Shell script to get PIDs from schedules (again)
I've fixed it. http://peterscott.eu/freeScripts/getPids_html appears to work for TV as well now. Sorry I can't get these three posts to link. I'm having trouble using gmail to reply to the list. Peter -- email: p.sc...@shu.ac.uk website: http://peterscott.eu NB: My mobile is a "not at home" phone; I don't hear or see it at home. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Shell script to get PIDs from schedules (again)
I spoke too soon! It works for radio three and four, maybe others but not TV. Peter -- email: p.sc...@shu.ac.uk website: http://peterscott.eu NB: My mobile is a "not at home" phone; I don't hear or see it at home. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Shell script to get PIDs from schedules (again)
Amazingly my old screen-scraping script still works! You can get it here: http://peterscott.eu/freeScripts/getPids_html Peter -- email: p.sc...@shu.ac.uk website: http://peterscott.eu NB: My mobile is a "not at home" phone; I don't hear or see it at home. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
Sorry, google switched back to html without me noticing, resending this. Peter, some good ideas there, but there is no need to scrape the web pages when all the schedule info you could possibly need is available in xml, json and yaml files at urls of this form: www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json www.bbc.co.uk/radio4extra/programmes/schedules/2014/11/1.json www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/last_week.json etc. see this page for further info: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/radiolabs/2008/05/helping_machines_play_with_pro.shtml the :outlet part is 'fm' for radio4, 'england' for bbcone and two and not needed for radio 4 extra/bbc four etc. hope this helps. Chris On 1 November 2014 14:39, Peter Scott p.sc...@shu.ac.uk wrote: Apologies if this arrives twice -- I forgot to send it as plain text the first time. I rarely used get_iplayer's searches and I only use Linux and the command line. I have a script to get the PIDs from the radio4 schedule; I have modified it to do TV too. It is very crude but someone may find it useful. You can get it here: http://www.apxd65.dsl.pipex.com/freeScripts/#getPids (It is not polished enough for my github page.) -- email: p.sc...@shu.ac.uk website: http://peterscott.eu NB: My mobile is a not at home phone; I don't hear or see it at home. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer -- _ o , , / | | |_| / \_/ \_| | \__/ \/ \/ |/ \/ \/ \/|/ (| ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
On 02/11/14 08:52, Chris Allison wrote: Peter, some good ideas there, but there is no need to scrape the web pages when all the schedule info you could possibly need is available in xml, json and yaml files at urls of this form: www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json www.bbc.co.uk/radio4extra/programmes/schedules/2014/11/1.json www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/last_week.json etc. Thanks for that Chris. Have been excited enough by that first link into experimenting with the json parsing utility called 'jq'. A pipeline like the following will produce all the titles, pids and synopses: wget -O - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json | jq '.[] | .[] | .[] | .[] | .programme as $P | $P.display_titles.title,$P.short_synopsis,$P.pid' So, just a 6-line tail with wget -q -O - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json | jq '.[] | .[] | .[] | .[] | .programme as $P | $P.display_titles.title,$P.short_synopsis,$P.pid' | tail -n 6 will get you the following: The Film Programme Director Mike Leigh discusses art and movie-making in his latest film Mr Turner. b04mgxtq Something Understood Mark Tully debates the cultural benefits of classical music with composer James MacMillan. b04n2fmh Regards, Charles ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 08:52:09AM +, Chris Allison wrote: some good ideas there, but there is no need to scrape the web pages when all the schedule info you could possibly need is available in xml, json and yaml files at urls of this form: www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json www.bbc.co.uk/radio4extra/programmes/schedules/2014/11/1.json www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/last_week.json Please check the headers you get back from any such request, though: X-Aps-Deprecation-Notice: APS is soon to be deprecated. It will first of all cease to be supported on a 24/7 basis, and will then cease responding entirely. Nitro is the BBC's new API for programme data, and can provide all the information previously provided by APS. Go here to read more: http://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitro It's nice to have for now, but I wouldn't go building any serious infrastructure on it. Roger ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
Hello I may have missed something , but where is there any mention of the www.bbc.co.uk website programme schedules going away? This will be sorted out. I am a happy camper, the Sunday morning programs came down as normal and pain levels are manageable today, so all is good with the world. Sent from my iPad terry l. ridder On Nov 2, 2014, at 7:17, Roger Bell_West ro...@firedrake.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 08:52:09AM +, Chris Allison wrote: some good ideas there, but there is no need to scrape the web pages when all the schedule info you could possibly need is available in xml, json and yaml files at urls of this form: www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json www.bbc.co.uk/radio4extra/programmes/schedules/2014/11/1.json www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/last_week.json Please check the headers you get back from any such request, though: X-Aps-Deprecation-Notice: APS is soon to be deprecated. It will first of all cease to be supported on a 24/7 basis, and will then cease responding entirely. Nitro is the BBC's new API for programme data, and can provide all the information previously provided by APS. Go here to read more: http://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitro It's nice to have for now, but I wouldn't go building any serious infrastructure on it. Roger ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 09:10:57AM -0600, Terry L. Ridder wrote: I may have missed something , but where is there any mention of the www.bbc.co.uk website programme schedules going away? As I said in the mail that you quoted, it's in the HTTP headers when you request the actual schedules. It's not announced on the web site itself as far as I know. (Please don't reply both to the list and to me. I read the list.) Roger ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
