Re: [Gimp-user] New Gimp Manual

2014-08-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* billn for...@gimpusers.com [08-28-14 17:23]:
 Am 28.08.2014 um 10:37 schrieb Alexandre Prokoudine:
 I see; e.g. for german: sudo apt-get install gimp-help-de
 
 Sorry, it was a hard day's night. :-D
 Hi, Alex,
 
 each supported language has it's own .deb + one common .deb.
 
 Thorsten 
 
 
 This is what I get when I try to get the help files
 
 [sudo] password for billn: 
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree   
 Reading state information... Done
 Package gimp-help is a virtual package provided by:
   gimp-help-hr 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-en-gb 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-ja 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-sl 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-pt-br 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-el 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-da 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-ca 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-nn 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-pl 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-es 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-ru 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-ko 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-nl 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-it 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-zh-cn 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-sv 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-fr 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-en 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
   gimp-help-de 1:2.8.2-0trusty0~ppa
 You should explicitly select one to install.
 
 E: Package 'gimp-help' has no installation candidate
 billn@bjoe-N189:~$ 

In *very* simple terms, Install the particular package you wish. 
gimp-help will not install, but gimp-help-es or which you want will.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Trouble opening JPG files with black features

2014-08-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* C210LUV for...@gimpusers.com [08-18-14 13:58]:
 Before deleting your EXIF data, can you post an example image that can
 be
 tested by others?
 
 Sorry this took so long, was trying to figure a way to reduce the size of the
 image without being able to use GIMP, so I just did an arbitrary crop of one 
 of
 the images in question. Attached is one image in a series taken to eventually 
 be
 merged together, cropped for upload size and still unable to be opened using
 GIMP.
 
 I downloaded a program called Exiftool  to try to remove Exif data, but the
 language is way over my head and I haven't even tried.
 
 Attachments:
 * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/146/original/052.JPG

I have no problem opening 052.JPG with gimp-2.8.10 on openSUSE Factory.

Screens-shot:
  http;//wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/screenshot.052.jpg

  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Trouble opening JPG files with black features

2014-08-16 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* C210LUV for...@gimpusers.com [08-16-14 21:18]:
 I have recently been getting into long-exposure and night-time
 photography.  I am using a Canon Digital Rebel, and Windows 7 64-bit OS. 
 I am updated to GIMP 2.8.10.
 
 Whenever I try to open a JPG file in GIMP that contains any solid black
 features (i.e.  black night background, even black silhouettes during
 fairly well-lit evening shots), I see the program thinking for about
 five seconds (rotating circle) and then, nothing.  I have waited as long
 as ten minutes with no results.  I have converted the RAW files to JPEG
 on two different editing programs before bringing them to GIMP.  The
 image thumbnail appears with no hesitation, but the full image can not
 be opened.

Maybe provide a location to dl images which display this problem ???

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Re: [Gimp-user] Scroll buttons

2014-08-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* 127markaz for...@gimpusers.com [08-13-14 08:56]:
 Thanks so much for the replies akovia, Jernej Simončič and Kevin Payne. 
 I will start with changing the Gimp theme back to the default and work
 from there.  I’ll report back on any successes or failures.
 Interesting. Started in Gimp with Edit  Preferences  Theme only to
 find that there was no default theme.  I do remember that there used to
 be a Small theme located there as well.  Perhaps this IS the problem.
 
 Then restored Windows back to the default theme and there was NO
 EFFECT on the scroll buttons in Gimp.
 
 If I were just to re-install Gimp (not uninstall it first) to regain the
 Default and Small themes, would it delete the current themes in the
 themes folder?

Just to be safe (!TM), move or copy your themes to another temporary
directory prior to reinstall so you can move/copy them back if necessary
and you have removed that worry from your task.

gud luk,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Scroll buttons

2014-08-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* 127markaz for...@gimpusers.com [08-12-14 14:53]:
 * 127markaz for...@gimpusers.com [08-12-14 14:32]:
 From the information you have provided, I would *guess* your
 display/window manager is setting it.
 Thank you for your reply, Patrick. I must admit that I'm not familiar
 with Gimp's display/window manager.  Looked in Preferences  Display but
 see nothing that controls button positions.  Is there other information
 I can provide to clarify the problem?

GIMP does not get to choose it's display (or window) manager, you do.  I
use KDE4 on openSUSE-Factory and see nothing resembling your example.  But
I have 2.8.10 so it may have changed.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Scroll buttons

2014-08-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* 127markaz for...@gimpusers.com [08-12-14 15:07]:
 * 127markaz for...@gimpusers.com [08-12-14 14:53]:

  GIMP does not get to choose it's display (or window) manager, you do. 
  I use KDE4 on openSUSE-Factory and see nothing resembling your
  example.  But I have 2.8.10 so it may have changed.

 I thought you were referring to a Gimp function. Did a Windows restart to no
 avail. Is the window in 2.8.10 substantially different?

I really cannot remember any difference in the display, but restarting
windows of what-ever version surely would have no bearing even thou
windows users have that *habit* deeply ingrained.  Aiui the window manager
determines how various elements are displayed and I doubt that GIMP has
that finely grained control to actually determine the *location* of the
slider controls but rather the display of and left/right or top/bottom
location, not the actual arrows themselves.

perhaps a windows user can advise, I have no copy of windows since 3.0. 
FOSS!

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Re: [Gimp-user] logo

2014-07-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jim Welch j...@newdaynepal.com [07-29-14 12:34]:
   
 
 Have you ever seen a professional photographer take their logo and
 ghost it, then place it on one of their photos so no one will steal
 their photos off the net?
 

You might consider reducing the viewing size and pixel size of the image
provided for display and forgo watermarking it.  Most aren't interested
in stealing something that is not really beneficial.  Just adjust the
size and quality until you feel safe.
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Re: [Gimp-user] ufraw/lensfun

2014-07-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Maurizio Loreti maurizio.lor...@gmail.com [07-10-14 04:37]:
 [...]
 I have problems with the lensfun corrections to my photo pictures; I
 am not sure if this is related to GIMP itself, or to the Mac port I am
 using.
 
 What happens is:
 
 if I open a Canon RAW image (a CR2 file), GIMP recalls the ufraw
 plugin window; in the third tab (Lens Correction), ufraw does not know
 my camera Canon 6D, nor my other camera Canon Powershot G15, nor my lens
 Canon 24-70 EF L II (note the II), nor other lenses I have.
 If I open a Canon JPG image, the plugin GIMP-Lensfun v0.2.3 (Filters -
 Enhance - GIMP-Lensfun, inserted I think in the distribution by skl)
 does not know the same cameras and objectives.
 
