[Gimp-developer] CCCAMP11 Reimbursements - please send documents
Hi, I'd like everyone who wants to be reimbursed for the GIMP meeting at Chaos Communication Camp 2011 to send the amount and receipts (camp, train, plane tickets, ...) directly to me. If you haven't requested any reimbursements for previous events, please include your bank account details (including BIC/IBAN) as well - do that if the data has changed, too. Regards, Michael -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Blog article about Scheme usage in GIMP
Moin, I've come across the following blog post in my feed: http://benjisimon.blogspot.com/2011/09/how-guile-and-scheme-could-really-win.html The author obviously favors Scheme over other programming languages, and has a clearly defined goal for the level of Scheme support in GIMP: "The API should be so smoothly integrated in with The Gimp, that you'd be crazy to choose any other language." At present, this is not true - and possible reasons are mentioned in the blog post, too: "And you can't exactly blame programmers for not embracing Scheme: much of the Script-Fu scheme code out there is written in poor style (oh, to see Scheme code indented like C code - my eyes, my eyes!). Additionally, the Scheme API is low level." I guess both of these are valid - I'm seeing many examples of people applying concepts from other languages to Scheme (e.g. some go to great lengths to get the number of elements of a list, in order to use that number in a for loop which iterates over the list). I can only imagine how that feels for a real Scheme programmer. There are suggestions on how to solve this, too. A "Scheme community" should do the following: "1. Don't stop by delivering the low level C style API. Go beyond that and deliver a high level API, one that uses all the cool features that are highlighted in Andy Wingo's post on Guile. Don't just talk about how macros can dramatically change the life of a programmer, make some that do. Don't just talk about how call-with-current-continuation can add new looping constructs to a language, create some. 2. Make sure there's plenty of high quality examples available. Perhaps reviewing and improving the plugins that users submit. " The author doesn't elaborate on the community, so I'm not sure who he's addressing with this post - i.e. if there are people working on improving Scheme support in arbitrary applications. I'm not aware of any plans to improve Scheme support in GIMP from our side, though - at least not in the direction of that blog post. Running scripts like plug-ins is planned, maybe introducing named parameters, but not an overhaul of the whole API. And IIRC not a move to a different Scheme implementation - more likely a move to a different language altogether. I'd like to comment on the blog post, or see comments by someone else, but I'd like to clarify our plans for Scheme in GIMP first. Regards, Michael -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Recent Gegl-0.1.7 build fails
> > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Partha Bagchi > wrote: > >> I tried again. The error still persists: > >> > >> gegl-buffer-save.c: In function 'gegl_buffer_save': > >> gegl-buffer-save.c:227: error: 'S_IRGRP' undeclared (first use in [...] > Von: Partha Bagchi > OK. I create a patch using diff. Would that be sufficient? I attached > it to this mail. Hope it comes through. The S_*GRP and S_*OTH flags aren't defined on the Windows platform, and to my knowledge the bits associated to them don't have any meaning there anyway. I've committed a change to GEGL to fix this (a #ifdef check to change the open command to not use them on the Windows platform). The next problem that you'll most likely encounter is the undefined fsync in gegl/buffer - in my local tree, I've added a AC_CHECK_FUNS(fsync) directive to my configure.ac and wrapped the fsync calls in #if HAVE_FSYNC. I guess that fsync could be redefined to FlushFileBuffers (see http://www.humboldt.co.uk/2009/03/fsync-across-platforms.html) on the Windows platform unless a fsync implementation is found by the check. Regards, Michael -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Students Application Deadline - 2011-04-08, 19:00 UTC
Quick reminder: The application deadline for Google Summer of Code 2011 ends on Friday, 2011-04-08 19:00 UTC All students have to be signed up and have to submit their applications before that deadline - the cutoff is done automatically, there's no grace period. If you have any questions about your applications, the best place to ask them in the short time remaining is the GIMP IRC channel #gimp on the server irc.gimp.org Regards, Michael -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC 2011 announced
On 26.01.2011 06:51, Martin Nordholts wrote:
> On 01/25/2011 05:52 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>> Google has just announced GSoC2011.
>
> Schumaml: Will you be our GSoC master this year too? If so, that would
> be great.
Thanks for having confidence in me again :)
In order to participate successfully, we'll have to care about the
following key aspects:
1. Mentors
2. Projects
3. Students
1. Mentors
--
Mentors are supposed to help the students with their project, by
defining an evaluating goals, any problems they may have, and are
responsible for rating the projects at least twice (midterm and end).
Usually, the mentors know fairly well what types of projects they'd like
to mentor.
It would be nice if potential mentors would introduce themselves on the
gimp-developer list, and provide some information about the projects
they'd like to mentor most - either very specific ideas or generic
("beginner-level python plug-in"), what they'll expect from their
students, what they'd like to have for qualifications tasks, ...
2. Projects
---
We'll need some viable and manageable projects for the students. Viable
means that if the project is successful, it will be integrated into GIMP
as soon as possible* (in the master branch, at least).
This means that anything - GUI in particular - has to be approved by
guiguru and the inner circle of active developers.
Projects suggested by students without prior consulting may be very hard
to fit into these requirements.
The goal of the projects should always be new contributors, not just the
code produced during GSoC.
3. Students
---
Due to the recent news items about the lack of developers, there is the
chance that we may be a bit overwhelmed by student applications. We
should have a very precise idea about the number of projects we can
handle, and not sacrifice quality of mentoring for quantity (like one
mentor mentoring two students besides a full-time job).
---
Please comment on this - there may be much more important aspects I've
forgotten to mention.
GSoC time line:
http://www.google-melange.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2011/faqs#timeline
Regards,
Michael
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?
