Re: [Gimp-user] Importing PDF into Gimp 2.8.18

[Liam R. E. Quin]

On Thu, 2016-10-20 at 22:59 -0400, David Corbitt wrote:
> 
> https://filebin.net/vi1uxshq2x85hxwn/North_by_Northwest__1959_.pdf 

This made GIMP (2.9)'s pdf loader crash for me on Linux, but I could
open the document ith eveince, print to a PDF file, and then open the
PDF file.

The stack trace wasn't useful.

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-user] Redesign "move selection"?

[Liam R. E. Quin]

On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 00:29 +, Richard wrote:
> 
[...]
> The first (and most obvious) alternative is to make this behavior a
> user configurable option in the GIMP preferences -- like we already
> have for whether the Move tool should default to picking to moving (I
> prefer picking).

Fewer options better. Easier to learn. Easier to help people. Easier to
test.


> A second alternative would be to give the selection tools a
> sensitivity threshold -- i.e. you must click and drag the cursor a
> minimum # of screen pixels before the tool will start the drag
> action.

This might work or might be irritating to people who want to move by
one pixel.

I wish we had on-click, on-drag script hooks so that this choice could
be scripted. Imagine making the default be to move and use
resynthesizer to fill in the missing details!

Without that, seems to me the current situation isn't bad, and that
there have been fewer complaints this way round, even though I can see
it's not ideal.

Liam [ankh]


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Re: [Gimp-user] Importing PDF into Gimp 2.8.18

[David Corbitt]

Sorry, I’m new with imgur after it was suggested to me. When I dragged a PDF to 
imgur, it got converted to a jpeg. I guess I’m looking a bit foolish to all the 
expert code writers here. Has no one else experienced this problem of GIMP 
2.8.18 not importing certain PDF files? There is another website (filebin.net 
) that allows uploading of PDFs and this particular PDF 
will not import into my GIMP 2.8.18 on iMac (late 2009 running OS 10.12). 
Perhaps now someone can take a look and tell me why GIMP is not importing this 
and many others. I hope so. Perhaps I should revert to OS 10.11 (El Capitan) 
and GIMP 2.8.10?

https://filebin.net/vi1uxshq2x85hxwn/North_by_Northwest__1959_.pdf 



Thanks
Dave Corbitt


> On Oct 20, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Pat David  wrote:
> 
> You can try something like filebin.net or transfer.sh to upload your PDF.
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:21 PM Owen Cook  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Importing PDF into Gimp 2.8.18
>>> 
>>> OK, I uploaded one of the PDF files that GIMP 2.8.18 will not import as
>> an example. I hope someone can tell me why this version of GIMP will not
>> load this.
>>> http://imgur.com/gallery/h0SLM 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nope,
>> 
>> That's an image.
>> 
>> 
>> Owen

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Re: [Gimp-user] Redesign "move selection"?

[Richard]

From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Alexandre 
Prokoudine 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 4:41 PM
To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Redesign "move selection"?

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

> Ages ago, click-drags did move the selection content without additional
> modifier keys.
>
> But we got complaints that it is far too easy to accidentally move this
> selected content by minute amounts and not even notice this. So it got
> changed to the current behavior.

And I can't help myself wondering if that was a case of a vocal
minority affecting a design decision that now irritates a vocal
majority :)

Alex
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Oh, boy, THIS subject.  Where my workflow is concerned this was the BIGGEST 
breaking change GIMP ever made -- yes, even bigger than when 2.8 split Save and 
Export.  (And we remember all the complaints over that, right?)

I am one of those where when I no-modifier click and drag a selection my 
preferred action is to pick up those pixels and move them around (rather than 
shifting the mask).  It is ... a minimum of annoying that we have zero means of 
configuring GIMP to match our workflow in this respect.


While the decision to change it was definitely made in good faith, I wonder if 
it was made largely because (1) it was easy to remap how the selection tools 
handle modifiers, and (2) a lack of proposed alternatives?


