[Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw file (using Gimp 2.9)

2015-02-19 Thread Alek _



I'm using Gimp 2.9 experimental build, which I downloaded from 
partha.com, to specifically have edit ability with 16-bit per channel 
images.  I originally posted in gimpforums.com and was told I should try here.



I'm trying to write a Python plugin to export an image as a raw file 
(just data, no header).  The current option to export as raw image data 
(File -> Export as -> Raw image data) seems to only support writing out as 
8-bit even when the image precision
 is greater than 8-bit.  So I wanted to write a plugin so I could export
 my 16-bit per channel image to a raw file with the 16-bit data 
preserved.

My image is a 16-bit grayscale 3x3 image with a checkerboard pattern of 
alternating white and black pixels.



I used the sample script 'test-discolour-layer-v4.py' from 
http://registry.gimp.org/node/28124
 as a guide on how to iterate through every pixel.  I have some 
questions and ran into some problems.  What I have so far can be seen here 
(http://pastebin.com/U49VZYVT).  It just iterates through the pixels and 
outputs values to the 
error console.



1. How do I query for the precision?  That is, I want to know if the 
current image is 8-bit gamma integer, or 16-bit linear integer, or 
something else.  I looked at the image object's attributes and didn't 
find anything.



2. When I get the pixel value from srcTile[x,y], the value is always 
8-bit.  With the white pixels, the value should be 65535 but I got 255.  How do 
I get the 
proper value?  When I use the Color Picker tool with info window, it says 65535 
for white.  How do I get that value?



3. My code creates a new layer from visible and then queries the pixels from 
that.  In my image, all values returned are 255 even for the black pixels.  
When I put my checkboard pattern on the Background layer and query that layer, 
I get correct values (though in 8-bit).  For any other layer other than 
Background, the values are always 255.  I don't know what I'm doing wrong.  


Can someone help me or point me in the right direction?

Thanks.
  
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw file (using Gimp 2.9)

2015-02-20 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Hi Alek_

it turns out that the Python bindings for GIMP had not been updated to
deal with higher precision images as of yet.

Don't despair - since you had built GIMP master, this is as good time
as any to get it going. :-)

You can get to know the image precision (and even set it) thorugh the
PDB, though, with a call to:

pdb.gimp_image_get_precision

Now - for the actual business: I think there are two ways to go - one
short term, with
a "get" and "set" buffer method on Python drawables that will just
copy the inner image data
and make it available in a Python array. That would suffice for most
needs like yours, I guess.

The other, longer term and proper way, is to write calls to get the
proper GEGL Buffer objects
in Python, using GEGL Python bindings - that will allow the use of any
of GEGL's operations
on GIMP Image data and commit it back - but it will also require the
python-gegl package.

Those bindings are currently living in my personal repo, and  could
work for you right now, as they do allow access to the buffer data -
but you have to build GEGL with the extra "--enable-introspection"
switich to get then going.
(http://github.com/jsbueno/python-gegl )

But -- let's focus in enabling one to get the high-depth pixel
contents from GIMP without need for those for now.
Feel free to poke me again in 24 hours if there are no news on this subject.

  js
 -><-


On 19 February 2015 at 23:06, Alek _  wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm using Gimp 2.9 experimental build, which I downloaded from
> partha.com, to specifically have edit ability with 16-bit per channel
> images.  I originally posted in gimpforums.com and was told I should try here.
>
>
>
> I'm trying to write a Python plugin to export an image as a raw file
> (just data, no header).  The current option to export as raw image data
> (File -> Export as -> Raw image data) seems to only support writing out as 
> 8-bit even when the image precision
>  is greater than 8-bit.  So I wanted to write a plugin so I could export
>  my 16-bit per channel image to a raw file with the 16-bit data
> preserved.
>
> My image is a 16-bit grayscale 3x3 image with a checkerboard pattern of 
> alternating white and black pixels.
>
>
>
> I used the sample script 'test-discolour-layer-v4.py' from 
> http://registry.gimp.org/node/28124
>  as a guide on how to iterate through every pixel.  I have some
> questions and ran into some problems.  What I have so far can be seen here 
> (http://pastebin.com/U49VZYVT).  It just iterates through the pixels and 
> outputs values to the
> error console.
>
>
>
> 1. How do I query for the precision?  That is, I want to know if the
> current image is 8-bit gamma integer, or 16-bit linear integer, or
> something else.  I looked at the image object's attributes and didn't
> find anything.
>
>
>
> 2. When I get the pixel value from srcTile[x,y], the value is always
> 8-bit.  With the white pixels, the value should be 65535 but I got 255.  How 
> do I get the
> proper value?  When I use the Color Picker tool with info window, it says 
> 65535 for white.  How do I get that value?
>
>
>
> 3. My code creates a new layer from visible and then queries the pixels from 
> that.  In my image, all values returned are 255 even for the black pixels.  
> When I put my checkboard pattern on the Background layer and query that 
> layer, I get correct values (though in 8-bit).  For any other layer other 
> than Background, the values are always 255.  I don't know what I'm doing 
> wrong.
>
>
> Can someone help me or point me in the right direction?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw file (using Gimp 2.9)