> Von: Stephen Greenwalt > * It seems to work best to put the entire project (all source, and all > build product) under a project folder in the Home directory. > * If possible, that should include a *copy *of any external > dependencies with environment variables (etc) adjusted accordingly > * The project ought to be able to exist in a "*bubble*" . . . so as to > avoid confusion . . . regarding copies of dependencies that might exist > in the OS. > * Multiple different project versions ought to be able to exist on the > same machine without stepping over each other. Martin has covered that in http://www.chromecode.com/2009/12/best-way-to-keep-up-with-gimp-from-git_26.html That's rather easy to follow, shouldn't take more take more than an hour*, even when running into each problem that's commonly encountered on a default Ubuntu install (i.e. no compilers, no developer files, ...) deliberately. *assuming a broadband connection and something around a 2GHz system, otherwise add some buffer for download and compile times > * If we do it right, compiling for Linux vs. Windows vs. OSx ought > require no more than the flip of a switch. If you've got a build environment set up, it builds with the exact same commands. > * Shouldn't we standardize on a common development IDE (like Eclipse)? Shouldn't be necessary - if you make sure that the IDE doesn't interfere with the autotools build setup and/or introduces its own project files, then you may choose any IDE you like. Regards, Michael -- GMX DSL Doppel-Flat ab 19,99 Euro/mtl.! Jetzt mit gratis Handy-Flat! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Possible Future of ScriptFu/TinyFu with R6RS/Racket
On 14.01.2011 21:59, Marco Ciampa wrote: > On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 05:17:45PM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote: >>> Von: Alexia Death >>> I think script-fu would be ideal for such use. If you could record an >>> action, and then optionally convert it to a full script a lot of >>> convenience and ease of automation would be added. >> >> Writing out recorded actions in any language shouldn't be the problem... > > I think that this is one of the most wanted TODO for GIMP. > If it is not a problem, why noone has planned to do it? Note the "If you could record an action" in Alexia's message. Recording is the hard part, actually. The Undo list only has images, not the commands and parameter values used for them. See the corresponding report: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51937 Martin wants to change the Undo system using the Command Pattern (see comment 43 of the above report, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_Pattern for an explanation of this pattern). Once we have that (or something equivalent), then writing out the commands in any programming language shouldn't be a problem anymore. HTH, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] donations for GIMP 2.8
On 06.01.2011 23:01, Sven Neumann wrote: > I just wanted to let you know that we have seen a dramatic increase in > donations since then. More than 120 people donated over the last 8 days > and sent us about 2,500 dollars. Perhaps it would be a good idea to > discuss how we can actually use this money to make the GIMP 2.8 release > happen soon... Alexia suggested that we get Peter a tablet. I think this is an excellent idea - first-hand experience with different input devices should help a lot when planning for GIMP user interaction, especially with any of the tools. I'd say we should aim for the same model Mitch got recently - an Intuos 4 plus an Art Pen. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on OSX, Mac App Store and Funding
On 07.12.2010 19:15, Filipe Sim-Sim wrote: > Now before any flamming and discussion on the GPL, i would like to > state that the App Store webpage on Gimp should clearly state that > this is opensource software, that you can download the source and/or > the binary from the project page and that this is essentially a > donation to the project combined with a easy software install and > upgrade management. If Apple doesn't change their Terms of Service for this instance of an App store, then we won't have to bother with discussions about whether the GNU GPL allows this distribution method - Apple will simple remove GIMP from the store. See http://www.fsf.org/news/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement for some background. HTH, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Graphic Tablet Sponsoring
> Von: Michael Natterer > Since the GIMP account is full of money, and I don't use > it for anything else that hacking GIMP, I'd like to get > it sponsored. > > There is no GIMP commitee deciding such things, so please > object here, or give an OK if you feel "entitled" to :-) I feel entitled to OK this, because I've triggered many (most?) of the recent transactions involving GIMP money :) Helping developers to work on GIMP *is* on of the purposes of that money. I can also send the mail to the GNOME treasurer to trigger the reimbursement for your tablet, if you'd feel weird about requesting the money yourself. Should you feel guilty about withdrawing money for something you may benefit from personally, then I'd suggest that you mentor in a future GSoC and let the mentor org share of the stipend rest in the GIMP funds ;) Regards, Michael -- GRATIS! Movie-FLAT mit über 300 Videos. Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] GIMP & GNU GPLv3/LGPLv3 in general (was: Re: distributing gimp with another program)
> Von: Christopher Curtis > *** (Sven, Mitch) *** > > This LICENSE text should probably be updated as 'Section 2' of GPLv3 > doesn't talk about aggregations - it's been moved into section 5. It > might also be useful to address this issue directly as the GPLv2 is > generally well understood to allow command line usage as an > 'aggregation', but GPLv3 seems to muddy this distinction. At the moment I'm not even sure if GIMP should be licensed under GPLv3 without a much better understanding of the license. For example, the fact that it is now impossible to use GPLv2-only libraries in plug-in wasn't considered at all. It's not such much the fact that we can't use them anymore, rather the problem of no one even thinking about it when we changed the license version to v3. I have contacted the Freedom Task Force of the FSF in order to get help, and they requested more details. Unfortunately my spare time (or the lack thereof) didn't allow me to write a reply yet. I'd be glad to learn about any additional side-effects of a GPLv3-licensed GIMP (note that libgimp* is licensed under LGPLv3) that may surprise us - but please base them on actual FSF information and not mere speculation. Regards, Michael -- Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! Jetzt De-Mail-Adresse reservieren: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/demail ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Why the Van Gogh filter is still in gimp?
On 14.11.2010 01:21, Bill Skaggs wrote: > Here is a better reason, maybe. It is a good thing if people can learn > to use Gimp by experimenting. When features are included for which > experimenting leads only to confusion, and never to anything useful, > users are discouraged from experimenting. Doesn't this boil down to "Remove anything that requires any level of education?" Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Why the Van Gogh filter is still in gimp?
> Von: Martin Nordholts > Other than that I agree, the plug-in isn't good enough for being > included in GIMP 3.0. What are the requirements for "good enough to be included in GIMP 3.0"? If we don't have them yet, we really should start collecting them. The docs page about the plug-in suggests that the author didn't really know what's going on, but that's nothing to be ashamed of, in my opinion. Michael -- GRATIS! Movie-FLAT mit über 300 Videos. Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Please change the subjects of sub-threads (was: Re: IMPORTANT: GIMP AND OPENSOURCE SCAM ON EBAY!)
Hi, this thread has spawned several sub-threads about different topics, yet not a single one of them has got a meaningful subject. So, the next time someone decides to talk about something completely different, please consider to change the subject of the message as well. In order to facilitate threading in mail apps that don't use the References: and/or In-Reply-To: headers, keep the original subject once, as shown in this message - if you reply, please remove the (was: ...) part. Regards, Michael, TWOM and cat herder ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Patch shortening GIMP startup time
Original-Nachricht > Datum: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 15:53:34 +0200 > Von: "Łukasz Czerwiński" > It seems that you and Sven asked me to make two different actions and > it's useless to do both. Sven asked me to commit my patch into git, > you have told me to create a bug and add a patch there as an attachment. > > Whose commands should I obey? :] Both, they aren't conflicting. You probably get the GIMP source code from Git already, as described here: http://live.gnome.org/Git/Developers Contributing patches is described there as well: http://live.gnome.org/Git/Developers#Contributing_patches HTH, Michael -- GMX DSL SOMMER-SPECIAL: Surf & Phone Flat 16.000 für nur 19,99 €/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] drawing with even number of pixels
> Von: oli...@first.in-berlin.de > I could not find a way to convince a drawing-tool (pen or brush) > to use even number of pixels. > Scaling always yielded to odd number of pixels 1,3,5,... Known problem of vbr brushes: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163602 HTH, Michael -- Neu: GMX De-Mail - Einfach wie E-Mail, sicher wie ein Brief! Jetzt De-Mail-Adresse reservieren: http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/demail ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Deadline ahead: final GSoC evaluations start on August 16!
Hi, we're getting close to the end of Google Summer of Code 2010. On August 16, 19:00 UTC, the firm 'Pencils down!' deadline will be reached. This means the following: 1. Final evaluations of a student's project have to be based on the work done until that deadline 2. Coding may continue The evaluations are due on August 20, 19:00 UTC. http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#timeline Regards, Michael -- GMX DSL: Internet-, Telefon- und Handy-Flat ab 19,99 EUR/mtl. Bis zu 150 EUR Startguthaben inklusive! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.6.10 and python on windows?