The first (and most obvious) alternative is to make this behavior a user 
configurable option in the GIMP preferences -- like we already have for whether 
the Move tool should default to picking to moving (I prefer picking).


A second alternative would be to give the selection tools a sensitivity 
threshold -- i.e. you must click and drag the cursor a minimum # of screen 
pixels before the tool will start the drag action.  I wonder if this could have 
solved most of those accidental microadjustments people complained about in 
GIMP 2.2 without introducing a breaking change


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Re: [Gimp-user] Importing PDF into Gimp 2.8.18

[Pat David]

You can try something like filebin.net or transfer.sh to upload your PDF.
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:21 PM Owen Cook  wrote:

>
>
> > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Importing PDF into Gimp 2.8.18
> >
> > OK, I uploaded one of the PDF files that GIMP 2.8.18 will not import as
> an example. I hope someone can tell me why this version of GIMP will not
> load this.
> > http://imgur.com/gallery/h0SLM 
>
>
>
> Nope,
>
> That's an image.
>
>
> Owen
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Re: [Gimp-user] Redesign "move selection"?

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

> Ages ago, click-drags did move the selection content without additional
> modifier keys.
>
> But we got complaints that it is far too easy to accidentally move this
> selected content by minute amounts and not even notice this. So it got
> changed to the current behavior.

And I can't help myself wondering if that was a case of a vocal
minority affecting a design decision that now irritates a vocal
majority :)

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] Color change not effective

[Ofnuts]

On 19/10/16 19:38, MarcP wrote:

I'm trying to change the color of a coffee bag in a picture. I've tried several
different methods with an extra layer set to "hue" mode. Here are the youtube
channels where I saw the videos.



Changing the hue works on bright and saturated colors,  not a something 
very dark. Try the "Dodge", "Screen", or "Grain merge" modes.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Redesign "move selection"?

[Michael Schumacher]

On 10/21/2016 01:06 AM, Ofnuts wrote:
> On 20/10/16 19:30, lofreq wrote:
>> So my two questions are as follows, I guess:
>> 
>> 1. Is it at all possible to just click and drag selections? Why is
>> it necessary to hold down ctrl+alt to accomplish this?
> 
> Because click without key modifiers has other uses. 

Ages ago, click-drags did move the selection content without additional
modifier keys.

But we got complaints that it is far too easy to accidentally move this
selected content by minute amounts and not even notice this. So it got
changed to the current behavior.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Is it possible to save layer effects

[Ofnuts]

On 20/10/16 21:19, calcat wrote:

 From my reading I've learned that there isn't a macro-recorder sort of thing,
and I'm not sure if a script would work, even if I were able to create something
like that at this point.

A script would very likely work.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Redesign "move selection"?

[Ofnuts]

On 20/10/16 19:30, lofreq wrote:

So my two questions are as follows, I guess:

1. Is it at all possible to just click and drag selections? Why is it necessary
to hold down ctrl+alt to accomplish this?


Because click without key modifiers has other uses. Maybe you shouldn't 
be using
selections on a bigger layer,  and instead be using a text layer for 
each piece of text.

2. Is the masking behavior of floating layers a bug or a feature? Either or, it
needs fixing. Or at the very least a toggle, because I can't imagine a single
instance where that would be preferable to just using an actual mask.


What you want is Layer>Layer to image size.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Semi Transparency

[Ofnuts]

On 19/10/16 19:08, discgolfer wrote:

I've been looking everywhere for a tutorial on how to get this sort of
transparency effect on a photo, .. can't find anything. How do you take an image
and put a gradual transparency effect on it where it starts out 100% on the
edges then slowly darkens up towards the middle. Like this one:
http://i.imgur.com/B1gl3Ml.png



The quick solution:

* Layer>Transparency>Add alpha channel
* Make a selection, on what you want to keep
* Select>Invert
* Select>Feather (the value you give is the span of the partial 
transparency)

* Edit>Clear

The "Pro" solution is to use "layer masks": 
http://blog.patdavid.net/2011/10/getting-around-in-gimp-layer-masks.html



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Re: [Gimp-user] Undo a Step in Python-Fu

[Joao S. O. Bueno]

> TL;DR:   I need a way to either go back an undo step (Ctrl-Z) or to clear an
> undo step from the list in my Python script.

