something
 - ideally time boxed to half an hour with the ability to expand on a as
 need basis
 - a meeting every two weeks
 - topics to be discussed scheduled in advance (with a default what's up
 one),
   with people signing up on the
   topics that they are interested to discuss (so that we can cover first
 the ones
   that most people are interested in, and keep for later the ones with a
 smaller
   audience, allowing people to leave earlier if they need to)
 - terse textual log only showing the topics discussed and the decision
 taken, to be
   edited collaboratively on something like etherpad (which is gone, but
 there
   is plenty of replacements around, including, if we want too, Google
 Docs)
 - a meeting that discusses both GeoTools and GeoServer, in that order.
   Actually, it can be something like GeoTools tribes meeting, with a
 first
   part where everybody is on board, and a second one where people
   split up and discuss separately, if they want to, uDig, GeoServer and
 whatever
   else they want
 - participation from PSC members somehow expected, other people can join
 at will

 If people from all time zones are interested we'll have to actually setup
 two meetings
 and do some follow up by mail, leveraging the logs:

 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20120601p1=215p2=179p3=256p4=196p5=240

 Cheers
 Andrea

 --
 ---
 Ing. Andrea Aime
 GeoSolutions S.A.S.
 Tech lead

 Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
 55054  Massarosa (LU)
 Italy

 phone: +39 0584 962313
 fax:      +39 0584 962313
 mob:    +39 339 8844549

 http://www.geo-solutions.it
 http://geo-solutions.blogspot.com/
 http://www.youtube.com/user/GeoSolutionsIT
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaaime
 http://twitter.com/geowolf

 

Re: [Geoserver-devel] [Geotools-devel] Rebooting the IRC meetings?

2012-05-01 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 02/05/12 05:44, Jody Garnett wrote:
 With that in mind this slot looked best:
 - Monday, 14 May 2012 at 
 13:00:00http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2012month=5day=14hour=13min=0sec=0p1=47p2=215p3=179
 - Rome 3pm
 - New York 9am
 - Calgary 7am
 - Brisbane 11 pm
 I suspect we may need to go one hour earlier to account for Perth?

No, I think Brisbane is the edge-case; when it is 23:00 in Brisbane it 
is only 21:00 in Perth (we are closer to Europe). Perth is two hours 
(and 20 years) behind the Eastern states of Australia

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