On 15.07.2010 22:44, Rob Antonishen wrote: > Any suggestions? Python 2.6? HTH, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Help with new default resources in 2.8
> Von: Alexandre Prokoudine > This is perhaps quite offtopic, but if it was possible to save guides > in GIMP templates, the existing collection of them could be improved > as well. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168541 HTH, Michael -- GMX DSL: Internet-, Telefon- und Handy-Flat ab 19,99 EUR/mtl. Bis zu 150 EUR Startguthaben inklusive! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Mid-term evaluations start next week
Hi, on July 12 19:00 UTC, the midterm evaluations are starting (there will be links on the GSoC website). The evaluations are due on July 16, 19:00 UTC. See http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCMentoring/Evaluations for an overview and description of the various evaluations that'll happen. Please don't forget to complete them in time. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] TO THE DEVS — DECISION ABOUT LGM 2011
On 29.06.2010 17:28, Louis Desjardins wrote: > a) You have enough information to make a call on the proposed LGM venues > for 2011? Yes. > b) You had enough time for a round of internal discussions to see > whether a significant portion of your team will make it to any of the 3 > possible venues? Yes. We're fairly sure that very few GIMP developers will attend a LGM in Vietnam (distance and politics), some more in Brazil (distance) and probably a few more in Montreal, although some may decide to skip a LGM that's held at a familiar place for the third time. > If not, how much time would you like to have for such a round before making > it a team decision? The difficult part is that it's almost a year till the next LGM. Nobody can yet tell for sure if they'll be able to attend. > c) You are in the end satisfied by the process? if not please give some > hints on how to improve this process. I'd like to see it extended on future LGM plans as well - i.e don't wait until after LGM 2011 to decide about 2012. Knowing where the next few meetings might be can help a lot if you know that you'll skip one for whatever reasons. > d) You are ready to make your call about the venues? if yes, please make > it now, if not please tell us when, and maybe why! My personal preference would be Brazil - Vietnam - Montreal; without any really strong opinion for or against any of them. > e) Do you think the guidelines are helpful? if not, are they useless? > can we improve them or should we simply remove the code? The guidelines are useful. There outline exactly why each item is important for the organizers, without being rules for rules sake. > f) What do you think of the bidding process? Should we keep it as it is, > a one-year process? or should we make it a two-year process? And do you > think again you have enough information to make a real choice? Please > explain. Two years. Especially for people who have to save up for travel and accommodation (even if reimbursed, you'll have to cope with less money for some time), it is very helpful to know that a next LGM may be closer to one's location. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.7.1
> Von: Alexander Rabtchevich > I haven't tried yet linux version, but Windows one does not show > anything in a pop-up window for plugin previews (the window is grey). Can't reproduce. > And UFRaw stopped working complaining entry point for the procedure > BZ2_bzRead is not found. Different version of the bz2 library, I guess. Regards, Michael -- GMX DSL: Internet-, Telefon- und Handy-Flat ab 19,99 EUR/mtl. Bis zu 150 EUR Startguthaben inklusive! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Please can we have a single-window UI
> Von: Evan LeCompte > Myself and many other members of the Archlinux community (and anyone using > Linux with a tiling window manager for that matter) humbly beg you (the > developers) for a single-windowed version of GIMP. > > We've been hearing about it for months now... Out of curiosity - what are the primary sources (as in news sources) you're using to stay up-to-date with GIMP development? Regards, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP website [was GIMP T-shirts in our online store]
On 09.06.2010 20:43, LightningIsMyName wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine > wrote: >> One of the things discussed at LGM was moving all project's domain and >> subdomains to a single dedicated server. We have a person willing to >> do the migration and a person to create a new website. > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote: >> We're currently unable to update the website (if you have a look at the >> index page, even the release announcements aren't up to date). >> >> Until this is resolved, we won't be able to add, edit or remove anything >> to, on or from www.gimp.org. > > After reading this, I have to ask: what?! To elaborate on this: 1. the gimp web site is maintained in the gimp-web module of GNOME's Git 2. anyone can pull it from there, change pages and create patches, people with Git write access can push them directly 3. the gimp web server pulls from git, runs make and create static html pages with the updated content 4. step 3 is broken at the moment 5. step 3 is broken because there's no active maintainer for the server Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Merchandizing for the GIMP.
On 09.06.2010 19:19, Sven Neumann wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 16:32 +0200, Simon Budig wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> At LGM we threw some ideas around for Gimp-Merchandizing. > > Since I haven't been at LGM, I have trouble to understand the motivation > for doing GIMP merchandising. > > You are certainly not doing this for the money, are you? Please note that Simon is responding to my request from the GIMP meeting to present an overview of merchandise items in the categories "give-away bulk", "give-away specific", "standard merchandise" and "surprises" (like the ties). Do you remember the - not terribly serious - short discussion we had about this at your place during last congress? That was the much more serious continuation. We've been very careful to leave this at a "present the options, decide later" stage - mostly because many of the GIMP developer's haven't been able to attend LGM. But everyone agreed that we want stickers, at least. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store [reminder]
On 07.06.2010 17:16, Ismael Barros² wrote: > We frankly believe the T-shirt looks good, and we're sure it would > have some more success among many loyal Gimp users with some more > exposure. In example, publishing the link we asked for time ago in > http://www.gimp.org/about/merchandise.html would help a lot. > Currently, all the organizations we work with have us linked from > their website, and it indeed helps to boost our sales and consequently > their donations, so everybody wins. We're currently unable to update the website (if you have a look at the index page, even the release announcements aren't up to date). Until this is resolved, we won't be able to add, edit or remove anything to, on or from www.gimp.org. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp UX: Paste
> Von: Jason Simanek > Thanks for listening. If a discussion about these issues has already > taken place, please provide URLs to those discussions. I have no > intention of reopening discussions that have already been resolved. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=561576 HTH, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] help: The layer Group Info has dropped? Who have the "adobe CS File Formats Specification.pdf"
> Von: Alexandre Prokoudine > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Hades wrote: > > who have the Adobe CS File Formats Specification.pdf or the > version above > > CS . > > > > Could you do me a favour and send the document to me? > > They can't. There's this thing called SDK license. You sign agreement > before getting access to anything. Of course, you may not sign > anything and just reverse engineer it -- that's what I did recently. Whenever some Adobe developers are confronted about this (e.g. at an LGM :)), they claim that there's an ongoing effort to separate the file format description from the SDK. Has anything been achieved in this matter? Regards, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Addressing one of the gimp vision items..."easy installation of plug-ins"
On 14.05.2010 23:00, Akkana Peck wrote: > Writing a file handler like Rob describes sounds easy -- if all you > care about is script-fu. The hard part would getting Python and C > plug-ins installed for users (especially Windows users) who don't > have Python, PyGTK or a C compiler. Getting Python plug-ins installed wouldn't be the problem, they just won't run if the requirements aren't met. But this is supposed to change with future installers... Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Still GIMP @ LGM 2010
On 13.05.2010 14:46, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > So, > > When I emailed about this subject last week, I've been told everyone > was already booked up and talks registered: it looks like teh talk > registration is not quite complete, and we have to fill in the details > for the LGM programme. No idea what the Saturday 100:00 talk is supposed to be, but for... > Who is intending to talk? Peter? GSoC mentors? (including myself)? > We shouldprovide then some details ASAP. ... there are two talk proposals in their wiki: http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/A_first_outline_for_a_UI_for_a_fully_GEGLed_GIMP http://create.freedesktop.org/wiki/Writing_GIMP_scripts_and_plug-ins HTH, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Translating the Windows installer
> Von: Torsten Neuer > Am Montag, 10. Mai 2010 23:34:18 schrieb Jernej Simončič: > > Windows installer for GIMP has till now always been in English only, > > although the installer always shipped with all translations that are > > included with GIMP. It would be nice, if the installer was translated > > as well, but it uses it's own translation format, which is quite > > different from gettext's .po catalogs. What would be the best way to > > handle this translation? > > This depends on how the translations are done in the Windows installer. > Some installers use some kind of database which is not interchangable > and require the installer software for editing. Others use plain text > files (one for each language) which doe not require the installer > software in order to be edited. In the latter case, editable language > templates could be produced by copying the English variant. AFAIK Innosetup uses the latter case. I'm more concerned about the translations themselves: Jernej, please make sure that the translators know what the messages mean... there have been times when GIMP's translations clearly showed that the translators have never tried them when using GIMP :) Regards, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Status, Google Docs, Git - students and mentors
