Re: [Gimp-user] Help file is not working anymore
From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Help file is not working anymore Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:34:57 +0100 Hi, Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Finally, i updated my Gimp to version 2.2.2 on my Linux box as well. Previously, i had 2.06 installed with help files working perfectly. Now, with version 2.2.2 installed my help files are not functioning any longer. When i click the help menu i get the following error; There is a problem with the GIMP help files. Parse error in '/usr/local/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/gimp-help.xml': Error on line 1 char 1: Document was empty or contained only whitespace Please check your installation. How can i fix this problem? Well, what exactly is your problem? There's a rather descriptive error message so I guess you already had a look at gimp-help.xml. Is it indeed empty? The gimp-help.xml file indeed empty. So, I reinstalled the help file but the result is the same. So what am i supposed to do next? jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help file is not working anymore
From: michael crane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Help file is not working anymore Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:58:45 + Jozsef Mak wrote: At configuration i provide --prefix=/usr/local/share/gimp/2.0 option. But no matter what i do the help-files keep installing in the /usr/share/gimp/2.0 directory. This is why Gimp cannot find the files. How can i fix this? despite I don't know what the problem is ln -s /usr/share/gimp/ /usr/local/share/gimp ? Hi mick, Thanks for the help. This solved the problem. jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help file is not working anymore
Hi, Finally, i updated my Gimp to version 2.2.2 on my Linux box as well. Previously, i had 2.06 installed with help files working perfectly. Now, with version 2.2.2 installed my help files are not functioning any longer. When i click the help menu i get the following error; There is a problem with the GIMP help files. Parse error in '/usr/local/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/gimp-help.xml': Error on line 1 char 1: Document was empty or contained only whitespace Please check your installation. How can i fix this problem? Thanks jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies
Hi, One of the things I was talking about in my previous email will be clearer if you look at this screenshot I made of Gimp. http://jozmak.heydo.com/wallpapers/screensavers.htm Look at all the wasted space underneath the tool icons. That area offers itself for all kinds of useful option dialog boxes. There are so much unused space there that if it would be smartly utilized Gimp could be made one of the most intuitive interface with the best interactive tool sets. jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies
From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:56:27 +0100 Hi, Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of the things I was talking about in my previous email will be clearer if you look at this screenshot I made of Gimp. http://jozmak.heydo.com/wallpapers/screensavers.htm Look at all the wasted space underneath the tool icons. I suggest you get rid of it then. You can disable the color area and brushes/gradient/pattern indicator in the toolbox. Try using a Colors dock as a replacement for the color area. My idea was not to get rid of that space but to populate it with useful information, which are presently scattered in the various transformation windows (degree of rotation, width, height and so on). If that information would be in plain view at all times, transforming objects interactively would be much less complex. jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies
From: Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:53:10 +0100 Jozsef Mak wrote: My idea was not to get rid of that space but to populate it with useful information, which are presently scattered in the various transformation windows (degree of rotation, width, height and so on). If that information would be in plain view at all times, transforming objects interactively would be much less complex. You could start by implementing dockables (the things like e.g. the layers dialog etc... that are grouped in the docks) for the transform tool dialogs. Of course, you would need some infrastructure, like docking horizontally, too. Not neccessarily a small task, but it will surely provide you with some knowledge about GIMP's user interface. I am not a programmer but a graphic designer. My intention was to provide useful feedback that can help fine-tuning Gimp. From my point of view designing software is like designing a car, which should serve the driver rather than the auto mechanic. Of course, there are many types of driversweekend drivers, racecar drivers and so on; like software users; there are hobbyists and professionals. All types have different expectations. If you use a program professionally you want it to perform as efficient and smoothly as possible. I look at Gimp from this point of view. I understand that occasional users and hobbyists have different views, which is OK. But here the question is what do we want Gimp to become in the future. jozsefmak - The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies
Now that Gimp 2.2 is out, we can start fantasizing about the changes we would like to see in the next release. These are my fantasies. To begin with, I would do away with all transformation dialog boxes (scale, shear, rotation and so on). This is because most of the time, the data displayed in these dialog boxes I have little use. Most of the time I transform objects interactively. This is how things operate in actual work environment as well. (You have almost done the project when the dumb client comes in the office and says, hey, I want that tree on the left smaller. Then you select the tree and hit the scale icon and start scaling; then the client behind your back says, more , even more , still too large and you keep scaling till the client says ok. There are no width and height sizes or aspect ratio involved in this process; you just scale interactively by feeling out the proper size. This is the same with other transformation tools as well.) Therefore, what I would like to do is just click inside the transformation box border or hit the enter key to confirm the changes. I would make one transformation box, though, where all numeric data could be inputted in the rare occasion I need them. Next, I would simplify the gradient editor. The following idea is taken from Macromedia. Wouldnt be nice if I could drag and drop color swatches over the small triangles under the gradient ramp and the editor colors would update instantly? Gimp already has drag and drop functionality anyway. Would this be hard to implement programmatically? This interactive approach of creating gradients would greatly reduce the complexities of the gradient editor and make designers life easier. (When developers implement a feature into the program one of the first things they, perhaps, should ask themselves; how the feature would perform in a stressful environment? When the air is full of tension, the client is tiptoeing behind your back and your boss keep making faces and running in and out of the office in every minute. This is, unfortunately, the reality of the workplace at the beginning of the twenty-first century and this is why one of the key words software developers perhaps should adopt, simplify, simplify, simplify.) Like the philosopher said; He is a thinker; that means, he knows how to make things simpler than they are. - F. Nietzsche The tool bar, on the left side, has also been bothering me for some time. How about rearranging it in a narrow, horizontal style and clipping it to the top of the screen. This layout would produce more efficiently utilized screen space and a more contemporary look. I have already found as being a good idea placing the zoom-setting box at the bottom of the document window; but how about further expanding on this notion either by making use of the entire available space on the bottom panel or creating a second row of panels underneath the document windows menu bar (file, edit, select ) and placing option boxes thereselection settings, brush settings, airbrush settings and so on. These are logical places to implement option settings; Photoshop, Corel and Inkscape are already making use of these panels. Relocating option settings would make the toolbar less cluttered as well. With these changes, it would also be possible to reduce its size, which would produce a user-friendlier toolbox occupying less room; in addition, it would improve Gimps current look and feel. I wonder what others think about these ideas. Merry Xmas and Happy New Year jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies
From: Andreas Waechter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 23:11:15 +0100 To begin with, I would do away with all transformation dialog boxes (scale, shear, rotation and so on). This is because most of the time, the data displayed in these dialog boxes I have little use. Most of the time I transform objects interactively. Oh, because YOU don't use the numeric input fields, they should be removed for EVERYONE? I do not use them always, but sometimes I need to do exact rotation/shear/scale operations - these would be hard work to do without the numeric input fields. In all the cases where I do not need the numeric input fields, it is very easy just to ignore them and work without them. This is why I recommended creating a panel for options where the dimensions of the object can be traced as you interactively transform them. Like in Photoshop. Or there is a more elegant way to solve this, like many 3D programs do. As soon as you start rotating an object the numeric values appear on the screen where you can look them up at any moment; when you release the mouse the transformation is done. Learn about configuring Gimp ... I tried to reshape the tool box horizontally but it didnt look good to me. I still experiment with it to see that perhaps I missed something. jozsefmak Andreas ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies
From: Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Holiday fantasies Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 22:33:01 +0100 Jozsef Mak wrote: Now that Gimp 2.2 is out, we can start fantasizing about the changes we would like to see in the next release. These are my fantasies. To begin with, I would do away with all transformation dialog boxes (scale, shear, rotation and so on). Already planned, iirc. Next, I would simplify the gradient editor. The following idea is taken from Macromedia. Wouldn�t be nice if I could drag and drop color swatches over the small triangles under the gradient ramp and the editor colors would update instantly? Already in bugzilla as an enhancement request, afaik... yep: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119470 The tool bar, on the left side, has also been bothering me for some time. How about rearranging it in a narrow, horizontal style and clipping it to the top of the screen. This layout would produce more efficiently utilized screen space and a more contemporary look. You can already have this, just stretch the toolbox horizontally. I have already found as being a good idea placing the zoom-setting box at the bottom of the document window; but how about further expanding on this notion either by making use of the entire available space on the bottom panel or creating a second row of panels underneath the document windows menu bar (file, edit, select�) and placing option boxes there� selection settings, brush settings, airbrush settings and so on. Would clutter each image window, so it's not desirable at the moment. If there is a dock everything to anything in the future, each user could configure it. These are logical places to implement option settings; Photoshop, Corel and Inkscape are already making use of these panels. Well, IMO Inkscape's SDI approch sucks - I tried several times, and still find this very