Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", "save a copy", "save", "open"
Hi, On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 17:12 +0200, Raphaël Quinet wrote: > On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:20:33 +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If an image already has a filename associated to it, then open the Save > > file-chooser in that folder. Otherwise use the folder of the most recent > > save operation. Would that make sense? > > Definitely. That should be the default behavior. > > If needed, the current behavior (always use the last directory) can be > emulated with a temporary bookmark. The opposite is not true: if you > are working on several images and want to save each of them in the > directory they came from, then the current file-chooser behavior gets > in the way. Huh? In GIMP 2.4 the Save As file-chooser opens in the directory where you loaded the image from. Your last sentence seems to imply that this is the behavior that you desire and I don't see why you describe it as 'gets in the way'. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", "save a copy", "save", "open"
El dt 02 de 10 del 2007 a les 18:20 +0200, en/na Sven Neumann va escriure: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 23:31 +0200, Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote: > > > I see the "Recently Used" (files) entry in file-chooser. Can it hold > > "Recently Used Dirs" ? > > For the Save dialog, this would probably make more sense than presenting > recently used files. Would probably make sense to bring this up for > discussion on the gtk-developer list or at least file a bug report for > it against the GTK+ file-chooser. Done, see: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2007-October/msg00010.html > > If an image already has a filename associated to it, then open the Save > file-chooser in that folder. Otherwise use the folder of the most recent > save operation. Would that make sense? I have to disagree, that can be very confusing. (and very powerfull BTW, you can change the default saving directory on the fly): open a/b/c.xcf (named file) new unnamed.xcf new unnamed1.xcf save unnamed.xcf to d/e/f.xcf (file-chooser comes up) default saving directory comes d/e save a/b/c.xcf ( CTRL+S file-chooser doe not appear as the file has yet a name) default saving directory comes a/b nearly without notice save unnamed1.xcf What happens? a/b is presented when I just manualy selected d/e in the previous opened file-chooser. What about this?: If an image already has a filename associated to it, then open the Save file-chooser in that folder. Otherwise use the folder of the most recent save operation that implies the use of file-chooser. Yours Pere ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", "save a copy", "save", "open"
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:20:33 +0200, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If an image already has a filename associated to it, then open the Save > file-chooser in that folder. Otherwise use the folder of the most recent > save operation. Would that make sense? Definitely. That should be the default behavior. If needed, the current behavior (always use the last directory) can be emulated with a temporary bookmark. The opposite is not true: if you are working on several images and want to save each of them in the directory they came from, then the current file-chooser behavior gets in the way. -Raphaël ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", "save a copy", "save", "open"
Hi, On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 23:31 +0200, Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote: > I see the "Recently Used" (files) entry in file-chooser. Can it hold > "Recently Used Dirs" ? For the Save dialog, this would probably make more sense than presenting recently used files. Would probably make sense to bring this up for discussion on the gtk-developer list or at least file a bug report for it against the GTK+ file-chooser. > I just have a suggestion for "paste as new" and is that the default > saving directory for the new image can inherit the default saving > directory from the image where the action is called, or if it is called > from the toolbox, inherite from the active image. That would be rather confusing, IMO. But what about the following: If an image already has a filename associated to it, then open the Save file-chooser in that folder. Otherwise use the folder of the most recent save operation. Would that make sense? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", "save a copy", "save", "open"
Hi! El dg 30 de 09 del 2007 a les 12:10 +0200, en/na Sven Neumann va escriure: > The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4 already makes use > of this feature in some places. I see the "Recently Used" (files) entry in file-chooser. Can it hold "Recently Used Dirs" ? > I am not convinced though that this > would be a good way to solve the problems brought up the user who > started the thread. No, dir bookmarks not solve any problem, but can come in help when the gimp assumption about the directory where to save a file and the user wanted directory differs. There are two issues here: Find good default saving assumptions for most users. What to do when a user has different needs. Bookmarking recent saving dirs deals with the second case. > Perhaps we need to collect the typical usage scenarios that involve use > of the file-chooser and evaluate how the current solution deals with > them and if there are ways to improve it. I just have a suggestion for "paste as new" and is that the default saving directory for the new image can inherit the default saving directory from the image where the action is called, or if it is called from the toolbox, inherite from the active image. As this, the users can have some control over the default saving directory. Yours Pere ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", " save a copy ", "save", "open"
On Monday 01 October 2007 09:55:19 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > I will pray for you. In linux. What, not in Plan9? Or Hurd? Where's your ambition? (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", " save a copy ", "save", "open"
On Monday 01 October 2007 08:56:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Note: author has recently added a note that its not Vista- > ready (and may or may not ever be :-( ). That alone is > sufficient to keep me on WinXp as long as possible. Or to inspire you to make a really robust & portable GTK version which *will* run on Vista. At least under GIMP if nowhere else. (-: An advantage to making it fly under GTK is that it then becomes reasonable to use the features with other apps, naturally including file managers. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", " save a copy ", "save", "open"
