Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On 08/05/2017 22:16, Vangelis forthnet wrote: On Mon May 8 17:44:09 BST 2017, Alan Milewczyk wrote: Must admit, I was amused by the reference to a video profile as "outgoing" - wonder what the introverted profiles are like? ;-) LOL - Cheers, Alan! Best laugh of the day for me! ;-) I dug out the v2.99 get_iplayer.pl file and tried that but got an ffmpeg error - I couldn't be bothered decoding what the error meant ... Are you sure it wasn't an rtmpdump error? It could have been, sorry, I don't recall now In GiP 3.00+, RTMP stream support (ergo flash modes) was removed, hence the same happened to the utility (RTMPdump) used to fetch those streams... Either way, you could've always posted that error here and hopefully a sympathetic soul (!) could have given it a look... Hehehe, true! But having said that, I had a stack of downloads I needed to sort out and this was a quick way to achieve that! If I get some time, I'll try again on this desktop (which has v3.01 installed) Take the best of care, Vangelis. You too, dear friend! Best wishes Alan --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On Mon May 8 17:44:09 BST 2017, Alan Milewczyk wrote: Must admit, I was amused by the reference to a video profile as "outgoing" - wonder what the introverted profiles are like? ;-) LOL - Cheers, Alan! Best laugh of the day for me! I dug out the v2.99 get_iplayer.pl file and tried that but got an ffmpeg error - I couldn't be bothered decoding what the error meant ... Are you sure it wasn't an rtmpdump error? In GiP 3.00+, RTMP stream support (ergo flash modes) was removed, hence the same happened to the utility (RTMPdump) used to fetch those streams... Either way, you could've always posted that error here and hopefully a sympathetic soul (!) could have given it a look... Take the best of care, Vangelis. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On 07/05/2017 23:46, Vangelis forthnet wrote: On Sun May 7 23:16:20 BST 2017, RS wrote: That mode does not appear in the list in the blog. Well spotted! It is meant for ipad, tablets and other mobile devices... And that same blog describes the "1280x720 at 25fps" video profile as "outgoing", so that pretty much answers the question posed by @tellyaddict as to why "there isn't a 720p 25fps hvf option"... Must admit, I was amused by the reference to a video profile as "outgoing" - wonder what the introverted profiles are like? ;-) I'm really disappointed to see that the HLS problems have returned, especially as 1280x720 25fps is my preferred mode of choice. I really think 50fps is a gross overkill for my requirements both in download times and the doubled storage space required. I dug out the v2.99 get_iplayer.pl file and tried that but got an ffmpeg error - I couldn't be bothered decoding what the error meant so I decided to uninstall v3.01 and reinstall v2.99 on my laptop. I've got into a routine of doing the downloads on my desktop with v3.01. When programmes download at 960x520 instead of the usual 1280x720 I do an --info on the offending files to see which modes are available and, where possible, try for flashhd on the laptop. Having said that I can confirm, as has already been mentioned, there are a number of programmes where both hlshd and flashhd are corrupted. I really hope that the BBC reinstate the 1280x720 25fps mode when they kill off flash. A --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On Sun, May 07, 2017 at 11:16:20PM +0100, RS wrote: > The BBC and other broadcasters transmit many films on HD satellite channels > at 1080i 25fps with AC3 sound at bit rates up to 9Mbit/s if my satellite > receiver is to be believed. I don't recall having seen any 50fps films > being broadcast. Why not, if increasing the frame rate yields greater > improvement than increasing resolution on large screens? I would presume that that's because the source material isn't available in anything approaching 50fps. -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive While researching this email, I was forced to carry out some investigative work which unfortunately involved a bucket of puppies and a belt sander -- after JoeB, in the Monastery ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On Sun May 7 22:13:42 BST 2017, tellyaddict wrote: Can Apple devices cope with HVF streams as they are HLS-based? Don't own one, but they should; the mediaselector API URLs for mediaset=apple-ipad-hls do include Video Factory streams: pid=b04w0fyz => vpid=b04w0fqv http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/b04w0fqv and look for service="stream-uk-mobile_streaming_concrete_combined_sd" (CDNs: Akamai, Limelight, Bidi) Is there a 720p 25fps HDS stream created by USP? No Have a nice week.. Vangelis. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On Sun May 7 23:16:20 BST 2017, RS wrote: That mode does not appear in the list in the blog. Well spotted! It is meant for ipad, tablets and other mobile devices... And that same blog describes the "1280x720 at 25fps" video profile as "outgoing", so that pretty much answers the question posed by @tellyaddict as to why "there isn't a 720p 25fps hvf option"... V. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
