Re: New Installation External Programs

[Peter Corlett]

On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 06:09:27PM +0100, Budge wrote:
[...]
> My openSUSE repo does not have atomicparsley. It has libatomicparsley0
> which is apparently in a gtkpod.

I don't know much about SUSE (apart from that it used to be a half-arsed Red
Hat remix which was in severe decline by the 2000s and I had assumed it was
no more) but I do note that the binary name is "AtomicParsley" and not
lower-cased like all sensible Unix commands. So you might want to check for
a package with the same mixed-case name.

> Also for ffmpeg I am spoiled for choice with versions 4,5 &6 offered.

Pick whichever will actually install, starting from the latest and working
backwards. I'm still using ffmpeg 3.3.4, and it works just fine.


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Deleting One Off / Single Entry PVR Searches?

[Peter Kok]

Hello -

Is there a command line that would enable deletion / removal of one
off / single entry PVR searches?  For instance, The Banksy Story -
Omnibus 2, BBC Radio 4, m001p237, isn't available (never was), but
continues to be part of the PVR Scheduler listing / programmes (as
unfulfilled) in my instance.

Any assistance would be most appreciated.

Thank you.

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Re: '5 Live Science' not being found to download

[Peter Scott]

On 21.04.2022 23.38, MacFH - C E Macfarlane - News wrote:

What are the URLs of the listing pages you are using to get the PIDs?


I have a python script that shows BBC  listings with pids. You can find 
it here:


 https://github.com/cmsps

Peter
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Re: OT: Re: Unknown unknows. was Re: Why no Formula E?

[Peter S Kirk]

On 25 Apr 2021 at 19:52, Andrew Andrew  wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:09:15 +0100
> "Peter S Kirk"  wrote:
> 
> > On 25 Apr 2021 at 13:10, Jim web Jim web  wrote:
> >
> > > The problem being unknown unknowns
> >
> > Another unkown is why anyone watches - pit stop changeover is a joke
> >
> A bit behind the times are we?
> 
> Pit stops haven't happened since season 4 following the introduction of
> the Gen2 cars. Races are 45min + 1 lap with the same car.

Andrew and Graham Lunn, thanks. I will give it another look


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Re: Unknown unknows. was Re: Why no Formula E?

[Peter S Kirk]

On 25 Apr 2021 at 13:10, Jim web Jim web  wrote:

> The problem being unknown unknowns

Another unkown is why anyone watches - pit stop changeover is a joke



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Re: YouTube with OBS

[Peter S Kirk]

On 26 Oct 2020 at 11:50, michael norman michael norman 
 wrote:

> I'll ask again, what does this gave to do with GIP ?

Useful OT chat to record non-BBC sources


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Re: YouTube with OBS

[Peter S Kirk]

On 26 Oct 2020 at 14:37, Peter Corlett Peter Corlett  
wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 11:50:47AM +, michael norman wrote:
> > On 26/10/2020 11:40, Chris Brady wrote:
> >> An alternative to actual downloading it is possible to use the free
> >> open-source OBS screen capture app. to copy YouTube (and many other clips)
> >> direct from the screen. I've used it for RTE programmes.because RTE-Player
> >> doesn't appear to work in the UK. CJB
> 
> I doubt that RTE's geographic blocks are any harder to get round than any 
> other
> broadcaster's and so you should be able to stream it from the UK if you really
> wanted to. It is hard to argue against the convenience of YouTube though.
> 
> > I'll ask again, what does this gave to do with GIP ?
> 
> Oh, I don't know, why *would* people on a mailing list which discusses a
> GitHub-hosted downloader of rights-managed content care about a takedown of
> another GitHub-hosted downloader of rights-managed content? And why would they
> care about workarounds if get_iplayer went away or was otherwise rendered
> inoperable?
> 
> I note from 
> https://www.squarepenguin.co.uk/blog/squarepenguin-forums-archived/
> that SquarePenguin has thrown in the towel on get_iplayer's only other public
> support channel, noting that Dinkypumpkin had already stopped participating. I
> can't say I can blame either of them, what with all of the moaning ninnies.
> 
> get_iplayer has a bus factor of 1, and was already at great risk of going away
> even before these recent developments. So the answer to your question and your
> repeated question is "quite a lot, actually".

Peter, Well said. Don't think I've ever moaned about any GiP bugs, 
features. 

Hugely grateful for what GiP does and huge thanks to "The Team" of 1, 2 +

I do hope Dinky or someone else will keep GiP updated

Peter


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Re: YouTube with OBS

[Peter Corlett]

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 11:50:47AM +, michael norman wrote:
> On 26/10/2020 11:40, Chris Brady wrote:
>> An alternative to actual downloading it is possible to use the free
>> open-source OBS screen capture app. to copy YouTube (and many other clips)
>> direct from the screen. I've used it for RTE programmes.because RTE-Player
>> doesn't appear to work in the UK. CJB

I doubt that RTE's geographic blocks are any harder to get round than any other
broadcaster's and so you should be able to stream it from the UK if you really
wanted to. It is hard to argue against the convenience of YouTube though.

> I'll ask again, what does this gave to do with GIP ?

Oh, I don't know, why *would* people on a mailing list which discusses a
GitHub-hosted downloader of rights-managed content care about a takedown of
another GitHub-hosted downloader of rights-managed content? And why would they
care about workarounds if get_iplayer went away or was otherwise rendered
inoperable?

I note from https://www.squarepenguin.co.uk/blog/squarepenguin-forums-archived/
that SquarePenguin has thrown in the towel on get_iplayer's only other public
support channel, noting that Dinkypumpkin had already stopped participating. I
can't say I can blame either of them, what with all of the moaning ninnies.

get_iplayer has a bus factor of 1, and was already at great risk of going away
even before these recent developments. So the answer to your question and your
repeated question is "quite a lot, actually".


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Re: RIAA wipes youtube-dl from the internet

[Peter S Kirk]

The one thing I've not seen link to, other than El Reg, is the RIAA DMCA 
takedown notice:

https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md

They seem to have given up on torrent sites as TPB, Zooqle etc now 
available on BT. Moved on to unfunded community projects. imo evil bstards

Let's hope it's another pointless whack a mole

"Depriving artists"? No, I might dl, but I'd never have paid if no dl

RIAA assumes all who dl for free would pay - false dichotemy

On 24 Oct 2020 at 20:14, VeniVidiVideo VeniVidiVideo 
 wrote:

> Thanks for the (sad) heads up and the wget solution.  I had to use an extra 
> flag to get it:
> 
> wget https://yt-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl --no-check-certificate -O 
> youtube-dl_latest
> 
> But that worked, and obtained the 2020.09.20 version.  Curiously it's quite a 
> bit smaller than the 2020.09.06 version I had installed.  Keeping both until 
> I know the version I just downloaded works well.
> 
> -vvv
> 
> > On Oct 24, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Roger Bell_West  wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 03:24:45PM +0100, Jim web wrote:
> >> i.e. came from the openmandriva address.
> >> 
> >> Is that correct and as should be expected?
> > 
> > No idea, but it's identical to the version 2020.09.20 that I already had.
> > 


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Re: Demise of get_iplayer PPA

[Peter S Kirk]

Mark,

Great work, Thank you for sharing

On 5 Jul 2020 at 10:49, Mark Grant Mark Grant  
wrote:
> 
> I noticed in the Release Notes for v3.26 the announcement of the demise
> of the get_iplayer PPA. I have, for a number of years, been packaging
> and publishing my own software for Debian and Ubuntu. So far I have
> done the same for get_iplayer on Debian but only for my own
> consumption. With the demise of the current PPA, and given that I would
> continue to package get_iplayer for myself, I thought it should be
> straight forward to extend that activity to a PPA and a Debian
> repository.
> 
> So, FWIW, my PPA now builds packages for Bionic, Eoan and Focal, and my
> Debian repo has packages for Stretch and Buster.
> 
> Ubuntu PPA
> ==
> https://code.launchpad.net/~m-grant-prg/+archive/ubuntu/utils
> If you wish to use this then you should remove the old PPA. Then add
> the new one:-
> 
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:m-grant-prg/utils
> sudo apt-get update
> 
> Debian Repo
> ===
> Please follow the instructions at:-
> https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=home%3Am-grant-prg=get-iplayer
> 
> A Couple of Points To Note
> ==
> * This is a packaging-only project, no upstream project file will be
> amended.
> * Packaging-only issues can be addressed, software issues should be
> addressed upstream.
> * get_iplayer has substantial functionality. This fuctionality cannot
> be tested as part of the package build and publication.
> * This is, of course, best effort only.
> 
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> Mark
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Re: Which Linux distro with get_iplayer support

[Peter Corlett]

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 03:25:26PM +0200, Dave Widgery wrote:
[...]
> I was looking at robolinux that provides appears to provides good windows
> look and feel and windows compatibility, I wondered if anyone had any
> experience of robolinux or can suggest a suitable alternative.

If you are looking for something which is substantially identical to Windows,
have you considered Windows?


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Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: OT Help Please with Clicks and Volume Levels

[Peter Corlett]

On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 10:12:26AM +0100, Jim web wrote:
[...]
> I'm now wondering if a cheap 'crystal detector' and a DVM might do the job
> given an input filter... It would at least show up bursts of interference.

A "microwave leakage detector" is an existing product and doesn't cost much.

While you're checking them out on Amazon, pick up a wired headset and some
Ethernet cable, and then skip the leakage detector.


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Re: OT BBC Iplayer on firestick problems

[Peter Corlett]

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 07:42:22AM +0100, Dave Widgery wrote:
[...]
> I am using a proxy server but it is not showing any errors that might be
> associated with that. I am not really asking for a fix, I was just wondering
> if it was just me or is bbc iplayer just not very reliable? or at least the
> firestick version.

The BBC's edge filter doesn't always give useful error messages to third-party
clients such as get_iplayer or a Fire Stick, and even where it does, said
clients are often terrible at reporting errors. I've read the get_iplayer
source code in dismay, and I suspect Amazon's isn't much better :)

To check your proxy hasn't been blocked, you would need to visit the iPlayer
website in an ordinary browser to see whether it works or whether it complains
that you're outside the UK. However, this action may actually cause the proxy
to be added to the block list as browsers tend to reveal one's true location.