Terry L. Ridder artisticfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I may have missed something , but where is there any mention of the www.bbc.co.uk website programme schedules going away? You've missed this: if a computer program grabs website pages and 'scrapes' them, which is to say wades through all the rubbish that's there to make the page look pretty, trying to extract only the data that says what the tv/radio programmes are, their pids etc... it's - complicated - slow - unreliable because as soon as the BBC alter how the webpages work, the scraping programs might need altered So instead, programmers are concentrating on finding resources that contain data without frills. The stuff at: www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json and www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.yaml and www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.xml (those three URLs are the same except for the last .xxx part) all yield data that's much more immediately useful to programmers. The first two are nasty for a human to look at, the third is easier on the eye. But as someone said these simpler-to-use files are going to cease to exist; they're 'deprecated' which is the term programmers use to mean something that works now but soon won't. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
Hello; checking with wireshark, only the json and xml versions have the warning. so yes, JSON and XML may go away at anytime but HTML will still be there. So parsing the HTML will not as easy as JSON or XML; the parsing should still provide the same results. So using the schedules is still a viable option. On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Roger Bell_West ro...@firedrake.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 09:10:57AM -0600, Terry L. Ridder wrote: I may have missed something , but where is there any mention of the www.bbc.co.uk website programme schedules going away? As I said in the mail that you quoted, it's in the HTTP headers when you request the actual schedules. It's not announced on the web site itself as far as I know. (Please don't reply both to the list and to me. I read the list.) Roger ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer -- terry l. ridder ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
hello; JSON, XML and YAML, all have the following in the header sent by the server which most people would never see. HTTP/1.1 200 OK Server: Apache Content-Type: application/x-yaml Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * X-PAL-Host: pal131.telhc.bbc.co.uk:80 X-UA-Compatible: IE=edge X-Aps-Deprecation-Notice: APS is soon to be deprecated. It will first of all cease to be supported on a 24/7 basis, and will then cease responding entirely. Nitro is the BBC's new API for programme data, and can provide all the information previously provided by APS. Go here to read more: http://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitro Cache-Control: private, max-age=0, no-store Content-Length: 495441 Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 16:17:13 GMT Connection: keep-alive X-Cache-Action: MISS X-Cache-Age: 0 Vary: X-CDN,Accept-Encoding Basically, JSON, XML and YAML, may disappear at any time. We are then left in the same position that we have recently found ourselves. So one viable long term option is to start parsing the HTML version of the programme schedules. In my opinion it is better to start now than wait for the sky is falling the sky falling we are doomed On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer jn.ml.gti...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: Terry L. Ridder artisticfo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I may have missed something , but where is there any mention of the www.bbc.co.uk website programme schedules going away? You've missed this: if a computer program grabs website pages and 'scrapes' them, which is to say wades through all the rubbish that's there to make the page look pretty, trying to extract only the data that says what the tv/radio programmes are, their pids etc... it's - complicated - slow - unreliable because as soon as the BBC alter how the webpages work, the scraping programs might need altered So instead, programmers are concentrating on finding resources that contain data without frills. The stuff at: www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json and www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.yaml and www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.xml (those three URLs are the same except for the last .xxx part) all yield data that's much more immediately useful to programmers. The first two are nasty for a human to look at, the third is easier on the eye. But as someone said these simpler-to-use files are going to cease to exist; they're 'deprecated' which is the term programmers use to mean something that works now but soon won't. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer -- terry l. ridder ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
this one seems to work:
% curl -v -v http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/js/episode/b04nhkz9
GET /iplayer/js/episode/b04nhkz9 HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: curl/7.37.1
Host: www.bbc.co.uk
Accept: */*
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
* Server Apache is not blacklisted
Server: Apache
Content-Type: application/json
Etag: 0336180592c132763a48612b843431b3
X-PAL-Host: pal120.telhc.bbc.co.uk:80
X-Ua-Compatible: IE=edge
Content-Length: 224
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 18:15:34 GMT
Connection: keep-alive
X-Cache-Action: MISS
X-Cache-Age: 0
Cache-Control: private, max-age=0, must-revalidate
Vary: X-CDN,Accept-Language,Accept-Encoding
{ [data not shown]
100 224 100 2240 0858 0 --:--:-- --:--:--
--:--:-- 864
* Connection #0 to host www.bbc.co.uk left intact
{id:b04nhkz9,title:The Apprentice: You're
Fired,subtitle:Series 10: Episode 4,synopsis:Dara O Briain is
joined by Radio 1's Matt Edmondson and comedian Romesh
Ranganathan.,tleo:b007qgcl,versions:[HD]}
no deprecation warning there...