Hi, the official coding period of Google Summer of Code 2010 starts in two weeks (on May 24). Building GIMP and GEGL -- Make sure that building GEGL or GIMP from Git is possible on your system - Martin Nordholts has written a guide about installing GIMP in a private directory: http://www.chromecode.com/2009/12/best-way-to-keep-up-with-gimp-from-git_26.html It is recommended to use the most current revision of your distro. Google Docs --- By now, there should be a plan for each project, describing an initial idea about deliverables and milestones. A quick poll among the mentors has shown that they are in favor of using Google Docs for any documents during GSoC - be it documents, spreadsheets or diagrams. Please make sure that everything is shared between student and mentor and the GIMP GSoC admin (me; Google account is my current mail address). If possible, make the documents public - and the final version of them should be checked into Git. It has also been suggested that Google Wave may be useful for the student-mentor discussions. I'm not sure about this (the Google Wave interface always gives me this "... is this supposed to be usable yet?" feeling), but you can try this for yourself. Please note that it seems to be impossible to access Waves without a Google Wave account, unlike public Google docs. Git Access -- Source code is maintained in Git. In order to push changes back into the repository, you need a Git account. Follow the instructions at http://live.gnome.org/NewAccounts in order to get the account. If you need assistance, ask your mentor or join us on IRC at #gimp on irc.gimp.org Whether your want to work in a branch or stick to master and keep rebasing should be decided by mentor and student. Short presentation for LGM -- It would be nice to have a short presentation of each project for LGM - only a few slides per project. The main goal is to provide some facts to anyone who's interested in GIMP's and GEGL's SoC projects, although these could also be shown in a lightning talk. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] I hava a dream:if GIMP can do WebService
On 09.05.2010 03:56, Hades wrote: > If GIMP can do WebService , It is a rather simple task to get the basic GIMP functionality - i.e. everything the gimp class offers - to work with Python's SimpleXMLRPCServer. See http://registry.gimp.org/node/10 for a very basic example. In order to become useful, many convenience functions will have to be added. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Fwd: GIMP @ LGM 2010
> Von: "Joao S. O. Bueno" > I think I have seen no e-mail on this list about LGM 2010 - it is due > in a couple weeks. That's because everything has been discussed on IRC - the participants are registered, two talks and one lightning talk have been proposed, everyone has travel and hotel booked, ... ... and we've agreed on handling reimbursement with GIMP money. Regards, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Procedure for updating gimp.org
> Von: Sven Neumann > No idea who's in charge of www.gimp.org nowadays. No one I guess... Mostly the automatic update that's in place there - commit something to the gimp-web module, and it'll appear there. We could even replace the broken news system (not being able to log in due to the missing auth config could be the only brokenness, though) by something different, e.g. a completely static front page for now. HTH, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Invitation to the conference
> Von: Jon Senior > "On Fri, 30 Apr 2010" > > ""Applications are accepted until May 20, 2010" - which has passed > already" > > Are you sure about that. Here in France we're only on the 30th > April. :-) Ah, ok. Apparently it is not recommended to write about dates if you're currently planning meetings for two months ahead... Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] help:how to use GIMP to Parse PSD
> Von: "Hades" > If I want use GIMP to parse psd file(photoshop file format) in my > program(C++ or Java),how should I do? PSD support in GIMP is based on an old version of the PSD format specification (the current one is locked away in the Adobe Photoshop SDK and can't be used with Free software, in my opinion). There's also a number of known bugs in regard to PSD support, i.e. do not expect that any program will be able to read some PSD files written by GIMP. > And I Have to read which part of GIMP SourceCode? http://git.gnome.org/browse/gimp/tree/plug-ins/file-psd When reusing code from there, pay attention to the license: the GNU General Public License Version 3 is what grants you permission to use the code in the first places, but also enforces the rules you'll have to follow. See http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html for an introduction. Regards, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Invitation to the conference
> Von: "Николай Шатохин" > In November 2010 the Donetsk National Technical University again > Conference's website: http://csconf.donntu.edu.ua/?lang=en English and Ukrainian verions only got content for 2009, and the Russian version has "Applications are accepted until May 20, 2010" - which has passed already. Regards, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] project gimp on sourceforge
> Von: Liam R E Quin > Someone has registered gimp on souceforge - > http://gimp.sourceforge.net/ > > I see there's a Donate Money link, and a non-working download link, > both of which may be harmful; maybe it's worth asking > sourceforge for this not-gimp project to be deleted? For the moment, yes. We could consider to establish a home page there (although we will most likely not use any of their other ressources), so I'll look into blocking that url for future use. Regards, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Mentor Request from GNOME Outreach Program for Women
Hi, we've been approached on the #gimp channel by Marina Zhurakhinskaya from the GNOME Outreach Program for Women. She has helped GSoC applicants with their applications and is currently looking for a mentor for the following project: Abstract: "Image editors overwrite originals of an image file with modified versions, causing originals to be lost by default, or clutter up folders with original and modified images. Some make copies of images and organise them in a predefined unalterable manner (e.g. date taken). This causes loss of originals and messy photo collections. The system being proposed would allow the user to modify images in any folder, and allow any modified image to be reverted back to its original unmodified version." Full version (minus personal data of the student, of course): http://www.fpaste.org/qLNt/raw/ If you are interested in commenting on or mentoring this application, then please sign up as a mentor with the GNOME organization. But keep in mind that ranking of the proposals is currently underway, so don't wait too long: http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/apply_mentor/google/gsoc2010 Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Mentors, rank the proposals
Hi, multiple important deadlines for Google Summer of Code happen on April 21: 0700 UTC : all mentors have to be signed up and assigned to the proposal(s) they want to handle 1700 UTC : ranking has to be finished An IRC meeting to resolve any double accepts for students will follow after that. So it is important that you clearly mark your favorite proposals by giving them a positive score. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Reminder: 21 hours left for applying
See http://tinyurl.com/gsoc2010-student-deadline for the countdown Apply at http://socghop.appspot.com/ Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Possible Future of ScriptFu/TinyFu with R6RS/Racket
> Von: Alexia Death > 2010/4/8 Aurimas Juška : > > I believe most users write script-fu scripts to automate commonly > > repeated steps. Therefore, it would be even better to complete action > > framework so that user could record commonly used action sequences and > > play them from GUI. > > I think script-fu would be ideal for such use. If you could record an > action, and then optionally convert it to a full script a lot of > convenience and ease of automation would be added. Writing out recorded actions in any language shouldn't be the problem... Regards, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Student applications can be submitted, mentors please sign up
Hi, the student application period for Google Summer of Code 2010 is on. Applications can be submitted until 2010-04-09, 19:00 UTC 1. Students --- To apply, visit http://socghop.appspot.com/ and follow the instructions. 2. Mentors -- Sign up at http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/apply_mentor/google/gsoc2010 and pay attention to your notifications. 3. Next important dates --- 2010-04-09, 19:00 UTC : Student application period ends 2010-04-21, 07:00 UTC : All mentors have to be signed up, all viable proposals have to have a mentor assigned 2010-04-21, 17:00 UTC : Application scoring period ends GIMP & GEGL GSoC home page: --- http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/gimp Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] GIMP has been accepted for Google Summer of Code 2010
Good news for GIMP and GEGL: The list of accepted organizations for Google Summer of Code 2010 is published, and the GNU Image Manipulation Program is accepted: * http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2010 * http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/show/google/gsoc2010/gimp We have two mentors: * Alexia Death (IRC nick: Alexia_Death or Death) * Martin Nordholts (IRC nick: Enselic) Our ideas list is at: * http://docs.google.com/View?id=dfbrn6hs_12c7h97fdc Please note that we're looking for students with some software development experience this year. The requirements are listed for each idea. Next steps == Student applications can be submitted at http://socghop.appspot.com as of March 29, 2010 See the GSoC 2010 Program FAQ for any questions regarding the application process and the time line: * http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs * http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline P.S. Please note that even though you you can't submit any application form until March 29, it's a good idea to get in contact with us as soon as possible - either on the gimp-developer mailing list (replies to this mail will go there by default) or our IRC channel #gimp on the server irc.gimp.org Happy and successful GSoC 2010, Michael Schumacher -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Google Summer of Code 2010 - Step 1: Looking for mentors
Hi, Google's Summer of Code is back for 2010. The program's goal is to get students involved with Free/Libre Open Source Software. See http://socghop.appspot.com/ for more information. Obviously, there is no point in applying as an organization if there are no mentors. So, if you'd like to be mentor, please reply to this mail on the gimp-developer mailing list (Reply-To is set). The following rules and notes apply: 1. Please describe potential project(s) in your reply Please be as precise as possible, without being too verbose (we're still at an early stage). 2. Describe the optimal student for the project(s) This includes experiences from their curriculum (useful lectures, for example) and extra-curricular experiences (e.g. building software on a regular basis, profound knowledge of color management, math genius, ...). Please note that if you decide that the project is suitable for beginners, it will be your responsibility to bring the students up to speed in order to be able complete the project in time. We're considering to request some kind of proof for a student's skills in advance, e.g. a patch for a gnome-love bug. 3. Be present on our IRC channel #gimp on irc.gimp.org We really, really expect to be able to just ask "how's project $foo coming along?" there and get an answer (not necessarily in a matter of minutes, but at least within a few hours; time zones are taken into account). Yes, this is basically a "no external mentors" requirement, and has been requested specifically this year. That's all for now, more information if there's at least one reply :) Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Wiki down.