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Re: GiP and ffmpeg

[Peter S Kirk]

On 4 Nov 2019 at 14:15, Budge Budge  wrote:

> The Linn DS engineer advised that he received a file from you and advised that
> if you convert the track to FLAC or ALAC that it plays.
> The problems are caused by the file being split into an enormous number
> of tiny chunks (over 400,000 audio blocks for a 9,200 second track); any
> encoder which reduced this would allow the file to play.

imo the Linn DS does not have sufficient cpu power, memory or cache to 
handle such a fragmented file


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Re: OT Video Conversion

[Peter Corlett]

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 05:25:41PM +0200, Dave Widgery wrote:
> I would like to copy some of my DVD collection onto hard disk to make them
> easier to access and I am getting very frustrated with downloading programs
> that claim to be free versions only to find out that in fact that it is a
> trial version, or in the case of a comprehensive program like Handbrake that
> is free but takes for ever to run on my pc.

> ffmpeg seams to be a very efficient program for converting video, is it
> possible to use it to extract video directly from the DVD video files, if so
> can anyone point me in the direction of a tutorial that explains how to do
> it.

ffmpeg delegates H.264 encoding to libx264, as does Handbrake. libx264 is an
excellent H.264 encoder -- I believe the BBC use it for encoding video for
iPlayer -- so anything else you may download is probably also just a fancy skin
over x264.

To put it another way, ffmpeg is going to be just as slow as everything else
you've tried. There are various useful (or at least OCD) reasons for getting
down and dirty with the ffmpeg command line, but I'm not convinced that you
would get any useful benefit from doing this sort of thing the hard way.

> I realise that it is unlikely to work directly from the DVD so I am using
> DVDshrink which allows me to create a hard disk decrypted version of the DVD
> ahead of any other video processing.

Just keep the decrypted DVD images around and play those, which is good enough
and involves a lot less time and effort doing decent transcodes. It's not like
they take much space in this era of cheap 8TB disks, which are good for over
1,000 DVD images.


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Re: iPlayer Radio Switch Off

[Peter Corlett]

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 09:28:53AM +0200, Dave Widgery wrote:
[...]
> Although I sympathise with your views on the daily mail, to respond with
> criticism without any attempt to provide a more reliable source for the news
> which many people on this group may be interested is very unhelpful.

The Daily Heil is infamous for creatively reinterpreting stories, and they also
like to do hatchet jobs on the BBC. It's reasonable to discount whatever they
say until a story appears elsewhere in media that doesn't have an axe to grind.

However, this particular story seems to be based on a BBC press release, and
does have a seed of truth in it. Other reports with less sensationalist and
loaded language include e.g.:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/04/bbc-kills-iplayer-radio-app-replaces-bbc-sounds/
https://completemusicupdate.com/article/bbc-to-shut-down-iplayer-radio-app/

Those other articles also note that iPlayer Radio works internationally but BBC
Sounds does not. This is perhaps a warning sign for those using get_iplayer
from abroad.

I'd give the BBC Sounds app a spin, but they've managed to release a version
which doesn't work on my device. It also seems to require one to create and
sign in with a BBC Account, for reasons which seem to be incompatible with
GDPR.

> Are you saying that the article is total fiction? have you even read the
> article to see if it contains any useful information before writing it off?

It's not total fiction, but it also doesn't really deliver any useful
information that wasn't already known and reported elsewhere in more detail
several weeks ago. Just like pretty much everything else in that rag.


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Re: BritBox: BBC and ITV set out plans for new streaming service

[Peter S Kirk]

On 28 Jul 2019 at 13:24, Peter Corlett Peter Corlett  
wrote:

> > It started impacting Youtube a few months ago - all BBC Comedy, Docu, Drama
> > third party uploads being deleted and replaced with Pay To View.
> 
> It may be worth noting that many of those videos are only blocked for UK IP
> addresses, and the rest of the world can still view them. A solution thus
> presents itself.

Nope BBC issueing DMCA on all to monetise on Britbox - many on Britbox are 
direct copies of what others saved, recorded, vhs etc that were uploaded to 
YT thar BBC had lost. I've seen a few watermarked clips on Britbox/BBC 
Studios

Yes Minister - Equal Opportunities 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KCB6cRruc

Removed not UK block

Your Public IPv4 is: 185.220.101.xxx
Location: Amsterdam, NH NL
ISP: Zwiebelfreunde E.V.

https://www.youtube.com/user/50Centdu69120/videos

Most except clips Yes Minister gone

TFIDLT



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Re: BritBox: BBC and ITV set out plans for new streaming service

[Peter Corlett]

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 01:35:39AM +0100, Peter S Kirk wrote:
[...]
> It started impacting Youtube a few months ago - all BBC Comedy, Docu, Drama
> third party uploads being deleted and replaced with Pay To View.

It may be worth noting that many of those videos are only blocked for UK IP
addresses, and the rest of the world can still view them. A solution thus
presents itself.

> All the old stuff I've watched was a nostalga trip and usually abandonded
> after concluded "Good in it's day, rubbish now" - pay = no.

That old stuff is also now dirt-cheap on DVD. Streaming is for those with more
money than patience to wait for a box set to turn up in the post, or who can't
be bothered to root around the bargain bins.

I picked up I CLAVDIVS the other day; a brace of DVD-10s containing twelve
hours of baby-eating action for a fiver. Bargain! It has Dutch subtitles, but
eh, whatever, het is goed voor mijn Nederlands. Apparently Dutch kids are made
of sterner stuff because Kijkwijzer gave it a lower rating than the BBFC.

> So far News & Current affairs eg QT still permited.

The stuff that's not worth pirating, you mean? :)


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Re: Excessive Bounces

[Peter Corlett]

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 09:21:26AM +0100, Colin Law wrote:
[...]
> This is the only list I use that has this shown this issue.

Then you are lucky. I'm on *loads* of mailing lists, and several of them have
had GMail users complaining of missing list posts and being unsubscribed. The
common factor here is of course Google's mail servers rather than the lists'.

Of course, being the kind of whiny freeloaders that services like Gmail
attract, they also demand that the lists change their configuration to suit
them. After all, why deal with one's own poor life choices when one can blame
everybody else instead?

> Strictly speaking it may not be the fault of the list but we will not get
> anywhere by trying to tell Google they are doing it wrong. Nor is it valid to
> say that users of the list cannot use gmail.

Mailing list admins can set any policy they like and indeed could choose to
reject GMail users if they so wish. Their server, their rules. It turns out
that there's an extremely relaxed policy on this list (and most other lists),
as demonstrated by the occasional spam which slips through and tolerance of
such blatantly off-topic threads as this one. Compare this to the get_iplayer
forum, with a long list of rules which dinky enforces with an iron fist.

In contrast, Google have a very strict policy, and expect the rest of the
Internet to spend a lot of time and money chasing their latest capricious
changes. This is a full-time job, and unsurprisingly, many people running mail
services on the side have better things to do than try and support users of an
actively hostile mail service. If it works, fine; if it doesn't, tough.

> The list is for the use of all get_iplayer users, not just those that do not
> use gmail. Unfortunately the solution is to be pragmatic and change the list
> configuration so that it works around Googles failings, as other lists do.

I'm sure the list admin(s) will be delighted to receive your remittance to
cover the cost of the reconfiguration, testing, extra server load, and ongoing
maintenance required to improve (but not guarantee!) deliverability to GMail.
Until then, they'll run the list however they please.


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Re: Excessive Bounces

[Peter Corlett]

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 08:32:36PM -0300, david whelan wrote:
> Does anyone know of any free email providers that are suitably
> standards-compliant?

You generally get what you pay for, and that applies in spades when you demand
"free".

However, ProtonMail is a freemium service which has a good reputation, and your
usage may fit in their free/trial tier. I haven't used it, though.


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Re: BritBox: BBC and ITV set out plans for new streaming service

[Peter S Kirk]

On 19 Jul 2019 at 9:57, CJB CJB  wrote:

> BritBox: BBC and ITV set out plans for new streaming service
> 
> Wonder if this will impact GiP?
> 
> Huh - a cache a year old might be a tad large!!
> 
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49037855
> 
> ITV and BBC programmes will move on to BritBox after they have been
> broadcast on TV and fallen off the broadcasters' own (free) catch-up
> services - BBC iPlayer and ITV Hub. The BBC is soon expected to get
> permission from regulator Ofcom to keep shows on iPlayer for a year as
> standard.

It started impacting Youtube a few months ago - all BBC Comedy, Docu, Drama 
third party uploads being deleted and replaced with Pay To View.

All the old stuff I've watched was a nostalga trip and usually abandonded 
after concluded "Good in it's day, rubbish now" - pay = no.

So far News & Current affairs eg QT still permited.

Bitchute & TPB beckons




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Re: Excessive Bounces

[Peter Corlett]

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 09:14:40PM +1000, Steven Carr wrote:
> Anyone else getting kicked from the list? I’ve been kicked twice now for
> “excessive bounces”.

No, because I'm not using a proprietary webmail platform which won't play
nicely with anything outside of its walled garden.

> Has an admin (not)updated settings on the list that’s causing GMail to
> reject emails? I know on some other lists I’m a member of changes have
> had to be made to Mailman due to DKIM/DMARC.

Well, they didn't *have* to make the changes. They could have been aware that
enabling DKIM/DMARC can involve a fair bit of work to configure, test, and
maintain, and tell you to stop wasting their time with expensive support
requests and sign up with a better email provider.


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Re: Porridge

[Peter S Kirk]

Boxed sets are old, thus not on PVR

Copy and paste pid url then hit Record, if that's too difficult then pay 
for dvd or my recordings

Stop whining

On 7 Jul 2019 at 22:31, CJB CJB  wrote:

> Just tried a search for "porridge" with the web-based PVR and also
> with the commandine version. Nothing. Also "silent witness" produces
> nothing. Boxed sets - what boxed sets? CJB



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Re: New distro.

[Peter Corlett]

On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:38:12AM +0100, RS wrote:
> [...] Does ffmpeg require more than 64 logical processors?

Obviously not, since it works fine on machines with as few as one. Indeed,
ffmpeg defaults to using just one unless you pass the "-threads" option.

It's debatable whether a single ffmpeg instance could take advantage of that
many cores since Amdahl's Law will kick in as it tries to co-ordinate
everything. Split it into multiple four- or eight-thread encodes and run them
in parallel on that monster server, or even better, run them in parallel on a
fleet of much-cheaper desktop machines.


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Re: New distro.

