Re: [Geoserver-devel] Documentation cleanup/updates

2015-02-04 Thread Rahkonen Jukka (MML)
Hi Mike,

Here are some small things from the Jira for making you warm up:

http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOS-5509 Page that refers to non-existing 
tutorial.
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOS-6431
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOS-6280
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOS-5708 
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOS-6277 (new icons added later for points, 
lines, and polygons)


A harder one about security:
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOS-5928
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOS-5912

I am not sure how well 
http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/webadmin/security/auth.html and 
http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/security/index.html correspond.

-Jukka Rahkonen-


Mike Pumphrey wrote:

 Hi all. Apologies for being away for a while. I have recently been given a 
 bit more time/space to contribute to GeoServer, and so my first thought 
 (unsurprisingly) was to see how the docs are doing.

 So I just wanted to solicit a few opinions here on the -devel list to start 
 for those who have been closer to the project than I have been:

* What are the major needs of the documentation as it exists now?
* What are the major gaps in the documentation (stuff not in there that should 
be)?
* Is it worth asking those two questions on the -users list as well?

 I can't guarantee that I'll be able to spend oodles time on this right now, 
 but I can say that I can spend more time than I have been (which, granted, 
 isn't all that hard).

Cheers!


Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] Documentation cleanup/updates

2015-01-14 Thread Jody Garnett
Welcome back Mike.

As a priority I would focus on new functionality coming into GeoServer for
the 2.7 release. We will will link to these docs during release
announcements to describe new features, and it is a great chance to grab
documentation while the developers still know how things are supposed to
work.

We are also starting to collect a large number of tutorials scattered
throughout the user guide. It may be worth gathering these into a logical
progression.

The REST API continues to be the largest source of confusion on the user
list - no specific documentation recommendations here just a not for
prioritization.
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] Documentation cleanup/updates

2015-01-12 Thread Jonathan Moules
Hi Mike,
Possibly beyond the scope of your request, but an improved search engine for 
the docs wouldn't go amiss. After all, what's the use of excellent docs (and 
generally GeoServer's are some of the best I've seen in an Open Source project) 
if they're hard/impossible to search effectively. Currently to effectively 
search it's necessary to use a 3rd-party search engine.

Random example I just picked - Try searching using the GeoServer engine for say 
WMS or when that fails - WMS Animator, which will also fail. Finally try 
Animator - this time there are 5 results, but none is what should be the 
obvious result - the WMS Animator page - 
http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/tutorials/animreflector.html.

Cheers,
Jonathan

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From: Mike Pumphrey [mailto:m...@boundlessgeo.com]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 10:44 PM
To: Geoserver-devel
Subject: [Geoserver-devel] Documentation cleanup/updates

Hi all. Apologies for being away for a while. I have recently been given a bit 
more time/space to contribute to GeoServer, and so my first thought 
(unsurprisingly) was to see how the docs are doing.

So I just wanted to solicit a few opinions here on the -devel list to start for 
those who have been closer to the project than I have been:

* What are the major needs of the documentation as it exists now?
* What are the major gaps in the documentation (stuff not in there that should 
be)?
* Is it worth asking those two questions on the -users list as well?

I can't guarantee that I'll be able to spend oodles time on this right now, but 
I can say that I can spend more time than I have been (which, granted, isn't 
all that hard).

Cheers!


Thanks,
Mike

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] Documentation cleanup/updates

2015-01-12 Thread Andrea Aime
On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Mike Pumphrey m...@boundlessgeo.com
wrote:

 Hi all. Apologies for being away for a while. I have recently been given a
 bit more time/space to contribute to GeoServer, and so my first thought
 (unsurprisingly) was to see how the docs are doing.


Welcome back :)



 So I just wanted to solicit a few opinions here on the -devel list to
 start for those who have been closer to the project than I have been:

 * What are the major needs of the documentation as it exists now?

* What are the major gaps in the documentation (stuff not in there that
 should be)?


Hum... answering both questions, maybe more tutorials around full
solutions? Like, our current guide is in many ways a reference,
people searching for howto style docs are often left out.



