Re: [Gimp-user] 2.6.1 Bug??
Hi, On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 18:10 -0400, Stuart Culp wrote: I hate to sound dense, but if there is no File-open function, how do you get an image onto the page to start with? I tried dragging and dropping but that didn't work. It would help a lot if you would also follow the link that I gave you and read the release notes. When you start GIMP 2.6 there should be an empty image window. This window has a menubar where you will find the File menu. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Wacom Pen Buttons
Hi, I'm using Gimp 2.6.0 for Windows with a Wacom Cintiq 12WX graphical tablet. Whenever I press one of the buttons on the Wacom pen it comes up with the right-click file,edit etc. menu and the other button moves the canvas around. I keep hitting them by mistake and would like to disable this. When I try to configure the configure extended input devices box in the preferences window it lists only x,y,pressure,x tilt, y tilt and wheel and the keys tab is completely blank. Even when I disable the buttons through the driver application Gimp still seems to detect them. Can anyone help me find a way to disable this? -- Hroth ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.6.1 Bug??
Hi Sven, I did read all the notes, links and all the instructions available, but none gave a hint as to what was actually discovered by accident. When Gimp opens up the first time, the tool menu covers the entire screen. Since the tool menu always stays on top, nothing you do is visible and the File, etc. menu and images are hidden from view. I assumed that by dragging the visible screen smaller that the entire application was drug smaller, but it's not the case. When the tools menu is drug to the proper size, all is visible including the images. Maybe this is a simple thing which should have been obvious, but I would not have expected that the tools menu could be drug to full screen size. At any rate, all is now well. Thanks for hanging in there with me. Stu At 07:57 AM 10/23/2008 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 18:10 -0400, Stuart Culp wrote: I hate to sound dense, but if there is no File-open function, how do you get an image onto the page to start with? I tried dragging and dropping but that didn't work. It would help a lot if you would also follow the link that I gave you and read the release notes. When you start GIMP 2.6 there should be an empty image window. This window has a menubar where you will find the File menu. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GAP Onionskin Question
Greetings! Thank you so very much for all the wonderful, fantastic help you provided! My Summary of how I implemented your information is included in this post, below your very helpful post. Perhaps it will serve to help someone else who needs to do something similar? I hope so. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would recommend first reading the reference documentation that is included with the source code. Online at: http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gimp-gap/trunk/docs/reference/txt/plug-in-gap-onionskin-configuration.txt?revision=470view=markup Next, your scanned files should be named sequentially in the form frame_0001.pnm, frame_0002.pnm, frame_0003.pnm, etc. The frame part can be different, and the extension should match the filetype. The numbering should be consecutive with no gaps. Once your scanned files are named properly, you should open up the first one in GIMP, then perform a Video-Frames convert; specifying an extension of .xcf (you can change the basename and/or the directory path should you wish). You should then close your PNM image window and work with the copy. Yes, you MUST use XCF format for onion-skinning to function properly. Using XCF is also necessary for other useful GAP functionality (masking, selections, etc). As I've mentioned above, I'd like to be able to do two things: 1. Place one drawing over another and see the bottom drawing through the top drawing so I can lasso stuff in the top drawing and 'register' it with the bottom drawing. Use the following Onionskin settings... Reference Mode: Normal Onionskin Layers: 1 Frame Reference: -1 Stack Position: 0 [From Top] Opacity: 50% 100% Select Mode: All visible Auto create after load Auto delete before save should both be checked. All other settings should use their defaults. 2. Place two 'key frame' drawings beneath the top drawing, and be able to do an 'in-between' drawing on the page on top, seeing both the bottom drawings through the top page. Alter the above settings as follows... Reference Mode: Bidirectional (double) Onionskin Layers: 2 This will result in the onion layers appearing ABOVE your frame layer (not underneath it as you specified). This is, in my opinion, preferable so that you don't have to adjust the opacity of your frame layer to see the previous and next frame layers. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Recently, I asked a question about how to use the Onionskin feature of the Gimp Animation Package. The following is a Summary of what I did to align a series of drawings that had registration crosshairs with the crosshairs on the first drawing, so all the drawings would be registered with each other. The drawings were all scanned into the computer using a flatbed scanner. All the drawings were saved as PNM image files from the scanner. The directions I was given were good for onionskinning a drawing with the one right behind it in numerical order. I slightly modified those instructions to align all 62 drawings with the very first drawing. 1. Create new directory and save all PNM files to the new directory. 2. Change to the new directory, and create a directory: PNM 3. Copy all the PNM files to the PNM directory. This is a backup. 4. Open The Gimp. 5. File Open f_01.pnm 6. Video Frames Convert... Extension: .xcf GAP saves all the PNM files as XCF files, in sequential order. 7. Close f_01.pnm. 8. In f_01.xcf window: Video Onionskin Configuration... Reference Mode: Normal Onionskin Layers: 1 Frame Reference: -1 Stack Position: [X] From Top Opacity: 50.0 / 100.0 Select Mode: All Visible (ignore pattern) [X] Auto create after load [X] Auto delete before save Click [Okay] 9. File Open f_02.xcf 10. In the Layers window, make sure the onionskin_01 layer is above the Background layer otherwise, the onionskin effect can't be seen. I used the down arrow in the Layers window to move the Background down one. That will make the onionskin appear. 11. Lasso both drawings. 12. View Zoom to whatever magnification you need to align the cross- hairs. I used 200%. 13. With the mouse cursor inside the lassoed area, press the mouse button and drag until the crosshairs are aligned. 14. Click outside of the lassed area to anchor the drawing. 15. Right click the onionskin_01 layer in the Layers windows and Delete Layer. Clean up drawing with eraser, or whatever. 16. Save the file. 17. File Open f_02.xcf 18. Move the Background under the onionskin layer in the Layers window. 19. Video Onionskin Configuration... Frame Reference: -2 Click [Okay] What this does is makes the first drawing the reference drawing. On
[Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?