[Peter S Kirk]

On 30 Jun 2019 at 19:50, RS RS  wrote:

> > mainly because third party library libx265 (video encoder)
> > has been configured with NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Access) support,
> > a feature absent under Vista+XP:
> >
> > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/procthread/numa-support
> >
> >> Windows Server 2008, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2003
> >> and Windows XP: Processor groups are not supported.
> 
> Hi Vangelis
> 
> Why do you need libx265?
> 
> Best wishes
> Richard

We don't as BBC not using it "yer"

Have a look at thepiratebay, lots of x265 encoded eg 1080p Formula 1



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Re: New distro.

[Peter S Kirk]

On 22 Jun 2019 at 22:37, MacFH - C E Macfarlane MacFH - C E Macfarlane 
 wrote:

> Please see below ...
> 
> On 22/06/2019 18:52, Peter S Kirk wrote:
> > XP SP3 32bit
> > GiP 3.14.0
> > FFMPEG N-76331-gf8d429e
> 
> When upgrading from 2.x to 3.x, did you run a Windows installer or just 
> copy in new files by hand or by using git or equivalent?
> 

Ran GiP windows installer then replaced ffmpeg with XP version

fyi I use pvr not cli, if ffmpeg not XP compat file remains as untagged .ts


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Re: New distro.

[Peter S Kirk]

On 21 Jun 2019 at 21:42, MacFH - C E Macfarlane MacFH - C E Macfarlane 
 wrote:

> On 21/06/2019 18:51, Peter S Kirk wrote:
> > I run GiP under XP 32 with no problem. iirc all that is needed is to
> > replace ffmpeg with last XP compat version#
> 
> Which version?   My recollection is that GiP support for XP died around 
> the end of v2.x, whereas we're now on 3.2x.

XP SP3 32bit
GiP 3.14.0
FFMPEG N-76331-gf8d429e



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Re: New distro.

[Peter S Kirk]

On 20 Jun 2019 at 13:39, MacFH - C E Macfarlane MacFH - C E Macfarlane 
 wrote:
> 
> I think we all have our methods, and I'm not convinced that mine or 
> anyone else's is better than other possible methods, but in the 
> confusion of suggestions, there is the possibility of important 
> information being lost or obscured, which is that both under Linux & 
> Windows, the LibXML libraries are a potential deadfall.  In Windows, 
> especially under 32-bit, you have to do quite a lot of pissing about to 
> get LibXML to work with Perl at all  -  about a year or so ago I posted 
> here detailed instructions for installing and running GiP on Win XP, 
> previously assumed to be no longer possible, which covered that ground 
> and more  -  and even under Linux, if you try to configure and compile 
> the libraries manually, you may fail.  As many have suggested, in Linux 
> the easiest way is to install the relevant packages using apt-get or 
> whatever.
> 

I run GiP under XP 32 with no problem. iirc all that is needed is to 
replace ffmpeg with last XP compat version


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Re: WS podcast sideffect, was Re: Grenfell Tower podcasts

[Peter S Kirk]

On 26 Mar 2019 at 14:32, David Cantrell David Cantrell 
 wrote:

> Also note
> that while the government made the BBC fund the World Service recently,
> it has historically not been funded from the licence fee. Now that it
> *is* funded by the licence fee we should welcome adverts on it as a way
> of offsetting that effective reduction in the funding available to the
> BBC.

+1 it used to funded by Foreign & Commonwealth Office and less agenda 
biassed. Now it's often an extended "Womens Hour" "Global Warming" 
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Re: Steam radio...

[Peter S Kirk]

On 16 Mar 2019 at 12:42, Jim web Jim web  wrote:

>  (Prompted by some Tv programmes on 'Hornby' :-) )

James May?

Hornby scrapping all the old dies had me ranting, they should have 
sold/auctioned/ebayed them.

Lesson for woman in shop: don't make up excuses for Hornby's delays, tell 
the truth whilst being positive.



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Re: Poodcast that isn't a podcast

[Peter Scott]

On 16/01/2019 16.53, George Eycott wrote:

"Fortunately" was until recently a podcast, but now is only available
through BBC Sounds which seems a retrograde step (and one I hope isn't
replicated!).


I have been grumbling for months that the BBC often forgets to update 
the RSS file that subscribers need if podcasts are to appear 
automagically on their gizmos.  I suspect you have simply found another 
instance of that.  Nowadays, I just email the programme's producer. 
Something like joe.blo...@bbc.co.uk usually works.


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Re: BBC-wants-shows-available-iPlayer-12-months-bid-compete-rivals

[Peter S Kirk]

On 8 Jan 2019 at 18:17, Vangelis forthnet Vangelis forthnet 
 wrote:

> On Tue Jan 8 08:52:54 GMT 2019, CJB wrote:
> 
> >
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6566501/BBC-wants-shows-available-iPlayer-12-months-bid-compete-rivals.html
> 
> From that:
> 
> >> to compete with Netflix and Amazon Prime
> 
> ... I am surprised it was not brought up in this discussion,
> but these BBC "competitors" exclusively use (unbreakable)
> DRM protected streams/downloads EVERYWHERE!

imo BBC are calling them Competitors under false pretensions. BBC is UK 
only and Free.

This plea to Ofcom is an attempt to destroy Amazon, Netflix etc in UK

I hope Ofcom rejects BBC extension



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Re: BBC-wants-shows-available-iPlayer-12-months-bid-compete-rivals

[Peter Corlett]

On Tue, Jan 08, 2019 at 08:52:54AM +, CJB wrote:
> Massive storage required for this 

Not really.

The BBC already has Redux, which is basically a DVB-T tuner somewhere in London
capturing the off-air signal and recording it indefinitely. This is useful for
all sorts of reasons, an important one being that broadcasters are legally
required to produce copies of recent broadcasts to Ofcom on demand.

What's not mentioned on Redux's Wikipedia page is that it apparently used to
archive *all* DVB-T broadcasts until they got caught at it and were told to
stop. I'm surprised that the other broadcasters didn't realise that the BBC
were apparently prepared to handle their expensive compliance requirements for
free.

Anyway, a back-of-beermat calculation reckons that the two BBC muxes at Crystal
Palace spit out roughly 900GB per day, 300TB per year, or about 4PB since the
project started. That's an implausible number by the standards of a domestic
user trying to pirate all the things, but pocket fluff for a billion-pound
broadcaster.

Redux is run in-house, but as a guideline to the costs, Backblaze would charge
$24k (£19k) per annum to store 4PB in its B2 service. Their latest storage pods
can squeeze half a petabyte into a 4U case. If you're not familiar with
rackmount gear, that's roughly the same sort of size as a tower PC on its side.
So 4PB fits easily in a standard 42U rack.

iPlayer appears to be a client of Redux, which would just be a queue of things
to transcode into the various streaming-friendly formats. The cost of iPlayer's
*cache* would increase twelvefold, but that's probably a rounding error
compared to everything else.


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Re: Converting AAC to MP3 / FLAC

[Peter S Kirk]

On 21 Dec 2018 at 12:53, CJB CJB  wrote:

> Hi - someone kindly sent me a download in AAC format. How can I
> convert it to MP3 or FLAC. Thanks - Chris B.


ffmpeg -i audio.aac -acodec libmp3lame audio.mp3
FLAC ? Why, it won't improve already lossy compressed

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3255674/convert-audio-files-to-mp3-
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Re: Slightly OT Video conversion

[Peter S Kirk]

On 9 Dec 2018 at 10:25, Colin Law Colin Law  wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Dec 2018 at 08:55, Dave Widgery  wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I am trying to convert some .ts files to mp4
> 
> ffmpeg should be able to do that, see this for example
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17907762/how-to-convert-re-wrap-transport-stream-to-mpeg-4-container-in-ios-app
> 
> Colin

+1 on ffmpeg

The file GiP downloads is a .ts which is then changed .mp4 when prog info 
added.

You can observe this in the web pvr.


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Re: Fake get_iplayer mail

[Peter Corlett]

On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 05:56:19PM +, Az wrote:
[...]
> I expect someone got into the mailing list at some point and harvested email
> addresses.

There is a public archive of this mailing list, and spammers would have just
scraped it for addresses as part of their general nefarious web crawling. They
don't need to have "got into the mailing list".


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Re: OT VM or Dual boot and get_iplayer

[Peter Corlett]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:40:34AM +, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote:
[...]
> I can only speak for myself. Most of my hardware has insufficient grunt to be
> able to VM satisfactorily.

Back in 1999, I was using VMWare 1.0 to run Windows 95 on a Linux box so we
could test the websites we'd built. My work PC would have been something like a
Pentium 166 with 16MB of RAM. I don't recall it being unacceptably slow, but
Windows 95 was never really much of a performer even on bare metal.

"Most of my hardware" is considerably scabbier than that, but that's because I
collect interesting old curiosities. I suspect that get_iplayer would still run
on my Amiga 1200.

If your machine is even slower than that, do yourself a favour and drag it to
the nearest skip. You'll probably find a much better machine already in there
waiting for you.


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Re: My Sounds

[Peter Corlett]

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 01:37:55PM +, Owen Smith wrote:
> What they don't seem to make any allowance for is people like me. I do NOT
> want to login to access BBC radio and I do NOT want a personalised view of
> BBC content. I much prefer seeing the schedule for the stations and selecting
> something to play from that.

FWIW, listeners from outside of the UK are not prompted to log in. A VPN is one
obvious workaround.

I suspect one could argue that the BBC is breaching the GDPR as "[a] data
controller may not refuse service to users who decline consent to processing
that is not strictly necessary in order to use the service", and we know it's
not strictly necessary because non-UK users can listen anonymously. Presumably
the BBC's lawyers aren't that daft and have a suitable retort, but I'd love to
know what it is.


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Re: Loss of BBC HD channels on satellite

[Peter S Kirk]

On 18 Oct 2018 at 15:46, VeniVidiVideo VeniVidiVideo 
 wrote:

> Better deconstruction:
> 
> Original poster politely communicates what could be vital information for 
> people who have a shared interest in BBC
> programming.
> 
> Second poster has a stick up his butt.

+1


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Re: Downloading Subtitles

[Peter S Kirk]

Until recently subtitles were downloaded first thus get_i pvr could be 
stopped once done.

Now they are downloaded after video. Why?

On 8 Oct 2018 at 0:08, Graham Temple Graham Temple 
 wrote:

> I've often wondered that
> 
> Graham Temple
> +44 (0)1502 533433
> +44 (0)7508 578446
> 
> 
>   Original Message  
> From: chrisjbr...@gmail.com
> Sent: 8 October 2018 00:05
> To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Downloading Subtitles
> 
> Please - is there a way of downloading subtitles after the respective
> video file has been downloaded? The latter file is a large one and I
> don't wont to download it again. But trying to watch the video the
> sound is not clear. The pid is b0bkvw2l BTW. Many thanks. Chris B.
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Re: OT Help with picture size please.