 The lensfun correction files are shipped by skl in the directory
 /Applications/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/share/lensfun/ , and are named
 compact-canon.xml and slr-canon.xml.
 
 I have tried do download the last versions from the lensfun
 distribution, now hosted on sourceforge; under the URL
 http://sourceforge.net/p/lensfun/code/ci/master/tree/data/db/ there are
 three files canon-related, named compact-canon.xml, slr-canon.xml and
 mil-canon.xml.  Just copying the first two files, or all three, on my
 GIMP tree, makes GIMP choke on the format of these files - both for RAW
 images and for JPG images; probably the xml file format has changed with
 the time.
 
 QUESTION: how can I upgrade GIMP so that it will use modern and complete
 lensfun files?

You don't have to, just replace the compact-canon.xml and/or
slr-canon.xml files with the one that contains the information you need. 
Or just edit the current files adding the relevant information.  I use
darktable rather than gimp for raw processing and had to do that when I
upgraded my D200 to D7100.  And there is still missing lenses in the
lensfun database.

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Re: [Gimp-user] ufraw/lensfun

2014-07-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Maurizio Loreti maurizio.lor...@gmail.com [07-10-14 09:32]:
 On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  You don't have to, just replace the compact-canon.xml and/or
  slr-canon.xml files with the one that contains the information you need.
 
 
 *As I said*, replacing these files don't work; their xml format is
 different.
 
 If I replace the files, there will be no diagnostic in the terminal where I
 start GIMP; but there will be NO Canon cameras and NO Canon objectives at
 all available for ufraw into GIMP.
 
 Copying the same new files in the ufraw tree makes ufraw barf with the
 diagnostic /opt/local/share/lensfun/compact-canon.xml:22:61: Unknown
 element html! and several others similar.  Yes, I could edit the
 current files adding the relevant information, but if the lensfun file
 format has changed this 1) requires actions from the ufraw and the GIMP
 team; and 2) for me, merging the information from the new files into the
 old ones, if they obey a different syntax, could be a nightmare.

err, xml = xml, but editing by hand should be no big thing.  

AND, the barf you see is because you have not copied xml files.  afaik,
there is no element html! in any of the lensfun xml files.  I just
grepped my entire lensfun install and there is no html appearing in
*any* xml file.

*As I said*
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Re: [Gimp-user] ufraw/lensfun

2014-07-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Maurizio Loreti maurizio.lor...@gmail.com [07-10-14 12:58]:
 On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  AND, the barf you see is because you have not copied xml files.  afaik,
  there is no element html! in any of the lensfun xml files.  I just
  grepped my entire lensfun install and there is no html appearing in
  *any* xml file.
 
 
 About that you are right; I got the files using a wget
 http://URL/slr-canon.xml; and wget got all the data of the code frame.  My
 fault.
 
 HOWEVER, downloading the files correctly, GIMP and ufraw both barf again;
 the first line reads lensdatabase version=1 and is not accepted: the
 old files begin with a plain lensdatabase.  See, when you say
 
  err, xml = xm
 
 you are not right: the _format_ of the xml file has changed, indeed, as I
 said.  But the change now is straightforward.

That is possible, but in this case I believe not.

Why don't you edit the version line and make it what you believe
gimp/ufraw desire and try again?  You do want it to work???

And a grep for version of my lensfun-data-0.2.8-9.1.noarch install
reveals nill.  I believe 2.8 is the latest from sf and 2.8-9.1 is the
latest on openSUSE which I run.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing a resized Image

2014-06-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* fotch for...@gimpusers.com [06-08-14 10:16]:
 * fotch for...@gimpusers.com [06-07-14 16:47]:
 search google for your answer, but:  image_size != print_size
 they are not the same thing!
 
 Patrick, Thanks for responding.  I did as you suggested and found the
 Gimp User Manual task: 4.3.  Change the Size of an Image for print.  I
 think I understand the difference between the two and the point you
 made.  However, I still don't understand why the image I'm looking at in
 print preview isn't the same size as the image I resized.  

Again, image_size and print_size are two completely different things and
only related by expected quality output; larger image_size *frequently*
means better print quality, but not always.

 The background sized to 11x17 appears to be correct in print preview,
 but the image I resized (4x's it's original size) on the 11x17
 background prints as it's original size.

Yes, image_size != print_size
 
 I'm not sure if I'm explaining this correctly, but you can enlarge an
 image and print it out to it's new size can't you?  

You certainly can, but you must change the *print_size* when you export
the image or in the print application.

 I'm on a Mac and can't figure out how to do a screen capture to show you
 what I'm talking about.

I do not need it.  I understand what you are saying, but I have failed to
make you understand the difference between image_size and print_size.
 
 Any other thoughts?

open your image in gimp
select image then print size
adjust the print_size, width/height or x/y resolution
export the image or print from gimp paying attention to print size and
  making necessary adjustments if needed.
  
There are explanations:
  http://easybasicphotography.com/image-resolution-pixels-print-sizes.html
  http://www.photoshopessentials.com/essentials/image-resolution/

Megabytes of an image explains the storage size on disk
Height/width explains/describes the canvas size which is *not* the
  display or print size

Pixels describes the number of points per inch/... that an image is set to
  display or print  
The same image will display much smaller on a 1920x1080 screen that it
  will on a 1024x768 screen (from the pixel setting)

If you enlarge the canvas size of an image x2 w/o changeing the pixel
  settings, you halve the pixel settings; ie: 300x300 to 150/150.  (really
  you have quartered it taking width and height into account).

I hope this helps.  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing a resized Image

2014-06-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* fotch for...@gimpusers.com [06-07-14 16:47]:
 I tried the search engine for an answer but didn't have any luck.  I
 just resized a basic line drawing image using the resize tool, saved the
 file and tried to print it.  When doing a print preview I noticed the
 image is the size of the original.  What have I missed?

search google for your answer, but:  image_size != print_size
they are not the same thing!
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Re: [Gimp-user] 4 character file extensions problems

2014-06-01 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* akovia akov...@eml.cc [06-01-14 14:59]:
 For some reason I get an Unsupported File Format error when trying to
 open a .jpeg file. Renaming it to .jpg works fine though.
 
 After some searching, I found this thread that appears to be the same
 problem.
 
 [1]http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/15372-unsupported-file-for
 mat
 
 
 
 I haven't been able to find a solution yet and was hoping someone here
 could shed some light.

Just cp'ed a jpg to jpeg extention and opened with gimp-2.8.10 on openSUSE
Tumbleweed, which equates to 13.1+, w/o a problem ???


 xubuntu 12.04LTS
 
 gimp 2.8.10
 [...]
 References
 
 1. http://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/15372-unsupported-file-format


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Re: [Gimp-user] Units Preference

2014-04-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Creighton Bell creigh...@sonic.net [04-28-14 14:53]:
 
 On Apr 26, 2014, at 11:27 PM, Owen rc...@pcug.org.au wrote:
 
 
  I use inches, and when I open an image, and I resize it, the dialog
  is in mm. Is there a setting to make inches my default unit?
  