Re: HOW TO HIDE THE TOOLBOX DOCKS - Thanks!!! I was very dismayed when I first tried GIMP 2.6 and found the toolbox and dock always on top of my image window. It meant I had to have a smaller image window so I could see the whole image. In earlier versions, I was used to having my mouse set to activate and raise whatever window it was over. That way I could switch from toolbox to image window with a flick of the mouse. I could keep the toolbox, image window, and dock large and easy to see, yet instantly available. It took a while to get used to the new way, when I originally swithched from Photoshop to GIMP. Now I would never go back to the old ways! It didn't help that I did not know what Hint for toolbox/ for docks meant. Not knowing, I didn't try changing them. Thanks for explaining how to get 2.6 to behave the way (I think) it should! --- Gimpster --- Nope, I have never used GIMP on Windows! I only said now randomly. I think I was just letting know what OS I was using so no one had to ask. So originally in the developmental releases, the developers just had it checked in gnome to be always on top, and the ontop feature wasn't something intrinsic in the new GIMP? That's weir because when I used the developmental, I seem it remember it being more dynamic, like the toolbox would always be ontop of GIMP canvas, bu other windows like firefox would go over the toolbox. This setting in Edit - Preferences - Window Management seems to just make the toolbox an uber-window. Maybe I should go back to the developmental release, or am I not remembering it properly? On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Martin Nordholts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Snyder wrote: It's strange. All the developmental releases had toolbox always on top. I use Linux and now it is not on top. The only way I could get it on top is to right0click on the titlebar and select always on top, but then it's literally on top of every window, firefox for instance. Is there some way to enable on top. It's a bit early for me in the morning. Perhaps I am missing something. What happened to that wonderful on top toolbox from the Developmental releases? You say I use Linux now [...]. Did you use something else when it worked? In any case, what GIMP 2.6 has done is simply to change the default in Edit - Preferences - Window Management for Hint for the toolbox Hint for other docks to 'Utility window' instead of 'Normal'. This change in defaults was made possible with the introduction of the Empty Image Window. Perhaps when it worked you had those set set to 'Keep above' ? BR, Martin -- Sterling ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?
Hi, On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 19:26 +0200, Sterling wrote: Re: HOW TO HIDE THE TOOLBOX DOCKS - Thanks!!! I was very dismayed when I first tried GIMP 2.6 and found the toolbox and dock always on top of my image window. It meant I had to have a smaller image window so I could see the whole image. In earlier versions, I was used to having my mouse set to activate and raise whatever window it was over. That way I could switch from toolbox to image window with a flick of the mouse. I could keep the toolbox, image window, and dock large and easy to see, yet instantly available. It took a while to get used to the new way, when I originally swithched from Photoshop to GIMP. Now I would never go back to the old ways! It didn't help that I did not know what Hint for toolbox/ for docks meant. Not knowing, I didn't try changing them. Thanks for explaining how to get 2.6 to behave the way (I think) it should! You can set the window hints to Normal in the Window Management section in the Preferences dialog to get the old behavior. Or you can learn to use the Tab key to hide/unhide the dock windows when you need them. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.6.1 Bug??