[Peter S Kirk]

On 27 Aug 2018 at 10:32, Budge Budge  wrote:

> Forgive my ignorance but I am stuck with a picture size problem with old 
> editions of Inspector Morse videos.  These have been saved as .mp4 
> videos and are generally 4x3 format.
> 
> Given that my screen is a wide format screen I can accept that there 
> will be black margins each side of the screen but the picture does not 
> appear to be 4x3 but closer to square and if anything appears taller in 
> proportion ie slightly distorted.
> 
> I have played with most of the controls I can find to no avail and seek 
> help getting back to basics to find out if I am doing something wrong. 
> Any suggestions please.
> Budge
> 

What player are you using? Try VLC

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Re: --refresh-future bug

[Peter Corlett]

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 10:40:20AM +0100, RS wrote:
> [...] I can't speak for the poster in the forum, but for myself I am rarely
> interested in regional or local programmes. I now use
> --refresh-exclude-groups=regional,local
> Ought that to be the default?

Local, possibly, given that local TV output is generally just that bit of bland
badly-produced "human interest" filler one has to sit through between the
proper news and the weather. Local radio is actively dreadful and I suspect the
BBC would quickly shut it down if they were allowed to.

Regional is a different kettle of fish. BBC Scotland is a centre of excellence,
and BBC NI also has some fine programming. /The Blame Game/ gives a very
entertaining insight into the state of Irish politics, for example.


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Re: no more hslv format ?

[Peter S Kirk]

Many posts back it was mentioned they are not true 50fps, instead each 
frame from a 25fps is duplicated merely to allow BBC to boast about 50fps 
streaming.

On 2 May 2018 at 19:07, Owen Smith Owen Smith  
wrote:

> What do you mean this isn't a lossy transcoding? How can ffmpeg go from 50fps 
> to 25fps without losing anything? The
> frames are not all complete frames, software can't just throw alternate 
> frames away. Well it could,  but the only way
> to do that is a full H.264 decode, then discard alternate frames, then a full 
> H.264 encode again which is going to
> involve loss.
> 
> Most frames are not fully present in the original stream, they are 
> interpolated from previous and subsequent frames.
> You can't throw any of those away, because other frames are interpolated from 
> them. It would need to be a very special
> original encode which had all even frames only interpolated from other even 
> frames and ditto for odd frames to allow
> alternate frames to be discarded. And a special encode like that would bloat 
> the file size substantially, almost
> doubling it I would expect.



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Re: Unsubscribe!

[Peter S Kirk]

Why did you join if no understanding?

Answer may help refine group description.

As James says to stop.

On 30 Apr 2018 at 21:06, Geoff Vost Geoff Vost  wrote:

> No idea how but please stop!
> I cannot understand any of this and just want it to stop filling my mail box!
> Please.
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Ffmpeg XP x86 2018

[Peter S Kirk]

"EDIT: Someone made a new build of FFmpeg compatible with XP. This is his 
build (I didn't compile it and I have nothing to do with it, but I'm gonna 
share it to let you all know): 
http://rwijnsma.home.xs4all.nl/files/ffmpeg/ffmpeg-N-89661-ge45f7bc-win32-
static_legacy.7z
Edited April 7 [2018] by FranceBB"

https://msfn.org/board/topic/177308-ffmpeg-and-windows-xp-in-2017/

Downloaded, but not tested.

Anyone tested? Results?




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Re: no more hslv format ?

[Peter S Kirk]

Jim,

What ISP and plan is that?

On 30 Apr 2018 at 13:56, Jim web Jim web  wrote:

> I can avoid a 'cap' as I do all the fetching before the 9am start of our
> 'metered' period. 



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Re: Cannot play downloads from get_iplayer!

[Peter S Kirk]

Paul,

You say pvr plays .ts

Then: "The sound is fine (I combine the
video, audio and subtitle files using MKVMerge), but there is no video
at all."

Doesn't that result in a .mkv?

Have you tried:
1. rename .mkv to .mp4 - sometimes works
2. running .mkv through ffmpeg to change to .mp4

Cheers


On 18 Apr 2018 at 1:24, Paul Thornett Paul Thornett  
wrote:

> I have a BeyonWiz PVR which is connected to my PC wirelessly and which
> I use to play GIP downloads to my TV. Until hlshd became unavailable
> recently, I used the following GIP options:
>   subsmono = 1
>   tvmode = hlshd
>   raw = 1
> 
> This produced .ts and .srt files, which my PVR was ecstatic about and
> played supremely well (I think the .ts format is native to this PVR).
> 
> Since hlshd became unavailable, I have tried downloading with:
>   --tvmode = best (results in dvfxsd1)
>   --tvmode=dvfsd1
>   --tvmode=dvfhd1 --fps50
> with and without --raw.
> 
> The result is the same, regardless of my command line. I get the
> downloaded files OK. All of them can be played on my PC using VLC.
> But none of them plays using my PVR. The sound is fine (I combine the
> video, audio and subtitle files using MKVMerge), but there is no video
> at all.
> 
> I realize I can do a transcode with Handbrake, and that will probably
> work. But why am I having this problem? Is there anything else I could
> try (I really don't want to  reduce the bitrate any more if I can help
> it)?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul Thornett


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Re: PVR Cache Refresh Broken

[Peter Scott]

On 15-04-2018 15:34, CJB wrote:

Completely filed for all t.v. listings. OK for radio. CJB.



This morning, I posted the following to a thread.  I should have started 
a new one.




Things have already started changing.  I tried to get:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week

and was re-directed "Permanently" to:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7j/this_week

I sometimes think the BBC doesn't want people to use anything other than 
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Re: BBC JSON feeds to be discontinued from 1st May

[Peter Scott]

On 15-04-2018 10:06, RS wrote:


dinky has replied in the forum with this comment.
https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/thread-1749-post-7639.html#pid7639


Things have already started changing.  I tried to get:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week

and was re-directed "Permanently" to:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7j/this_week

I sometimes think the BBC doesn't want people to use anything other than 
smartphones.


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Re: BBC JSON feeds to be discontinued from 1st May

[Peter Scott]

On 13-04-2018 20:54, RS wrote:

On 13/04/18 18:21, tellyaddict wrote:

Thanks Peter.
The question is though, once the JSON feeds do go, where will GiP get 
the VPIDs from? It needs these to access the playlists to start a 
download? Will GiP have to start scraping iPlayer programme pages to 
get these?



I didn't know JSON feeds were still available.  I updated my getPids
script to use the HTML feeds some time ago.  It still works; you can get
it here:

   https://github.com/cmsps/getPids


I thought get_iplayer was already doing that, and the reason for the 
upgrade to v3.13 recently was that the format of the HTML programme 
pages had changed.  Have I misunderstood?


Best wishes
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I thought that too.  I had to update getPids when the HTML changed just 
before v3.13 came out.


As far as I remember, I had to switch to the HTML feeds when the first 
of the JSON feeds disappeared.


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Re: BBC JSON feeds to be discontinued from 1st May

[Peter Scott]

On 13-04-2018 09:38, Owen Smith wrote:

I assume it will still be possible to download by PID, but that means using the 
iPlayer web site to find the PID for the programme. Not great.



I didn't know JSON feeds were still available.  I updated my getPids 
script to use the HTML feeds some time ago.  It still works; you can get 
it here:


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Re: 3.06 and 25fps/50fps modes

[Peter Corlett]

On Mon, Nov 06, 2017 at 11:15:03PM +0100, chrisch...@free.fr wrote:
> if that can be of any help, having to use a VPN, I have encountered the
> problem of the unavailability of hls definitions with some vpn connections
> and not others

> why that should be I ' d like to know!

The BBC make efforts to detect VPN connections because they may have originated
from overseas, and these will get blocked from accessing iPlayer TV services.
It takes a few moments for a newly-added block to take full effect, during
which it looks like a partial or broken service.


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Re: http:// vs https://

[Peter Corlett]

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 08:57:29AM +0200, cc wrote:
> the address of progs seem to have changed  from
> http:// to   ie
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b098thgb/panorama-hate-on-the-street
> deleting the s works fine but for how long ?
> thanks

You don't need to delete the "s"; just install LWP::Protocol::https to enable
https support. This will also fix a few other silent failures inside
get_iplayer that you might not have noticed yet.

(I say "just install", but it might be a nightmare on Windows. Everything else
is...)


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Re: recording quality and vpn

[Peter Corlett]

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 02:24:54PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> On 27/08/2017 14:18, cc wrote:
[...]
>> can the use of a vpn limit the number of recording qualities available?
>> Although I managed to get1280.x720 def on 25 aug with - -tvdefault in the
>> command line, it is now proving impossible for the various downloads I have
>> tried.
> Only if the BBC are deliberately breaking it for customers of your VPN
> provider.

The BBC now also appears to use an automagic traffic fingerprinting system that
detects likely VPNs and adds the egress IP address to the "not UK" bucket for a
short while. It takes a moment to kick in, which results in the observed
symptoms of get_iplayer initally appearing to work, and then breaking.

The simple and obvious fix is to drop the VPN when using iPlayer, unless one is
not in the UK in which case the system is working correctly :)


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Re: World Service podcast bit rates

[Peter Corlett]

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 05:31:23PM +0100, Simon Morgan wrote:
> Oh for get_iplayer when I was sailing around the Indian Ocean in the early
> '60s. Shortwave radio was the only option whether for speech or even "music".
> I still mourn the day the World Service dropped its ident tune which was
> essential to tune into the news broadcasts. [...]

As you probaby know, the World Service theme is a rendition of /Lilliburlero/.
If you want a burst of nostalgia, the Wikipedia page at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillibullero has many recordings, including
several off-air and a nice clean stero version of the one used by the World
Service.

> As Vangelis has said, 96kps is more than adequate for speech and I can't
> recall when I last listened to music on the World Service (used to be call
> Overseas Service or something like that I seem to remember).

Not everybody perceives and comprehends speech the same way; it is known that
people on the autistic spectrum have difficulties separating speech from
background noise even when they have otherwise excellent hearing, for example.
At low bitrates, high-frequency components are mangled by MP3, introducing
errors that manifest themselves as sibilance, pitch shifts, and in extremis an
electronic "chattering" in the background which can be quite distracting.