2015-02-20 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Getting there... no need to poke me for now -

GIMP 2.9.1 Python Console
Python 2.7.5 (default, Nov  3 2014, 14:26:24)
[GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-7)]
>>> img = gimp.image_list()[0]
>>> a = img.layers[0].get_data()
>>> len(a)
1228800
>>> a[0:300]
array('f', [0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651,
0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016, 0.0003035269910469651,
0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016,
0.0003035269910469651,...]

On 20 February 2015 at 09:50, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
> Hi Alek_
>
> it turns out that the Python bindings for GIMP had not been updated to
> deal with higher precision images as of yet.
>
> Don't despair - since you had built GIMP master, this is as good time
> as any to get it going. :-)
>
> You can get to know the image precision (and even set it) thorugh the
> PDB, though, with a call to:
>
> pdb.gimp_image_get_precision
>
> Now - for the actual business: I think there are two ways to go - one
> short term, with
> a "get" and "set" buffer method on Python drawables that will just
> copy the inner image data
> and make it available in a Python array. That would suffice for most
> needs like yours, I guess.
>
> The other, longer term and proper way, is to write calls to get the
> proper GEGL Buffer objects
> in Python, using GEGL Python bindings - that will allow the use of any
> of GEGL's operations
> on GIMP Image data and commit it back - but it will also require the
> python-gegl package.
>
> Those bindings are currently living in my personal repo, and  could
> work for you right now, as they do allow access to the buffer data -
> but you have to build GEGL with the extra "--enable-introspection"
> switich to get then going.
> (http://github.com/jsbueno/python-gegl )
>
> But -- let's focus in enabling one to get the high-depth pixel
> contents from GIMP without need for those for now.
> Feel free to poke me again in 24 hours if there are no news on this subject.
>
>   js
>  -><-
>
>
> On 19 February 2015 at 23:06, Alek _  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm using Gimp 2.9 experimental build, which I downloaded from
>> partha.com, to specifically have edit ability with 16-bit per channel
>> images.  I originally posted in gimpforums.com and was told I should try 
>> here.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to write a Python plugin to export an image as a raw file
>> (just data, no header).  The current option to export as raw image data
>> (File -> Export as -> Raw image data) seems to only support writing out as 
>> 8-bit even when the image precision
>>  is greater than 8-bit.  So I wanted to write a plugin so I could export
>>  my 16-bit per channel image to a raw file with the 16-bit data
>> preserved.
>>
>> My image is a 16-bit grayscale 3x3 image with a checkerboard pattern of 
>> alternating white and black pixels.
>>
>>
>>
>> I used the sample script 'test-discolour-layer-v4.py' from 
>> http://registry.gimp.org/node/28124
>>  as a guide on how to iterate through every pixel.  I have some
>> questions and ran into some problems.  What I have so far can be seen here 
>> (http://pastebin.com/U49VZYVT).  It just iterates through the pixels and 
>> outputs values to the
>> error console.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. How do I query for the precision?  That is, I want to know if the
>> current image is 8-bit gamma integer, or 16-bit linear integer, or
>> something else.  I looked at the image object's attributes and didn't
>> find anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. When I get the pixel value from srcTile[x,y], the value is always
>> 8-bit.  With the white pixels, the value should be 65535 but I got 255.  How 
>> do I get the
>> proper value?  When I use the Color Picker tool with info window, it says 
>> 65535 for white.  How do I get that value?
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. My code creates a new layer from visible and then queries the pixels from 
>> that.  In my image, all values returned are 255 even for the black pixels.  
>> When I put my checkboard pattern on the Background layer and query that 
>> layer, I get correct values (though in 8-bit).  For any other layer other 
>> than Background, the values are always 255.  I don't know what I'm doing 
>> wrong.
>>
>>
>> Can someone help me or point me in the right direction?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw file (using Gimp 2.9)

2015-02-20 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
Hi  -
I've actually comitted the above method - but beware it is subject to
some changes.

