Re: [Gimp-user] how to make condensed text along path

2009-06-15 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Owen wrote:

 I wonder why you can't use Inkscape to do this?
   
Because I tried.

In inkscape you can make the text object as thing as you want, but as
soon as you make it follow a path it automatically change back to the
original ratio.
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[Gimp-user] Modify text on a jpg file with gimp 2.6.4

2009-06-15 Thread powah
I want to modify text on a jpg file with gimp 2.6.4.
After I click the text with a mouse, the gimp text editor appear without the
text I just clicked.
I had read that I should select the text layer.
What does it mean?
Please help.
Thanks.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Modify text on a jpg file with gimp 2.6.4

2009-06-15 Thread Daniel Hornung
Hello!

On Monday 15 June 2009, powah wrote:
 I want to modify text on a jpg file
 ...
 I had read that I should select the text layer.
 What does it mean?

That means that there is no text layer. jpg files don't know about text, just 
about pixels.  If you saved the image yourself as jpg, you should have 
received a small warning box saying you'll lose all layer information in that 
format.  If someone else gave you the jpg, complain to them :)

If you want to keep all (or nearly all) information about your layers, modes, 
masks, selection and text, you should save the image as xcf, that's GIMP's 
own format.

I hope this isn't too bad news for you...
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Re: [Gimp-user] Modify text on a jpg file with gimp 2.6.4

2009-06-15 Thread powah
The jpg file is exported from a visio file embedded in a ms word document.
Instead of using the jpg file format, what else should I use to keep the text
information?
What about gif file?

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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I effectively use a blue screen scanning method with gimp

2009-06-15 Thread Jay Smith
On 06/13/2009 02:46 PM, Chris Mohler wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Jay Smithj...@jaysmith.com wrote:
 [big snip]
 So

 I am hoping for suggestions as to a) how to avoid the color shadow of
 using a colored background and b) if it cannot be avoided, how to fix it
 in gimp without a lot of messing around and/or other color distortion
 problems.
 
 Have you tried putting something heavy on the colored background (I
 tend to use a thick book)?  This may reduce or eliminate the shadow.
 
 Have you tried reducing the wand (or select by color) tool's threshold
 when selecting the black background?  I would guess that the postmark
 color and the background color differ at least slightly.
 
 A couple of the raw scans of the stamps might be useful for analysis.
 
 Chris

Yes, we have weighted the item on the scanning bed.

The scanner is able to pick up the thickness of the postage stamp paper
(the shadow caused thereby) because from either the leading or trailing
direction, the light source causes a very slight shadow that the scanner
detects.

And, yes, we have played extensively with the selection tool's
threshold.  Doing so solves problems in some spots, but creates problems
in others.  The shades of black are quite variable.


===

Using a blue screen method in which I would use a background of some
outrageous color that is not present anywhere in the items to be
scanned, what would the best tool/method to use to select and eliminate
ALL of that color?  Again, the problem is that the background itself can
be removed, but at the above described shadow edge, there is a
gradation of color.  Of course the catch is that there is no background
color will work all the time.  I can't simply delete all reds or all
blues or all ...whatever.

Ideas?

Jay
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Re: [Gimp-user] Modify text on a jpg file with gimp 2.6.4

2009-06-15 Thread Simon Budig
powah (wong_po...@yahoo.ca) wrote:
 The jpg file is exported from a visio file embedded in a ms word document.
 Instead of using the jpg file format, what else should I use to keep the text
 information?

Unfortunately I don't see a way for you to keep the text information
here. You probably have to just use visio to edit the text until it
shows the text you want, and then import it into the GIMP and apply
whatever graphical effects you wanted to add.

Keep in mind that GIMP is a pixel based program and not a diagram
editor.

 What about gif file?

Won't help. Basically our own XCF format is the only format that can
store GIMPs text layer information in an editable manner and there are
no other programs writing such files, especially not from microsoft...
:-)

Bye,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Modify text on a jpg file with gimp 2.6.4

2009-06-15 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Monday 15 June 2009, powah wrote:
 The jpg file is exported from a visio file embedded in a ms word document.
 Instead of using the jpg file format, what else should I use to keep the
 text information?