If your hearing and brain are able to filter out the artifacts, well, good for
you. Others aren't so lucky and need higher-bitrate audio to be able to hear
and enjoy it properly. The BBC presumably agree, given they now make 320kb/s
audio available.

> Notwithstanding some of the rather boring spats on this list, thank goodness
> for the author(s) of get_iplayer which I find I find indispensible. The
> niceties of the programming language are of no interest to me as I am stuck
> in the world of Fortran IV and Fortran 77.

Fortran? Perl is the fuddy-duddy language that the kids all poke fun at these
days :)

> Dinkypumpkin et al keep up the good work.

Seconded!


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Re: No .xml - what is work-around?

[Peter S Kirk]

On 28 Apr 2017 at 0:23, J K.Eason J K.Eason <m...@john-eason.co.uk> wrote:

> > *From:* Peter S Kirk 
> > *To:* get_iplayer <get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org>
> > *Date:* Fri, 28 Apr 2017 00:13:46 +0100
> > 
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08nx197
> > 
> > WARNING: Could not download programme metadata from 
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08nx197.xml
> > ERROR: Failed to get version pid metadata from iplayer site'
> > 
> > Any solution?
> 
> https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/announcement-23.html
> 
> -- 
> Regards
>John

John,

Thank you.

Peter

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Python script to get PIDs from schedules

[Peter Scott]

Expecting the XML and json schedules to disappear again, I re-wrote my getPids
script to use the HTML versions.  This time it is in Python so it works with 
windows
too.  You can get it from here:

 http://peterscott.eu/freeScripts/#getPids

I hope people find it useful.

Peter

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Re: Strange email - from "Fred Flange"

[Peter S Kirk]

On 14 Apr 2017 at 23:18, Kevin Lynch Kevin Lynch <klyn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Guys
> 
> I got a strange email - my gmail decided it was spam. I don't
> recognise the senders name.
> 
> Here's a screenshot http://imgur.com/a/nbjRj
> 
> I don't understand the mailers point - does he mean he's objecting to
> the long in the subject mail
> 
> Apart from swearing at me on his first contact.
> 
> If he could explain to me his environment and why what I have done is
> causing him a problem - I would act differently
> 
> Kevin
> 

Kevin,

He's a troll - or drunk. Don't reply to (feed) him, ignore him.

It happens. We all receive abuse occasionally.

Peter


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Shell script to get PIDs from schedules (again)

[Peter Scott]

I've fixed it.

 http://peterscott.eu/freeScripts/getPids_html

appears to work for TV as well now.

Sorry I can't get these three posts to link.  I'm having trouble using gmail
to reply to the list.

Peter
-- 
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website: http://peterscott.eu
NB: My mobile is a "not at home" phone; I don't hear or see it at home.

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Shell script to get PIDs from schedules (again)

[Peter Scott]

I spoke too soon!  It works for radio three and four, maybe others but not TV.

Peter
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Shell script to get PIDs from schedules (again)

[Peter Scott]

Amazingly my old screen-scraping script still works!

You can get it here:

 http://peterscott.eu/freeScripts/getPids_html

Peter
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Re: BBC Licensing Expose

[Peter S Kirk]

On 28 Feb 2017 at 22:40, michael norman michael norman 
 wrote:

> Best thing might be not to post links from the Mail which hates the BBC 
> to a pro BBC list. As others have said the Mail is not a reliable source 
> for anything.

The Mail is a reliable source for news BBC/Grun refuse to report and for 
Investigative Journalism such as this Capita behaviour story. Previous 
include Charity fund raising extortion.

To dismiss everything in DM as "fake news", "right-wing", "extremist" is as 
nonsensical as stating every article in The Grun is true facts.

Don't forget DM editor was pro Brexit, Mail On Sunday editor was pro 
Remain.

If DM/MoS were as bad/fake as so many claim they would be bust rather than 
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Re: BBC Licensing Expose

[Peter Corlett]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 09:04:41AM +, Colin Law wrote:
> A bonus of £15000 for catching 28 evaders at £145.50 (total £4074) doesn't
> sound very likely.

That's £15,000 per *year* for catching 28 evaders *per week* (total £211,848),
or about £10.30 per extra licence collected in this manner.

> I don't see there are any implications for anyone obeying the law.

Apart from those who don't have a TV Licence because they don't require one,
but who still get regular harassment from TV Licensing. I had to call the
police to get the last one to leave.


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Re: v2.97 with sensible TV download sizes?

[Peter S Kirk]

Top post quick reply:
mode flashhigh or flashhd maybe?

I too want 640, 702, 832 not 1024

On 2 Oct 2016 at 16:01, Sharon Kimble Sharon Kimble 
 wrote:

> 
> I'm currently using v2.94 as it is the only version that I have
> available to me that gets sensible download sizes, by this I mean that
> 'Ambulance' is 651.8mb. I would use 2.97 if I could only train it to get
> sensible file sized download sizes, but how please?
> 
> This is my 'config' file -
> 
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> outputtv /mnt/backc/progs
> outputradio /mnt/backb/Music/beeb
> type radio,tv
> fileprefix ---
> tvmode=hvfstd
> radiomode=good
> versionlist default
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
> 
> When I've tried 2.97 it only seems to download 1gb+ sized files, which
> is much too big for my needs. I don't need, or want, a full-screen
> display as its only ever watched on this computer, but how can I do it
> please?
> 
> I've looked at 'https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/modes'
> and also
> 'https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/modesref#tv-modes' but
> I'm still unable to get a sensible download size with 2.97.
> 
> Can anyone help with a 'tvmode' for my config file that works to fulfil
> my requirements please?
> 
> Thanks
> Sharon.
> -- 
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> TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
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Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

[Peter Corlett]

On Sat, Oct 01, 2016 at 03:40:19PM +0100, Tony Quinn wrote:
[...]
> Given how poorly minority genres of music are covered by the meainstram
> channels (ONE hour of folk music on Radio 2 per week), some local radio
> stations have essential listening.

You don't say *which* "minority genre", but some of that stuff inexplicably
ends up on Radios 3 and 4, much to the annoyance of people who were expecting
classical music, and no music. I still remember the green-ink letters about
Anderson Country.


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Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

[Peter Corlett]

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 12:02:55PM +0100, Jim web wrote:
> RS  wrote:
[...]
>> At present the BBC's attitude seems to be that if your Smart TV is more than
>> 2 years old that's tough; they can't be bothered to support it.
> I wish people wouldn't keep trotting out this misrepresentation here. It has
> been dealt with in the past.

> It is the responsibility of the *vendor* of closed commerial items to ensure
> what you buy works as it should. They may 'subcontract' that to the makers,
> who in turn may commission someone else to deal with it.

> The BBC try to give info well in advance to makers and those who offer 'smart
> TV' boxes. Its then their job to handle it. Not the BBC's.

I must disagree.

The BBC has historically maintained broadcasting in standards long after they
had become obsolete. BBC2 launched in the new 625 line service in 1964 and the
BBC had internally migrated everything to this new standard by 1969. The BBC
maintained a downconverted 405 line service until 1985. It was supposedly only
scrapped because they needed to bring the service down for maintenance for a
while, and received no complaints.

DAB was invented in 1990 and used the best codec available at the time. Sadly,
it's not very good. Even now, the BBC still maintain that they can't replace
the service with something that doesn't sound like an old longwave receiver in
a fishpond because of all the legacy receivers. (There are better standards:
DRM started broadcasting in 2003 and is only used by the World Service, DAB+
has been around for about ten years but is still only in the trial stage in the
UK.)

But when it comes to "smart" devices, apparently a couple of years notice is
sufficient. The BBC's assumption is perhaps that the functionality is in
software and can be updated, but if so, it's very much mistaken. There are two
reasons, which I'll call "won't" and "can't":

The "won't" is that it's been obvious for many years that manufacturers of
consumer electronics almost never release updated versions of software for
devices. Not only smart TVs, but Android phones, toys, and whatnot. Users also
never get round to applying the updates even if they are available. Even as
somebody who has a good understanding of this stuff, I am still rather wary of
applying firmware updates to devices that are out of warranty and cannot be
returned if the update bricks them.

The "can't" is that while many functions are software-defined, there is still a
hardware component, and the hardware may not be powerful enough to support the
new service. They're not faulty and will work indefinitely while the service is
still being broadcast. It's the decision of the broadcasters to suspend the
service that's the problem.

The BBC needs to provide parallel-running of both the legacy standard and the
shiny new standard for at least the expected lifetime of the receivers, and two
years is nowhere near enough. In the case of 405-line service, it was at least
16 years.


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Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

[Peter S Kirk]

On 29 Sep 2016 at 8:11, CJB CJB  wrote:

> I predict a huge rise in torrenting and seedboxes next year ...

I have access to a 1Gbs VPS which can be used for torrenting were a torrent 
client installed. According to others, it could be used to download movies 
and all manner of things from TPB, YIFY(v2) etc.

Happy to provide a service if some of the monthly costs are donated.

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Re: BBC iPlayer login will be required from 2017

[Peter S Kirk]

On 28 Sep 2016 at 15:05, Jim web Jim web  wrote:

> In article <427BC14D94A04F7A88642EAF344B9F15@RJCDESK>, RS
>  wrote:
> > My television does not even call itself a Smart TV, but it does support
> > DLNA.
> 
> FWIW I always have recommended that people buy a TV with an HDMI input
> and then feed that from a computer. This frees you from relying on the
> firmware, etc, installed by the TV makers. The media players I've seen on
> TVs are lousy compared with what you can install for yourself on a
> computer. Far from 'smart'. More like 'shovel something on so we can tick
> the box in the list of claimed feature - although I guess there will be
> exceptions.
> 
> I fetch items with gip. Play them with VLC. Update things as and when I
> decide.
> 
> I don't need to know anything about DLNA either. I just play stuff from HDs
> or NAS as files.
> 
> Jim

"I fetch items with gip. Play them with VLC. Update things as and when I
decide."