I've added the "precision" read-only property to gimp-images, and the
"get_data" method
to drawables (layers and channels) -
get_data returns a Python array.array object - it even features
conveninent methods
to write itself to a file (https://docs.python.org/2/library/array.html) -
For now, it  takes an optional string argument representing a BABL pixel format
(http://gegl.org/babl/BablFishPath.html) and will return an array of
the apropriate data type.
The default is "RGBA float" - but I think it would be better to change
it to default to the
drawable native data type- still allowing an explicit format to be passed.


I will probably keep it the return type an array, but possibly
subclass it to an object that can
take in 2D indexes to ease pixel access, as  currently existing python
"pixel_region" object allows
(thus: data[100, 50] will be as valid as data[50 * drawable.width +
100] to get to a single pixels.

On the short term roadmap there is a "set_data"  - (or maybe "blit ")?

And at the point in time it is possible to use gobject introspection along
pygimp (it can't be done in a straightforward way), make
drawable.get_buffer directly available and returning a Gegl buffer
wrapped in a convenient Python object.

On 21 February 2015 at 00:49, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
> Getting there... no need to poke me for now -
>
> GIMP 2.9.1 Python Console
> Python 2.7.5 (default, Nov  3 2014, 14:26:24)
> [GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-7)]
 img = gimp.image_list()[0]
 a = img.layers[0].get_data()
 len(a)
> 1228800
 a[0:300]
> array('f', [0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651,
> 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016, 0.0003035269910469651,
> 0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016,
> 0.0003035269910469651,...]
>
> On 20 February 2015 at 09:50, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
>> Hi Alek_
>>
>> it turns out that the Python bindings for GIMP had not been updated to
>> deal with higher precision images as of yet.
>>
>> Don't despair - since you had built GIMP master, this is as good time
>> as any to get it going. :-)
>>
>> You can get to know the image precision (and even set it) thorugh the
>> PDB, though, with a call to:
>>
>> pdb.gimp_image_get_precision
>>
>> Now - for the actual business: I think there are two ways to go - one
>> short term, with
>> a "get" and "set" buffer method on Python drawables that will just
>> copy the inner image data
>> and make it available in a Python array. That would suffice for most
>> needs like yours, I guess.
>>
>> The other, longer term and proper way, is to write calls to get the
>> proper GEGL Buffer objects
>> in Python, using GEGL Python bindings - that will allow the use of any
>> of GEGL's operations
>> on GIMP Image data and commit it back - but it will also require the
>> python-gegl package.
>>
>> Those bindings are currently living in my personal repo, and  could
>> work for you right now, as they do allow access to the buffer data -
>> but you have to build GEGL with the extra "--enable-introspection"
>> switich to get then going.
>> (http://github.com/jsbueno/python-gegl )
>>
>> But -- let's focus in enabling one to get the high-depth pixel
>> contents from GIMP without need for those for now.
>> Feel free to poke me again in 24 hours if there are no news on this subject.
>>
>>   js
>>  -><-
>>
>>
>> On 19 February 2015 at 23:06, Alek _  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm using Gimp 2.9 experimental build, which I downloaded from
>>> partha.com, to specifically have edit ability with 16-bit per channel
>>> images.  I originally posted in gimpforums.com and was told I should try 
>>> here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm trying to write a Python plugin to export an image as a raw file
>>> (just data, no header).  The current option to export as raw image data
>>> (File -> Export as -> Raw image data) seems to only support writing out as 
>>> 8-bit even when the image precision
>>>  is greater than 8-bit.  So I wanted to write a plugin so I could export
>>>  my 16-bit per channel image to a raw file with the 16-bit data
>>> preserved.
>>>
>>> My image is a 16-bit grayscale 3x3 image with a checkerboard pattern of 
>>> alternating white and black pixels.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I used the sample script 'test-discolour-layer-v4.py' from 
>>> http://registry.gimp.org/node/28124
>>>  as a guide on how to iterate through every pixel.  I have some
>>> questions and ran into some problems.  What I have so far can be seen here 
>>> (http://pastebin.com/U49VZYVT).  It just iterates through the pixels and 
>>> outputs values to the
>>> error console.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. How do I query for the precision?  That is, I want to know if the
>>> current image is 8-bit gamma integer, or 16-bit linear integer, or
>>> something else.  I looked at the image object's attributes and didn't
>>> find anything.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. When I get the pixel value from srcTile[x,y], the value 