hard to use (maybe it sucks more on Windows than on other platforms?). The toolbar is only partially shown most of the time, undocking it doesn't turn it into a freely resizable window, new windows alwas open at 0,0 ... Not something GIMP should try to imitate... Hi Michael, Thats great that most of my wishes are already on the list. It seems I am a bit behind the trend; this makes me feel definitely better about Gimp, which I like a lot even if on the job I have to work with Photoshop. Smooth interface and intuitive tool usage is a definite plus, when it comes to seducing Photoshop users to Gimp. I do my part; whenever I get the chance I always try to persuade them to use Gimp as an alternative to Photoshop. But most of the designers in the business world are rather square headed and few willing to bother experimenting with other programs after work. They are picky too when it comes to learning new features because they think Photoshop is the next best thing to paradise. More Gimp complies with their expectations the easier it becomes to convince them to try it out. jozsefmak The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Need help installing the help files
From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Need help installing the help files Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:09:12 +0100 You need to have the GIMP development package installed. The standard binary GIMP installation doesn't include the gimp-2.0.pc file. Hi Sven, Thanks a lot for the installation advice. Now, the help file installed without complain. I suggest mentioning this installation requirement in the Install file as well. jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Need help installing the help files
Hi, I tried to install the help package on my system and i got the following message after running configure. checking for gimp-2.0... Package gimp-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gimp-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gimp-2.0' found configure: error: ** Couldn't find a GIMP-2.0 installation. If you want to skip this check and ** install the help files to the configured prefix, use the --without-gimp ** configure option. Note that GIMP will then only find the help files if it ** is installed in the same prefix. See the file 'INSTALL' for more help. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/mak/programs/gimp-help-2-0.6 # I am not sure how to proceed. jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Interesting problem
Hi, I have an interesting problem. I am running a dual boot system with Xp and Linux. I have a fat32 partition where i save my files from both operating systems. I have two versions of Gimp, one for each system. The windows version is 2.2pre2 and the Linux version is 2.0.2. Often i start a project in one system and continue working on it in the other. The other day, I created a new Gimp file with a custom swatches palette. But when i open it in the Linux version of Gimp the custom swatches palette doesn't show up, everything else is there, layers, gradients and so on. Any idea what might cause this? jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Interesting problem
From: Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Interesting problem Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 18:32:58 -0200 These palettes are not saved as part of the image. Rather, as Gimp-wide resources. Look in the preferences dialog were is your palette data dir in windows. The palette you created will be there. You have to write this file to the equivalent dir, probably ~/.gimp-2.0/palettes/ , before you start the GIMP in linux. I copied the palette file from windows to ./gimp-2.0/palette folder, as you suggested, but the palette still doesn't show in the file when I open in Linux. Could it be because the Linux version of Gimp is not the same as Window's? jozsefmak On Friday 17 December 2004 17:48, Jozsef Mak wrote: Hi, I have an interesting problem. I am running a dual boot system with Xp and Linux. I have a fat32 partition where i save my files from both operating systems. I have two versions of Gimp, one for each system. The windows version is 2.2pre2 and the Linux version is 2.0.2. Often i start a project in one system and continue working on it in the other. The other day, I created a new Gimp file with a custom swatches palette. But when i open it in the Linux version of Gimp the custom swatches palette doesn't show up, everything else is there, layers, gradients and so on. Any idea what might cause this? jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Interesting problem
From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Interesting problem Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:37:38 +0100 Hi, Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I copied the palette file from windows to ./gimp-2.0/palette folder, as you suggested, but the palette still doesn't show in the file when I open in Linux. What do you mean when you say a palette shows in a file? I created a palette and named it GnomeIconcolors in windows. After saving, the name appeared on the list in the swatches window, among the default swatches, which comes with the program like Gray, Grayblue, Grayviolet and so on, in the windows version of Gimp but it doesn't show on Linux palette list when I open the file in the Linux version of Gimp even after copying the swatch palette from windows to Linux. jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Interesting problem