You could try to export to either svg (better) or pdf (not quite as good) and 
open the result in Inkscape (another free program).  I sometimes have good 
results with that.  If you need to open it in GIMP, there's not much you can 
do, I'm afraid.

Daniel


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Re: [Gimp-user] how to make condensed text along path

2009-06-15 Thread Chris Mohler
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Zhang Weiwuzhangwe...@realss.com wrote:
 Owen wrote:

 I wonder why you can't use Inkscape to do this?

 Because I tried.

Yeah - I tried Inkscape first too - there seems to be no way to
condense the text once it's on a path.  Did you try Scribus?

Chris
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[Gimp-user] How do I get a smooth diagonal line

2009-06-15 Thread DJ
Hi Gimp-user,

See the plain-old wooden fence at the top of this page.
http://www.artsconnected.org/toolkit/encyc_linetypes.html
Simply, right :-)  I wanted practice drawing lines, shapes, and
coloring them.

I created the vertical and horizontal with the Rectangle Select Tool
and Select  Stroke Selection, Paint Tool set to Pencil Circle (01),
Scale set to 2.

To create the diagonal I still used the Rectangle Select Tool, then
Rotate Tool, then Select  Stroke Selection. But the line is very
jagged, and it looks different than the horizontal and vertical.

I tried just using the Pencil, then the Paint brush (holding the Shift
key to get a straight line). I changed to a fuzzy brush.

How does one get a smooth diagonal line, like the one in the picture.

Thank you.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get a smooth diagonal line

2009-06-15 Thread David Gowers
Are you looking for click, move to line end, shift-click??

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:48 AM, DJdelphit...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi Gimp-user,

 See the plain-old wooden fence at the top of this page.
 http://www.artsconnected.org/toolkit/encyc_linetypes.html
 Simply, right :-)  I wanted practice drawing lines, shapes, and
 coloring them.

 I created the vertical and horizontal with the Rectangle Select Tool
 and Select  Stroke Selection, Paint Tool set to Pencil Circle (01),
 Scale set to 2.

 To create the diagonal I still used the Rectangle Select Tool, then
 Rotate Tool, then Select  Stroke Selection. But the line is very
 jagged, and it looks different than the horizontal and vertical.

 I tried just using the Pencil, then the Paint brush (holding the Shift
 key to get a straight line). I changed to a fuzzy brush.

 How does one get a smooth diagonal line, like the one in the picture.

 Thank you.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get a smooth diagonal line

2009-06-15 Thread DJ
Hi David, gimp-users,

 Are you looking for click, move to line end, shift-click??

I can draw, or a better way to say it, I can create a line or
selection for that matter -- the marching ants. I can technically
create a line with the Pencil and Paint Brush.

But, I can't make it look nice. I can't get the diagonal to look
like the picture, so it just looks like another board. I can very
clearly see the steps of the diagonal. If I enlarge the image the
diagonal line looks similar to (assumes fixed font email):

  ^
  ^
  ^


Thank you.
DJ



 On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:48 AM, DJdelphit...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi Gimp-user,

 See the plain-old wooden fence at the top of this page.
 http://www.artsconnected.org/toolkit/encyc_linetypes.html
 Simply, right :-)  I wanted practice drawing lines, shapes, and
 coloring them.

 I created the vertical and horizontal with the Rectangle Select Tool
 and Select  Stroke Selection, Paint Tool set to Pencil Circle (01),
 Scale set to 2.

 To create the diagonal I still used the Rectangle Select Tool, then
 Rotate Tool, then Select  Stroke Selection. But the line is very
 jagged, and it looks different than the horizontal and vertical.

 I tried just using the Pencil, then the Paint brush (holding the Shift
 key to get a straight line). I changed to a fuzzy brush.

 How does one get a smooth diagonal line, like the one in the picture.

 Thank you.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get a smooth diagonal line

2009-06-15 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:27 AM, DJdelphit...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi David, gimp-users,

 Are you looking for click, move to line end, shift-click??

 I can draw, or a better way to say it, I can create a line or
 selection for that matter -- the marching ants. I can technically
 create a line with the Pencil and Paint Brush.