+1 Same here


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Re: License question

[Peter S Kirk]

On 2 Sep 2016 at 12:23, Larry Yaeger Larry Yaeger <l...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:13 AM, michael norman <michaeltnor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The licence fee is cheap.
> 
> I so sincerely wish I could pay the license fee.  I'm an unwilling moocher 
> from the US that would joyfully be a
> subscriber if they would only let me.  I've been watching British telly since 
> it was radio.  I dearly love the Goons. 
> Actually met Spike Milligan and Harry Secombe, at a do in Brighton.  And I 
> could go on for pages and pages of the
> British programming I've enjoyed over the years.  I buy DVDs over here.  I've 
> bought tons of PAL VHS tapes and Region 2
> DVDs in London over the 40+ years I've been visiting as often as possible, 
> which required buying multi-standard
> players.  I would and do happily "vote with my dollars" for Auntie Beeb, and 
> agree she is the best single source of
> television programming on the planet.  I've spent a lot of time in London, 
> including a year on sabbatical, but I've
> never managed to actually move there.  Anybody need a strong computer 
> programmer on that side of the pond? :)
> 
> That said, I find the pejorative, condescending tone of some posters about 
> non-subscribers offensive.  It's corporate
> and political bureaucracy that prevents me from paying for my BBC 
> programming, not anything I have control over.  And
> if it bothers you that I watch this brilliant programming, well good.  
> Suffer.  You're just being a prig, and you
> deserve the angst.  That's my 2p.
> 
> - larryy

Good post.

Peter

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Re: License question

[Peter Corlett]

On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 03:01:44PM +0100, Chris Marriott wrote:
[...]
> The fact that the original poster used the American English spelling
> "license", rather than the British English "licence", suggests to me that he
> is not resident in the UK, and therefore does not actually require a licence.

You're reading far too much into that. Not everybody is familiar with this
bizarre edge case of spelling, and loads of people get it wrong.

The sender is almost certainly in the UK, because if they were not, they'd have
seen a message along the lines of "iPlayer is not accessible from outside the
UK" instead.


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Re: Audio/Video Out of Sync

[Peter S Kirk]

On 15 Aug 2016 at 18:35, tellyaddict tellyaddict  
wrote:

> > OK, I think this thread has now ran it's course. Enough of the
> > speculation and OT chatter.
> 
> I have to disagree.
> 
> I don't think this is OT. This is a current problem with the current version 
> of GiP that we are trying to work out.
> 
> > The workaround for most users is to use the old flash streams --modes=flash

I'm still using V2.94 and no sync problems.

Is the audio out by a constant time (eg 0.3 secs) in a programme?

I haven't been following this thread.

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Re: Is this list redundant?

[Peter Selley]

I totally agree. The list has been invaluable for me (and my family)
in terms of technical information when there are periodical changes. I
am deeply grateful for the expert help out there, the technical work
put in to keep the project going and the free and open source ethos
behind it all.

On 16 May 2016 at 21:32, Colin Law  wrote:
> On 16 May 2016 at 20:14, Jon Davies  wrote:
>> On 16 May 2016 at 19:32, David Woodhouse  wrote:
>>> Is there still a benefit to having this list at all? Would we be better
>>> off shutting it down entirely?
>>
>> while there's some rubbish on this list, there are still valid support
>> questions being raised and an email list suits some people better than
>> others.
>
> Absolutely, I find the list very valuable and greatly appreciate the
> work done to make it available.  Many times I have derived useful
> knowledge from here, and would very much miss it if it were no more.
>
> Colin
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Re: Offtopic noise: Re: BBC iPlayer viewers now need a...

[Peter S Kirk]

Top posting.

Ready made OT chat group here:
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On 16 May 2016 at 19:32, David Woodhouse David Woodhouse 
<dw...@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 2016-05-14 at 00:38 +0100, Peter S Kirk wrote:
> > 
> > Stop the OT poltical campainging posts:
> > "Over 275,000 of us signed an emergency petition to keep the BBC
> > independent"
> > 
> > List is for GiP discussion and help ONLY.
> > 
> > Respect that and take politics elsewhere.
> 
> I have barred that thread, although I don't generally favour censorship
> as a solution to anything.
> 
> However... it seems that this list is mostly used these days for
> offtopic crap, and for technical queries which get referred to the
> forums.
> 
> Is there still a benefit to having this list at all? Would we be better
> off shutting it down entirely?
> 
> Likewise the git repository on git.infradead.org - if development is
> happening on github, there's no point in just mirroring it here, is
> there? I was happy to provide services (and even try to learn a bit of
> perl) when Phil Lewis bowed out, but it now seems that there's a fairly
> capable community around it and it's not clear what benefit I continue
> to provide...
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Re: BBC iPlayer viewers now need a TV licence to watch to catch up with their favourite shows

[Peter S Kirk]

On 16 May 2016 at 16:01, Geoff Smith Geoff Smith  
wrote:

> Do we not have a moderator who can put a stop to the verbal diarrhoea
> of this off-topic thread?
> At very least, will the perpetrators please take it off-group!
> 
> Geoff Smith

Here, here.

Chris - list owner: Please make this OT stop.

Cheers

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Re: Audio and video gradually go out of sync

[Peter S Kirk]

On 20 Apr 2016 at 8:00, Nick Payne Nick Payne <nick.pa...@internode.on.net> 
wrote:

> I've been downloading the daily highlight packages from the BBC coverage 
> of the World Snooker Championships 
> (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00b436n). The first two episodes 
> play without any problem, but the audio and video on the Day 3 program 
> gradually get out of sync as the program progresses - they're in sync at 
> the start, but by the end of the 50 minutes of the program, the audio is 
> about half a dozen seconds in advance of the video. Has anyone else 
> downloaded the day 3 highlights - if so, did the video and audio stay in 
> sync? At the moment I don't know whether this is a problem with the GiP 
> processing at my end or with the download from the BBC. Using GiP 2.94 
> on Windows.
> 
> Nick

Nick,

Vangelis forthnet has given detailed answer.

My answer is: live with it - VLC has hasten/delay audio & subs.

Peter

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Re: Request for BBC Contact - OT

[Peter S Kirk]

All,

Please cease this OT thread which has nothing to do with GiP.

Politics is not relevant here, take it elsewhere.

Thanks

On 6 Apr 2016 at 12:29, David Lake (dlake) David Lake (dlake) 
 wrote:

> Sorry - by muppets at the top I meant Dodgy Dave and his chums, not the Beeb.
> 
> I have many arguments with the U.K. government.   Having endured a lower 
> quality of life in the US, I hate the way that we are aping that failed 
> society and the way that they are taking it out on excellent public services 
> such as the Beeb, the NHS, schools, etc.
> 
> Wow.   Seriously OT!


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Re: Setting Locale in UK

[Peter Corlett]

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 09:56:26PM -, Peter S Kirk wrote:
[...]
> Set the page to reload every x mins, then when "Watch now" appears, start
> GiP. Some programmes take days, and sometimes even weeks, to become
> available.

I use a really grotty shell script that polls every day or so for programmes
matching a list of regular expressions, so it catches them eventually. It keeps
me nicely fed and watered with Radio 4 comedies that are broadcast while I'm
out. I am very much liking the new 320kb/s streams as the old 128kb/s streams
were sometimes poorly-encoded and had unpleasant sibilance that distracted from
the programmes.

> Copy.com closes May 2016 - backup files elsewhere. I have ~700GB on copy.com
> Free. Any suggestions where to move the files to, preferably free.

Acquire a cheap HP Microserver and some disks, and install FreeNAS or similar.
It'll set you back a couple of hundred upfront, but will last a few years and
you won't need to worry about hopping between unprofitable services all the
time.

Alternatively, it's probably time to decide which of that 700GB of data you
actually want to keep.


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Re: Setting Locale in UK

[Peter S Kirk]

On 15 Mar 2016 at 2:23, Vangelis forthnet Vangelis forthnet 
 wrote:

> "This programme will be available soon". 

That is always worth looking for on Programme Website page before posting a 
Why can't I download".

Set the page to reload every x mins, then when "Watch now" appears, start 
GiP.

Some programmes take days, and sometimes even weeks, to become available.

PS:

Copy.com closes May 2016 - backup files elsewhere.

I have ~700GB on copy.com Free. Any suggestions where to move the files 
to, preferably free.



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Re: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.

[Peter S Kirk]

On 16 Feb 2016 at 22:40, Dennis Smith Dennis Smith  
wrote:

> Parliament TV has almost
> no viewers and continues to run without interruption.

Costs very little.

BBC3, BBC Alba and the many other local and national BBC radio cost a lot. 
imho Alba and all UK Radio except R4 and maybe R2 should be stopped and let 
private sector provide alternaives.

Sorry, this is OT GiP and should be on a GiP chat group.




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Re: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.

[Peter S Kirk]

On 17 Feb 2016 at 15:18, David Cantrell David Cantrell 
<da...@cantrell.org.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:00:49PM -0000, Peter S Kirk wrote:
> 
> > BBC4 used to be offer a reasonable range of programmes, but last year or so 
> > it has degenerated to arty Yentob type rubbish.
> 
> Tonight's schedule:
> 
> World news today
> Grand tours of Scotland
> Horizon
> The Bermuda triangle
> The boy in the striped pyjamas
> Horizon (again)
> Timeshift
> Dancing in the blitz
> Good swan bad swan: dancing Swan Lake
> 
> they're doing a f***ing awful job of "arty Yentob type rubbish" there.
> Looks to me like a fairly decent selection of different genres of
> informative Stuff with some decent quality entertainment as well. I
> expect that if any of that is an utter stinker it'll be the Bermuda
> triangle thing, which isn't exactly "arty Yentob type" stuff even if it
> does turn out to be rubbish.

Perhaps I should have included the word "New" in
>> a reasonable range of "New" programmes

Show some manners and do not post expletives.



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Re: GiP mp4s and Panasonic PVR

[Peter S Kirk]

On 23 Nov 2015 at 14:39, Nick Payne Nick Payne 
<nick.pa...@internode.on.net> wrote:

> On 23/11/2015 6:28 AM, Peter S Kirk wrote:
> > On 22 Nov 2015 at 22:42, Nick Payne Nick Payne
> > <nick.pa...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I recently purchased a Panasonic DMR-HWT250 PVR, which can also function
> >> as a DLNA client - I run Serviio on my PC as the server. I can use the
> >> DLNA client on the PVR to play MP4s I create myself, but if I try to
> >> play any of the MP4s downloaded by GiP, I just get a "Please wait"
> >> message on the TV screen and the file never starts playing.
> >>
> >> I re-encoded a couple of the GiP MP4s using VidCoder (which uses
> >> HandBrake as its encoding engine), and then copied the re-encoded MP4s
> >> over the ones downloaded by GiP, and those re-encoded MP4s play through
> >> the DLNA client without any problem...
> >>
> >> I'm running GiP 2.94 on Windows, and the command I use is just
> >>
> >> get_iplayer --pid= --modes=hlsbest
> >>
> >> Any suggestions on any command line options I can try to get around this
> >> problem?
> > Try running the mp4 through mkvtoolnix, the conversion to mkv seems to
> > strip out a lot of the container info that iPlayer and GiP add.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion. I found that adding the --mkv command line 
> option to GiP created an mkv output file directly that the DLNA client 
> in the PVR played without any problem.
> 

Nick,

Thanks for confirming the mkv container worked.