On 23.01.2010 10:46, Jon Senior wrote: > Having discussed here the possibility of helping out with wiki admin, I've > spent the last week or two attempting to set up an account. "Attempting" > because wiki.gimp.org is not responding. I did query this in my original > email on the subject, attempts to ping it return: > >> >From soda-10g-edge.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (169.229.59.242) icmp_seq=2 >> >Destination Host Unreachable > > I can't find any references in Bugzilla https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=600757 HTH, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP T-shirts in our online store
Ismael Barros² wrote: > We would also need some admin/treasurer to give him access to the > sales and donations figures in our site. Is there any reason why this information should not be public? Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Quicktorials
Robert Martinez wrote: > My question concerns the identifier that links the functional part of > the application to the video: > > How do you think such an ID should look like? Completely customizable (preferably by the application maintainers, too) within a dedicated namespace for each application. Aliases should be possible. For GIMP, the help id that's used for the context help might be part of the ID. HTH, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] www.gimp.org/ircd.gimp.org outage
Hi, as some of you may already have noticed, there's a problem with www.gimp.org and ircd.gimp.org. Both hosts are currently unreachable. As far as I know, both services run on the same machine, so it isn't surprising that both are not available. We don't yet know what's causing this (although we've planted some rumors to spare everyone the need to come up with their own). I'm currently waiting for feedback from the server admin. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.7 tarball
> Von: Rob Antonishen > Maybe a better question is "When could I expect to see a 2.7.1 > tarball?" since, if I read http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gimp/tree/NEWS > correctly, there is a 2.7.1 You're not reading it correctly. This file is in Git, news items are added until 2.7.1 is released - and one of the first steps afterwards it to add a "Changes in GIMP 2.7.2" headline to that file. > Or will the 2.7.1 tarball only be generated once dev switches to 2.7.2? The tarball will be generated when 2.7.1 is released. HTH, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Progressive escalation of help
Sven Neumann wrote: > IMO you are making a problem here that does not any longer exist. Not > having a release of the user manual for 2.6 was indeed a problem, but > that has finally been solved recently. Instead of complaining we should > thank the GIMP documentation team for their hard work. And we should > thank Jernej for providing installers for the user manual. The installers are created with Inoosetup, and this tools allows downloadable parts. I've used this once for a small utility which was updated frequently. This happened in a controlled environment, though. I would rather see an additional page in the current installer than an installer that's double or triple the current size. Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] The mailing list uptime; ask GNOME to host?
Martin Nordholts wrote: > It is exactly that that is our root problem, we don't have such an admin. One > way to solve this is to move the list to a place that has sysadmins. A place like XCF at Berkeley? Contrary to popular belief, the mailing list server is not located in yosh's bedroom. I've mailed Vadim Kogan for the past two issues (expired SSL certificate and the recent outage), and he responded and fixed the problems quickly, even over a weekend. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Test
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[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Mentor Summit
Hi, there will be a gathering of (some of) the mentors of this year's Summer of Code on October 24/25 at Google's Headquarters in Mountain View. Each organization may send two mentors. Gerald has already expressed that he wants to be there (he's living one hour away from there), so it looks like we have one place left. Google provides reimbursement for the travel costs (up to 2000 USD for flights, to be precise) and pays for the hotel rooms (shared, two beds each). The wiki page of the summit - http://gsoc-wiki.osuosl.org/index.php/2009 - has more details. Regards, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
> Von: "David G." > In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 > crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. Nvidia has corrected the bug in at least some of their drivers, you might want to check for updates. I think that it had been XP in the cases I've read about, though. On a side note, I had a very hard time convincing users that this kind of problem (display flickers when using a selection in GIMP with a very specific Nvidia card, and others don't have the same problem) is something that should be reported to Nvidia. They insisted that the problem has to be in GIMP... Don't be afraid to send reports about bug you've encountered to any company, insitution, service, ... . If they never hear about it, they can't fix it. HTH, Michael -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP in-game feature
Bill Skaggs wrote: > To clarify the issue here, some names, such as "PhotoShop" and "Linux", > are trademarked and require permission in order to be used. "Gimp", > however, is not trademarked, so no permission is needed. Hm... http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/TrademarkGuidelines HTH, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Final evaluations have started, deadline 2009-08-24 19:00 UTC
Hi, there's one week to go in this year's Summer of Code - the final evaluations have started and are due on 2009-08-24 19:00 UTC. You can continue to work on your code, and we'd be very happy if you continue working on it after SoC. But please discuss with your mentor if they'd like some specific state to be tagged for evaluation purposes. I'm looking forward to the final results and want to thanks all participants for their efforts during the program. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP plugin for windows
> Von: "Matthias Röttger" > Hello folks, > One of my colleagues needs the “DBP” (David’s Batch Processor) for > GIMP. > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/dbp.html > > I was not able to compile the source on windows XP professional. 1.1.8 is available as a precompiled binary from the same page. Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Layers and possible space for performance improvement in GIMP
> Von: SHIRAKAWA Akira > What I wonder is if GIMP could someday get advantage dynamically, > automatically and in a transparent manner to the user of autocropping > extra borders from layers (without manual intervention) in order improve > performance when large canvases and many layers (the normality in > creative works, not so much when only retouching photos) are used. There's a long discussion about this in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93639 I'm not sure how much of this will change within a GEGL tree, so parts of this discussion could already be obsolete. Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] 10 days to go...
Hi, we're getting close to the end of Google Summer of Code 2009. The firm end is on August 17, the suggested end of coding is August 10 - the last week should be used for testing and bugfixing. Regards, Michael -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP windows installer sources?