Re: [Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw file (using Gimp 2.9)

2015-02-21 Thread Partha Bagchi
Hi João,

What's your timeframe for modifying pygimp to use introspection? I
have not yet built glib and friends with introspection because it's a
pain and it's finicky. :)

Thanks,
Partha


On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
> Hi  -
> I've actually comitted the above method - but beware it is subject to
> some changes.
>
> I've added the "precision" read-only property to gimp-images, and the
> "get_data" method
> to drawables (layers and channels) -
> get_data returns a Python array.array object - it even features
> conveninent methods
> to write itself to a file (https://docs.python.org/2/library/array.html) -
> For now, it  takes an optional string argument representing a BABL pixel 
> format
> (http://gegl.org/babl/BablFishPath.html) and will return an array of
> the apropriate data type.
> The default is "RGBA float" - but I think it would be better to change
> it to default to the
> drawable native data type- still allowing an explicit format to be passed.
>
>
> I will probably keep it the return type an array, but possibly
> subclass it to an object that can
> take in 2D indexes to ease pixel access, as  currently existing python
> "pixel_region" object allows
> (thus: data[100, 50] will be as valid as data[50 * drawable.width +
> 100] to get to a single pixels.
>
> On the short term roadmap there is a "set_data"  - (or maybe "blit ")?
>
> And at the point in time it is possible to use gobject introspection along
> pygimp (it can't be done in a straightforward way), make
> drawable.get_buffer directly available and returning a Gegl buffer
> wrapped in a convenient Python object.
>
> On 21 February 2015 at 00:49, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
>> Getting there... no need to poke me for now -
>>
>> GIMP 2.9.1 Python Console
>> Python 2.7.5 (default, Nov  3 2014, 14:26:24)
>> [GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-7)]
> img = gimp.image_list()[0]
> a = img.layers[0].get_data()
> len(a)
>> 1228800
> a[0:300]
>> array('f', [0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651,
>> 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016, 0.0003035269910469651,
>> 0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016,
>> 0.0003035269910469651,...]
>>
>> On 20 February 2015 at 09:50, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
>>> Hi Alek_
>>>
>>> it turns out that the Python bindings for GIMP had not been updated to
>>> deal with higher precision images as of yet.
>>>
>>> Don't despair - since you had built GIMP master, this is as good time
>>> as any to get it going. :-)
>>>
>>> You can get to know the image precision (and even set it) thorugh the
>>> PDB, though, with a call to:
>>>
>>> pdb.gimp_image_get_precision
>>>
>>> Now - for the actual business: I think there are two ways to go - one
>>> short term, with
>>> a "get" and "set" buffer method on Python drawables that will just
>>> copy the inner image data
>>> and make it available in a Python array. That would suffice for most
>>> needs like yours, I guess.
>>>
>>> The other, longer term and proper way, is to write calls to get the
>>> proper GEGL Buffer objects
>>> in Python, using GEGL Python bindings - that will allow the use of any
>>> of GEGL's operations
>>> on GIMP Image data and commit it back - but it will also require the
>>> python-gegl package.
>>>
>>> Those bindings are currently living in my personal repo, and  could
>>> work for you right now, as they do allow access to the buffer data -
>>> but you have to build GEGL with the extra "--enable-introspection"
>>> switich to get then going.
>>> (http://github.com/jsbueno/python-gegl )
>>>
>>> But -- let's focus in enabling one to get the high-depth pixel
>>> contents from GIMP without need for those for now.
>>> Feel free to poke me again in 24 hours if there are no news on this subject.
>>>
>>>   js
>>>  -><-
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 February 2015 at 23:06, Alek _  wrote:



 I'm using Gimp 2.9 experimental build, which I downloaded from
 partha.com, to specifically have edit ability with 16-bit per channel
 images.  I originally posted in gimpforums.com and was told I should try 
 here.



 I'm trying to write a Python plugin to export an image as a raw file
 (just data, no header).  The current option to export as raw image data
 (File -> Export as -> Raw image data) seems to only support writing out as 
 8-bit even when the image precision
  is greater than 8-bit.  So I wanted to write a plugin so I could export
  my 16-bit per channel image to a raw file with the 16-bit data
 preserved.