From: tellyaddict Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 10:21 PM So although there is only a 50fps 720p version produced by Video Factory, there is actually a 1080i stream which is 25fps but runs at 8000 kbps. Of course that >means though that it will still be significantly bigger than the 50fps 720p version. Around 3GB/hour? The BBC and other broadcasters transmit many films on HD satellite channels at 1080i 25fps with AC3 sound at bit rates up to 9Mbit/s if my satellite receiver is to be believed. I don't recall having seen any 50fps films being broadcast. Why not, if increasing the frame rate yields greater improvement than increasing resolution on large screens? Having seen the farce of the FLAC consultation, I am sceptical about the subjective assessments. Maybe the film makers' assessment is different from the BBC's. According to the get_iplayer wiki there is an HVF 540p25 mode which it calls HVFxsd, and I have used it. That mode does not appear in the list in the blog. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
> The BBC's rationale for video profiles is explained here. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2015-07-the-development-of-new-video-factory-profiles-for-bbc-iplayer > It is based on encoder performance for Strictly Come Dancing, East Enders > and Top Gear (presumably, given the date of the article, the Clarkson > version). So although there is only a 50fps 720p version produced by Video Factory, there is actually a 1080i stream which is 25fps but runs at 8000 kbps. Of course that means though that it will still be significantly bigger than the 50fps 720p version. Around 3GB/hour? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
> > HVF modes are processed by the BBC > > Actually, all DVF/HVF/DAF/HAF modes > (plus AdobeHDS streams for TV/Radio that > GiP does not support) are delegated to > "Unified Streaming Platform", a BBC partner: > > http://www.unified-streaming.com/news/bbc-extends-contract-unified-streaming >From Unified's website, it looks like what they supply is a webserver addon >that the BBC uses on their own output systems. So although DVF/HVF/DAF/HAF/HDS >are created using Unified Streaming Platform, they are still actually created >in house at the BBC. > USP do not produce any 720p25fps encodes, > I guess because the BBC do not ask them to... I think the BBC could set that up if they wanted but for some reason have decided not to at this stage. > When the RTMP streams are first terminated > (already announced), to be, no doubt, followed > by the "legacy" AppleHLS streams (HLS modes), > there'll be no way of getting 720p25fps... Hopefully by that point some form of 720p 25fps stream will have been added to the encoding job but who knows. Can Apple devices cope with HVF streams as they are HLS-based? Is there a 720p 25fps HDS stream created by USP? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
From: Vangelis forthnet Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 7:59 PM USP do not produce any 720p25fps encodes, I guess because the BBC do not ask them to... When the RTMP streams are first terminated (already announced), to be, no doubt, followed by the "legacy" AppleHLS streams (HLS modes), there'll be no way of getting 720p25fps... The BBC's rationale for video profiles is explained here. http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2015-07-the-development-of-new-video-factory-profiles-for-bbc-iplayer It is based on encoder performance for Strictly Come Dancing, East Enders and Top Gear (presumably, given the date of the article, the Clarkson version). ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On Sun May 7 12:56:29 BST 2017, tellyaddict wrote: I really don't know why there isn't a 720p 25fps hvf option though. Elsewhere, tellyaddict wrote: HVF modes are processed by the BBC Actually, all DVF/HVF/DAF/HAF modes (plus AdobeHDS streams for TV/Radio that GiP does not support) are delegated to "Unified Streaming Platform", a BBC partner: http://www.unified-streaming.com/news/bbc-extends-contract-unified-streaming USP do not produce any 720p25fps encodes, I guess because the BBC do not ask them to... When the RTMP streams are first terminated (already announced), to be, no doubt, followed by the "legacy" AppleHLS streams (HLS modes), there'll be no way of getting 720p25fps... V. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
Unfortunately I have also found a number of programmes where both hlshd and
flashhd are corrupted.
