Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie
Hi, On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 02:34 -0700, David Southwell wrote: I have installed ports/gimpshop on my fFreebsd 6.1 system. I want to compare its functionality with photoshop with which I am extremely familar and use extensively on my Win XP system. Please ask on the gimpshop user list then. You might find that there is no such list. But we can't help you with gimpshop questions here. It is a different application and this is the gimp user list. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie
On Sunday 08 July 2007 02:41:26 you wrote: Hi, On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 02:34 -0700, David Southwell wrote: I have installed ports/gimpshop on my fFreebsd 6.1 system. I want to compare its functionality with photoshop with which I am extremely familar and use extensively on my Win XP system. Please ask on the gimpshop user list then. You might find that there is no such list. But we can't help you with gimpshop questions here. It is a different application and this is the gimp user list. Who is we.. I appreciate the helpful responses I have had from some people on this list. I just want to make clear that people who are accustomed to be positively helpful deserve encouragement and others, not of that disposition, IMHO contribute more to this worlld when they remain silent. Thanks David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie
* David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-08-07 10:36]: On Sunday 08 July 2007 02:41:26 you wrote: Please ask on the gimpshop user list then. You might find that there is no such list. But we can't help you with gimpshop questions here. It is a different application and this is the gimp user list. Who is we.. I appreciate the helpful responses I have had from some people on this list. I just want to make clear that people who are accustomed to be positively helpful deserve encouragement and others, not of that disposition, IMHO contribute more to this worlld when they remain silent. You are off base and *need* to curb your tongue. This is *not* a list for support of gimpshop which is a fork of gimp and totally unsupported here. AND you are remanding one of the *staunchest* gimp supporters. Get *your* facts straight before running your mouth (via your fingers). -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 16 Bit files
* David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-08-07 10:33]: Is there any chance of Gimp supporting 16 bit color in the near future? or is it doomed to be limited to 8 bit which is not really suitable for manipulating high quality digital images? Answered in the wiki. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie
On Sunday 08 July 2007 07:42:04 Patrick Shanahan wrote: * David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-08-07 10:36]: On Sunday 08 July 2007 02:41:26 you wrote: Please ask on the gimpshop user list then. You might find that there is no such list. But we can't help you with gimpshop questions here. It is a different application and this is the gimp user list. Who is we.. I appreciate the helpful responses I have had from some people on this list. I just want to make clear that people who are accustomed to be positively helpful deserve encouragement and others, not of that disposition, IMHO contribute more to this worlld when they remain silent. You are off base and *need* to curb your tongue. This is *not* a list for support of gimpshop which is a fork of gimp and totally unsupported here. AND you are remanding one of the *staunchest* gimp supporters. Get *your* facts straight before running your mouth (via your fingers). What facts have I not got correct? IMHO you are entitled to your point of view and I would not want to discourage you from expressing it .. after all I am sure you would agree that neither I nor anyone else is above criticism. Thank you David Southwell ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 16 Bit files
Then it seems like it will come some day. ;) http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/UserFaq#head-455dd92a98eee71c3c35de7fd48065e75d3c92ca 2007/7/8, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-08-07 10:33]: Is there any chance of Gimp supporting 16 bit color in the near future? or is it doomed to be limited to 8 bit which is not really suitable for manipulating high quality digital images? Answered in the wiki. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 16 Bit files
On Sunday 08 July 2007 08:05:45 Kim Johansson wrote: Then it seems like it will come some day. ;) http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/UserFaq#head-455dd92a98eee71c3c35de7fd48065e75d3c 92ca 2007/7/8, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-08-07 10:33]: Is there any chance of Gimp supporting 16 bit color in the near future? or is it doomed to be limited to 8 bit which is not really suitable for manipulating high quality digital images? Answered in the wiki. -- Patrick Thanks -- actually before posting I had tried a search on the wiki for 16 bit but got the search engine gave me no results - however- before I had a chance to ask you where on earth I could find it Kim pointed me in the right direction. Thanks anyway. Kim Thanks very much being so helpful and pointing me precisely in the right direction.. it is appreciated. Anyone... Finally does anyone have a handle on the timeframe for 2.4?? David Y ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.2.16 Release
Hi, a new GIMP 2.2 release has been uploaded to ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.2/ GIMP 2.2.16 is a bug-fix release in the stable GIMP 2.2 series. It fixes security problems in some file load plug-ins and improves robustness and forward compatibility of the XCF loader. In particular the following issues have been addressed: - improved input value validation in several file plug-ins (bug #453973) - improved handling of corrupt or invalid XCF files - guard against integer overflows in several file plug-ins (bug #451379) - fixed handling of background alpha channel in XCF files (bug #443097) - improved forward compatibility of the config parser - fixed crash when previewing some animated brushes (bug #446005) As usual, we only release source code. But for some of the various supported platforms binary packages are already available. Others should follow soon. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie
Hi, On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 07:48 -0700, David Southwell wrote: I just want to make clear that people who are accustomed to be positively helpful deserve encouragement and others, not of that disposition, IMHO contribute more to this worlld when they remain silent. I just tried to help you by pointing out that gimpshop is a different application and that you should try to get support for it from the people who did the fork. If you did that you might have found out that there is no such support. You might then reconsider your decision, but that is of course completely up to you. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] What tablet provides pressure sensitivity when used with Gimp under Linux?