 My image is a 16-bit grayscale 3x3 image with a checkerboard pattern of 
 alternating white and black pixels.



 I used the sample script 'test-discolour-layer-v4.py' from 
 http://registry.gimp.org/node/28124
  as a guide on how to iterate through every pixel.  I have some
 questions and ran into some problems.  What I have so far can be seen here 
 (http://pastebin.com/U49VZYVT).  It just ite

Re: [Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw file (using Gimp 2.9)

2015-02-21 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On 21 February 2015 at 10:35, Partha Bagchi  wrote:
> Hi João,
>
> What's your timeframe for modifying pygimp to use introspection? I
> have not yet built glib and friends with introspection because it's a
> pain and it's finicky. :)

No idea on "timeframes" . Introspection as it is now, since GIMP
itself does not make use of it,
is mostly needed for the UI parts of Pygimp.  (i.e. changing from
traditional pygtk
to gobject introspection gtk)  - but I jsut remebered the major blocker there:
GUI building with gobject introspection is known not to work well with
GTK2 - we'd
need to change pygimp to gtk3.

That would not be a problem for Linux systems (hey, Pygimp used
TCL based Tk widgets when it first debut), it should be a nono for
packagers for Mac OS X and Windows.

Can someone who works on the installers  give me some feedback on that?



>
> Thanks,
> Partha
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
>> Hi  -
>> I've actually comitted the above method - but beware it is subject to
>> some changes.
>>
>> I've added the "precision" read-only property to gimp-images, and the
>> "get_data" method
>> to drawables (layers and channels) -
>> get_data returns a Python array.array object - it even features
>> conveninent methods
>> to write itself to a file (https://docs.python.org/2/library/array.html) -
>> For now, it  takes an optional string argument representing a BABL pixel 
>> format
>> (http://gegl.org/babl/BablFishPath.html) and will return an array of
>> the apropriate data type.
>> The default is "RGBA float" - but I think it would be better to change
>> it to default to the
>> drawable native data type- still allowing an explicit format to be passed.
>>
>>
>> I will probably keep it the return type an array, but possibly
>> subclass it to an object that can
>> take in 2D indexes to ease pixel access, as  currently existing python
>> "pixel_region" object allows
>> (thus: data[100, 50] will be as valid as data[50 * drawable.width +
>> 100] to get to a single pixels.
>>
>> On the short term roadmap there is a "set_data"  - (or maybe "blit ")?
>>
>> And at the point in time it is possible to use gobject introspection along
>> pygimp (it can't be done in a straightforward way), make
>> drawable.get_buffer directly available and returning a Gegl buffer
>> wrapped in a convenient Python object.
>>
>> On 21 February 2015 at 00:49, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
>>> Getting there... no need to poke me for now -
>>>
>>> GIMP 2.9.1 Python Console
>>> Python 2.7.5 (default, Nov  3 2014, 14:26:24)
>>> [GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-7)]
>> img = gimp.image_list()[0]
>> a = img.layers[0].get_data()
>> len(a)
>>> 1228800
>> a[0:300]
>>> array('f', [0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651,
>>> 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016, 0.0003035269910469651,
>>> 0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016,
>>> 0.0003035269910469651,...]
>>>
>>> On 20 February 2015 at 09:50, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
 Hi Alek_

 it turns out that the Python bindings for GIMP had not been updated to
 deal with higher precision images as of yet.

 Don't despair - since you had built GIMP master, this is as good time
 as any to get it going. :-)

 You can get to know the image precision (and even set it) thorugh the
 PDB, though, with a call to:

 pdb.gimp_image_get_precision

 Now - for the actual business: I think there are two ways to go - one
 short term, with
 a "get" and "set" buffer method on Python drawables that will just
 copy the inner image data
 and make it available in a Python array. That would suffice for most
 needs like yours, I guess.

 The other, longer term and proper way, is to write calls to get the
 proper GEGL Buffer objects
 in Python, using GEGL Python bindings - that will allow the use of any
 of GEGL's operations
 on GIMP Image data and commit it back - but it will also require the
 python-gegl package.