 But, I can't make it look nice. I can't get the diagonal to look
 like the picture, so it just looks like another board. I can very
 clearly see the steps of the diagonal. If I enlarge the image the
 diagonal line looks similar to (assumes fixed font email):

  ^
      ^
          ^

Even with paintbrush? (pencil tool does no 'smoothing', whereas most
other tools do by default)

If that is the case, it's possible your image is in INDEXED mode.
Check the Image-Mode menu and convert it to RGB before trying again,
if that is the case

David
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Re: [Gimp-user] File Open Location - No such file or directory

2009-06-15 Thread DJ
Hi Akkana, gimp-users,

GIMP 2.6.3. It's the last rpm that was available for OpenSuSE 10.3. As
to how it was compiled. Um, don't know.  Can I view compiled options
somewhere in Gimp interface or console command?  KDE is my desktop,
but I run a lot of GNome apps.

Cause errors?  By that do you mean the Gimp message box? I do get
the GIMP message box, but it doesn't say how it was going to be done,
just that it couldn't find it. It says:

+
GIMP Message
Opening 'http://gif' failed:

Could not open 'http//gif' for reading: No such file or directory.
+

I guess I should find out how Gimp is compiled for OpenSuSE :-) If
Gimp knows the app that is failing, it would be helpful to the
end user if it was included in the message ;-)

Thank you.
DJ

 DJ writes:
 Whenever I have used File  Open Location, I've gotten an error. I
 thought I'd revisit it again while going through a tutorial on
 blending modes. I got the same error, No such file or directory. Yet,
 I can right-click and Save Image As with no problem. I got the url
 by right-clicking and Copy Image Location.
 
 I searched, but did not see anything.

 You don't mention what platform you're on, or what version of GIMP
 or where you got it. But GIMP has several different ways of opening
 remote files -- gvfs, gnome-vfs, libcurl, wget -- and if your gimp
 is compiled to use a method you don't have, that'll cause errors.
 The choice is made at compile time; the runtime code doesn't fall
 back to use other methods if the preferred method fails.

 For instance, Ubuntu's GIMP is compiled to need gvfs, so if you
 don't have that installed (for instance, if you're running Xubuntu
 or some other window manager instead of a Gnome desktop) then
 Open Location or dragging from a browser probably won't work
 unless you build your own gimp with --without-gvfs.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Needing sympathy and help

2009-06-15 Thread DJ
Hi,

Do a google search for water damaged photographs:
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8q=water+damaged+photographs

This one had some helpful suggestions:
http://www.imphotorepair.com/waterdamagedphoto.html

I figured with all the flooding these days there had to be some
discussion about it. My mother was into gluing and taping photos.
Between the that and the quality of the paper (acid), it's been a job.
I have some old diaries and autograph books from the 19th century.
They are brittle and yellow. I carefully scanned those for
preservation. I created a DVD slideshow of everything and gave them as
presents.

One of my favorite sites for photography is:
http://www.retouchpro.com/
Do a search there for water damage.  I found some there too.

Good Luck.
DJ

PS: New Zealand is gorgeous, especially the south island.

 I think at times you may be faced with a hard decision - do I want to 
 get the image or keep the photo?

 Drying old photos can be a problem, as they sometimes curl up strongly
 when dry. (If you allow them to dry emulsion side down on an unheated 
 print dryer, they're liable to stick on the surface).

 When the image is very important, it may be worth running the risk of 
 losing the photo by placing the wet print, emulsion side down, on a 
 sheet of glass and allowing it to dry. You can photograph the flattened
 image (with any cracks minimised) through the glass;  but you may not be
 able to soak the photo off again without damaging it.

 Best of luck! Let us know how you get on.

 Doug
 Emrys Williams wrote:
 Another thought is to consider copying the photos while they are still
 under water, before they have any chance to dry out and wrinkle.
 Personally, I'd photograph each photo through the water surface, as it
 lay on top of the pile, then remove the top photo. Then if the drying
 process wrecks them, you've still got a reasonable image. If they dry
 well, you can always scan them again later. Photographing through the
 water surface might need some practice, but I have done this very
 successfully with rock pools. Feel free to email me direct if you'd like
 some suggestions.