I totally agree that the flash modes should not have been axed from GiP while
they are still available. Mainly because there is no alternative 720p 25fps
stream available in hvf. And with neither 25fps HD option working, I either
have to go for hvfsd and accept that the BBC's idea of HD will do, or go with
720p 50fps. I really don't know why there isn't a 720p 25fps hvf option though.
> On Fri May 4 02:12:05 BST 2017, I wrote:
>
> > FWIW, flashhd was the only way I could get
> > 720p25 for either pid=p04w8y7v or p0510g83
>
> ...Most sadly, I have come across at least one PID
> (p050r6v9) for which both hlshd & flashhd are corrupted!
> flashhd (in GiP 2.97) will constantly only fetch
> a 10.4 MB partial.flv file before RTMPdump
> starts choking...
> No 720p25 version for this can be downloaded,
> apparently ;-{ (I had to settle for 540p25).
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Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On Fri May 4 02:12:05 BST 2017, I wrote:
FWIW, flashhd was the only way I could get
720p25 for either pid=p04w8y7v or p0510g83
...Most sadly, I have come across at least one PID
(p050r6v9) for which both hlshd & flashhd are corrupted!
flashhd (in GiP 2.97) will constantly only fetch
a 10.4 MB partial.flv file before RTMPdump
starts choking...
No 720p25 version for this can be downloaded,
apparently ;-{ (I had to settle for 540p25).
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Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On 05/05/2017 02:12, Vangelis forthnet wrote: I'll say it again, but it was not prudent to axe RTMP streams support before the BBC do; old reliable code with little maintenance cost, should have been removed only after those streams were killed-off by the beeb... Agree totally, why close the door and remove an option if you don't have to? I notice that half my v3.00 downloads of yesterday's programmes were downgraded to 960x540, rather than the 1280x720 which is norm for them. I think I'll dig out v2.99 and retry them using that! A --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On Thu May 4 13:13:12 BST 2017, tellyaddict wrote: Being on 2.99 would still have errors. True, Dr Watson, very true... :-) However, 2.99 (and earlier) provide access to exact matches (specswise) to the hls modes that are now failing with "Segment not found" errors (which is a sad revisit of the issues we faced back when 2.95 was released). The following excerpt from the 2.96 Release Notes continues to be of value even today: https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/release296#4-flash---saviour-of-the-universe I'll say it again, but it was not prudent to axe RTMP streams support before the BBC do; old reliable code with little maintenance cost, should have been removed only after those streams were killed-off by the beeb... FWIW, flashhd was the only way I could get 720p25 for either pid=p04w8y7v or p0510g83 Cheers ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
Thank you - "hvfxhigh" is exactly what I was looking for! That's given me a 390MB file for "MasterChef", compared to 810MB for "hvfxsd" and 1GB for "hlshd". I'll use that as my default mode from now on. Having read an earlier post, I did actually replace "ffmpeg" with the version from 2.99 after I'd upgraded to 3.00, and that seems to be working fine for me, other than the problems with the "dvf" version which, as you advise, I'll avoid in the future. Thanks for your help - it's very much appreciated. Cheers, Chris -Original Message- From: tellyaddict Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 1:13 PM To: get_iplayer Subject: Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00 That's my fault. I was looking at the mode you had tried for Masterchef rather than the mode I knew you were after. What you actually want is hvfxhigh which should be the sort of size and quality you are used to. The dvf modes download as 2 separate files (audio + video) and then use ffmpeg to stitch them together into 1 file. As you are on XP though you might have trouble with that unless you downgrade your version of ffmpeg. I'd ignore dvf modes for now. It is just coincidence that HLS files have started becoming corrupted on the server at the same time as a major upgrade was needed to GiP. Being on 2.99 would still have errors. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