 Those bindings are currently living in my personal repo, and  could
 work for you right now, as they do allow access to the buffer data -
 but you have to build GEGL with the extra "--enable-introspection"
 switich to get then going.
 (http://github.com/jsbueno/python-gegl )

 But -- let's focus in enabling one to get the high-depth pixel
 contents from GIMP without need for those for now.
 Feel free to poke me again in 24 hours if there are no news on this 
 subject.

   js
  -><-


 On 19 February 2015 at 23:06, Alek _  wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm using Gimp 2.9 experimental build, which I downloaded from
> partha.com, to specifically have edit ability with 16-bit per channel
> images.  I originally posted in gimpforums.com and was told I should try 
> here.
>
>
>
> I'm trying to write a Python plugin to export an image as a raw file
> (j

Re: [Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw file (using Gimp 2.9)

2015-02-21 Thread Partha Bagchi
It should not be a problem I think since I work on both Mac and
Windows. GTK3 and friends build just fine for me on those platforms.

What problems are you envisaging?

Thanks,
Partha

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
> On 21 February 2015 at 10:35, Partha Bagchi  wrote:
>> Hi João,
>>
>> What's your timeframe for modifying pygimp to use introspection? I
>> have not yet built glib and friends with introspection because it's a
>> pain and it's finicky. :)
>
> No idea on "timeframes" . Introspection as it is now, since GIMP
> itself does not make use of it,
> is mostly needed for the UI parts of Pygimp.  (i.e. changing from
> traditional pygtk
> to gobject introspection gtk)  - but I jsut remebered the major blocker there:
> GUI building with gobject introspection is known not to work well with
> GTK2 - we'd
> need to change pygimp to gtk3.
>
> That would not be a problem for Linux systems (hey, Pygimp used
> TCL based Tk widgets when it first debut), it should be a nono for
> packagers for Mac OS X and Windows.
>
> Can someone who works on the installers  give me some feedback on that?
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Partha
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
>>> Hi  -
>>> I've actually comitted the above method - but beware it is subject to
>>> some changes.
>>>
>>> I've added the "precision" read-only property to gimp-images, and the
>>> "get_data" method
>>> to drawables (layers and channels) -
>>> get_data returns a Python array.array object - it even features
>>> conveninent methods
>>> to write itself to a file (https://docs.python.org/2/library/array.html) -
>>> For now, it  takes an optional string argument representing a BABL pixel 
>>> format
>>> (http://gegl.org/babl/BablFishPath.html) and will return an array of
>>> the apropriate data type.
>>> The default is "RGBA float" - but I think it would be better to change
>>> it to default to the
>>> drawable native data type- still allowing an explicit format to be passed.
>>>
>>>
>>> I will probably keep it the return type an array, but possibly
>>> subclass it to an object that can
>>> take in 2D indexes to ease pixel access, as  currently existing python
>>> "pixel_region" object allows
>>> (thus: data[100, 50] will be as valid as data[50 * drawable.width +
>>> 100] to get to a single pixels.
>>>
>>> On the short term roadmap there is a "set_data"  - (or maybe "blit ")?
>>>
>>> And at the point in time it is possible to use gobject introspection along
>>> pygimp (it can't be done in a straightforward way), make
>>> drawable.get_buffer directly available and returning a Gegl buffer
>>> wrapped in a convenient Python object.
>>>
>>> On 21 February 2015 at 00:49, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
 Getting there... no need to poke me for now -

 GIMP 2.9.1 Python Console
 Python 2.7.5 (default, Nov  3 2014, 14:26:24)
 [GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-7)]
>>> img = gimp.image_list()[0]
>>> a = img.layers[0].get_data()
>>> len(a)
 1228800
>>> a[0:300]
 array('f', [0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651,
 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016, 0.0003035269910469651,
 0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016,
 0.0003035269910469651,...]

 On 20 February 2015 at 09:50, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
> Hi Alek_
>
> it turns out that the Python bindings for GIMP had not been updated to
> deal with higher precision images as of yet.
>
> Don't despair - since you had built GIMP master, this is as good time
> as any to get it going. :-)
>
> You can get to know the image precision (and even set it) thorugh the
> PDB, though, with a call to:
>
> pdb.gimp_image_get_precision
>
> Now - for the actual business: I think there are two ways to go - one
> short term, with
> a "get" and "set" buffer method on Python drawables that will just
> copy the inner image data
> and make it available in a Python array. That would suffice for most
> needs like yours, I guess.
>
> The other, longer term and proper way, is to write calls to get the
> proper GEGL Buffer objects
> in Python, using GEGL Python bindings - that will allow the use of any
> of GEGL's operations
> on GIMP Image data and commit it back - but it will also require the
> python-gegl package.
>
> Those bindings are currently living in my personal repo, and  could
> work for you right now, as they do allow access to the buffer data -
> but you have to build GEGL with the extra "--enable-introspection"
> switich to get then going.
> (http://github.com/jsbueno/python-gegl )
>
> But -- let's focus in enabling one to get the high-depth pixel
> contents from GIMP without need for those for now.
> Feel free to poke me again in 24 hours if there are no news on this 
> subject.
>
>   js
>  -><-
>
>
> On 19 February 2015 at