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [09-30-07 18:57]: > That alone is sufficient to keep me on WinXp as long as possible. I will pray for you.In linux. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", " save a copy ", "save", "open"
Leon Brooks GIMP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sep 30, 2007 16:51 -0400 (in part): On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:10:46 Sven Neumann wrote: > The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4 > already makes use of this feature in some places. I am not > convinced though that this would be a good way to solve the > problems brought up the user who started the thread. I am imagining a short drop-down history of places one last saved things, preferably with a shortcut key (Ins? Who knows?) which will instantly recall the most recent one. Is any one familiar with Windows-only File-Ex http://www.cottonwoodsw.com ? (It has a 30-day trial period) IMO it turns the standard windows File-Open File-Save dialogs into things of beauty. If Gimp's (aka GTK+ do I have the relationship correct?) Open-Save dialogs could emulate that cross-platform I think it would be ideal! (And satisfy everything Leon has asked for.) Full disclosure - I did a lot of beta-testing for this in its upgrade from Win9x to Win2K/XP and am perhaps biased. Note: author has recently added a note that its not Vista-ready (and may or may not ever be :-( ). That alone is sufficient to keep me on WinXp as long as possible. Regards ... Alec -- buralex-gmail -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as ", " save a copy ", "save", " open"
On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:10:46 Sven Neumann wrote: > The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4 > already makes use of this feature in some places. I am not > convinced though that this would be a good way to solve the > problems brought up the user who started the thread. I am imagining a short drop-down history of places one last saved things, preferably with a shortcut key (Ins? Who knows?) which will instantly recall the most recent one. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", "save a copy", "save", "open"
Hi, On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 22:40 +0200, Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote: > May be Gimp can auto add/remove Bookmarks? I guess this can give more > problems than adressed. > > Or may be after modifying file-chooser, there will be a place for > app-bookmarks in plus of user-bookmarks? The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4 already makes use of this feature in some places. I am not convinced though that this would be a good way to solve the problems brought up the user who started the thread. Perhaps we need to collect the typical usage scenarios that involve use of the file-chooser and evaluate how the current solution deals with them and if there are ways to improve it. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", "save a copy", "save", "open"
El dv 28 de 09 del 2007 a les 19:34 +0200, en/na Sven Neumann va escriure: > It's not easy to find a good solution that fits for all cases. For GIMP > 2.4 we have changed the behavior of the Open and Save dialogs so that > they open in the last used directory if you are using them from the same > image. For all other needs, I suggest that you use the Bookmarks feature > of the file-chooser dialog to avoid having to renavigate the filesystem. Just a couple of ideas. May be Gimp can auto add/remove Bookmarks? I guess this can give more problems than adressed. Or may be after modifying file-chooser, there will be a place for app-bookmarks in plus of user-bookmarks? Yours Pere ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", "save a copy", "save", "open"
Hi, On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 21:57 +0200, firepol wrote: > I open an image stored > in /media/usb-external/graphics/work/animals/cat/mycat/christmas/cat.jpg > > Now, if I cut a part of the image and I paste it into a new image, > then I click "save as" I get as default my home directory (in my > case /home/paul/) which is very annoying since I'd like to save the > modified image in the same folder (last location) I've just opened a > few seconds before. I need to re-navigate the whole tree to select the > directory, loosing a bunch of time. Sometimes you want to save the image there, and sometimes you don't. Since there's no relation between the image you opened and the one you are saving, it would be somewhat odd to open the save file-chooser in the loaction where you last opened a different image. It's not easy to find a good solution that fits for all cases. For GIMP 2.4 we have changed the behavior of the Open and Save dialogs so that they open in the last used directory if you are using them from the same image. For all other needs, I suggest that you use the Bookmarks feature of the file-chooser dialog to avoid having to renavigate the filesystem. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] remember last location for "save as", "save a copy", "save", "open"
Hi there, I open an image stored in /media/usb-external/graphics/work/animals/cat/mycat/christmas/cat.jpg Now, if I cut a part of the image and I paste it into a new image, then I click "save as" I get as default my home directory (in my case /home/paul/) which is very annoying since I'd like to save the modified image in the same folder (last location) I've just opened a few seconds before. I need to re-navigate the whole tree to select the directory, loosing a bunch of time. The usability improvement I'm suggesting is to always remember the last location where the user opened or saved a file. E.g. I open a file from /media/usb-external/graphics, then I manipulate it and create a new image fom it, The "save as" should be already open the /media/usb-external/graphics. If I create a folder "temp" and save the file there, then click "open" I'd like to be aleady in /media/usb-external/graphics/temp (last location)... see what I mean? If you don't like this behavior, at least copy the behavior of Adobe Photoshop: it's not smart as the one I'm suggesting but at least it remembers the last saved folder, even if you close photoshop. Personally I think that it would be nice to change the behavior as I'm suggesting (I think it can save a lot of time to regular users), don't you think it's smarter to remember the last used location instead of navigating the directories tree each time you want to save a new image? Please consider this improvement... see also my initial request http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481002 Best regards, --firepol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