That's my fault. I was looking at the mode you had tried for Masterchef rather than the mode I knew you were after. What you actually want is hvfxhigh which should be the sort of size and quality you are used to. The dvf modes download as 2 separate files (audio + video) and then use ffmpeg to stitch them together into 1 file. As you are on XP though you might have trouble with that unless you downgrade your version of ffmpeg. I'd ignore dvf modes for now. It is just coincidence that HLS files have started becoming corrupted on the server at the same time as a major upgrade was needed to GiP. Being on 2.99 would still have errors. > Thanks, tellyadict. "hvfxstd" is slightly smaller than "hlshd" (870MB v. > 1GB), but I really wish I could download 340MB versions as I used to do. > Unfortunately the availability of low-res versions of programmes seems to be > getting more and more restricted. I found one mode which gave me a 340MB > file (something starting in "dvf" I think it was), but it turned out to be > audio only - no picture! > > Is it just a coincidence that I'm only seeing these "missing segment" errors > after I switched from 2.99 to 3.00? It's not something I ever recall seeing > prior to the upgrade! > > I do find these new modes VERY confusing. I always used to use "flashstd" > and that worked fine until it all went away :(. > > Thanks, > > Chris ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
On 04 May 2017, Chris Marriott wrote: > I do find these new modes VERY confusing. I always used to use "flashstd" > and that worked fine until it all went away :(. I generally just adjust among "good", "better", "best" according to if things seem too rubbish or big for me, I very rarely have to figure out the weirder ones! So thank you for these easy aliases at least. -- Mark ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
Thanks, tellyadict. "hvfxstd" is slightly smaller than "hlshd" (870MB v. 1GB), but I really wish I could download 340MB versions as I used to do. Unfortunately the availability of low-res versions of programmes seems to be getting more and more restricted. I found one mode which gave me a 340MB file (something starting in "dvf" I think it was), but it turned out to be audio only - no picture! Is it just a coincidence that I'm only seeing these "missing segment" errors after I switched from 2.99 to 3.00? It's not something I ever recall seeing prior to the upgrade! I do find these new modes VERY confusing. I always used to use "flashstd" and that worked fine until it all went away :(. Thanks, Chris -Original Message- From: tellyaddict Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 11:45 AM To: get_iplayer Subject: Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00 Hi Chris At the moment there are a lot of programmes appearing with missing segments on hls modes. Which modes it affects is random. At least with Masterchef you found that it failed right at the beginning on segment 1, but you could easily find that with some programmes you get half way through or more and then it fails with a missing segment. hvfxsd is pretty much the same as the one you were trying to download. You could use that as a fallback and use --modes=hlsvhigh,hvfxsd and if the hlsvhigh download fails at any point it will use hvfxsd. If these missing segments keep happening you might want to switch to hvfxsd completely and bypass hls. Downloading in "hlshd" mode does work, but I have a relatively slow Internet connection, and the HD version of the programme is too big and too slow to download. Can anyone help me out with this, please? Why is the "hlsvhigh" download failing? Is there any other mode I can use to get a file smaller than the HD version? I should note that all "hlsvhigh" downloads worked absolutely fine with GiP 2.99. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Can't download with GiP 3.00