From: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Interesting problem Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 19:08:38 -0500 From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Interesting problem Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:37:38 +0100 Hi, Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I copied the palette file from windows to ./gimp-2.0/palette folder, as you suggested, but the palette still doesn't show in the file when I open in Linux. What do you mean when you say a palette shows in a file? I created a palette and named it GnomeIconcolors in windows. After saving, the name appeared on the list in the swatches window, among the default swatches, which comes with the program like Gray, Grayblue, Grayviolet and so on, in the windows version of Gimp but it doesn't show on Linux palette list when I open the file in the Linux version of Gimp even after copying the swatch palette from windows to Linux. I made a test. I created a new file in Gimp Linux version. I created a custom swatch palette and saved it. Then I copied the custom palette swatch from Linux to Windows version and it worked perfectly. The custom swatch name showed on the swatches list. It seems the procedure fails only the other way around. jozsefmak k ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Importing palettes
Hi, Could anyone tell me how to import swatches palettes between documents? thanks jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] bug
Maybe by accident I discovered a bug in Gimp 2.2. This is what happened. I created a new gradient. Then in the gradient editor I clicked on the edit Left color. The color picker popped up. I chose the color I wanted but I forgot to close it. Next, I clicked the Right color in the gradient editor. The color picker popped up again. At this point, there were 2 color pickers open. I chose the color for the Right color and I clicked OK; the color picker closed, the gradient editor updated. But the first color picker was still open. I clicked on the OK button to close it but nothing happened. I clicked on it repeatedly but nothing. Then I closed the gradient editor. At this point the color picker was still open. Then I clicked again on the OK button and Gimp crashed. I repeated this numerous times and always got the same result. This was on a windows box. I repeated the same process on my Linux box but there everything went fine. Though my Gimp linux version still haven't been updated. jozsefmak ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Where to put help?
At which level would you like to integrate it - source tree, release tarball or binary distribution? Michael This I cannot tell, but when I compiled Inkscape from source all the tutorials were in the help file ready to use. They could solve the problem somehow. jozsefmak The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Where to put help?
I also cannot understand the reason behind not integrating the help files with Gimp. jozsefmak The best solution of course would be to have the help files integrated with the Gimp package itself. That is the way most packages work. Failing that, a help tarball in parallel to the current stable version and with explicit instructions on installation (i.e. where) would be most helpful. I suppose I will have to go to a Knoppix disk and figure out where the help files go from its internal structure. Oh well. -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Judging the splash contest
I like the idea. jozsefmak From: Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gimp Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Judging the splash contest Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 18:08:14 +0100 David Neary wrote: Hi all, So thanks to yosh (and carol for having done the contest section of the site in the first place) we now have the splash contest back on track. The next step is to actually judge the contest and pickj the 2.2 splash screen. There are 3 ways we can go about that. 1) Someone makes a unilateral decision and commits one of the entries. 2) A small (2 or 3) group of GIMP people decide among themselves who wins. 3) A larger group (the GIMP user list, more or less) judges the contest by sending in their favourite, and the one with the most votes gets it. I'd like to add: 4) A small group preselects a few (3, 5, 10, ?) images from the submissions, and a larger group votes for them like in option 3). Michael -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
RE: [Gimp-user] Re: 2.2 splash screen competition
Can anyone explain why I cannot create an account for the contest page? I tried every variations possible but nothing happens other than the same page reappears over and over again asking to create an account. jozsefmak From: David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Gimp-user] Re: 2.2 splash screen competition Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:34:04 +0100 Hi all, After a false start, the GIMP Splash Contest is now officially open! The contest runs until next Sunday, Midnight. Splash screens should be the same size as jimmac's logo and have a pale band across the bottom roughly the same size. Otherwise, knock yourselves out! Competition entries should be attached to the live.gnome.org wiki page at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt_2fGimpSplashContest - you will need to create a wiki account. We will definitely have some kind of (small) prize sponsored, details will follow during the week (but the real reason you are doing it is the glory, right?) Good luck to everyone! And don't forget, spread the news! Cheers, Dave Neary. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CV: http://dneary.free.fr/CV/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
RE: [Gimp-user] Re: 2.2 splash screen competition
I followed exactly the create profile instructions on the page but I couldnt succeed creating any. I filled out the form, I clicked on the button, create profile, then nothing happened; the same form reappeared. When I try to log in I get the massage unknown username. What did I miss? jozsefmak From: David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Gimp-user] Re: 2.2 splash screen competition Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:34:04 +0100 Hi all, After a false start, the GIMP Splash Contest is now officially open! The contest runs until next Sunday, Midnight. Splash screens should be the same size as jimmac's logo and have a pale band across the bottom roughly the same size. Otherwise, knock yourselves out! Competition entries should be attached to the live.gnome.org wiki page at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt_2fGimpSplashContest - you will need to create a wiki account. We will definitely have some kind of (small) prize sponsored, details will follow during the week (but the real reason you are doing it is the glory, right?) Good luck to everyone! And don't forget, spread the news! Cheers, Dave Neary. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CV: http://dneary.free.fr/CV/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