 Try Edit-Preferences-Default Image

 I Have changed the preferences to inches. But any jpeg I edit, the
 dialog box for Scale image always defaults to Pixels, print size is in
 mm, and canvas size is Pixels.

 Even if I change these settings for one image, when I open another
 image, I have to change my settings all over again.

 It seems like GIMP should as least keep my settings for the current
 session, and it would be nice if it could remember them until I change
 them.


GIMP does, it appears you have a system or install problem or are not
using packaging from a recognized gimp repository.  Some facts might help
as you have *only* offered a problem.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Problem importing raw Minolta and Sony files

2014-04-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
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The image provided when opened with auto whitebalance displays a heavy
magenta cast but looks quite average when daylight whitebalance is applied
and even better when exposure is pushed to ~2.0.  Perhaps you have some
screen color correction or other saved parameter skewing ufraw.

I see no particular problem besides a lot of un-needed html bloating a
text function.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp

2014-03-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Full Name jakkh...@myway.com [03-13-14 17:50]:
 You know... I just wanted to express my concern of Gimp and if you're
 not the right person than pass it on.

 [...] 

 Have a nice day~

And you are so proud of your ranting that you even hide your name.  I
guess this is just SPAM that made it thru the list filters.
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp refocus alternative

2014-03-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Marco Ciampa ciam...@libero.it [03-12-14 12:00]:
 Is there a GIMP refocus
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/refocus-it/
 
 alternative more up to date (i.e. GIMP 2.8.10 compatible)?

http://sourceforge.net/projects/refocus/

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Re: [Gimp-user] matting or anti-aliasing of shapes

2014-02-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Win Brayer winbra...@cox.net [02-04-14 20:39]:
 How do I stop receiving these emails.  I thought I had put a stop to them.
 
 
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 On Feb 4, 2014, at 5:28 PM, bktheman34 wrote:
 
  Yes it can be done in GIMP.
  
  Open your image in GIMP. Choose a new background colour which is as close 
  to the
  background your image is going to be displayed over. In GIMP click Filters 
   Web
  Semi flatten. Repeat for each layer of your animation. Now save your GIF. 
  Now
  see how it looks when displayed over the background.
  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Can't Find feather_paste.py Script File

2014-01-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Partha Bagchi parth...@gmail.com [01-18-14 16:15]:
 Hi Joe,
 
 Even now, it's a new thread.
 
 You started with one thread (which forget now), then you used Why so
 complicated to respond to my questions, and then you used Can't Find
 feather_paste.py plugin and now you are using Can't Find
 feather_paste.py Script file.
 
 Thus it's difficult to keep all the suggestions to you together.
 
 Any way, all the trouble is because you cannot find the menu item on your
 system and everyone is trying to help you.
 
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  On 18.01.2014 20:28, SirCrow wrote:
 
   Just copy the file again from this URL,  from the first to last line:
  
   https://raw2.github.com/jsbueno/gimp-plugins/master/feather_paste.py
 
  Firefox gets the extension right when I just download it.
 
   Joao:  I've re-copied and pasted it, but it still doesn't show up.
 
  I put it into my default user plug-ins directory, and it works.
 
 
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different message and not changing the attributes.  He is unknowing of his
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Re: [Gimp-user] Open Gimp

2013-12-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Abbrian1 for...@gimpusers.com [12-08-13 11:04]:
 I'm bran new to Gimp I have installed GIMP2.8.6 in my Mac running on
 OS10.6.8.  I cannot open it, no matter how many times I click on the
 GIMP icon in my applications folder.

open a terminal window and at the prompt typegimp 

see what messages appear on the terminal
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Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom Tablet not working with GIMP

2013-12-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Marathon7 for...@gimpusers.com [12-07-13 15:26]:
 [...] 
 I tried really hard to get my Wacom Intous4 table connected with GIMP
 2.8.10 under MAC OSX 10.9.  However it is not recognized by GIMP - (all
 other programs I used can detect the driver correctly).  Also I updated
 the Wacom driver to the newest version - without any effect.
 
 What confuses me is that it some Forums it's mentioned that XQuartz is
 necessary to run GIMP and a tablet, in some comments it's confirmed that
 it's not needed anymore...
 
 Also it's interesting, that some users can use their Wacom Intous3
 tablet with GIMP 2.8  which gives me hope that there is a trick...

Apparently a problem with the mac build or mac environment as I have no
problem at all with my Bamboo tablet with gimp 2.8.[6,8,10] on openSUSE
KDE Tumbleweed.

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Re: [Gimp-user] problem with mouse and bamboo pad

2013-12-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com [12-03-13 05:27]:
 [...]
 Well that makes 3 people, which is a pretty good sign there is actually
 something wrong somewhere.  Are you also using GIMP 2.8.8, Brendan?  Are
 you using Linux too?
 Unfortunately, we just tried again and have not been able to reproduce. 
 Can any of you reproduce the issue everytime?  Or it just happened this
 one time?  If you can reproduce, would you have any reproduction steps
 for me?

I had same prob on 2.8.2.

I can reproduce.  Open gimp, open jpg or png with tablet and mouse both
active and only tablet is functional.  Disconnect tablet and mouse is
functional.

ps: using rpm packages from distro
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Re: [Gimp-user] problem with mouse and bamboo pad

2013-12-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com [12-03-13 09:27]:
 * Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com [12-03-13 05:27]:
  [...]
  Well that makes 3 people, which is a pretty good sign there is actually
  something wrong somewhere.  Are you also using GIMP 2.8.8, Brendan?  Are
  you using Linux too?
  Unfortunately, we just tried again and have not been able to reproduce. 
  Can any of you reproduce the issue everytime?  Or it just happened this
  one time?  If you can reproduce, would you have any reproduction steps
  for me?
 
 I had same prob on 2.8.2.
 
 I can reproduce.  Open gimp, open jpg or png with tablet and mouse both
 active and only tablet is functional.  Disconnect tablet and mouse is
 functional.
 
 ps: using rpm packages from distro

UPDATE:  After restarting X with both devices connected, I no longer have
 cited problem.  Go fingure 

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[Gimp-user] problem with mouse and bamboo pad

2013-12-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan

openSUSE Tumbleweed
gimp-2.8.8-80.1.x86_64

Just about had heart failure.

Cannot select or draw or crop using my mouse.  Then realized that I had my
bamboo pad attached and found that it worked.

Will not the pad and mouse work together? or have I stumbled blindly onto
a possible bug?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.8 2.8.10?