Thanks too for sharing the --mkv command line option which I did not know 
about.

Cheers,

Peter

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Re: GiP mp4s and Panasonic PVR

[Peter S Kirk]

On 22 Nov 2015 at 22:42, Nick Payne Nick Payne 
 wrote:

> I recently purchased a Panasonic DMR-HWT250 PVR, which can also function 
> as a DLNA client - I run Serviio on my PC as the server. I can use the 
> DLNA client on the PVR to play MP4s I create myself, but if I try to 
> play any of the MP4s downloaded by GiP, I just get a "Please wait" 
> message on the TV screen and the file never starts playing.
> 
> I re-encoded a couple of the GiP MP4s using VidCoder (which uses 
> HandBrake as its encoding engine), and then copied the re-encoded MP4s 
> over the ones downloaded by GiP, and those re-encoded MP4s play through 
> the DLNA client without any problem...
> 
> I'm running GiP 2.94 on Windows, and the command I use is just
> 
> get_iplayer --pid= --modes=hlsbest
> 
> Any suggestions on any command line options I can try to get around this 
> problem?
> 
> Nick

Try running the mp4 through mkvtoolnix, the conversion to mkv seems to 
strip out a lot of the container info that iPlayer and GiP add.

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Re: Requests For Features

[Peter S Kirk]

On 26 Sep 2015 at 17:07, Budgie Budgie  wrote:

> Had a few moments to sort out my flv downloads.  There are quite a few, 
> all with long complex titles with meaningless reference numbers which 
> make them difficult to type without error so I tried a wee batch file 
> based on your advice to run in the directory with all the flv files as 
> follows:-
> 
> for file in *.flv ; do ffmpeg -i $file -c copy -f mp4 ${file%.flv}.mp4 ; 
> done
> 
> This seems to work OK but if you can suggest improvements please do. 
> Meanwhile I have a couple of naive questions:-
> 
> The mp4 files are all about 3 MiB smaller (in 1.0 GiB). Why is that?

Different containers store different meta data in different ways. Use the 
same command to convert an mkv to mp4 and the mp4 is larger.

> 
> When running the script I get the following comments for each file 
> converted:-
> 
> [mp4 @ 0x22d38e0] Codec for stream 0 does not use global headers but 
> container format requires global headers
> [mp4 @ 0x22d38e0] Codec for stream 1 does not use global headers but 
> container format requires global headers
> 
> This omission does not appear fatal but what is going on?

A quick google shows: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/ticket/3142
 
> BTW Thanks again for all your help.
> Regards,
> Budge



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Re: Channel 4

[Peter S Kirk]

On 15 Sep 2015 at 6:47, CJB CJB  wrote:

> Sorry to break the rules. Any ideas how I can download this programme please:
> 
> http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/channel-4-commemorates-battle-of-britain-with-aerial-spectacular
> 
> Channel 4 announces a unique celebration of the heroes who saved
> Britain from Nazi invasion.
> 
> 1 x 90TM documentary on Sunday 13th September " Battle of Britain: The
> Last of the Few (w/t)
> 
> CJB

You can't. Stream is encrypted. TPB etc is only option.


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Re: Inconsistencies

[Peter S Kirk]

On 29 Aug 2015 at 12:06, Alan Milewczyk Alan Milewczyk 
a...@soulman1949.com wrote:

 I wonder, Jim, whether this is part of the general inconsistency we've 
 commented on previously - where sometimes you download a file and it's 
 not the usual 1280x720 norm, but you go back a few days later and the 
 higher definition file downloads. I've found this to be the case when 
 specifying --tvmode=best whereas --modes=hlsvhigh gets the 1280x720 
 version when it's available. Is it a case of server loading?

I think it is due to the BBC activating the Watch now on iplayer before 
all versions/formats are available on the CDNs.

Example: last Sunday I started downloading the F1 full race coverage less 
than 1 min. after it became available. First few tries it was always 
640x360.

Gave up and waited a few minutes then tried again. Now best was 702x4xx. 
Tried again every few minutes and 896x504 appeared 16 minutes after Watch 
now was available. 896x504 was the one I wanted, thus don't know when the 
1280 was ready.

I've also noticed over the past few months subtitles for live F1 events 
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loss of podcast feeds?

[Peter Selley]

Is anyone else having problems getting podcast feeds at the moment?
(or have I missed something in the changes in recent months)
Currently this is what I get on linux mint xfce 17.2


get_iplayer --type=podcast
get_iplayer v2.93, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
  This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details use --warranty.
  This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain
  conditions; use --conditions for details.

INFO: Getting podcast Index Feeds
.

INFO: 0 Matching Programmes

thanks
Peter S

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RE: Requests For Features (off topic)

[Peter S Kirk]

Please stop the OT discussing of RTMP download of non BBC channels.

This list is for help and discussion of GiP only.

If it is OT take it off list and communicate directly.

On 11 Aug 2015 at 21:50, C E Macfarlane C E Macfarlane 
c.e.macfarl...@macfh.co.uk wrote:

 See below ...
 
 www.macfh.co.uk/CEMH.html
 
  Snipped from
  http://lists.infradead.org/removed
 
  I managed to get this working on Vista32, thanks, but not on
  a fresh install of Mint 17.2.
 
  May I ask what Linux you're using?
 
 XUbuntu 13, or perhaps 14, can't remember which without booting up the PC.
 
  Also, did you try Channel 5?
 
 No.  AIUI from the original thread, Ch 4  Ch 5 are encrypted, and can't be
 downloaded in this way.
 
  there's nothing worth watching anyway!
 
  Agreed, beyond that Joanna Lumley documentary.
 
 There's Clockwise, it it's still there ...
 


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Re: Region blocking?

[Peter S Kirk]

Apologies everyone, my mistake. Some brain fade aka blond moment here. Must 
be the hot weather - it hit 19C here in Edinburgh today.

On 9 Aug 2015 at 20:47, Peter S Kirk Peter S Kirk peter.k...@isauk.biz 
wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Would someone in UK - but not in Scotland - please check if this is 
 available to watch:
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b065ylqd
 
 Thanks

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Re: Coast issues

[Peter S Kirk]

On 9 Aug 2015 at 12:52, Charlie Heard Charlie Heard 
charliehe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just come back off holiday, and I'm trying to catch up on things. I'm
 getting errors trying to get the latest Coast episodes 4  5.
 
 I ran the PVR download, and it completed Coast very quickly - the file was
 tiny. I've tried running it from the command line in Win7x64, and it starts
 fine. It will download for several seconds at 1.4Mb, then it will slow to a
 crawl, timeout, restart a few times and then crash rtmpdump. Sometimes it
 gets to 15%, sometimes to 1%. If I close get_iplayer  while it's retrying, I
 can get it do download several more percent at high speed before slowing
 again. In this way, I managed to get close to 40%.
 
 I've tried downloading the latest Windows install and reinstalling
 get_iplayer and rtmpdump, even though they were up to date. An example log
 is below. I originally tried with mode=best, and changed it to see if that
 cured it. 
 
 Does anyone have any ideas why it should be behaving like this after a week
 away?
 

4 and 5 both worked here

INFO: File name prefix = Coast_Series_10_-
_4._The_Irish_Sea_b06451nm_default

RTMPDump v2.4
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
Starting download at: 0.000 kB
INFO: Metadata:
INFO:   duration  3559.08
INFO:   moovPosition  36.00
INFO:   width 832.00
INFO:   height468.00
   
video:609957kB audio:40607kB subtitle:0 data:0 global headers:0kB muxing 
overhead 0.355769%
INFO: Recorded C:\.\Coast_Series_10_-
_4._The_Irish_Sea_b06451nm_default.mp4

Progress: 99%
 Finished writing to temp file.
Recording complete


INFO: File name prefix = Coast_Series_10_-_5._Wild_Waters_b0650stg_default 

RTMPDump v2.4
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
Starting download at: 0.000 kB
INFO: Metadata:
INFO:   duration  3563.04
INFO:   moovPosition  36.00
INFO:   width 832.00
INFO:   height468.00

frame=89076 fps=4084 q=-1.0 Lsize=  653606kB time=00:59:23.02 
bitrate=1502.7kbits/s
video:610636kB audio:40652kB subtitle:0 data:0 global headers:0kB muxing 
overhead 0.355988%

Progress:  99%
 Finished writing to temp file.
INFO: Episode-only pid detected

Recording complete

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Region blocking?

[Peter S Kirk]

Hi,

Would someone in UK - but not in Scotland - please check if this is 
available to watch:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b065ylqd

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Re: Requests For Features

[Peter S Kirk]

On 23 Jul 2015 at 21:56, Colin Law Colin Law clan...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 23 July 2015 at 09:59, Jim web w...@audiomisc.co.uk wrote:
  ...
  FWIW I tend to use this to 'snip' files
 
  ffmpeg -ss hh:mm:ss -i infile.ext -acodec copy -vcodec copy -t
  hh:mm:ss output.ext
 
 You might occasionally find this gives strange effects at the start of
 the new file.  If you switch the options round so -i infile appears
 before -ss .. then it stops this happening.  I think putting them
 this way round makes sure it scans the input file from the start so
 that the first frames of the output file are complete, whereas with
 them the other way round it just jumps in at the start point which can
 lead to strange artefacts.  Something like that anyway.

Colin,

Useful info, thanks. If ffmpeg is starting the cut at the exact time if -ss 
before -i that implies it misses the necessary key frame. The arefcats 
are a result of frames between key frames only containing changes from 
previous frame.

I use mkvtoolnix to split videos - with much laborious altering of split 
time to find +/- ss key frame - then remux mkv back to mp4 through ffmpeg 
cli.

Is there any quick way to find key frame times?

Peter

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Re: Paywall for iPlayer?

[Peter S Kirk]

On 6 Jul 2015 at 20:18, Nic Siddle Nic Siddle nicsid...@gmail.com wrote:

 and isn't it odd that the supposed savings to the government of the 
 proposed requirement of the BBC to fund licences for the over 75's just 
 happens to be the cost of a single licence multiplied by the number of 
 over 75's? i.e., according to the Government, all over 75s live singly 
 and independently and all want to watch TV?  This is the government 
 doing the bidding of our non-dom newspaper and media owners.