Hi Chris At the moment there are a lot of programmes appearing with missing segments on hls modes. Which modes it affects is random. At least with Masterchef you found that it failed right at the beginning on segment 1, but you could easily find that with some programmes you get half way through or more and then it fails with a missing segment. hvfxsd is pretty much the same as the one you were trying to download. You could use that as a fallback and use --modes=hlsvhigh,hvfxsd and if the hlsvhigh download fails at any point it will use hvfxsd. If these missing segments keep happening you might want to switch to hvfxsd completely and bypass hls. > Downloading in "hlshd" mode does work, but I have a relatively slow Internet > connection, and the HD version of the programme is too big and too slow to > download. > > Can anyone help me out with this, please? Why is the "hlsvhigh" download > failing? Is there any other mode I can use to get a file smaller than the HD > version? I should note that all "hlsvhigh" downloads worked absolutely fine > with GiP 2.99. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Can't download with GiP 3.00
Dear All, I was successfully using GiP 2.99 on my Windows XP machine but, on the advice of people here, upgraded to 3.00 because I stopped being able to download programmes in "hlsstd" mode. Unfortunately, things have gone from bad to worse as a result of upgrading. Not only is "hlsstd" mode still unavailable, but when I try to download in the next smallest size, "hlsvhigh", I get an error. Eg, this is the result of trying to download last night's edition of "Masterchef": C:\Program Files\get_iplayer>get_iplayer --mode=hlsvhigh --pid=b08pqbhw get_iplayer 3.00-windows.0, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details use --warranty. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; use --conditions for details. NOTE: A UK TV licence is required to legally access BBC iPlayer TV content INFO: Trying pid: b08pqbhw using type: tv INFO: Trying to download PID using type tv INFO: pid not found in tv cache Matches: INFO: 1 Matching Programmes INFO: Checking existence of original version INFO: hlsvhigh1,hlsvhigh2 modes will be tried for version original INFO: Trying hlsvhigh1 mode to record tv: MasterChef: Series 13 - 19. Episode 19 INFO: File name prefix = MasterChef_Series_13_-_19._Episode_19_b08pqbhw_original INFO: Begin recording file: C:\iPlayer_Recordings\MasterChef_Series_13_-_19._Epi sode_19_b08pqbhw_original.video.ts INFO: Begin recording at: 0.00 MiB (00:00:00) [1] INFO: Recorded: 0.00 MiB (00:00:00) [0] in 00:00:00 at 0.00 Mibit/s WARNING: Segment not available from server [1] WARNING: Stopped recording file: C:\iPlayer_Recordings\MasterChef_Series_13_-_19 ._Episode_19_b08pqbhw_original.video.ts WARNING: Stopped recording at: 0.00 MiB (00:00:00) [0] INFO: skipping hlsvhigh1 mode INFO: Trying hlsvhigh2 mode to record tv: MasterChef: Series 13 - 19. Episode 19 INFO: File name prefix = MasterChef_Series_13_-_19._Episode_19_b08pqbhw_original INFO: Begin recording file: C:\iPlayer_Recordings\MasterChef_Series_13_-_19._Epi sode_19_b08pqbhw_original.video.ts INFO: Begin recording at: 0.00 MiB (00:00:00) [1] INFO: Recorded: 0.00 MiB (00:00:00) [0] in 00:00:00 at 0.00 Mibit/s WARNING: Segment not available from server [1] WARNING: Stopped recording file: C:\iPlayer_Recordings\MasterChef_Series_13_-_19 ._Episode_19_b08pqbhw_original.video.ts WARNING: Stopped recording at: 0.00 MiB (00:00:00) [0] INFO: skipping hlsvhigh2 mode ERROR: Failed to record 'MasterChef: Series 13 - 19. Episode 19 (b08pqbhw)' Downloading in "hlshd" mode does work, but I have a relatively slow Internet connection, and the HD version of the programme is too big and too slow to download. Can anyone help me out with this, please? Why is the "hlsvhigh" download failing? Is there any other mode I can use to get a file smaller than the HD version? I should note that all "hlsvhigh" downloads worked absolutely fine with GiP 2.99. Thanks! Chris ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