Stephan Hegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Olivier provided you already a pointer to the Linux wacom project. It deals with serial tablets as well and everything is explained in detail there. Even an extra section is spend on how to enable this in The Gimp. Thanks for the information. For technical reasons I haven't been able to use my tablet for a long time, and the last time I tried it just didn't work. With the current releases of Xorg / LinuxWacom / Gimp everything seems to work fine. Thanks again, Johan ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie
On Sunday 08 July 2007 12:07:55 Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 07:48 -0700, David Southwell wrote: I just want to make clear that people who are accustomed to be positively helpful deserve encouragement and others, not of that disposition, IMHO contribute more to this worlld when they remain silent. I just tried to help you by pointing out that gimpshop is a different application and that you should try to get support for it from the people who did the fork. If you did that you might have found out that there is no such support. You might then reconsider your decision, but that is of course completely up to you. Am I not correct in saying that gimpshop a tool using gimp? Judging by the helpful replies I have received gimpshop is also of considerable interest to many users of gimp who use this list. It might be considerably improved by a being better supported by those who are advocates of gimp. I rather gather there are those who disparage gimpshop and wish it to fail and those who wish it to succeed but are afraid of offending some members of the former group. Maybe gimp could benefit from a more catholic and generous approach being espoused by everyone. IMHO the gimp community could benefit from the offer of an interface that more closely resembles photoshop. How that might be achieved maybe another matter. Your encouragement of all alternatives might lead to a wider adoption and respect for gimp. While I am sure you were not ill intentioned IMHO the tone of response did not make me feel welcomed or helped and I have reason for believing I am not the only one to have reached such a conclusion. Thanks David Southwell ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 02:42:22PM -0700, David Southwell wrote: I rather gather there are those who disparage gimpshop and wish it to fail and those who wish it to succeed but are afraid of offending some members of the former group. Maybe gimp could benefit from a more catholic and generous approach being espoused by everyone. Maybe the creator of GimpShop should have respected the GIMP community instead of rejecting it. He did not consult anyone on any of the GIMP lists at all as to proper approaches, or even showed any interest in actually making useful contributions. Since GimpShop rejects the GIMP community, we respect that decision and do not support it here. If you have issues with this, take it up with the people who do GimpShop. They can't reject the community yet expect simultaneously expect it to provide support. -Yosh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie
Hi, On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 14:42 -0700, David Southwell wrote: Am I not correct in saying that gimpshop a tool using gimp? No, you are not correct in saying that. It's a forked version and the person who did that fork refuses to work with the GIMP developers. We don't get any support from gimpshop, thus we don't support it. A wider adoption of gimpshop doesn't help the GIMP project. It just causes us more work because the gimpshop developer(s) let us provide the user support. They let us do the bug-fixing and they let us do the development. The way gimpshop is done makes it impossible to return anything to the GIMP project. And please mote that I did not send you away. I just asked you politely to ask your gimpshop questions elsewhere. Please accept that and stop this argument here. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GIMP printing in Suse Linux
I have a pair of printers on a SuSE 10.2 Linux system. I have the latest Gutenprint drivers installed for my large format HP-1220C inkjet colour printer. When I try to print from GIMP, the printer prints one line and then page after page of blank pages. Googling has shown that if I go to printer setup and remove the -ocraw statement from the command it will print, and it does, but the print quality is terrible, even on photo paper. I'm using GIMP 2.2.14 on Suse Linux, and the print driver I'm using is the gutenprint-5.0.1-1lsb3.1.i486. driver. When I print from Gwenview, the quality isn't much better, but at least it prints. Suggestions? Thanks, Bob -- Bob Smits Ph 250-245-2553 Fax 250-245-5531 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