Re: [Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw file (using Gimp 2.9)

2015-02-21 Thread Alek _
Where did you commit the changes?  I looked at 
https://github.com/jsbueno/python-gegl and it says the last commit was 
Jun 6, 2014.

I did find a way to get my values.  I found out that
 if I enable precision (pdb.gimp_plugin_enable_precision), the pixel 
array from srcTile[x,y] will contain the higher precision data.  I just 
need to concatenate the high/low bytes together through bit shifting. 
The comments for gimp_plugin_enable_precision says "Switches this 
plug-in to using the real bit depth of drawables" but I don't understand
 what that means.  Is this a compatibility thing, to make sure older 
stuff that always assumed 8-bit will still work?  So you're supposed to 
enable precision if you want to access to the new higher bit depth?

> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 02:54:51 -0200
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw 
> file (using Gimp 2.9)
> From: gwid...@gmail.com
> To: specta...@outlook.com
> CC: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org
> 
> Hi  -
> I've actually comitted the above method - but beware it is subject to
> some changes.
> 
> I've added the "precision" read-only property to gimp-images, and the
> "get_data" method
> to drawables (layers and channels) -
> get_data returns a Python array.array object - it even features
> conveninent methods
> to write itself to a file (https://docs.python.org/2/library/array.html) -
> For now, it  takes an optional string argument representing a BABL pixel 
> format
> (http://gegl.org/babl/BablFishPath.html) and will return an array of
> the apropriate data type.
> The default is "RGBA float" - but I think it would be better to change
> it to default to the
> drawable native data type- still allowing an explicit format to be passed.
> 
> 
> I will probably keep it the return type an array, but possibly
> subclass it to an object that can
> take in 2D indexes to ease pixel access, as  currently existing python
> "pixel_region" object allows
> (thus: data[100, 50] will be as valid as data[50 * drawable.width +
> 100] to get to a single pixels.
> 
> On the short term roadmap there is a "set_data"  - (or maybe "blit ")?
> 
> And at the point in time it is possible to use gobject introspection along
> pygimp (it can't be done in a straightforward way), make
> drawable.get_buffer directly available and returning a Gegl buffer
> wrapped in a convenient Python object.
> 
> On 21 February 2015 at 00:49, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
> > Getting there... no need to poke me for now -
> >
> > GIMP 2.9.1 Python Console
> > Python 2.7.5 (default, Nov  3 2014, 14:26:24)
> > [GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-7)]
> >>>> img = gimp.image_list()[0]
> >>>> a = img.layers[0].get_data()
> >>>> len(a)
> > 1228800
> >>>> a[0:300]
> > array('f', [0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651,
> > 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016, 0.0003035269910469651,
> > 0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016,
> > 0.0003035269910469651,...]
> >
> > On 20 February 2015 at 09:50, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
> >> Hi Alek_
> >>
> >> it turns out that the Python bindings for GIMP had not been updated to
> >> deal with higher precision images as of yet.
> >>
> >> Don't despair - since you had built GIMP master, this is as good time
> >> as any to get it going. :-)
> >>
> >> You can get to know the image precision (and even set it) thorugh the
> >> PDB, though, with a call to:
> >>
> >> pdb.gimp_image_get_precision
> >>
> >> Now - for the actual business: I think there are two ways to go - one
> >> short term, with
> >> a "get" and "set" buffer method on Python drawables that will just
> >> copy the inner image data
> >> and make it available in a Python array. That would suffice for most
> >> needs like yours, I guess.
> >>
> >> The other, longer term and proper way, is to write calls to get the
> >> proper GEGL Buffer objects
> >> in Python, using GEGL Python bindings - that will allow the use of any
> >> of GEGL's operations
> >> on GIMP Image data and commit it back - but it will also require the
> >> python-gegl package.
> >>
> >> Those bindings are currently living in my personal repo, and  could
> >> work for you right now, as they do allow access to the buffer data -
> >> but you have to build GEGL with the extra "--enable-introspection"
> >> switich to get then going.
>