2013-11-30 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Thomas Taylor li...@comcast.net [11-30-13 14:58]:
 When I install the 2.8.10 release of Gimp, should I delete the prior
 version (2.8.8)?

If you use yast or zypper it will happen automagically for you, the gimp
package will be updated.

 On a SUSE system could I zypper up gimp?

That is what I do.

ps:  I run Tumbleweed and presently am at gimp-2.8.6-3.2.2.x86_64, and I
do not see gimp  2.8.8 available for any version of openSUSE.  What
sources did you expect to use to upgrade gimp?

ps1:  I strongly suggest that if you are not well versed in installing and
recovering from installing source packages, you remain with packages
specifically built for your openSUSE system, and the question you posed
indicates you are not that well versed.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Framing Pictures

2013-11-15 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Reinhardt Christiansen rhi...@sympatico.ca [11-15-13 18:13]:
 I would like to add frames to some of the graphics I'm using on a
 website.  The frame I want is really just a white border of 8 or 10
 pixels on each of the four sides; the pictures will all be rectangles.
 
 I tried doing a frame like this in Gimp 2.8 (in Windows 8) earlier today
 and couldn't think of a way to do this very easily.  I thought about
 drawing a white line along the edge of each side of the rectangle but
 didn't know a good way to draw a straight line of the desired thickness
 exactly where I want it.  I thought about using the eraser to turn the
 edges white but that seemed clumsy.
 
 I'm guessing there is a much simpler way so I hope someone can tell me
 what it is.  :)

Have a look at ImageMagick.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Shift + 2 not working ?

2013-11-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Gunold Brunbauer gunoldbrunba...@online.de [11-09-13 07:33]:
 By pressing Shift + 2 should the view get resized by 50% - but nothing
 happens.
 (Win 7 - gimp 2.8.6 64 bit)

not win but shift+keypad-# works here and resize is to 50% rather
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Re: [Gimp-user] libglib-2.0-0.dll error after upgrading to 2.8.8

2013-11-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* HammerBob for...@gimpusers.com [11-09-13 11:44]:
 After I upgraded from GIMP 2.8.6 to 2.8.8 on my Windows 7 x64 computer I get
 this error message when I try to open a JPEG file as a new layer:
 
 ufraw-gimp.exe - Entry Point Not Found
 The procedure entry point g_get_home_dir_utf8 could not be located in the
 dynamic link library libglib-2.0-0.dll.
 
 A Google search turned this up:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=951588
 
 When I upgraded I used the distribution from here:
 http://www.gimpusers.com/downloads/95-gimp-2-8-8-windows
 
 How can I fix this?

There was more discussion about this for windows.  You need to search
further for windows solution.  I do not run windows and do not recall
the exact solution, something about the *location* of the dll, iirc.
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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-10-03 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* vitalif for...@gimpusers.com [10-03-13 12:41]:
 I want to say two things:
 
 1) The new behaviour is a TOTAL PIECE OF SHIT. And the authors are just MORONS
 because they argue that if you dislike it, you are an idiot, misuse gimp and
 should only use MSPAINT because of a low IQ. Just like it was with the
 single-window mode, yeah.
 
 2) But - Good news, everyone! That bevaviour really fucked me up and I got to
 the code and patched it. And the patch to DISABLE that piece of shit is very
 simple - you just need to comment out two if()'s in
 app/plug-in/gimppluginmanager-file.c (see below or get it from
 http://svn.yourcmc.ru/viewvc.py/vitalif/trunk/scripts/patch-gimp-unite-save_export.diff?view=co).
 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Olympus RAW

2013-09-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Peter Van Severen peter.van.seve...@pandora.be [09-10-13 16:24]:
 [...]
 Was just trying to open some older pictures from my Olympus.  But GIMP
 does not recognize the Olympus RAW-format, i.e.  the ORF-extension.
 How to solve ?

I am going to make some assumptions here since you were far for
forthcoming and my crystal ball is in for repairs.

for linux:
Install ufraw and gimp-ufraw as gimp does not natively read raw photo
formats.

for other platforms, I have NO idea.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Contact Sheets

2013-09-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Old_Seafarer for...@gimpusers.com [09-08-13 19:44]:
 [...] 
 I truly appreciate all the GIMP team has done but, respectfully, if it's
 going to be offered in a Windows version, please assume Windows users,
 not Linux enthusiasists, are going to be the ones using it and write
 your manuals and tutorials to that audience.

Remember, several individuals have taken it upon themselves to compile
gimp for windows/mac.  The application is not specifically built for
windows or mac, but for linux.  Why do you suppose that anyone but a
windows or mac user would write/offer manuals or tutorials *specifically*
for those platforms?  Besides, the manuals and tutorials are not aimed at
any particular platform but for the application which performs very
similarly on all platforms, at least not much different that different
versions of gimp which all act *somewhat* different.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8 Control Panels

2013-08-22 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Mike Armistead m...@mikearmistead.com [08-22-13 11:24]:
 I have downloaded several iterations of Gimp 2.8, now up to 2.8.6, and
 all I get is a blank screen with the menu bar at the top (and the Gimp
 logo in the background).  I don't see any of the toolbars or control
 panels that all tutorials show as being part of Gimp 2.8.  The only
 toolbar I can pull up is the tall narrow one under tools that just has
 the basic functions of older versions of Gimp.  Am I doing something
 wrong or is there some kind of block on my computer?  I'm using Windows
 7 64-bit OS.  I also have Adaptable Gimp 2.6.10 on my computer - could
 that be interfering with anything?  

Anything is possible, expecially in windows environment.  What exactly is
Adaptable Gimp as that name is foriegn, gimp is gimp.

First thing I would try is *completely* removing Adaptable Gimp,
including its personal configuration files.  Remove *all* of gimp also.

Then reinstall gimp and see what you get.

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to fill areas of a rotated image...?

2013-08-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* rhimbo for...@gimpusers.com [08-19-13 18:47]:
 I'm trying to rotate an image.  Actually, I figured out how to rotate
 it.  But I can't figure out how to fill in the empty triangular areas
 that represent the area between the edges of the original image and the
 horizontal and vertical edges of the canvas.  I would like to fill these
 spaces so it is not obvious that the image was rotated.  How can I do
 this?

I would crop the image, see:
  http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/restaurant-polidor-x.jpg

When I rotate, I crop to the shortest corners.  Unless you are rotating a
large degree, you loose very little image.  Your image was only rotated a
couple of degrees and looses very little.

