Re: [Gimp-user] 2.6.1 Bug??

2008-10-24 Thread lostgeorge
Stuart , I don't know if your problem was resolved , and you didn't say what
OS...but I had the same problems loading 2.6.1  under windows vista , if so
, when gimp starts is it showing the same old splash screen  or the new one?
what I had to do was delete  all the folders in ' users' and a few strange
places , I did a search on 'gimp' and got rid of all  parts of the old
installs and then it installed clean...
ghk
- Original Message -
From: Stuart Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: [Gimp-user] 2.6.1 Bug??


 I have been using ver 2.4.5.  I downloaded and installed ver 2.6.1.  The
 line above the tools which contains File, Xtns and Help is missing. I tried
 deleting and reloading it several times, but it is still missing. Finally,
 I went back to 2.4.5 and it's OK.  I thought that maybe there was a command
 or something I could do to get it, but no luck.

 Am I missing something, or is this a bug?

 Stu Culp

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.6.1 Bug??

2008-10-24 Thread lostgeorge
Stuart ,
here is a link in a other forum of my fight
http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/windows-2-6-1install-making-me-nuts-t34840s75.html

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Stuart , I don't know if your problem was resolved , and you didn't say what
 OS...but I had the same problems loading 2.6.1  under windows vista , if so
 , when gimp starts is it showing the same old splash screen  or the new one?
 what I had to do was delete  all the folders in ' users' and a few strange
 places , I did a search on 'gimp' and got rid of all  parts of the old
 installs and then it installed clean...
 ghk
 - Original Message -
 From: Stuart Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:41 PM
 Subject: [Gimp-user] 2.6.1 Bug??


 I have been using ver 2.4.5.  I downloaded and installed ver 2.6.1.  The
 line above the tools which contains File, Xtns and Help is missing. I tried
 deleting and reloading it several times, but it is still missing. Finally,
 I went back to 2.4.5 and it's OK.  I thought that maybe there was a command
 or something I could do to get it, but no luck.

 Am I missing something, or is this a bug?

 Stu Culp

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6 Desktop layout

2008-10-24 Thread Mario Valle
Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,

 On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 14:43 +1000, stomfi wrote:
   
 How does one stop the tool box and layers dialogs from covering the 
 image in GIMP 2.6?
 

 You can hide/unhide the tools and docks as needed by using the Tab key.


 Sven


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Yes, but when the focus is on the toolbox window, the Tab key moves 
between tools, I had to click again on the image window and then use the 
Tab key.
Is there anything simpler. And yes, I like (almost) the new behaviour. 
At least you do not lose the toolbox when work full screen.
Thanks!
mario

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Re: [Gimp-user] GAP Onionskin Question

2008-10-24 Thread bhaaluu
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:14 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have some comments on Bhaaluu's onion-skinning tutorial which is
 included at the end of this message.

WOW! Your comments and suggestions are invaluable! This post is a keeper.

One other little thing that I did that I found very helpful. Usually a
pencil-test
that is made into a video doesn't translate very well into an MPEG video because
the pencil lines are too light/thin, or something. What I did to make the lines
darker was this on each PPM that I saved:

Filters  Artistic  Cartoon...
  [X] Preview
  Mask Radius: 23.27
  Percent black: 0.500

Now, I really don't know what those things do, so I just played with the sliders
until I got what I wanted. What I wanted just turned out to be the
above settings.

I can't wait to try the new tutorial out!
Gimp-GAP tutorials are hard to find, even with Google, so this is a jewel.
Thank you ever so much, saulgoode.
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Kid on Bus: What are you gonna do today, Napoleon?
Napoleon Dynamite: Whatever I feel like I wanna do. Gosh!


 Step 9 instructs the user to perform a File-Open the second frame
 (f_02.xcf). When using GAP, you should not use File-Open to
 navigate frames; use one of the commands: Video-Go To (which is
 useful to assign keyboard shortcuts), Video-Playback (which
 provides some nice scrubbing functionality), or Video-VCR
 Navigator (which provides easy cut-n-pasting of frames). Not only
 will the operation take much less time, but some operations depend
 upon GAP managing the displays. Step 9 should instruct Video-Go
 To-Next Frame.

 In Step 8, the Stack Position line should have a 0 in it; specifying
 that the onionskin layer should be placed at the top of the layerstack.
Stack Position: 0 [From Top]

 In Step 10, the onion-skin layer should appear above the background
 layer in the layerstack and it should be unnecessary to lower it (if
 the instructions in the preceding comment are followed).