Hi, On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 09:16 -0400, Stuart Culp wrote: When Gimp opens up the first time, the tool menu covers the entire screen. Looks like we are having a communication problem here. What is the tool menu?? Perhaps you could show us a screenshot of the problem? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GAP Onionskin Question
I have some comments on Bhaaluu's onion-skinning tutorial which is included at the end of this message. Step 9 instructs the user to perform a File-Open the second frame (f_02.xcf). When using GAP, you should not use File-Open to navigate frames; use one of the commands: Video-Go To (which is useful to assign keyboard shortcuts), Video-Playback (which provides some nice scrubbing functionality), or Video-VCR Navigator (which provides easy cut-n-pasting of frames). Not only will the operation take much less time, but some operations depend upon GAP managing the displays. Step 9 should instruct Video-Go To-Next Frame. In Step 8, the Stack Position line should have a 0 in it; specifying that the onionskin layer should be placed at the top of the layerstack. Stack Position: 0 [From Top] In Step 10, the onion-skin layer should appear above the background layer in the layerstack and it should be unnecessary to lower it (if the instructions in the preceding comment are followed). In Steps 11 to 14, it would probably be better to use the Move Tool to align the layers, rather than the Selection Tool. The method that Bhaaluu proposed will only work with older versions (2.2 and earlier) of GIMP, whereas using the Move Tool works with all versions. The Move Tool permits the keyboard cursor keys to be used for moving in single-pixel increments (or SHIFT-cursor for larger steps). This also eliminates the need to make a selection and the need to anchor the layer. Instead of performing Steps 15 and 16, just move on to the next frame. Because the onionskin setup includes the Auto delete before saving, the XCF file which gets saved (before you go to a different frame) will not have the onionskin layer. After you are done with all of your editing, delete the onionskin configuration, and use the Video-Frames Convert... command to save your results as PNM files. In Step 17, again File-Open should not be used. To navigate to the second frame, use one of the methods suggested in my first comment. Finally, the instructions of Step 19 suggest that using onionskin layers is not the best approach for this task. Onionskinning is useful if you want to align frame 2 with frame 1, frame 3 with frame 2, frame 4 with frame 3, and so on. It is not a particularly good method to align frame 2 with frame 1, frame 3 with frame 1, frame 4 with frame 1, etc. I would propose the following approach to accomplish the latter task (the first seven steps are identical to Bhaaluu's tutorial): 1. Create new directory and save all PNM files to the new directory. 2. Change to the new directory, and create a directory: PNM 3. Copy all the PNM files to the PNM directory. This is a backup. 4. Open The Gimp. 5. File Open f_01.pnm 6. Video Frames Convert... Extension: .xcf GAP saves all the PNM files as XCF files, in sequential order. 7. Close f_01.pnm. 8. In f_01.xcf window, perform an Image-Duplicate. A new Untitled image should be displayed. 9. In f_01.xcf window, perform a Video-Move Path. Change the Stepmode to None and change the Opacity to 50% (the From and To frames should be the first and last frames). Press OK. -- this will create a copy of the first frame as the top layer of each of the frames. 10. Perform a Video-Go To-Next frame. (You should assign this command to a keyboard shortcut. I have assigned my F5, F6, F7, and F8 keys to First, Previous, Next, and Last frame commands respectively.) 11. Activate the bottom layer (Layer-Stack-Select Bottom Layer). This is conveniently accomplished with the END key. 12. Activate the Move Tool (keyboard shortcut M). Hold down the SHIFT key and use the mouse to align your registration points (or use the cursor keys) Repeat Steps 10 through 12. This amounts to the following keystrokes: F7, END, cursor keys and should be rather quick to accomplish. If it is necessary to use the Rotate Tool, you will have to anchor the floating layer. 13. Go to the first frame (Video-Go To-First Frame) 14. Perform a Video-Frames Layer Delete and delete layerstack: 0 from the first to the last frame (leaving only your background). 15. Perform a Video-Frames Convert... as in Step 6, only change the extension to .pnm. The GAP is rather intimidating at first; but it can be a powerful tool for accomplishing repetitive image editing tasks, not just animations. == == START OF QUOTED TUTORIAL == == On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Bhaaluu wrote: Recently, I asked a question about how to use the Onionskin feature of the Gimp Animation Package. The following is a Summary of what I did to align a series of drawings that had registration crosshairs with the crosshairs on the first drawing, so all the drawings would be registered with each other. The drawings were all
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6 Desktop layout
stomfi wrote: How does one stop the tool box and layers dialogs from covering the image in GIMP 2.6? In previous versions these windows were able to be underneath a large image on a small screen. The new layout in 2.6 diminishes ease of use. Hi! Edit - Preferences - Window Management and set the hints to 'Normal window'. BR, Martin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6 Desktop layout
Hi, On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 14:43 +1000, stomfi wrote: How does one stop the tool box and layers dialogs from covering the image in GIMP 2.6? You can hide/unhide the tools and docks as needed by using the Tab key. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