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Re: [Gimp-user] looking for gimp equivellent

2013-08-16 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* elizabeth whitlock liz4...@sbcglobal.net [08-16-13 15:44]:
 Hi Im looking for the gimp equivellent to photoshops Viewextras. If
 there is one.  I need to open a jpg file with guides in it, but they do
 not show up when I open the file.  

don't know photoshop, but if you really mean guides or perhaps grid, you
can display either via the menu view above the image to show grid and/or
guides.  You can configure them in the preferences menu to always be on.

I personally keep guides on all the time and only enable grid display when
I find it useful rather than a distraction.

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com [08-13-13 11:26]:
 
 This single topic has nearly 300 replies by now (if not more), and there
 have certainly been dozens of other, smaller topics over time, mostly
 clustered around 2.8's launch.  It is probably safe to assume there are
 over 1,000 posts on the matter in total

Certainly possibly  1000 posts but *many* deviate widely from the subject
and *many* repeated admonitions by a very *few* users.  So counting post
has little weight.

And it *is* a *pile*  [insert suitable context here].

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jernej Simončič jernej|s-gm...@eternallybored.org [08-12-13 12:02]:
 On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:56:22 -0700, Richard Gitschlag wrote:
 
  Speaking of Excel, Excel has really weird cut-and-paste behavior compared 
  to every other app I know; the Cut command doesn't actually remove anything 
  from the document or place it on the clipboard, it just marks it with 
  marching ants (distinct from the normal click-and-drag selection) and only 
  when you hit the Paste command does it actually cut/paste.  A side effect 
  is that you can only do one paste per cut (unlike with copy/paste).
 
 Everything clipboard-related is pretty broken in Excel. The copied content
 is lost if you type something (but here's something funny: if you copy,
 then paste, then type something, the copied content is lost; however, if
 you then undo twice - undoing both the typing and the pasting, you can then
 paste again).

And there is a particular reason why we are *really* interested in
*anything* to do with excel?  It does help learning and using gimp?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Clearing the clipboard?

2013-08-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* pfaoro for...@gimpusers.com [08-11-13 20:01]:
 Is it possible to clear the clipboard without shutting down entirely?  How?
 
 I tend to multi-task to excess and this is causing me to mess up more than
 usual... which is a lot anyway :-)

What clipboard?
What platform?
What version of which?
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Re: [Gimp-user] suggestion for Gimp

2013-08-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* maderios mader...@gmail.com [08-10-13 08:58]:
 On 08/10/2013 02:36 PM, Jernej Simončič wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 12:11:55 +0200, maderios wrote:
 
 I think that both versions would not be very different, thus coding and
 maintenance would be small.
 
 Well, if it's that simple, why don't you do it?
 
 Good question but I'm not developer...

Then you will need to purchase a good paddle as you are caught in the
stream!

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-08-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Yottskry for...@gimpusers.com [08-07-13 15:12]:
 [...]
 The best thing that can happen to GIMP now is that the current developers all
 experience some sort of programming-related long term memory loss and the
 project can be taken over by people who care about what users think.

Or that users such as yourself pay someone to develop and provide software
more to their *particular* liking and leave gimp and the gimp mail lists!
After all, the money you pay for gimp definitely does not support your
wishes.

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Re: [Gimp-user] still boring export - save as - discussion

2013-07-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Uniklaps uni.kl...@t-online.de [07-29-13 04:33]:
 the boring discussion resurrect again and again, it's ridiculous. I sent
 two contributions to the save-firestorms before
 
 but it seems that no one to whom it concerns read it and thought only one
 second about the developer's why. 
 
Many inward looking individuals with their view obscured by the matter
within their colon.
 
 Why do all the trolls still use this unprofessional and inefficient GIMP ?
 Why they don't switch to ADOBE 
 
 for instance? Oh, I know: You can't ask ADOBE for help without paying for an
 expensive contract.
 
 So be happy with GIMP and if not stimulate your brain to learn new
 keystrokes to use GIMP 2.8. 
 
  
 
 The only constructive mail came from Johan 
 
 (Ctrl-E and Shift-Ctrl-E open the same export dialog, which is a waste)

Just noticed that there is a new, at least to me, menu option under 
File, Overwrite original-file-name, which effectively accomplishes
the action desired by those unable to adjust.  Perhaps an attempt has been
made to lower the noise ratio here.

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Re: [Gimp-user] still boring export - save as - discussion

2013-07-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com [07-29-13 07:16]:
 On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 
  Just noticed that there is a new, at least to me, menu option under
  File, Overwrite original-file-name, which effectively accomplishes
  the action desired by those unable to adjust.  Perhaps an attempt has been
  made to lower the noise ratio here.
 
 It's been available since the very beginning, Patrick.
 
 Your observation makes me wonder how many people actually understand
 what they discuss.

Guess I just never took time or had need of it.  I have no problem with
the new way, it's just different.  I had to adjust the file-name before
to *not* overwrite and seldom worked on jpeg files.  Jpeg files are to me
something to show or display on my web site, I mostly shoot raw and
convert.  

What bothered me the most of 2.8 was the change in Shrink Wrap and Fit
Image in Window.  But this is an effect of old finger are hard to retrain
:^).

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Re: [Gimp-user] SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution

2013-07-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ofnuts ofn...@laposte.net [07-28-13 20:32]:
 On 07/29/2013 01:55 AM, Dirk wrote:
 
 Needless to say I /still/ clicked on Save as... or Save.
 
 
 You *click*? Never learned Ctrl-S or Ctrl-E? (and you can probably redefine
 the Ctrl-S shortcut to be 'file-export')

Undoubtedly a windoz uzer.  Some of us learned to use a computer before
there were mize or whatever...

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-07-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Joseph A. Nagy, Jr jnagyjr1...@gmail.com [07-19-13 18:39]:
 [...]
 No, this is not an improvement. More developer snobbery, thinking they
 know more than the average user.  Disgusting.  Unfortunately GIMP is
 still the best tool for working with images, despite the developers
 attempts otherwise.

You have chosen to utilize the labor provided by those whom you now
criticize and berate.  If you are now so dis-satisfied with the product of
their labors, why do you continue to use it and subject the rest of the
silent, contented majority with your abuse?  

Use something else and go away!

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-07-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com [07-19-13 20:02]:
 On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 
  No, this is not an improvement. More developer snobbery, thinking they
  know more than the average user.  Disgusting.  Unfortunately GIMP is
  still the best tool for working with images, despite the developers
  attempts otherwise.
 
  You have chosen to utilize the labor provided by those whom you now
  criticize and berate.  If you are now so dis-satisfied with the product of
  their labors, why do you continue to use it and subject the rest of the
  silent, contented majority with your abuse?
 
  Use something else and go away!
 
 Um, could we please not shout people down?