On 2014-11-02 17:24, artisticforge . wrote:
hello;
JSON, XML and YAML, all have the following in the header sent by the
server which most people would never see.
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Apache
Content-Type: application/x-yaml
Access-Control-Allow-Origin: *
X-PAL-Host: pal131.telhc.bbc.co.uk:80
X-UA-Compatible: IE=edge
X-Aps-Deprecation-Notice: APS is soon to be deprecated. It will first
of all cease to be supported on a 24/7 basis, and will then cease
responding entirely. Nitro is the BBC's new API for programme data,
and can provide all the information previously provided by APS. Go
here to read more: http://developer.bbc.co.uk/nitro
Cache-Control: private, max-age=0, no-store
Content-Length: 495441
Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 16:17:13 GMT
Connection: keep-alive
X-Cache-Action: MISS
X-Cache-Age: 0
Vary: X-CDN,Accept-Encoding
Basically, JSON, XML and YAML, may disappear at any time. We are then
left in the same position that we have recently
found ourselves.
So one viable long term option is to start parsing the HTML version of
the programme schedules.
In my opinion it is better to start now than wait for the sky is
falling the sky falling we are doomed
On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer
jn.ml.gti...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote:
Terry L. Ridder artisticfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello
I may have missed something , but where is there any mention of the
www.bbc.co.uk website programme schedules going away?
You've missed this: if a computer program grabs website pages and 'scrapes'
them, which is to say wades through all the rubbish that's there to make the
page look pretty, trying to extract only the data that says what the
tv/radio programmes are, their pids etc... it's
- complicated
- slow
- unreliable because as soon as the BBC alter how the webpages
work, the scraping programs might need altered
So instead, programmers are concentrating on finding resources that contain
data without frills. The stuff at:
www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json
and
www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.yaml
and
www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.xml
(those three URLs are the same except for the last .xxx part) all yield data
that's much more immediately useful to programmers. The first two are nasty
for a human to look at, the third is easier on the eye. But as someone said
these simpler-to-use files are going to cease to exist; they're 'deprecated'
which is the term programmers use to mean something that works now but soon
won't.
--
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
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Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
Charles Johnson cehjohn...@gmail.com writes: On 02/11/14 08:52, Chris Allison wrote: Peter, some good ideas there, but there is no need to scrape the web pages when all the schedule info you could possibly need is available in xml, json and yaml files at urls of this form: www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json www.bbc.co.uk/radio4extra/programmes/schedules/2014/11/1.json www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/programmes/schedules/last_week.json etc. Thanks for that Chris. Have been excited enough by that first link into experimenting with the json parsing utility called 'jq'. A pipeline like the following will produce all the titles, pids and synopses: wget -O - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json | jq '.[] | .[] | .[] | .[] | .programme as $P | $P.display_titles.title,$P.short_synopsis,$P.pid' So, just a 6-line tail with wget -q -O - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json | jq '.[] | .[] | .[] | .[] | .programme as $P | $P.display_titles.title,$P.short_synopsis,$P.pid' | tail -n 6 will get you the following: The Film Programme Director Mike Leigh discusses art and movie-making in his latest film Mr Turner. b04mgxtq Something Understood Mark Tully debates the cultural benefits of classical music with composer James MacMillan. b04n2fmh Thanks for this Charles. With your last command --8---cut here---start-8--- wget -q -O - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json | jq '.[] | .[] | .[] | .[] | .programme as $P | $P.display_titles.title,$P.short_synopsis,$P.pid' | tail - 6 --8---cut here---end---8--- It is failing for me saying ╭ │parse error: Invalid numeric literal at line 1, column 10 ╰ Presumably its referring to -O, but what should it be please to get it working properly? Thanks Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian testing, fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.4.1.0 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
Dirk Husemann dirk+getipla...@d2h.net wrote: this one seems to work: % curl -v -v http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/js/episode/b04nhkz9 GET /iplayer/js/episode/b04nhkz9 HTTP/1.1 Interesting, but not a schedule. You already knew the pid... -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