There is no API to adding, popping or applying undo steps.

In the past, I've done things like duplicate the image on plug-in
start, and disable undo completely
on the copy - and copying the plug-in results back to the originating
image on conclusion. That puts a single "paste" operation on your
undo-stack (and can be really faster for plug-ins performing, say,
lots of brushstrokes).

>From your message, it seems like you've tried a lot the existing
possibilities, and probably this trick won't help you at all - but,
that is only what exists on GIMP.

  js
 -><-

On 20 October 2016 at 04:35, FierySwordswoman  wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>
> I've just started the task of re-writing all of my scripts in a more
> professional manner. Hand-made UI, ability to be imported as a module, etc.
> However, I've come across a problem with managing the plugins' undo groups.
>
> Initially, I put the whole plugin inside of a single undo group, but this 
> would
> mean you could have a massive multiple-gigabyte undo group if the user ran the
> functions a lot. I've now frozen the undo group for actions such as temporary
> Previewing, but the main function has to be in an undo group.
>
> My the current plugin I'm working on operates as such:
> -The 'Preview' function shows the black threshold that the bloom plugin
> will count as a 'light area'. The preview layer is removed whenever the next
> action (running main function, previewing again, closing window) is done. This
> operation will thus never be a part of the final result, and I can freeze it 
> out
> of the undo-groups.
>
> -The 'Execute' function runs the main script (bloom in this case) *without*
> closing the window. This allows the user to re-adjust the settings and
> re-execute very easily. Obviously, this is in an undo-group since it'll be the
> final result. However, due to the possibility of executing multiple times, it
> can either A: Creates a lot of undo groups or B: One undo group with a bunch 
> of
> redundant information depending on where I place the groupings.
> I've attached the .py file to this post in case you want to see the problem in
> GIMP first-hand.
>
>
> TL;DR:   I need a way to either go back an undo step (Ctrl-Z) or to clear an
> undo step from the list in my Python script.
>
> Attachments:
> * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/303/original/fsw-bloom.py
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Re: [Gimp-user] Help with installing Local Help

[Jernej Simončič]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 11:57:35 +0200, ilinkcs wrote:

> I've downloaded and succesfully run to completion the UK (en)  help install 
> file
> at https://www.gimp.org/downloads/. Several times. Restarted Gimp, exited,
> re-installed, restarted, etc. etc.

Make sure your UI language is set to UK English, otherwise GIMP will look
for US English help file.

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[Gimp-user] Is it possible to save layer effects

[calcat]

I'm using Linux exclusively.  I'm learning GIMP again and am really happy with
the layer FX and other filters, especially.  GIMP is great depth.

I have Photoshop Elements 10, can't get it to work properly in Wine or Crossover
(type tool issues, porting over other .asl files, opening some .psd files but
not others).  I prefer not to use it in Windows, which I could boot into,
because it's... Windows HA!

In GIMP, is there any way at all to save layer effects that I've used, so that I
can use them again?  It's something that I often have need of.  Currently, I'm
creating a text file, for each instance, that lists settings for bevel, drop
shadow, colour, etc.  It would be great if there were a work-around for this.

>From my reading I've learned that there isn't a macro-recorder sort of thing,
and I'm not sure if a script would work, even if I were able to create something
like that at this point.

I've done a lot of searching, and finally decided to go to the source :)

TIA,


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[Gimp-user] Redesign "move selection"?

[lofreq]

I am a new user, but I know exactly what I need from GIMP.  I tested out my
workflow from start to finish the other day, and while most of my flubs were
from inexperience, a lost a lot of time to trying to move selections around. I
did some research and found that many others share similar frustrations with how
unintuitive the move tool is in this regard. Is there any talk of redesigning
it?