Re: [Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw file (using Gimp 2.9)

2015-02-21 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On 21 February 2015 at 16:46, Alek _  wrote:
> Where did you commit the changes?  I looked at
> https://github.com/jsbueno/python-gegl and it says the last commit was
> Jun 6, 2014.
>

Yes - it works nicely for what it does - enabling access to gegloperators,
but tehre are new features needed (and bit-rot to avoid)

> I did find a way to get my values.  I found out that
>  if I enable precision (pdb.gimp_plugin_enable_precision), the pixel
> array from srcTile[x,y] will contain the higher precision data.  I just
> need to concatenate the high/low bytes together through bit shifting.
> The comments for gimp_plugin_enable_precision says "Switches this
> plug-in to using the real bit depth of drawables" but I don't understand
>  what that means.  Is this a compatibility thing, to make sure older
> stuff that always assumed 8-bit will still work?
> So you're supposed to
> enable precision if you want to access to the new higher bit depth?
Yes - I did not know this call, but it certainly is there for this reason  -
The commits from yesterday on pygimp however, will make it more straightforward,

The old way (tiles nad pixel regions) will be kept, if it is kept,
just for compatibility reasons.

>
>> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 02:54:51 -0200
>> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Need help with Python plugin exporting to raw 
>> file (using Gimp 2.9)
>> From: gwid...@gmail.com
>> To: specta...@outlook.com
>> CC: gimp-developer-list@gnome.org
>>
>> Hi  -
>> I've actually comitted the above method - but beware it is subject to
>> some changes.
>>
>> I've added the "precision" read-only property to gimp-images, and the
>> "get_data" method
>> to drawables (layers and channels) -
>> get_data returns a Python array.array object - it even features
>> conveninent methods
>> to write itself to a file (https://docs.python.org/2/library/array.html) -
>> For now, it  takes an optional string argument representing a BABL pixel 
>> format
>> (http://gegl.org/babl/BablFishPath.html) and will return an array of
>> the apropriate data type.
>> The default is "RGBA float" - but I think it would be better to change
>> it to default to the
>> drawable native data type- still allowing an explicit format to be passed.
>>
>>
>> I will probably keep it the return type an array, but possibly
>> subclass it to an object that can
>> take in 2D indexes to ease pixel access, as  currently existing python
>> "pixel_region" object allows
>> (thus: data[100, 50] will be as valid as data[50 * drawable.width +
>> 100] to get to a single pixels.
>>
>> On the short term roadmap there is a "set_data"  - (or maybe "blit ")?
>>
>> And at the point in time it is possible to use gobject introspection along
>> pygimp (it can't be done in a straightforward way), make
>> drawable.get_buffer directly available and returning a Gegl buffer
>> wrapped in a convenient Python object.
>>
>> On 21 February 2015 at 00:49, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
>> > Getting there... no need to poke me for now -
>> >
>> > GIMP 2.9.1 Python Console
>> > Python 2.7.5 (default, Nov  3 2014, 14:26:24)
>> > [GCC 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-7)]
>> >>>> img = gimp.image_list()[0]
>> >>>> a = img.layers[0].get_data()
>> >>>> len(a)
>> > 1228800
>> >>>> a[0:300]
>> > array('f', [0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651,
>> > 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016, 0.0003035269910469651,
>> > 0.0003035269910469651, 0.0003035269910469651, 0.6235294342041016,
>> > 0.0003035269910469651,...]
>> >
>> > On 20 February 2015 at 09:50, Joao S. O. Bueno  wrote:
>> >> Hi Alek_
>> >>
>> >> it turns out that the Python bindings for GIMP had not been updated to
>> >> deal with higher precision images as of yet.
>> >>
>> >> Don't despair - since you had built GIMP master, this is as good time
>> >> as any to get it going. :-)
>> >>
>> >> You can get to know the image precision (and even set it) thorugh the
>> >> PDB, though, with a call to:
>> >>
>> >> pdb.gimp_image_get_precision
>> >>
>> >> Now - for the actual business: I think there are two ways to go - one
>> >> short term, with
>> >> a "get" and "set" buffer method on Python drawables that will just
>> >> copy the inner image data
>> >> and ma