> Von: Grigory Petrov > Is it ay way to look at GIMP windows installer source code? I have found > an unsusual bug: if python is installed unattended (python.msi -i -q) GIMP > windows installer will not allow to install GIMP python extensions. Python is not enough, you need PyGTK and its dependencies. These modules are installed as well? Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Show off your (midterm) results
Hi, we've got about a month left till the final deadline for Summer of Code - August 17 While working on your code to reach your goals, you should also think about how to present the results. There will be some who are unable to build your code, and if those who are might not be able to tell what exactly you've done. If you want to show off your results and present them the best possible way, you got to do this yourself. Use your blog or a document in the GSoC web app to tell others about your work, to show examples, do comparisons, ... Don't hesitate to do the same for your midterm goals. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Requesting survey status reports
Hi, there's a small problem regarding the midterm surveys. The Summer of Code web site (powered by Melange) does not show the midterm results to organization administrators. Thus I can't see if you've already complete the surveys. Please finish the evaluation in the next few days and let me know about it. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Midterm surveys have begun
Attention students and mentors, the midterm surveys for Google Summer of Code 2009 have begun. Mentors: the results will decide about the fate of student's projects. Please log in to http://socghop.appspot.com/ and follow the survey links in the navigation bar on the left. The deadline for the survey is July 13 at 19:00 UTC. If you have any questions or comments, please post to the gimp-developer or gegl-developer lists. If you feel that your inquiry should not be handled in public, feel free to mail me directly. Regards, Michael -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] WANTED: Automated GIMP for Printer
> Von: "Andy" > I need Gimp to be the ONLY program running in the system (eg Ubuntu or > others). It's like an embedded system, which launches GIMP whenever it's > powered up. It'll accept input IMAGE from other PC in the network and also > the parameters needed. Then, GIMP will process the image according to the > parameters given and PRINT via Gutenprint to the printer connected. Why GIMP and not one of the other apps (convert, mogrify, ...) that would seem to be better suited for this kind of parameter-driven image processing? Michael -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] GIT commit messages
Hi, I'm seeing the first commit to soc-2009-* branches. According to http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gimp/, two branches have been added already, and at least one other is in preparation. However, please make your commit messages meaningful. I've seen some commits that do only use a rather obscure version number. The commit messages should use a format like --- [tag] Short explanation of the commit Longer explanation explaining exactly what's changed, whether any external or private interfaces changed, what bugs were fixed (with bug tracker reference if applicable) and so forth. Be concise but not too brief. --- Talk to your mentors about the optional tags, they might want you to use special ones depending on what the commit covers. See also http://live.gnome.org/Git/CommitMessages P.S. Keep in mind that midterm sruveys do start next week. Regards, Michael -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Midterm project evaluations coming up
Hi, on July 6, the midterm evaluations open - and the mentors will have until July 12 to evaluate the progress of their students, and decide whether this is enough to - let them continue in GSoC - make Google pay the first half of the SoC stipends Mentors and students, please do agree on the desired midterm goals for your projects, and present them on the gimp-developer list. Regards, Michael -- GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Proposal: Scrolling of font field in text tool.
vabijou2 wrote: > If there is a better way to use the current tool, I'm open to advice. Roll over the sample button (which does also open the font selection dialog). HTH, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] hackmeeting @milan 19->21 June 2009
> Von: Carlo Frinolli|nois3lab > Il giorno 03/giu/09, alle ore 18:21, Carlo Frinolli|nois3lab ha scritto: > > > Here's the website > > > > http://it.hackmeeting.org > > > > and the wiki on which we're planning the meeting > > > > http://www.hackmeeting.org/_wiki/ > > > > > > Down here some info about hackmeeting. > > I just wrote again in inkscape mailing list too. > Anyone? I'd guess that some people are trying to figure out if your are interested in getting non-Italian speakers there at all, given that the wikiis all-Italian and the default for hackmeeting.org is Italian, too... Regards, Michael -- GMX FreeDSL mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.! http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-aktionspreis/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Request for Status Reports
Hi, I'd like to see a short status report from each of our SoC mentors. We're now one week into SoC coding, and I want to be sure that everything is going as you expect - or if it does not, I'd like to be able to supply you with any assistance you need. Please do reply on the list, or mail me in private if you think that your message is not appropriate for a public audience. Regards, Michael -- GMX FreeDSL mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate und Telefonanschluss nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.! http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-aktionspreis/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] HSL Color Picker
Christian wrote: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584338 A bit more text than just pasting a Bugzilla link would be nice. Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry
> Von: Alexandre Prokoudine > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Esteban Barahona wrote: > > i didn't felt welcomed in your open source project. > > you lost 1 very valuable hacker... > > That's what I heard from you two or three years ago in the Inkscape > developers list. Not a single sensible contribution and lots of > pointless emotions. Ah, it's good to see such mails put into the correct perspective. > Best of luck to you. Let's hope that this luck does induce changes that will spare other projects from his current attitude :) Regards, EOD (and EOT?), Michael -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GEGL GSoC Mentor would like to discuss projects at LGM 2009
> Von: Nicolas Robidoux > I mentor two GEGL-related GSoC projects this Summer, and would like to > discuss some of my ideas about implementing the two projects with more > senior developers who happen to be at LGM 2009 Montreal. Meeting during the lunch break might be a good option. Try to find someone who looks like some of the people shown here: http://developer.gimp.org/gimpcon/2006/people.jpg or there: http://www.flickr.com/photos/garrett/2733807768/sizes/l/ HTH, Michael -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Things to do until May 23
Hi, on May 23, the official coding for Summer of Code does start. On this date - or, preferably, some time before this date - everyone involved in Summer of Code for GIMP and GEGL should have assembled a working build environment for the current versions. This does involve using Git - which can be quite a change for someone who is used to other revision control systems. And depending on your platform, getting a compiler and all dependencies installed can be some challenge as well. Now is also the time to get your project plans into their final shape. Work with your mentor to set milestones and the corresponding dates. Mentors and students, please work together on achieving these goals. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Background color property for GIMP images
yahvuu wrote: > And i'm not aware of a raster file format which features that concept. PNG. http://www.w3.org/TR/PNG/#11bKGD HTH, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP & git - example workflows from some of our longer-term git users?
> Von: Nils Philippsen > On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 19:56 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: > > I don't think there is a need to reiterate a how-to on this mailing list > > for how to work with git. It should be quite enough to read: > > http://live.gnome.org/Git/Developers > > > > and other git resources on the web. GIMP will not have a super-special > > workflow with regards to git. In fact, there is no workflow set in stone > > yet, we will have to experiment to wee what works and what doesn't. > > Just a caveat since this isn't mentioned on the web page: Rebasing > changes on a branch modifies history, so don't rebase changes that are > publicly visible. Use rebasing only for your private changes which you > haven't pushed yet. See, it's things like that that I would like to see mentioned more frequently and accompanied by the actual git commands (if possible). Michael -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dslspecial.gmx.de/freedsl-surfflat/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] List of accepted students announced
Hi, Google has announced the official list of students accepted for Summer of Code 2009. They are listed on the organizations' pages, linked from http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 For GIMP & GEGL, the six accepted projects are: Title: Better nonlinear resampler with built-in antialiasing (GEGL) Student: Adam Turcotte Mentor: Nicolas Robidoux Title: Fast Adaptive Resampler Tailored For Transformations Which Mostly Downsample (GEGL) Student: eric daoust Mentor: Nicolas Robidoux Title: Improve Foreground Selection Tool Student: Jie Ding Mentor: Gerald Friedland Title: OpenGL GPU-based Buffer & Operations in GEGL Student: Jerson Michael Perpetua Mentor: Martin Nordholts Title: Proposal - Advanced GUI for brush dynamics (GIMP) Student: Zhenfeng Zhao Mentor: Kaja Liiv Title: Performance tools and study of GEGL Student: Henrik Akesson Mentor: john cupitt Congratulations to all students who are accepted. Keep up the good work during your projects! Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] GIMP & git - example workflows from some of our longer-term git users?