I also encountered another problem with the feature that I did not see addressed
anywhere else, which may be actually a bug. So what I use it for (and have with
great ease and efficiency in Photoshop) is in "hand" lettering my comics -
basically, I will write out the contents of the word balloons in a template
file, copy and paste them into my pages, and fine-tune their placement. These
wind up being hand-written letters on transparent layers. The dimensions of
these layers are much smaller than that of the page itself. However, I usually
need to move individual words or lines of text around once I've pasted it on top
of the word balloon, and I've found that I cannot move the selection/floating
layer beyond the borders of the original layer. In fact, it disappears,
functioning like a mask. I know the current solution is to copy/paste the
selection content into a new layer, but that seems excessive, given that
sometimes I have to move dozens of words or lines around on any given page, and
sometimes by only a few pixels, especially in the case of tweaking the spacing
between individual letters.

So my two questions are as follows, I guess:

1. Is it at all possible to just click and drag selections? Why is it necessary
to hold down ctrl+alt to accomplish this?

2. Is the masking behavior of floating layers a bug or a feature? Either or, it
needs fixing. Or at the very least a toggle, because I can't imagine a single
instance where that would be preferable to just using an actual mask.

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[Gimp-user] Help with installing Local Help

[rich2005]

>Hi.
>I'm running Win10.
>
>I've downloaded and succesfully run to completion the UK (en)  help
>install file at https://www.gimp.org/downloads/. Several times.
>Restarted Gimp, exited, re-installed, restarted, etc. etc.
>
>Gimp, however, persists in telling me that "The GIMP user manual is
>not installed on your computer".
>

This is a common problem, been this way for a long time, and  re-installing
over-and-over never fixes anything

Easiest solution:

Go to C:\Program Files\GIMP 2\share\gimp\2.0\help\en_GB

Rename the en_GB to en

Start Gimp, check in Edit -> Preferences -> Help System

Attachments:
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[Gimp-user] run 2.9 and 2.8 at the same time

[gariac]

Opensuse 13.2
Linux linux-h57q.site 3.16.7-42-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 28 12:20:57 UTC
2016 (35ab731) x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Well by some miracle (satisfying all dependencies), I managed to compile 2.9.4.
Source in /usr/local/src and the binary goes in /usr/local/bin. A library was
built in /usr/local/lib64. All well I suppose, but when I try to run the 2.9.4
binary, I get:
--
Libgimp version mismatch!

The GIMP binary cannot run with a libgimp version
other than its own. This is GIMP 2.9.4, but the
libgimp version is 2.8.16.

Maybe you have GIMP versions in both /usr and /usr/local ?


Er, well that IS what I'm trying to do. Is there something in the make that I
need to set up?

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[Gimp-user] Color change not effective

[MarcP]

I'm trying to change the color of a coffee bag in a picture. I've tried several
different methods with an extra layer set to "hue" mode. Here are the youtube
channels where I saw the videos.

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgZXKjAnU-0

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2_887Lw-vo

these are great methods, however when I try them on my pic the colors are very 
transparent. Whereas in the videos they seem allot more opaque. Attached you
will find the picture that I'm trying to change.

Attachments:
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/302/original/20161017_051649.jpg

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[Gimp-user] Semi Transparency

[discgolfer]

I've been looking everywhere for a tutorial on how to get this sort of
transparency effect on a photo, .. can't find anything. How do you take an image
and put a gradual transparency effect on it where it starts out 100% on the
edges then slowly darkens up towards the middle. Like this one: 
http://i.imgur.com/B1gl3Ml.png

Thanks

Attachments:
* 
http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/300/original/Jesus_with_transparency.png
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/301/original/Jesus.jpg

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[Gimp-user] multi language issue

[Ari'el Jeshophat Ben Klezmer]

has anyone have a problem like this multiple languages on the menu and display? 
Spanish, Hebrew and English, how do i fix this??





