Re: Gimp Lists?
Jonathan Gift: once again. On the Debian group it's invariably "how do I load Netscape?" can't be. debian sounds more like: "who do i have to ask for using netscape, and do we all agree on /usr/local/bin/. ?" clemens
Lame assistance with PNG Compression
Can anyone offer us assistance with converting/saving a jpg image as png? We have around 5000 images which come in at around 150kb each. We are hoping to convert the images to png because down the track we are hoping to convert them to thumbnails on the fly. The images will only be presented on the net (assume browser capability)and it is pretty important that we retain colour and shadow integrity. We have limited experience with Gimp however we are pretty confident that it will fit the bill and that once we determine the process we will be able to batch convert the images. The original jpg's are not all in the same format as they are taken with different digital cameras with different settings. Our aim would be to reduce the original jpg 1000 by 1000 and 120kb (as an eg) to a png 500 by 500 and about 30kb. As an example we have posted an original jpg image on the net at www.tablelandsonline.net.au/_test/lychee.jpg Cheers Mick
Re: Lame assistance with PNG Compression
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 01:39:13PM +1000, Mick Raynes wrote: Can anyone offer us assistance with converting/saving a jpg image as png? We have around 5000 images which come in at around 150kb each. We are hoping to convert the images to png because down the track we are hoping to convert them to thumbnails on the fly. The images will only be presented on the net (assume browser capability)and it is pretty important that we retain colour and shadow integrity. We have limited experience with Gimp however we are pretty confident that it will fit the bill and that once we determine the process we will be able to batch convert the images. The original jpg's are not all in the same format as they are taken with different digital cameras with different settings. Our aim would be to reduce the original jpg 1000 by 1000 and 120kb (as an eg) to a png 500 by 500 and about 30kb. As an example we have posted an original jpg image on the net at www.tablelandsonline.net.au/_test/lychee.jpg If you are looking for a file size reduction, then I don't think the PNG format will fit your bill. PNG files generally (in my experiance) have a much large file size than a JPEG. Also, since you source image is already in JPEG format I don't think you'll see any increase in image quality. - Tal -- -- -- | Tal Danzig | Libranet Linux | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The TOP Desktop! | | http://tal.thepenismightier.net/ | http://www.libranet.com/ | -- -- Beneath the rule of men entirely great, the pen is mightier than the sword. -- Edward G Bulwer
Re: Lame assistance with PNG Compression
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Mick Raynes wrote: cameras with different settings. Our aim would be to reduce the original jpg 1000 by 1000 and 120kb (as an eg) to a png 500 by 500 and about 30kb. As an example we have posted an original jpg image on the net at www.tablelandsonline.net.au/_test/lychee.jpg PNG is the wrong choice if you need small files - PNG uses lossless compression, so converting your JPGs to PNG will increase the file sizes quite a bit. For example: Your original 1024x768 JPG was 98635 bytes. Scaled to 512x384 and saved as PNG, it was 272249 bytes. I imagine you'll get similar results for all your images. later, Andrew
RE: Lame assistance with PNG Compression
Thanks Andrew. With indexing we can reduce them to around 70kb? Any other suggestions then for compression of those images to around 30kb which we can use the gd library or imagemagick to convert to thumbnails? ~~-Original Message- ~~From: Andrew Kieschnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ~~Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2001 2:17 PM ~~To: Mick Raynes ~~Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ~~Subject: Re: Lame assistance with PNG Compression ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Mick Raynes wrote: ~~ ~~ cameras with different settings. Our aim would be to ~~reduce the original ~~ jpg 1000 by 1000 and 120kb (as an eg) to a png 500 by 500 ~~and about 30kb. ~~ As an example we have posted an original jpg image on the net at ~~ www.tablelandsonline.net.au/_test/lychee.jpg ~~ ~~PNG is the wrong choice if you need small files - PNG uses lossless ~~compression, so converting your JPGs to PNG will increase the file ~~sizes quite a bit. ~~ ~~For example: ~~ ~~Your original 1024x768 JPG was 98635 bytes. Scaled to 512x384 ~~and saved ~~as PNG, it was 272249 bytes. ~~ ~~I imagine you'll get similar results for all your images. ~~ ~~later, ~~Andrew ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~
RE: Lame assistance with PNG Compression
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Mick Raynes wrote: Thanks Andrew. With indexing we can reduce them to around 70kb? Any other suggestions then for compression of those images to around 30kb which we can use the gd library or imagemagick to convert to thumbnails? You can reduce them quite a bit by converting to indexed color, but for your example image, I had to go all the way down to 32 colors to get something around 70kb for 512x384. I'd recommend using jpeg if possible - gd and imagemagick can both deal directly with jpeg (unless they were compiled without jpeg support). later, Andrew