Um, no where in my post do you see SHOUTING  :^)

I still would prefer he:
go away
disappear
loose internet access
become interested in something else
..
any or all of the above.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.6 Windows - Queries new Plug-ins at every startup

2013-06-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jesse Pavel jpa...@alum.mit.edu [06-26-13 02:22]:
 Gimp 2.8.6 (on Windows) queries new plugins at every startup; 2.8.4 did not.
 It seems pluginrc in the .gimp-2.8 user directory is written properly, and
 when run with --verbose, gimp reports that it is parsing the file, but
 immediately queries all the plugins anyhow.
 [...]

To my aged and somewhat failing recoginition, gimp has *always*
loaded/queried it's plugins and extensions when starting, irrespective of
platform.  If 2.8.4 did not, it probably was a failing/bug.  I am still on
2.8.2 and it also does the check/load at start.

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Re: [Gimp-user] HS_Sortie de G'Mic 1.5.6.0 pour Gimp

2013-06-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* maderios mader...@gmail.com [06-07-13 14:45]:
 Bonjour
 Cocorico  Le développeur principal est français
 http://gmic.sourceforge.net/
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmic/
 download
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmic/files/?source=navbar

*You* have posted here before and *know* this is an *English* language
list.  Your other posts were confrontational at the least, are you merely
a trol?

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Re: [Gimp-user] HS_Sortie de G'Mic 1.5.6.0 pour Gimp

2013-06-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com [06-07-13 15:33]:
 On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 
  Cocorico  Le développeur principal est français
  http://gmic.sourceforge.net/
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmic/
  download
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/gmic/files/?source=navbar
 
  *You* have posted here before and *know* this is an *English* language
  list.
 
 Pas de problème! :)
 
  Your other posts were confrontational at the least, are you merely
  a trol?
 
 Give him a break. He's trying to be helpful.

Ok, break extended.  His helpfulness is not apparent to me!
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?

2013-05-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com [05-12-13 15:48]:
 Thanks all for your replies ON THIS (as far as I know) NEW THREAD (
 Michael, I am a subscriber).
 
 It sounds like building 2.8 on Debian Squeeze is a (too) shaky
 proposition... as I do use it with some regularity, I should probably wait
 until the Debian packager  programmers resolve some of the dependency
 issues... (?) But I will persist, somehow/way...
 
 I should have mentioned earlier, that my only desire is to have a
 stable/workable version of GIMP... I hesitate to uninstall 2.6.1 because of
 POSSIBLE issues regarding removals that might damage my system... namely
 'gnome-office,'  I am just totally in the dark regarding what that piece of
 software is... but it sounds like something to do w/ the gui of the
 desktop... (advise appreciated here too).
 
 Henry
 
 On 05/12/2013 03:14 PM, Dominik Tabisz wrote:
 Hi
 Some time ago i tried both compiling Gimp 2.8 on Squeeze, and
 installing Debian Testing ... to see what's wrong with my attempt to
 compile Gimp 2.8.
 
 To make long thing short - problems with compilation are caused by
 dependencies of Gimp 2.8 dependencies. At some moment You end up with
 upgrading gcc and half other system libraries. If only You can install
 wheezy it should solve most of Your troubles.
 
 There is one possible workaround: one user of this mailing list
 approached similar problem on FreeBSD. Solution was building Gimp and
 all it's dependencies in jail.
 This way system was stable and Gimp 2.8 had all needed dependencies inside 
 jail.
 Unfortunately i can't remember where this instruction was and whether
 it can be ported to Debian.
 
 Dominik
 
 2013/5/12, Chris Mohlercr33...@gmail.com:
 On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Petershwpet...@jamadots.com
 wrote:
 Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge  or experience
 building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is
 2.6.1.
 
 Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall
 the
 old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get
 the
 (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually
 do
 this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)?
 I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system.
 
 There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to
 find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my
 system anyway).
 
 There's this:
 http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux
 
 I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix
 everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or
 /usr/local/.
 
 'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll
 need.  The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or
 wherever.
 
 It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably
 forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile
 and install 2.8 without removing 2.6.  There are quite a dew deps to
 work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and
 you should be fine.
 
 HTH,
 Chris
 
 
 
 On 05/12/2013 02:44 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
 Please don't hijack threads - your mail will appear two levels deep in
 the thread about changing the PDF file associations for some users.
 
 If you want to start a new topic, please compose a new message to the
 gimp-user-list@gnome.org list mail address (and make sure that you're
 subscribed).
 
 
 -- 
 Thanks,
 Michael
 

But you have not started a *new* thread but merely changed the subject and
at that not for this post but several previous to this.

You are still hijacking the PDF thread

see: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/HijackedThread.jpg

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Re: [Gimp-user] Folder display

2013-05-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Burnie West w...@ieee.org [05-11-13 16:06]:
 On 05/10/2013 09:31 AM, Liam R E Quin wrote:
 Linux is a registered trademark of Linux Torvalds
 um-m -- Linus Torvalds ?

Ah, a windos uzer.  Try google and linux
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2 - EPS Support

2013-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* jbgrobler for...@gimpusers.com [05-08-13 11:19]:
 GIMP 2.8.2 and later no longer use the GS_PROG variable to detect and load
 GhostScript. It uses a DLL instead.
 
 If you have a 64 bit operating system, 64 bit version of GIMP 2.8.2 or higher,
 and GhostScript 64 bit then try this:
 
 1) Back up the libgs-8.dll file in the GIMP bin folder.
 2) Copy the gsdll64.dll file from the GhostScript bin folder to the GIMP 
 folder.
 3) Rename the copied gsdll64.dll file to libgs-8.dll.
 4) Restart GIMP.

That's odd.  I don't have a .dll file within my entire system.  Your
report is inaccurate and mis-stated.  

Please correct it.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8.2 - EPS Support

2013-05-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* jbgrobler for...@gimpusers.com [05-08-13 18:48]:
 * jbgrobler for...@gimpusers.com [05-08-13 11:19]:
 That's odd.  I don't have a .dll file within my entire system.  Your
 report is inaccurate and mis-stated.  
 
 Please correct it.
 
 The original poster clearly stated the issue is with Windows 64 bit.

As I said, your report is *mis-stated*!
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp colors

2013-05-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Helen etter...@gmail.com [05-07-13 11:00]:
 I've been trying for days to print a small 4x6  picture that I drew in
 gimp.
 
 I've even spent quite a bit of $ putting new print cartridges in my
 printer, even
 though they were not empty.  Just trying to cover everything I can think of.
 
 The picture just comes out pink.  There should be no pink in this picture.
 I have lots of trashed pages printed with Gimp, one with LibreOffice tex,
 one with LibreOffice Draw.  There are also thin vertical white lines on the
 print.   It looks fine if Print Preview.  All settings on both file and
 printer
 are set to Best.   RGB color.
 