RE: [Gimp-user] Re: 2.2 splash screen competition
So what should i do? From: Steve Stavropoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Gimp-user] Re: 2.2 splash screen competition Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:16:58 +0200 (EET) On Tue, 30 Nov 2004, Jozsef Mak wrote: I followed exactly the create profile instructions on the page but I couldnt succeed creating any. I filled out the form, I clicked on the button, create profile, then nothing happened; the same form reappeared. When I try to log in I get the massage unknown username. What did I miss? cookies maybe? ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions
I have just installed Gimp 2.2 on my windows box and these are my first impressions. Over all I like the way this version turned out. The new filters are impressive; I like the new save and open dialogue boxes; also the cleaned up Script-fu plug ins; but here, I observed that sometimes the dialogue window pops up behind the main window rather than in the front. But not always, why is this? I like the new rotation window but I have problem with the scale function. When I scale a selection, sometimes a duplicate image appears in the window. When I hit the scale button the original image gets scaled but occasionally the secondary image remains on the screen. Then I have to move the original one over the remnants; this then erases it as the eraser tool does. I dont know anybody has experienced similar problems. Also, when I scale a selection the small-scale box with the little corners doesnt surround exactly the image but it appears larger than the actual image. I dont know what causes this. I like the zoom and the unit settings at the bottom of the main window a lot. One more thing, which is not related to this particular release of Gimp. Why is it that the dialogue boxes in Gimp are so large? By the way, this feature characterizes most open source applications. If you look at Photoshop or Fireworks, for instance, you immediately notice that their dialogue boxes are almost half the size of Gimps. The brand new New Layer window box has four options: Foreground color, Background color, White and Transparency, all in one column. If the layout would be two rows rather than a single column the height of the dialogue box could be reduced at least 2 cm, which would make the window more compact and less obtrusive. The same is the case with the filter windows. Next to the preview window there is plenty of unused space, which would be a logical location for the preview check box. With these rearrangements the filter windows too could have been made significantly smaller. I also think that the Save, Cancel and usually the dialogue box buttons are way too large, wasting lots of space. Other than this, I enjoy the new Gimp. Cheers Jozsef Mak ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions
Hi Sven, Thanks for this advice. I was not aware of this option. The small theme fits much better to my taste. But I still think that by fine-tuning the layout the dialogue windows can be made more compact. Regards, J. Mak From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:22:17 +0100 Hi, Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One more thing, which is not related to this particular release of Gimp. Why is it that the dialogue boxes in Gimp are so large? You could go to the Preferences dialog and select the Small theme. Did you try that? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions
From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:57:06 +0100 Hi, Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for this advice. I was not aware of this option. The small theme fits much better to my taste. But I still think that by fine-tuning the layout the dialogue windows can be made more compact. The goal for 2.2 was to achieve a consistent and pleasant look. We followed the advices of the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines and used the spacings suggested there for most dialogs. We might consider to allow these spacings to be customized using style properties. This would make it possible to tune thes from the theme. That would be quite an effort though since all dialogs would have to be touched. If someone want to do this (comparably easy but rather large) task in the next development cycle, that would be welcomed. Sven In my view, there is no need to complicate Gimp with additional options; especially, because its interface is getting better all the time. In art school, my art teacher used to say, every pleasing composition has to have a center of interest. Every additional component in the arrangement should support this main element, otherwise, the design becomes confusing. This principle, in my view, can be applied to other fields as well. In the case of the dialogue boxes the center of interests is the settings and the options; in the hierarchy of components, the rest (such as the Cancel and Save buttons) is secondary. In addition, it is good to keep in mind that pop up windows always disrupt the workflow, therefore, it make sense to make them as unobtrusive as possible. This is one of the reasons, I guess, that Photoshop but also Inkscape (to which I applaud) places increasingly more options on the upper toolbarto eliminate the need of creating additional pop up windows. But the best is Blenders (an open source 3D application) dialogue boxes. They are transparent (not all of them). As a result, they blend so smoothly and inconspicuously into the work environment that most of the time I dont even bother to close them. Regards, J. Mak ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