 * Is it worth asking those two questions on the -users list as well?


Indeed I think it would be a good idea, after all, they are the primary
users (pun not intended) of the docs

Cheers
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] Documentation cleanup/updates

2015-01-12 Thread Jody Garnett
I was able to add several pre-canned searches to this page:
http://geoserver.org/comm/

Perhaps we could do a similar thing for docs.geoserver.org

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On 12 January 2015 at 04:40, Jonathan Moules j.mou...@hrwallingford.com
wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 Possibly beyond the scope of your request, but an improved search engine
 for the docs wouldn't go amiss. After all, what's the use of excellent docs
 (and generally GeoServer's are some of the best I've seen in an Open Source
 project) if they're hard/impossible to search effectively. Currently to
 effectively search it's necessary to use a 3rd-party search engine.

 Random example I just picked - Try searching using the GeoServer engine
 for say WMS or when that fails - WMS Animator, which will also fail.
 Finally try Animator - this time there are 5 results, but none is what
 should be the obvious result - the WMS Animator page -
 http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/tutorials/animreflector.html.

 Cheers,
 Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Pumphrey [mailto:m...@boundlessgeo.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 10:44 PM
 To: Geoserver-devel
 Subject: [Geoserver-devel] Documentation cleanup/updates

 Hi all. Apologies for being away for a while. I have recently been given a
 bit more time/space to contribute to GeoServer, and so my first thought
 (unsurprisingly) was to see how the docs are doing.

 So I just wanted to solicit a few opinions here on the -devel list to
 start for those who have been closer to the project than I have been:

 * What are the major needs of the documentation as it exists now?
 * What are the major gaps in the documentation (stuff not in there that
 should be)?
 * Is it worth asking those two questions on the -users list as well?

 I can't guarantee that I'll be able to spend oodles time on this right
 now, but I can say that I can spend more time than I have been (which,
 granted, isn't all that hard).

 Cheers!


 Thanks,
 Mike

 Mike Pumphrey
 User Advocate | Boundless
 m...@boundlessgeo.com
 917-460-7213
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] Documentation cleanup/updates

2015-01-12 Thread Mike Pumphrey
Hi Jonathan. It's a bit out of my wheelhouse, but it shouldn't be too difficult 
to have the search box perform a Google Site Search or something similar. I've 
found the search feature of Sphinx to be odd and lacking in a number of areas.

To use your example:

https://www.google.com/search?q=animator+site%3Adocs.geoserver.org

It's the first result.


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On 1/12/2015 4:40 AM, Jonathan Moules wrote:
 Hi Mike,
 Possibly beyond the scope of your request, but an improved search engine for 
 the docs wouldn't go amiss. After all, what's the use of excellent docs (and 
 generally GeoServer's are some of the best I've seen in an Open Source 
 project) if they're hard/impossible to search effectively. Currently to 
 effectively search it's necessary to use a 3rd-party search engine.

 Random example I just picked - Try searching using the GeoServer engine for 
 say WMS or when that fails - WMS Animator, which will also fail. Finally 
 try Animator - this time there are 5 results, but none is what should be 
 the obvious result - the WMS Animator page - 
 http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/tutorials/animreflector.html.

 Cheers,
 Jonathan

 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Pumphrey [mailto:m...@boundlessgeo.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 10:44 PM
 To: Geoserver-devel
 Subject: [Geoserver-devel] Documentation cleanup/updates

 Hi all. Apologies for being away for a while. I have recently been given a 
 bit more time/space to contribute to GeoServer, and so my first thought 
 (unsurprisingly) was to see how the docs are doing.

 So I just wanted to solicit a few opinions here on the -devel list to start 
 for those who have been closer to the project than I have been:

 * What are the major needs of the documentation as it exists now?
 * What are the major gaps in the documentation (stuff not in there that 
 should be)?
 * Is it worth asking those two questions on the -users list as well?

 I can't guarantee that I'll be able to spend oodles time on this right now, 
 but I can say that I can spend more time than I have been (which, granted, 
 isn't all that hard).

 Cheers!


 Thanks,
 Mike

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