I believe the cost figure is what the Treasury is paying TV Licensing based 
on the invoices received from TVL. Much the same as bus companies invoice 
for free travel for oldies. Furthermore, I'm sure there is a lot of abuse 
of the system where one member of an over 75 couple will allow a 
friend/relative to use their right to a free license.

Rather than promote conspiracy theories about non doms and media owners. 
direct your ire at the one eyed Scotch loon and his party who bribed 
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Re: Paywall for iPlayer?

[Peter S Kirk]

On 6 Jul 2015 at 21:34, michael norman michael norman 
michaeltnor...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 07/06/2015 09:13 PM, TQ wrote:
 
 
  On 06 July 2015 at 21:04 michael norman michaeltnor...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Rather than promote conspiracy theories about non doms and media
  owners.
  Direct your ire at the one eyed Scotch loon and his party who bribed
  electors with taxpayers' money.
 
  ___
  Oh dear this is really getting OT
 
  But just asking who the one eyed Scotch loon might be ?
 
  Mad Jock McBroon - the man who was so deluded that he claimed to have
  abolished boom and bust
 
 Ok Gordon Brown.  Forgive me but how does this help us with the present 
 attitude of our rulers towards the BBC.  All I said was that they are 
 ideologically opposed to public service, thats not a conspiracy theory 
 its what they are doing and intend to do.  Defending and advancing the 
 interests of media owners who are mainly non doms.  All of which is a 
 matter of public record.
 
 Osbourne [sic] has made it quite plain what his agenda is, most recently on 
 the Andrew Marr show on BBC last Sunday. On the public record.

Osborne's moving of funding the free licenses from taxpayer to BBC is a 
smart move. It means defending (imho the indefensible) or opposing free 
licenses for over 75s is an issue for the BBC: if the BBC want their money 
they can lobby for the end of McBroon's profligacy.

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Re: Embedded not downloading

[Peter S Kirk]

On 5 Jul 2015 at 4:23, Vangelis forthnet Vangelis forthnet 
northmed...@the.forthnet.gr wrote:

 On Sat Jul 4 22:32:39 BST 2015, Peter S Kirk wrote:
 
  INFO: Trying pid: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/4463
  (snip)
  ERROR: rtmp server sent error
  ERROR: rtmp server requested close
  INFO: Command exit code 1 (raw code = 256)
  (snip)
  INFO: skipping flashnormal1 mode
  ERROR: Failed to record
  (snip)
  Any suggestions to make download work?
 
 Hello Peter :-)
 
  Your log shows that the rtmpdump connection
 is rejected by the CDN's Flash Media Server
 and is typical of a message issued to someone
 trying to access a UK-only CDN server...
  However, this is naturally not the case with you!
 I added --verbose to the GiP command:
 
 perl 
 get_iplayer-294.pl --url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/4463; 
 --modes=best 
  --force --raw -v
 
 and from the verbose log I concluded that the connection
 is rejected by the server (cp45415.edgefcs.net) because
 GiP did not compose the correct rtmpdump command
 (for those in the know, the auth_token string
 was missing...).
 
 The solution to your predicament is fairly simple:
 just add --mediaselector=4 to your GiP command;
 GiP then uses another formula and this time
 issues the right rtmpdump command:
 
 perl 
 get_iplayer-294.pl --url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/4463; 
 --modes=best 
  --force --raw --mediaselector=4
 
 (snip)
 INFO: Trying pid: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/4463 using type: 
 tv
 INFO: Trying to stream pid using type tv
 INFO: pid not found in tv cache
 Matches:
 
 INFO: 1 Matching Programmes
 INFO: Checking existence of default version
 INFO: flashnormal1 modes will be tried for version default
 INFO: Trying flashnormal1 mode to record tv: Classic F1 - British Grand Prix 
 198
 1 - -
 INFO: File name prefix = 
 Classic_F1_-_British_Grand_Prix_1981_-__http_www.bbc.co
 .uk_sport_0_formula1_4463_default
 RTMPDump v2.4 GIT-2015-01-15 (Compiled by KSV)
 (c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
 Connecting ...
 INFO: Connected...
 Starting download at: 0.000 kB
 INFO: Metadata:
 INFO:   creationdateMon Jun 15 20:12:12 2009
 INFO:   duration403.30
 INFO:   framerate   25.00
 INFO:   height  288.00
 INFO:   lastkeyframetimestamp   402560.00
 INFO:   lasttimestamp   403303.00
 INFO:   On2 Technologies
 INFO:   width   512.00
 18152.568 kB / 403.30 sec (99.9%)
 Download complete
 
 flashnormal means this is a clip in the FLV container,
 where the elementary video stream is encoded with the
 On2 Technologies VP6 video codec  the elementary
 audio stream is encoded as MP3; your hardware media
 player may or may not be compatible with VP6...
 
 Cheers,
 Vangelis. 
 

Vangelis,

Thanks you. Your analysis and CLI suggestion worked. Used:
get_iplayer --url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/4463; --
modes=best  --force --raw --mediaselector=4

Hardware support for .flv VP6 playback is not a problem, it will be viewed 
on PC using VLC and also run through ffmpeg cli and mkvtoolnix for 
archiving and sharing with older UK resident family who are IT iliterate 
and have too slow connection to use iPlayer.

As others have said, thank you for your knowledgeable, detailed and 
informative answers to so many questions. It is very much appreciated by 
me.

Showing my age: If anyone has Cobol questions, PM me ;-)

God bless,

Peter (MBA, BSc, DipM)

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Embedded not downloading

[Peter S Kirk]

XP SP3 x86 GiP V2.94

INFO: Trying pid: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/4463 using 
type: tv
INFO: Trying to stream pid using type tv
INFO: pid not found in tv cache
Matches:

INFO: 1 Matching Programmes
INFO: Checking existence of default version
INFO: flashnormal1 modes will be tried for version default
INFO: Trying flashnormal1 mode to record tv: Classic F1 - British Grand 
Prix 1981 - -

INFO: File name prefix = Classic_F1_-_British_Grand_Prix_1981_-
__http_www.bbc.co.uk_sport_0_formula1_4463_default 

INFO: Subtitles not available
RTMPDump v2.4
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
ERROR: rtmp server sent error
ERROR: rtmp server requested close
INFO: Command exit code 1 (raw code = 256)
WARNING: Failed to stream file C:\iPlayer.Recordings\Classic_F1_-
_British_Grand_Prix_1981_-
__http_www.bbc.co.uk_sport_0_formula1_4463_default.partial.avi.flv via 
RTMP
INFO: skipping flashnormal1 mode
ERROR: Failed to record 'Classic F1 - British Grand Prix 1981 - - 
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/4463)'

Recording complete

Any suggestions to make download work?

Thanks, Peter

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Re: DOS PATH

[Peter S Kirk]

On 21 Jun 2015 at 17:28, CJB CJB chrisjbr...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I run the short cut from the Start menu - I get Web PVM Manager.
 That is how GiP was installed. I didn't know that there was a short
 cut for the Command Line version. I have
 been using get_iplayer for years on XP and Win 7 and never noticed it.

Chris,

Solution is simple: create a new shortcut and put it wherever you want.

Target %SystemRoot%\system32\cmd.exe

Start In C:\P\get_iplayer  **

** directory where GiP is installed

 I usually start the
 command line window from Start / Programs / Accessories - then change
 the directory manually using CD.. etc.

Why? imho easier and quicker to click Start, Run then type cmd Hit Enter 
key

Peter

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Re: DOS Path

[Peter S Kirk]

On 19 Jun 2015 at 2:13, CJB CJB chrisjbr...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK - thanks though. Huh - I'd forgotten that Pearl and other apps also
 would need to be in the PATH. I was just being lazy. Actually a friend
 of mine in the US is having difficulty working out how DOS commands
 work. He can use the Windows PVM OK, but for progs later than 7 days
 he needs to use the CML version of GiP. I have been trying to tell him
 how to do this - by emails and screenshots - but he seems to have a
 problem even using CD.. and CD \folder etc. This stuff is OK for me,
 heck I was brought up with DOS, but he's a Window GUI guy only!! CJB

Write a batch file for him that does all the CDs etc with pid(s) as %1 %2 
etc

Then he opens DOS CLI and types batchfilename pid1 pid2

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Re: GiP v2.93 / 2.94- snafus

[Peter S Kirk]

On 7 Jun 2015 at 4:24, Vangelis forthnet Vangelis forthnet 
northmed...@the.forthnet.gr wrote:

 On Thu Jun 4 21:40:56 BST 2015, M Clark wrote:
 
  cookies set by 127.0.0.1
  
  my address bar has http://localhost:1935/
  I just wish I could remember to back-up Firefox cookies 
  for when I accidently delete them.
 
  I simply use Piriform's CCleaner (freeware) to manage browser 
 cookies; supports IE, Firefox, Google Chrome, Opera. 
 You can set the cookies you don't want deleted 
 (e.g. cookies by localhost or ones set by other sites that 
 require you to log in) as exceptions and then CCleaner 
 will remove all cookies from all browsers but the ones you 
 specified in the exceptions list! It's very handy!
 Just a tip I use...

Plus 1 for that. I've been doing the same for years with auto-run at 
startup selected. Installed same set-up on mother's PC too.

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Re: Localhost not starting up ...

[Peter S Kirk]

On 6 Jun 2015 at 17:03, Owen Smith Owen Smith owen.sm...@cantab.net 
wrote:

 msmpeng.exe goes mad occasionally consuming 100% cpu, usually after scanning 
 the entire hard disc. A quick reboot of
 the machine fixes it without compromising security. Your fix leaves you wide 
 open, you have disabled your virus scanner
 unless you have others running. But that would mean you would have had 
 multiple running previously, which isn't a good
 idea either.
 
AV software is not needed if you are sensible. I have none installed on any 
PC and all are clean. I do a weekly scan with malwarebytes and if it finds 
anything it is invariably a pup. Monthly I run an online housecall or 
bitdefender scan - never found anything.

Scanning incoming email is not necessary either - even Microsoft has stated 
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Re: Localhost not starting up ...

[Peter S Kirk]

On 6 Jun 2015 at 16:41, CJB CJB chrisjbr...@gmail.com wrote:

 2/ an Abode Acrobat plugin for Chrome - two versions of which were
 running and both hogging 100% of the cpu. These have now been closed
 down.

Chrome has built in adobe plugins which are sometimes a problem:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/05/chrome_flash_plugin_power_drain/



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