Re: [Gimp-user] JavaScript
Yeah, GIMP doesn't really have all of the strong slicing features that other programs have, but I suspect that they will begin moving away from slicing paradigms as the default because CSS is more widely and fully supported. For example, rather than slicing your background image, you can place it in different positions in a div using CSS. This is much cleaner and has better support because divs were made for web layout and tables were not. GIMP is not only the best open source tool on the market for imaging, but also the most versatile, and if it doesn't have something that you want, then the nice thing is that you can program it, but for what you want to do, I don't think it is worth the effort to program the plugins, simply because tables are not the layout standard for the web anymore. That's just my opinion of course. Nathan On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Jan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was just wondering because GIMP is quite good in many aspects that it > could replace many windows programs, on the other hand there is another > program called Pixel which isnt freeware that is good for webdesign. Still, > I wasnt entirely pleased with the DEMO and would just as well use the GIMP > for web design even if I have to code the pages myself. One thing I really > miss from Fireworks though is the behavioral slices which are like > transparent rectangles that can be placed over an image and optimized with > JavaScript behaviors and exported as HTML, though as you mentioned the code > this produces looks kind of bizarre and overtly complex. > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Nathan Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Also writing the javascript, html, and css yourself ensures that you > > don't succumb to any html/css/javascript bugs that might be found in those > > dreamweaver-like tools because they tend not to be perfect like coding > > everything yourself. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Nathan Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > It's not really integrated with any text editor, and it itself is not > > > a web design tool, even though it has slicing capabilities. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Jan Snyder < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I know CSS is better but I took a JavaScript class and have > > > > been messing around with it under Linux. I have a Virtual Machine of > > > > windows > > > > I sometimes run with Fireworks, Dreamweaver, and Flash (8). I'm trying > > > > to > > > > get away from these and found in Linux that the best way is to write the > > > > code myself and use GIMP or Inkscape to do more vector based work. I was > > > > just curious of ways that GIMP might become more integrated with say > > > > some > > > > sort of text editor and include script templates (also CSS). I'm taking > > > > an > > > > XHTML/CCS class soon. I will check out Amaya and Quantaplus. I already > > > > have > > > > NVU/Kompozer. I prefer a plain text editor over Kompozer. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Nathan Lane < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > You would either need to learn Script-Fu, Python, or C/C++ and > > > > > learn how to integrate into the GIMP api. I have a couple of > > > > > questions, > > > > > first, why are you using slicing for your HTML projects when CSS > > > > > handles the > > > > > sorts of things you can do with slicing in a much more logical and > > > > > browser-friendly manner, and second, the javascript to do this isn't > > > > > very > > > > > hard to learn. If you'd like I can bring you by (teach you). What is > > > > > it that > > > > > you are trying to do, menus? Anyway, there are open source/free tools > > > > > that > > > > > also enable you in the way of web site creation, that are similar to > > > > > Adobe > > > > > Dreamweaver, for example, Amaya, Quanta Plus, and NVU. But seriously, > > > > > I can > > > > > help you learn or this website, http://quirksmode.org/, can help > > > > > you learn how to do cross-browser javascript easily. If you decide to > > > > > go the > > > > > CSS route, things like image flipping for buttons becomes a ton > > > > > easier also. > > > > > Just let me know off-list if you want help learning that stuff. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Jan Snyder < > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all humans, > > > > > > I have been using GIMP for webdesign but have to write all the > > > > > > JavaScript by hand in Gedit the Linux text editor. Since the slice > > > > > > tool and > > > > > > imagemap tool export some HTML tables and JavaScript, I think it > > > > > > would be > > > > > > nice if GIMP somehow included JavaScript or CSS templates and it's > > > > > > own text > > > > > > editor console sort of like the python console it has for editing > > > > > > plugins. > > > > > > Somehow the script templates could automatically be i
Re: [Gimp-user] JavaScript
Also writing the javascript, html, and css yourself ensures that you don't succumb to any html/css/javascript bugs that might be found in those dreamweaver-like tools because they tend not to be perfect like coding everything yourself. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Nathan Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not really integrated with any text editor, and it itself is not a > web design tool, even though it has slicing capabilities. > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Jan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Yes, I know CSS is better but I took a JavaScript class and have been > > messing around with it under Linux. I have a Virtual Machine of windows I > > sometimes run with Fireworks, Dreamweaver, and Flash (8). I'm trying to get > > away from these and found in Linux that the best way is to write the code > > myself and use GIMP or Inkscape to do more vector based work. I was just > > curious of ways that GIMP might become more integrated with say some sort of > > text editor and include script templates (also CSS). I'm taking an XHTML/CCS > > class soon. I will check out Amaya and Quantaplus. I already have > > NVU/Kompozer. I prefer a plain text editor over Kompozer. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Nathan Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > You would either need to learn Script-Fu, Python, or C/C++ and learn > > > how to integrate into the GIMP api. I have a couple of questions, first, > > > why > > > are you using slicing for your HTML projects when CSS handles the sorts of > > > things you can do with slicing in a much more logical and browser-friendly > > > manner, and second, the javascript to do this isn't very hard to learn. If > > > you'd like I can bring you by (teach you). What is it that you are trying > > > to > > > do, menus? Anyway, there are open source/free tools that also enable you > > > in > > > the way of web site creation, that are similar to Adobe Dreamweaver, for > > > example, Amaya, Quanta Plus, and NVU. But seriously, I can help you learn > > > or > > > this website, http://quirksmode.org/, can help you learn how to do > > > cross-browser javascript easily. If you decide to go the CSS route, things > > > like image flipping for buttons becomes a ton easier also. Just let me > > > know > > > off-list if you want help learning that stuff. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Jan Snyder < > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello all humans, > > > > I have been using GIMP for webdesign but have to write all the > > > > JavaScript by hand in Gedit the Linux text editor. Since the slice tool > > > > and > > > > imagemap tool export some HTML tables and JavaScript, I think it would > > > > be > > > > nice if GIMP somehow included JavaScript or CSS templates and it's own > > > > text > > > > editor console sort of like the python console it has for editing > > > > plugins. > > > > Somehow the script templates could automatically be included into the > > > > slice > > > > HTML exported file. Is this feasible? Also, I have limited > > > > programming > > > > knowledge. Does anyone know what it might take to program this into > > > > GIMP. > > > > I will try to do it myself but need some hints. > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > Gimp-user mailing list > > > > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > > > > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Nathan Lane > > > Home, http://www.nathandelane.com > > > Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > -- > Nathan Lane > Home, http://www.nathandelane.com > Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com > -- Nathan Lane Home, http://www.nathandelane.com Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] JavaScript
It's not really integrated with any text editor, and it itself is not a web design tool, even though it has slicing capabilities. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Jan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, I know CSS is better but I took a JavaScript class and have been > messing around with it under Linux. I have a Virtual Machine of windows I > sometimes run with Fireworks, Dreamweaver, and Flash (8). I'm trying to get > away from these and found in Linux that the best way is to write the code > myself and use GIMP or Inkscape to do more vector based work. I was just > curious of ways that GIMP might become more integrated with say some sort of > text editor and include script templates (also CSS). I'm taking an XHTML/CCS > class soon. I will check out Amaya and Quantaplus. I already have > NVU/Kompozer. I prefer a plain text editor over Kompozer. > > Thanks > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Nathan Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > You would either need to learn Script-Fu, Python, or C/C++ and learn how > > to integrate into the GIMP api. I have a couple of questions, first, why are > > you using slicing for your HTML projects when CSS handles the sorts of > > things you can do with slicing in a much more logical and browser-friendly > > manner, and second, the javascript to do this isn't very hard to learn. If > > you'd like I can bring you by (teach you). What is it that you are trying to > > do, menus? Anyway, there are open source/free tools that also enable you in > > the way of web site creation, that are similar to Adobe Dreamweaver, for > > example, Amaya, Quanta Plus, and NVU. But seriously, I can help you learn or > > this website, http://quirksmode.org/, can help you learn how to do > > cross-browser javascript easily. If you decide to go the CSS route, things > > like image flipping for buttons becomes a ton easier also. Just let me know > > off-list if you want help learning that stuff. > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Jan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hello all humans, > > > I have been using GIMP for webdesign but have to write all the > > > JavaScript by hand in Gedit the Linux text editor. Since the slice tool > > > and > > > imagemap tool export some HTML tables and JavaScript, I think it would be > > > nice if GIMP somehow included JavaScript or CSS templates and it's own > > > text > > > editor console sort of like the python console it has for editing plugins. > > > Somehow the script templates could automatically be included into the > > > slice > > > HTML exported file. Is this feasible? Also, I have limited programming > > > knowledge. Does anyone know what it might take to program this into > > > GIMP. > > > I will try to do it myself but need some hints. > > > > > > ___ > > > Gimp-user mailing list > > > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > > > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Nathan Lane > > Home, http://www.nathandelane.com > > Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com > > > -- Nathan Lane Home, http://www.nathandelane.com Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] JavaScript
You would either need to learn Script-Fu, Python, or C/C++ and learn how to integrate into the GIMP api. I have a couple of questions, first, why are you using slicing for your HTML projects when CSS handles the sorts of things you can do with slicing in a much more logical and browser-friendly manner, and second, the javascript to do this isn't very hard to learn. If you'd like I can bring you by (teach you). What is it that you are trying to do, menus? Anyway, there are open source/free tools that also enable you in the way of web site creation, that are similar to Adobe Dreamweaver, for example, Amaya, Quanta Plus, and NVU. But seriously, I can help you learn or this website, http://quirksmode.org/, can help you learn how to do cross-browser javascript easily. If you decide to go the CSS route, things like image flipping for buttons becomes a ton easier also. Just let me know off-list if you want help learning that stuff. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Jan Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all humans, > I have been using GIMP for webdesign but have to write all the JavaScript > by hand in Gedit the Linux text editor. Since the slice tool and imagemap > tool export some HTML tables and JavaScript, I think it would be nice if > GIMP somehow included JavaScript or CSS templates and it's own text editor > console sort of like the python console it has for editing plugins. Somehow > the script templates could automatically be included into the slice HTML > exported file. Is this feasible? Also, I have limited programming > knowledge. Does anyone know what it might take to program this into GIMP. > I will try to do it myself but need some hints. > > ___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user > > -- Nathan Lane Home, http://www.nathandelane.com Blog, http://nathandelane.blogspot.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] JavaScript
Hello all humans, I have been using GIMP for webdesign but have to write all the JavaScript by hand in Gedit the Linux text editor. Since the slice tool and imagemap tool export some HTML tables and JavaScript, I think it would be nice if GIMP somehow included JavaScript or CSS templates and it's own text editor console sort of like the python console it has for editing plugins. Somehow the script templates could automatically be included into the slice HTML exported file. Is this feasible? Also, I have limited programming knowledge. Does anyone know what it might take to program this into GIMP. I will try to do it myself but need some hints. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