Sharon Kimble boudic...@skimble.plus.com wrote: Thanks for this Charles. With your last command --8---cut here---start-8--- wget -q -O - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json | jq '.[] | .[] | .[] | .[] | .programme as $P | $P.display_titles.title,$P.short_synopsis,$P.pid' | tail - 6 --8---cut here---end---8--- It is failing for me saying ╭ │parse error: Invalid numeric literal at line 1, column 10 ╰ Presumably its referring to -O, but what should it be please to get it working properly? Are you sure that the tail - 6 is right? It looks different from the OP's | tail -n 6 Though if that's the problem I don't quite see why the parse error would mention column 10. Do the separate stages of the command work for you, before pipelineing them together? -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
On 2014-11-02 19:49, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: Dirk Husemann dirk+getipla...@d2h.net wrote: this one seems to work: % curl -v -v http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/js/episode/b04nhkz9 GET /iplayer/js/episode/b04nhkz9 HTTP/1.1 Interesting, but not a schedule. You already knew the pid... which you can get from the iplayer guide page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/guide/bbc/20141029 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
Dirk Husemann dirk+getipla...@d2h.net wrote: On 2014-11-02 19:49, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: Interesting, but not a schedule. You already knew the pid... which you can get from the iplayer guide page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/guide/bbc/20141029 Yes, but the point of the thread is finding ways to extract all this info from the bbc (to build a searchable list of available programmes, which is what get_iplayer's radio.cache and tv.cache files were) without scraping complicated and - potentially - ever-changing internal format webpages. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
On 02/11/14 18:47, Sharon Kimble wrote: --8---cut here---start-8--- wget -q -O - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json | jq '.[] | .[] | .[] | .[] | .programme as $P | $P.display_titles.title,$P.short_synopsis,$P.pid' | tail - 6 --8---cut here---end---8--- Sharon - have a look at your tail command - it's missing an 'n'. Should be wget -q -O - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json | jq '.[] | .[] | .[] | .[] | .programme as $P | $P.display_titles.title,$P.short_synopsis,$P.pid' | tail -n 6 You might like to try the following, which will produce pipe-delimited csv, which is like a mini version of the cache index: wget -q -O - http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/programmes/schedules/fm/this_week.json | jq '.[] | .[] | .[] | .[] as $B | $B.programme as $P | $P.display_titles.title+|+$B.start+|+$B.end+|+$P.short_synopsis+|+$P.pid' | tr -d '' Having said all that, it looks like this is redundant really as http://packages.hedgerows.org.uk/gip/get_iplayer.pl provides a patch that uses the schedules to build an index. I have symlinked to that pro-tem. Charles ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
On 2014-11-02 20:22, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: Dirk Husemann dirk+getipla...@d2h.net wrote: On 2014-11-02 19:49, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: Interesting, but not a schedule. You already knew the pid... which you can get from the iplayer guide page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/guide/bbc/20141029 Yes, but the point of the thread is finding ways to extract all this info from the bbc (to build a searchable list of available programmes, which is what get_iplayer's radio.cache and tv.cache files were) without scraping complicated and - potentially - ever-changing internal format webpages. exactly, so we should take a look at how the iplayer webapp is working - the feeds will be gone sooner rather than later, the iplayer webapp is probably going to stay, so.. % http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/guide/bbc/20141029 | grep /iplayer/episode this will return all iplayer hrefs for 29 october, from which we can extract the PID and then access the JSON info. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Shell script to get PIDs from schedules
Apologies if this arrives twice -- I forgot to send it as plain text the first time. I rarely used get_iplayer's searches and I only use Linux and the command line. I have a script to get the PIDs from the radio4 schedule; I have modified it to do TV too. It is very crude but someone may find it useful. You can get it here: http://www.apxd65.dsl.pipex.com/freeScripts/#getPids (It is not polished enough for my github page.) -- email: p.sc...@shu.ac.uk website: http://peterscott.eu NB: My mobile is a not at home phone; I don't hear or see it at home. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