 More good luck!
 Emrys

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 Hi there all.

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 several envelopes of photos so damaged by water that they are stuck
 together and I can only see enough to know that they include some very
 old family photos of which there are unlikely to be other copies. I'm
 feeling terrible about finding them. I know my mother would be
 horrified if she knew that they were in one of the boxes she stored
 poorly and which became water damaged. So I've put the clumps of paper
 into a bag and will take them home with me to Denmark. That's the sob
 story...

 Now the question is what can I do to make the best of this tragic
 situation? I know a bit about restoring the photos once I have them,
 but for no they are caked together in a clump. Please does anyone know
 what I can do? All I've come up with so far is taking the whole clump
 with me on a ong visit to the local sauna! Maybe that would separate
 them with some encouragement?!

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[Gimp-user] Edit Stroke Selection, Line width odd/even and antialiasing

2009-06-15 Thread DJ
Hi Gimp-user,

Just wondering why, odd pixel widths look different than even pixel
widths when using Edit  Stroke Selection?

The odd pixel lines looked aliased, while the even pixel lines don't
(only their corners).

When drawing icons and shapes, do you make a conscious decision to stroke
the line with an odd or even line width?

I tested this by drawing a selection on a layer and stroking it with
line width 1, then adding a layer, moving the selection to the right,
and stroking it with line width 2. I repeated that 4 times increasing
the line width each time.

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[Gimp-user] Edit Stroke Selection, Paint Tool=Paintbrush verses using the same Paintbrush Tool directly

2009-06-15 Thread DJ
Hi Gimp-user,

After creating a rectangle with the Rectangle Select Tool, rotating it
-40 degrees, I selected Edit  Stroke Selection. I clicked the radio
button next to Stroke with a paint tool and then Paintbrush in the
Paint tool drop down.

I then created a rectangle parallel to the one above using the same
Paintbrush. I made no changes to the Paintbrush Tool Options. I
created this rectangle freehand, clicking where the 4 corners would be
while holding the shift key.

Should the 2 painted rectangles look alike?

Even though I used the same Paintbrush, the lines of the two
rectangles are very different. I would have thought that they would
have been the same (and I was going to prove it to myself :-)), since
I'm creating colored lines with the same tool (Paintbrush) - one via
Stroked Selection, one via freehand. The freehand rectangle has
anti-aliasing. The one created by Stroke Selection using the same
Paintbrush does not. The lines are very choppy. Did I miss an option
in the Stroke Selection Dialog? I tried some of the options in the
Rectangle Select Tool, before Rotating and Stroking, but they didn't
change anything. I'm not sure why in the Rectangle Select Tool
anti-aliasing is grayed out unless rounded corners is enabled. In one
try, I made rounded corners radius 0 and anti-aliasing enabled before
rotating and stroking the selection. No difference.

I'm using Paintbrush Circle (01), Scale 3.

I'm great at creating straight lines on 180 or 90 degrees :-), but add
an angle, slant (like above) or a curve, and I need a little more
practice.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Edit Stroke Selection, Paint Tool=Paintbrush verses using the same Paintbrush Tool directly

2009-06-15 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM, DJdelphit...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi Gimp-user,

 After creating a rectangle with the Rectangle Select Tool, rotating it
 -40 degrees, I selected Edit  Stroke Selection. I clicked the radio
 button next to Stroke with a paint tool and then Paintbrush in the
 Paint tool drop down.

 I then created a rectangle parallel to the one above using the same
 Paintbrush. I made no changes to the Paintbrush Tool Options. I
 created this rectangle freehand, clicking where the 4 corners would be
 while holding the shift key.

 Should the 2 painted rectangles look alike?

No. I understand your problem now.

The rectangle selection you made is constraining painting during the
stroking of the selection., just like any other selection would. If
you want the stroking to disregard the selection when applying paint,
you are better off converting the selection to a path then stroking
the path (with no selection active).

To illustrate -- use the paths tool to create a rectangle, and stroke
that path. The resultant stroking should display exactly the same
appearance as your freehand rectangle.

David
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