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Re: [Gimp-user] Importing PDF into Gimp 2.8.18

[David Corbitt]

OK, I uploaded one of the PDF files that GIMP 2.8.18 will not import as an 
example. I hope someone can tell me why this version of GIMP will not load this.
http://imgur.com/gallery/h0SLM 

Dave Corbitt


> On Oct 20, 2016, at 12:21 PM, Pat David  wrote:
> 
> It might be more helpful to include a link to one of the PDF files that are 
> causing the problem, if possible.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 7:05 AM David Corbitt  > wrote:
> Here is a link to the error message I receive when I try to import certain 
> PDFs. I don’t know why some work and some don’t. I never had this problem 
> with GIMP 2.8.10 but 2.8.18 for some reason is fussier with PDFs. Can someone 
> tell me why?
> http://imgur.com/a/QgkDj 
> Dave
> 
> > On Oct 19, 2016, at 6:47 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine 
> > > 
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:07 PM, David Corbitt wrote:
> >
> >> The problem I am now experiencing is I can no longer import certain
> >> PDFs to GIMP. It used to be really easy but now, no joy. I hope this
> >> will be fixed soon.
> >
> > It probably won't unless someone (maybe you?) gives us specific
> > information about those PDF files. Like what's different about them.
> >
> >> Attached is a screen shot of an error message when trying to open
> >> some PDFs.
> >
> > Please upload to smth like imgur.com  and send a link.
> >
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Re: [Gimp-user] Importing PDF into Gimp 2.8.18

[Pat David]

It might be more helpful to include a link to one of the PDF files that are
causing the problem, if possible.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 7:05 AM David Corbitt 
wrote:

> Here is a link to the error message I receive when I try to import certain
> PDFs. I don’t know why some work and some don’t. I never had this problem
> with GIMP 2.8.10 but 2.8.18 for some reason is fussier with PDFs. Can
> someone tell me why?
> http://imgur.com/a/QgkDj
> Dave
>
> > On Oct 19, 2016, at 6:47 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
> alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:07 PM, David Corbitt wrote:
> >
> >> The problem I am now experiencing is I can no longer import certain
> >> PDFs to GIMP. It used to be really easy but now, no joy. I hope this
> >> will be fixed soon.
> >
> > It probably won't unless someone (maybe you?) gives us specific
> > information about those PDF files. Like what's different about them.
> >
> >> Attached is a screen shot of an error message when trying to open
> >> some PDFs.
> >
> > Please upload to smth like imgur.com and send a link.
> >
> > Alex
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Re: [Gimp-user] Importing PDF into Gimp 2.8.18

[David Corbitt]

Here is a link to the error message I receive when I try to import certain 
PDFs. I don’t know why some work and some don’t. I never had this problem with 
GIMP 2.8.10 but 2.8.18 for some reason is fussier with PDFs. Can someone tell 
me why?
http://imgur.com/a/QgkDj
Dave

> On Oct 19, 2016, at 6:47 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 8:07 PM, David Corbitt wrote:
> 
>> The problem I am now experiencing is I can no longer import certain
>> PDFs to GIMP. It used to be really easy but now, no joy. I hope this
>> will be fixed soon.
> 
> It probably won't unless someone (maybe you?) gives us specific
> information about those PDF files. Like what's different about them.
> 
>> Attached is a screen shot of an error message when trying to open
>> some PDFs.
> 
> Please upload to smth like imgur.com and send a link.
> 
> Alex
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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8.x on macOS Sierra

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

Hello,

We are getting more and more reports that automatic user interface
language detection is broken on macOS Sierra, and the wrong language
is used in the user interface of GIMP. If you've run into this issue,
you can help us investigate this further.

Please download and run a script that Kristian Rietveld wrote, then
reply to this email with the output. The script will tell us what
language environment variables are set on your macOS Sierra system.

1. Save the https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=338077 script
as e.g. script.py

2. In the terminal window, please run:

$ python script.py

3. Please select the output, copy it with Cmd-C, and paste it to your email.

For more info you can read https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=770708.

Alex
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