 In Steps 11 to 14, it would probably be better to use the Move Tool to
 align the layers, rather than the Selection Tool. The method that
 Bhaaluu proposed will only work with older versions (2.2 and earlier)
 of GIMP, whereas using the Move Tool works with all versions. The Move
 Tool permits the keyboard cursor keys to be used for moving in
 single-pixel increments (or SHIFT-cursor for larger steps). This also
 eliminates the need to make a selection and the need to anchor the
 layer.

 Instead of performing Steps 15 and 16, just move on to the next frame.
 Because the onionskin setup includes the Auto delete before saving,
 the XCF file which gets saved (before you go to a different frame)
 will not have the onionskin layer. After you are done with all of your
 editing, delete the onionskin configuration, and use the
 Video-Frames Convert... command to save your results as PNM files.

 In Step 17, again File-Open should not be used. To navigate to the
 second frame, use one of the methods suggested in my first comment.

 Finally, the instructions of Step 19 suggest that using onionskin
 layers is not the best approach for this task. Onionskinning is useful
 if you want to align frame 2 with frame 1, frame 3 with frame 2, frame
 4 with frame 3, and so on. It is not a particularly good method to
 align frame 2 with frame 1, frame 3 with frame 1, frame 4 with frame
 1, etc.

 I would propose the following approach to accomplish the latter task
 (the first seven steps are identical to Bhaaluu's tutorial):

  1. Create new directory and save all PNM files to the new directory.
  2. Change to the new directory, and create a directory: PNM
  3. Copy all the PNM files to the PNM directory. This is a backup.
  4. Open The Gimp.
  5. File  Open  f_01.pnm
  6. Video  Frames Convert...
 Extension: .xcf
 GAP saves all the PNM files as XCF files, in sequential order.
  7. Close f_01.pnm.
  8. In f_01.xcf window, perform an Image-Duplicate. A new
 Untitled image should be displayed.
  9. In f_01.xcf window, perform a Video-Move Path. Change the
 Stepmode to None and change the Opacity to 50% (the From and To
 frames should be the first and last frames). Press OK. -- this will
 create a copy of the first frame as the top layer of each of the frames.
  10. Perform a Video-Go To-Next frame. (You should assign this
 command to a keyboard shortcut. I have assigned my F5, F6, F7, and F8
 keys to First, Previous, Next, and Last frame commands respectively.)

  11. Activate the bottom layer (Layer-Stack-Select Bottom Layer).
 This is conveniently accomplished with the END key.
  12. Activate the Move Tool (keyboard shortcut M). Hold down the
 SHIFT key and use the mouse to align your registration points (or use
 the cursor keys)

 Repeat Steps 10 through 12. This amounts to the following keystrokes:
 F7, END, cursor keys and should be rather quick to accomplish. If it
 is necessary to use the Rotate Tool, you will have to anchor the
 floating 

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6 Desktop layout

2008-10-24 Thread Tobias Jakobs
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Mario Valle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sven Neumann wrote:

 You can hide/unhide the tools and docks as needed by using the Tab key.

 Yes, but when the focus is on the toolbox window, the Tab key moves
 between tools, I had to click again on the image window and then use the
 Tab key.

I had this problem too and tried to change the shortcut to F12, like it is in
Inkscape, but I was not able to find it in the keyboard settings.
Is it at all possible to change the shortcut for this function?

Regards,
Tobias
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6 Desktop layout

2008-10-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 16:21 +0200, Tobias Jakobs wrote:

 
 I had this problem too and tried to change the shortcut to F12, like it is in
 Inkscape, but I was not able to find it in the keyboard settings.
 Is it at all possible to change the shortcut for this function?

No, it is not a shortcut in that sense. It can't be reconfigured by the
user.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.6.1 Bug??

2008-10-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 13:45 -0400, Stuart Culp wrote:

 When I opened Gimp the screen presented was gimpopenscreen.jpg
 (below).  The main menu was not visible, so I opened (via keys) an
 image as shown by the tab at the bottom, but I had expected it to open
 in the general area designated by you can drop dockable dialogs here.

You had a GIMP 2.2 or a GIMP 2.4 installation on this computer, right?
If you could make the sessionrc file from your the ~/.gimp-2.2 or
~/.gimp-2.4 folder available, then we might be able to figure out what
went wrong and improve the migration from older versions.


Sven


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[Gimp-user] but toolbox and dock do NOT stay above imagewindow in ver2.6?

2008-10-24 Thread Sterling
Thanks Sven...
I got so set in my ways that I completely forgot about using the Tab key. I
have to agree that technique works extremely well, also.

  --- Gimpster ---

Sven wrote:

You can set the window hints to Normal in the Window Management
section in the Preferences dialog to get the old behavior. Or you can
learn to use the Tab key to hide/unhide the dock windows when you need
them.


Sven




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