 Using Linux, Suse 12, gimp 2.6.11,  printer Epson Stylus 1400.  Thanks
 for any ideas.

openSUSE 12.???

Can you give access to the photo or email it to me?

openSUSE Tumbleweed which is 12.3+

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Re: [Gimp-user] Change the default Save extension

2013-04-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Sam Gleske sam.mxra...@gmail.com [04-25-13 15:01]:
 [...]
 Being misinformed does *not* qualify as trolling.   The way Owen came out
 of the gate swinging is what I would consider trolling (stirring up a
 fuss).  I wasn't even involved in the discussion until now and I got pissed
 when I read his comments.  I think the list can do better than that.  I
 don't want our list to end up like the Linux kernel ML where if strict
 rules aren't followed newcomers are harassed to no end.  It's very counter
 productive and a lot of times why I categorically leave communities.
 You'll find it is much harder to expand your developer base if you act
 immature like that.  Have some patience.

Immaturity you manifest by posting html for no *good* reason?  Getting
pissed?

Grow up!
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-06 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Michael Schumacher schum...@gmx.de [04-06-13 05:13]:
 On 06.04.2013 05:29, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com [04-05-13 21:46]:
 From: dan...@yacg.com
 To: uni.kl...@t-online.de
 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:12:35 -0400
 CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines
 
 The email was, unfortunately, too large for the list due to the numerous
 attached images.
 
 *headdesk*  Apparently, GIMP .gdyn files are more bloated than MS Word 
 documents
 
 perhaps you should try text instead of html/bloated/drivel
 
 NB: I'm considering to change the list configuration to drop the html parts
 of messages.

Would be a welcome change and if dropping the html parts is not feasible
or easily accomplished, announcing and enforcing rejection of html post
would be acceptable.

thankyou
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP print

2013-04-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* s.kortenweg s.korten...@hccnet.nl [04-05-13 04:41]:
 On 05-04-13 02:23, Steve Kinney wrote:
 On 04/04/2013 08:12 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
 http://www.irfanview.com/
 
 IMO Irfanview rocks - Microsoft's 'innovations' in image browsing 
 viewing are weak imitations of Irfanview.
 Or, from our Well Duh department, on Linux try printing from your
 desktop's native photo browser; with any luck you will be able to
 configure page size, image size and resolution there.

Or, if as the OP stated the photo prints correctly from {Open}LibreOffice,
why would the print driver by back, especially to the point of paying for
another driver.  Could just as well send me the money for what it would
accomplish.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP print

2013-04-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com [04-05-13 07:57]:
 * s.kortenweg s.korten...@hccnet.nl [04-05-13 04:41]:
  On 05-04-13 02:23, Steve Kinney wrote:
  On 04/04/2013 08:12 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
  http://www.irfanview.com/
  
  IMO Irfanview rocks - Microsoft's 'innovations' in image browsing 
  viewing are weak imitations of Irfanview.
  Or, from our Well Duh department, on Linux try printing from your
  desktop's native photo browser; with any luck you will be able to
  configure page size, image size and resolution there.
 
 Or, if as the OP stated the photo prints correctly from {Open}LibreOffice,
 why would the print driver by back, especially to the point of paying for

s/b...  print driver s/by/be s/back/bad

 another driver.  Could just as well send me the money for what it would
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Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines

2013-04-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com [04-05-13 21:46]:
  From: dan...@yacg.com
  To: uni.kl...@t-online.de
  Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:12:35 -0400
  CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
  Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] how to draw interrupted lines
  
  The email was, unfortunately, too large for the list due to the numerous
  attached images.
 
 *headdesk*  Apparently, GIMP .gdyn files are more bloated than MS Word 
 documents

perhaps you should try text instead of html/bloated/drivel
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP print

2013-04-04 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Helen etter...@gmail.com [04-04-13 11:47]:
 Printing a picture in landscape mode, with GIMP.
 
 Picture has lakes, sky, trees, rooftops, mountains, etc.
 
 In Gimp, some of the dark trees, and the dark areas of shrubbery around
 a path, have big open white blotches.  After doing everything I know to
 do in GIMP, I opened OOo, inserted the pictures into a frame, and
 printed the picture.
 The big white spots are missing, and the picture actually looks pretty
 good.  This tells me (I think) that the problem is not the printer
 (Epson Styus 1400) or the picture (I flattened it, thinking maybe
 something about the layers might cause that problem.)
 In Gimp 2.6, Suse 12,  I'm setting  Image Quality high, Color Precision
 best, Print Quality high.
 Oh, and these are not random white spots.  Each print (wasting lots of
 ink and paper here) has the big white spots in the same places -- the
 same trees, the same shrubbery, same shapes to the white blotches.
 Any ideas?

Not w/o seeing the image, but please do not post it to the list.  Provide
a place for viewing the image.

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2013-03-01 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Psiweapon psiwea...@gmail.com [03-01-13 10:46]:
 Pt didn't they sell any higher horses on the cattle fair?
 
 On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  * Psiweapon psiwea...@gmail.com [03-01-13 10:35]:
   I don't want to be very offensive, but yes, *sometimes* it smells of
   elitism in here.
 
  don't look now, but your post:
You have top posted
You have fully quoted irrelevant materal
You hve post html, email is *text*
You are trolling
 
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and you respond to private mail in an open forum!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Where to download python script/plugin in gimp 2.8?

2013-02-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* glow7 for...@gimpusers.com [02-28-13 03:35]:
 You put Python scripts in the plug-ins directory and not the scripts 
 directory. Python scripts also need to be marked as executable. The
 scripts
 directory is only for Script-Fu scripts.
 
 Just recently upgraded from Gimp 2.7 to 2.8.4 and I'm totally lost when
 it comes to Script FU and new to python.  Is the above-mentioned feature
 revised and renamed in Gimp 2.8.4?  or did they eliminated the layers
 beveled/emboss altogether?  Where do I download it FROM if it is still
 available for GIMP 2.8.4.
 

depends on your operating system and distribution, if linux.  More
information necessary

It is available on openSUSE, and probably everywhere else but location
would depend on the above.
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Re: [Gimp-user] export vs save

2013-02-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.com [02-18-13 14:03]:
 Christen Anderson wrote:
 It would be interesting to know how many list messages by Maderios are on
 this old, worn-out topic.
 The first post I have from Maderios happens to be on this topic in August,
 2012. Since then, he has made 91 posts, which on a cursory review, most, if
 not all, seem to be on this topic.

One on 30 Nov was about scanners  :^)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Getting my tablet to work with GIMP

2013-01-13 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* SleepyBear for...@gimpusers.com [01-13-13 14:04]:
 I had to reinstall my tablet drivers after something stupid happened and now
 GIMP (I have 2.6.8) won't recognise it.
 