Hi, as you may have noticed (or will notice soon, at least when svn does become more and more outdated), GNOME is moving its source code repository from SVN to GIT. GIT should be available on all major platforms - via the package managers of most Linux distributions, and installers for Mac OS X (http://code.google.com/p/git-osx-installer/) and Microsoft Windows (http://code.google.com/p/tortoisegit/) However, most people will be inexperienced with using git, especially if they try to follow the "best practice" of a distributed revision control system - having 'git pull' tell you that it doesn't know what to pull from isn't that reassuring, at least. So we need an example workflow from someone who is already comfortable with git. A description that starts right at the first 'git clone' and includes the creation of a local branch(?), and the committing changes for others to see. This will be interesting especially for Summer of Code, as we usually want to have students their own branches, but preferably not local ones. Regards, Michael -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC: good job Michael
Nicolas Robidoux wrote: > I just want to let everyone know that many organizations fell into an > unintended "trap" having to do the Melange software used by Google to > manage the application process, trap in which Michael Schumacher, our > GSoC admin, did NOT fall. ... and no, this message does not mean that Melange is malware and/or does spread viruses. WTF?, you may ask... Someone seems to have read Nicolas' message this way and did ask on #gsoc. Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GSoC: good job Michael
Nicolas Robidoux wrote: > I just want to let everyone know that many organizations fell into an > unintended "trap" having to do the Melange software used by Google to > manage the application process, trap in which Michael Schumacher, our > GSoC admin, did NOT fall. This was s not a trap for anyone who did read the socghop user guide at least once and paid attention to the mentors list and the #gsoc channel. I do not blame any org for failing to assign mentors in time - everyone can make mistakes. But I am disappointed by those orgs which came up with attempts to justify or excuse their mistake on the soc mentors list. HTH, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] About futures features
> Von: Eduardo Barijan > Hello, it´s me again. > > I was thinking this time about 3 new other features that Gimp could have: Hi Eduardo, please have a look at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=GIMP, in particular the enhancement proposals. (384 currently; linked from the column at the right). I think that all that you have suggested is already listed there (maybe except the hide/show, but IMO that is a natural byproduct of having layer folders). It is good that you did post here instead of just filing a new request at Bugzilla - new features do usually require discussion first. Regards, Michael -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Number of SoC projects and project status
Hi, I've received a few mails from students asking about the status of their applications, and whether the lack of public comments does indicate if they have been rejected or are ineligible. I'd like to reply as follows: Number of projects -- Currently, GIMP has been given five slots for students projects by Google. Six of our mentors have found suitable projects among the proposals, and thus I have asked Google for an additional slot. All available slots have been distributed, however, so getting an additional one does depend on other orgs donating slots back - and Google's preference is to rather give organizations with less than five slots additional ones. Assume that we get five slots and have selected five projects out of 43. Status of applications -- We didn't add many public comments to any proposal. The existence or lack of public comments does not tell anything about the status, unless one of the comments does mention it explicitly. All applications have been reviewed. Yesterday, Martin has posted our current favorites. We are currently waiting for the duplicate resolution meeting tomorrow on April 15 (this is where students applied to more than one organizations do get assigned to one of them). After that, our favorites list should be mostly final. Google will announce the official list of accepted students on April 20. Until then, nothing is really fixed. We've only had very few applications (6 out of 49) that were ineligible - some because they did not contain anything we asked for in our application template, and some because their topic was totally out of our scope. Regards, Michael -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] [GSoC] (Almost) final slot count, final project ranking
Martin Nordholts wrote: > Leon Brooks wrote: >> On Tuesday 00:04:41 Martin Nordholts wrote: >> >>> Let's have this as a base for discussion. >>> >> My top would be Brush Dynamics, followed by Dynamic >> Resampler. > > I should add that I didn't sort the projects in any particular order in > my list ... and that nothing is final until Google does announce the accepted students on April 20. Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] (Almost) final slot count, final project ranking
Hi, Leslie Hawthorn just posted the almost final slot allocations (only going to change if some orgs to donate slots back at last minute). I've asked for another slot, but I'm not too confident that anything will change. So let's works on the assumption that we do get the five slots that are listed there. We need five definite favorites (Martin has started to adjust their score) - please agree on only one of the SIOX projects. We do also need a few runner-ups in case of possible conflicts with other orgs. The rankings have to be done before April 15. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Assigning mentors to projects
Hi, I've seen that most of the student applications have been reviewed by now., and some mentors did select their favorites already. It would be nice if we could assign mentors as soon as possible - this will help us to detect possible conflicts with other orgs, and will show Google that we are really up to the projected slot count. So if you haven't rated yet, please do so now. If you've already made up your mind about the projects you'd like to mentor, then please add a private comment that does tell this unambiguously. If you consider mentoring n out of m projects (m>=n), then please add this information to the comment all the projects that are involved. Thanks for contributing, Michael P.S. Please note that the default setting for comments has been switched from private to public. -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP-Python
Andrei Simion wrote: > Does anybody know where I can download GIMP-Python from? Our sysadmin > says that whatever he found on the Internet does not work. What did he find, and why does it not work? Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Attention, mentors!
Hi, thanks for taking the task to guide our students through Summer of Code. Please start reviewing and ranking the application now - private reviews go with the ranking and are visible to other mentors, public reviews are visible to the students, too. Besides the comments, please tell me how many students you are able to mentor. This could be 0 (help with review and ranking), 1 (should be the default) or 2 (I don't think that anyone should take more than two). Google does want an estimate of the projects during next week, and they are also looking forward to collect some statistical information about the applications. Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Student application deadline TODAY, 19:00 UTC
Hi, there is about 4:25 hours left until the student application period for this year's Summer of Code will be over. For a countdown, see http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=3&month=04&year=2009&hour=19 If you want to apply for GIMP - or any other oganization - do so now at http://socghop.appspot.com/student/apply/google/gsoc2009 After the deadline, our mentors will be looking at the applications and may request more information. Pay attention to the comments that are made to your application and reply to them. And please do not freak out if you do not start to getting comments at 19:00 UTC sharp, we have to read what you wrote after all. Regards, Michael -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Best way to run task at startup?
> Von: Frank de Lange > I'm looking for the best/easiest/most reliable way to run a task at Gimp > startup. The idea is to run the task once Gimp is up and running, with > all windows rendered and ready. The task at hand is this one: > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=852395 > > [ HOWTO: autohide GIMP dock windows using gnome panel ] Does the author of this thread know about the uses of the Tab key in GIMP or the window-management utility devilspie? I would have expected both of these options to be mentioned at least. Michael -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Menu plug-in
> Von: "Geertjan" > I am planning to develop a simple plug-in that will open a save dialog and > open dialog that lets you open/save directly to/from a webdav disk. I thought that this is supposed to be handled by GIO/GVFS (seomeone correct me if my impression is wrong). So I would expect that the existing open and save dialogs are capable of this already, although I've never tried this myself. Does you plug-in do anything special? Michael -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] [GSoC] About 4 days till student application deadline
Michael Schumacher wrote: > Hi, > > there are still a few days left until Friday May 3, 19:00 UTC. Friday APRIL 3, 19:00 UTC, of course -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] About 4 days till student application deadline
Hi, there are still a few days left until Friday May 3, 19:00 UTC. At that time, the SoC web application will switch student applications to read-only and new applications can't be submitted anymore. This means that: Students: - If you didn't submit your application yet, please do so now. Otherwise all the applications that are already submitted might get a head-start. BTW, a useful suggestion has come up on the #gsoc IRC channel (on Freenode) today: while editing your applications won't be possible after the deadline, the basic functionality of the web application will continue to work. This includes creating documents. If you create one for each of your applications and reference it there, you'll have a convenient way to add and edit information after the deadline. Remember: deadline is May 3, 19:00 UTC Mentors: Please browse the applications that are currently available and comment on them - either public (this makes application editable for the students) or in private if you'd like to request the opinion of other mentors. Would-be mentors & people interested in ranking applications: - Sign up and apply as mentors to GIMP. If you think that I might not be able to recognize your name there, then please post on the gimp-developer list first (I've already rejected two mentor applications because no one was able to identify the people what did try to sign up). If you do mention some possible mentors in either the ideas wiki page or mails, then please make sure that they do know about this. Either get them to sign up or provide me with their mail address, so that I'm able to contact them. I've seen at least two names that aren't appearing on the signed up mentors yet. If you want to help with the application ranking, then sign up as well - no one force you to mentor. Your input will be invaluable, though (neo, mitch, yosh; yes, this is about you :) Deadline for mentor sign up and ranking is May 15, 07:00 UTC Links: -- Timeline: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/timeline FAQ: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs GIMP & GEGL ideas page: http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/SummerOfCode2009ideas Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] A very simple feature that would be very nice...
> Von: "Hadrien G." > Playing with gimp lately, I've been thinking that it would be nice to be > able to save the toolbox state (and maybe other things related to > dockable window placement) in profiles. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151538 IIRC, GIMP can already be run started with different session profiles (see the --session command line parameter). A way to switch sessions from within GIMP may be useful. HTH, Michael -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] New features that should be nice
Eduardo Barijan wrote: > Hello Gimp coders! > I was thinking about 2 new features that would help a lot. > > 1 - the auto-save job. When you`re working and gimp crashes, your work > is lost =x. If not a auto-save, a .bak file that you can save as xcf for > recover work should be fine too. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138373 This lists some of the issues related to auto-save; the last few comments in particular. > 2 - An option to save custom collor palettes. Yes, sometimes you are > working on a big draw. Then when you finish a bit of the work and closes > gimp, the color pallete you were working is lost. And it is very boring > to keep note of any hexa code for colors. There are a number of enhancement requests about palettes. I guess that http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346884 might be an interesting one. But maybe that is not what you want, your complaint is a bit unclear. Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] GIMP has been accepted into Google Summer of Code 2009
Hi, we have been selected by Google for this year's Summer of Code. Many thanks to them, we're appreciating this greatly. Now it is our task to make the most out of this opportunity, both for our projects and the students who will be applying for them. Administrators & Mentors: - sign up at http://socghop.appspot.com and - check your notifications and/or - apply to become a mentor Also, please check if the projects you'd like to mentor are listed at http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/SummerOfCode2009ideas, and make sure that their descriptions are useful. I'd like you to be around on IRC and the mailing lists as much a possible in the next few days, because you're the best sources of information for students who are interested in our projects. If you've already got candidates, please make sure that they check the program FAQ for - http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs, especially the parts about eligibility: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/program/google/gsoc2009/faqs#age_limits Students: Join our min IRC channel #gimp on irc.gimp.org (http://www.gimp.org/irc.html) and our gimp-developer mailing list (http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html). Use these places to introduce yourself (briefly), and start to discuss the projects you'd like to - either one of our suggestions, or your own ideas. Regards, Michael -- Pt! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] List of accepted organizations due tomorrow
Hi, the list of accepted organizations for Google summer of Code 2009 is due tomorrow, on March 18. If you can't wait until then and need something to do right now, then: - visit http://socghop.appspot.com/ - click on the "Sign in" link in the top-right corner (you do need a Google account for this) The system will then ask you to create a user profile (if you wonder what the "link id" is supposed to be, then treat it like a username that will become part of the urls you do create; I did use "schumaml"). If signing in does seem to fail, then try to reload the page, or go to the "Report bugs" link and then back and do a reload. This seems to work for me. If we are accepted, then you will be able to apply to the GIMP organization as mentors (immediately) and students (a bit later). I will post status reports and reminders as mails on both mailing lists. Regards, Michael -- Aufgepasst: Sind Ihre Daten beim Online-Banking auch optimal geschützt? Jetzt informieren und absichern: https://homebanking.web.de/?mc=m...@footer. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Dockable Dialogs Should be Dockable Everywhere
> Von: hOSHI > Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > > > Customization is overrated. > > > Then why can i define my own window and statusbar format in gimp? > ;] There have been comments that there's too much information shown there, and most of it isn't needed, so imagine what might change in that regard... :) Regards, Michael -- Computer Bild Tarifsieger! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a -- Computer Bild Tarifsieger! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] [GSoC] Logo, Flyer, FAQ, Timeline, Project Proposals
Hi, the start of Google's Summer of Code is getting closer. They have published: 1. Official logos http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocLogos I'm planning to add a news item to www.gimp.org once they do provide scaled-down versions of their logos that can be used there. 2. Flyers http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/wiki/GsocFlyers Already translated into a number of languages, but any help to get them translated even more - and of course get them spread - is appreciated. 3. Program FAQ http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html Useful information, especially for people who have not been involved in the past years. Including the... 4. Program Timeline http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/opensource/gsoc/2009/faqs.html#0_1_timeline_5354032302481437_ For potential mentors: this means that you should be reachable for your students starting from at least end of April to end of August. Holidays are possible, of course, if this is know to either one of you and preferably other people (like organization admins) as well. 5. Project Proposals Our project proposals page is at http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/SummerOfCode2009ideas Before you add anything there, please drop by at the #gimp IRC channel (irc://irc.gimp.org/#gimp, http://www.gimp.org/irc.html) for a quick reality check regarding the proposed project - the developers will usually be able to tell if something is too trivial, too complex, too weird (as most of my ideas) or suitable for Summer of Code Regards, Michael -- GIMP > http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki > http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins > http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on a Commercial CD-Rom ?
Original-Nachricht > Datum: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:05:58 + > Von: "Alpár Jüttner" > An: Michael Schumacher > CC: gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > Betreff: Re: [Gimp-developer] Gimp on a Commercial CD-Rom ? > > > > By the way, isn't it enough to publish it on the net? E.g. one could > > > provide a link to the gimp website for the original source, plus > publish > > > their modification on their own website (or include only these parts > on > > > the CD)? > > > > This is handled by the FAQ: > > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#SourceAndBinaryOnDifferentSites > > That text is just as fussy as the whole GPL license. It may be because > of my poor English, The GNU GPL is available in several translation, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-translations.html Some of the sites might also offer translations of the FAQ, I didn't check this though. > but even after reading it twice, I have no idea if > it is legal for example (assuming I made some extension to GIMP) > * to sell a CD with my version of GIMP and provide the its source > on my web-site. This is covered by an FAQ entry: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DistributeWithSourceOnInternet GNU GPL v3 does make this legal; it's also common for GNU GPL v2 software, but you are required to ship the source by other means if someone requests this. > * to provide the source of my changes on my site, add a link to > GIMP website without any agreement, but periodically check if > gimp.org and the gimp project is alive, and publish the source > on my site only if they are dead. No. See http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DistributingSourceIsInconvenient It's in your own best interest to provide the source. Otherwise you're unnecessarily providing leverage to someone who might be looking for a reason to get your company into legal trouble. HTH, Michael -- Jetzt 1 Monat kostenlos! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