 It doesn't show up in the Input Devices thing either. 

nor does the make and model of your tablet device
or the steps/drivers you have attempted

And functional crystal balls are quite rare and expensive.

??

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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about the new sliders

2012-12-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net [12-05-12 13:48]:
 On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 11:32 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote:
  On 12/04/12 00:28, Jeffery Small wrote:
 
   The fast moving (up-arrow) slider appears when you have your mouse in the
   top half of the slider area.  The slow moving (horizontal arrows) appear
   when you are in the lower half of the area.  It is new behavior to learn,
   but it will become second nature eventually.
  
  On freebsd, I get both arrows as described, but *both* of them do the fine-
  grained increments.  Is there a setting that controls this, or is this a
  bug?
 
 To be clear, see the enclosed image. The slider with the word Threshold
 on it is an example.
 
 Hovering the mouse pointer in the upper half, e.g. over the word
 Threshold, changes the mouse pointer to an upwards pointing arrow;
 clicking in the bar when the mouse pointer displays the upwards arrow
 will set the amount directly: clicking on the left of the top-half of
 the bar will set Threshold to 0, clicking on the right (over the 81.5 in
 this example) sets it to around the maximum of 255, clicking in the
 middle (e.g.just under the g of sample merged) sets it to about
 half, or 127. Dragging in this mode will drag the edge of the shaded bar
 directly.
 
 When the mouse pointer is in the lower half of the bar, e.g. in the
 shaded area under the word Threshold, the mouse pointer is shown with a
 cursor made of a horizontal arrow pointing both left and right. In this
 mode, dragging in the bottom half of the area will select the number
 (81.5 in the image I attached to this message) and the number will
 change as you drag.
 
 In addition, there are two small arrows to the right of the number, and
 clicking on those will increase or reduce the number shown. But those
 are not the arrows being discussed in this thread :-)

I would have expected the mouse wheel to act the same but it increments/
decrements at 1% intervals in both areas, upper/lower.


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Re: [Gimp-user] finding layers after file has been closed (.... so much for the new export/save methods)

2012-11-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com [11-18-12 16:59]:
 ...
 I am just saddened that the most of the type of work my company does with
 Gimp is no longer (maybe it never was?) included in the target user/use
 definition.  Because it does not make economic sense for a company to train
 and support users in two different graphics programs, there will eventually
 come a time (since I presume the goals of the program developers will
 continue to evolve away from our typical workflow), when we will have to
 switch to _one_ other program to do our graphics work.  That's sad because
 Gimp has so much to offer.  

 ...
 
You play a fiddle with no strings.

There is a script usable that returns to nearly the same actions which you
desire.  Perhaps you are having a problem with the words presented here.
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] 8x10 photo without cropping...

2012-11-16 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* jenn golden ellimae...@gmail.com [11-16-12 16:32]:
 Hi - I am a bit of a newbie to this prog. And the issue I am having, is
 that I created a Magazine cover using my son's football pic. To make a long
 story short - I can create a fabulous 4x6, but when I try to send it out to
 blow up to an 8x10, it crops way too much of the cover... How do I save or
 edit the pic as an 8x10 so that I do not loose my added graphics and
 artwork? Please help!  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

from 4x6 to 8x10 is different ratio and either you loose some picture or
have blank space.  4x6 expands to 8x12 or 6.67x10  An option, save your
additions to a layer and shrink the layer to the dimentions to fit the
intended size and merge the layer to 8x10

without carnival mirror type distortion, there is no easy change from 4x6
to 8x10.


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Re: [Gimp-user] RAW

2012-11-16 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* gbudavid for...@gimpusers.com [11-16-12 19:59]:
 I have Windows 7 and have tried to download ufraw to gimp 2.8  I am given an
 error message. is there a workaround that is simple like myself or another
 plug-in?

Perhaps, but the error message you see is not on my screen or we have some
kind of communication probs, esp ??

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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-use r] double exposure

2012-11-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* vlasta...@gmail.com vlasta...@gmail.com [11-07-12 16:30]:
 Hi folks. I've been trying to leave the group. Nothing to do with Gimp(
 very nice app in my opinion), so I would really appreciate it if you all
 could help me out with this?  Thanks for all the tips and tricks it's
 been a blast.  Make sure to stop and take in whatever view your looking
 at.  You never know what you might miss.
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
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 Sender: gimp-user-list-bounces@gnome.orgDate: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 21:31:18 
 To: yahvuuyah...@gmail.com
 Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
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post here.

And please program your blueberry wireless to wrap lines

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Re: [Gimp-user] background question

2012-10-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Michael Natterer mi...@gimp.org [10-25-12 08:36]:
 On Thu, 2012-10-25 at 13:10 +0200, Chrispy wrote:
  I am trying to remove the background of an image I have scanned of a
  Newspaper.  The paper was thin and the back side of the paper is
  visible on the image.  Is there an easy way to remove this?
  
  The reverse image is also visible over the main image I am looking at
  (the image is a News Headline, not a Picture.
  
  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
 If you can, scan again, and put *black* paper on top of the other side
 while scanning.

That *and* pick a black point when scanning.  It will make the text that
does bleed thru appear much lighter.

Then play with the contrast of the product.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Wacom Tablet not working with GIMP

2012-09-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* torreyproctor for...@gimpusers.com [09-17-12 08:48]:
 Is their a way to get the pressure sensitivity of my Wacom Bamboo
 Capture tablet working with GIMP.  

It works with mine on openSUSE 12.2+Tumbleweed.  Just had to plug it in.

 Is tablets pressure sensitivity still unavailable to GIMP 2.8.2 Mac OS
 X?

Don't know about mac

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Re: [Gimp-user] Save Export Complaints

2012-09-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* maderios mader...@gmail.com [09-12-12 10:36]:
 
 Do you really use it ? Ergonomically speaking, Gimp is now an xcf editor.

s/is now/has always been/

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Re: [Gimp-user] About bad new save export function in Gimp-2.8

2012-09-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* maderios mader...@gmail.com [09-11-12 06:15]:
 ... 
 It's really very simple:
 
 Photoshop / Saving images
 Save a file
 Use the Save command to save changes to the current file or the Save As
 command to save changes to a different file.
 http://help.adobe.com/en_US/photoshop/cs/using/WSfd1234e1c4b69f30ea53e41001031ab64-7783a.html
 
 Set file saving preferences
 http://help.adobe.com/en_US/photoshop/cs/using/WSfd1234e1c4b69f30ea53e41001031ab64-7783a.html#WSfd1234e1c4b69f30ea53e41001031ab64-7720a

You are absolutely correct.  It is even more simple than you espouse:
*You* are free to use fotoshot and pay the piper.  And you will never
notice another problem with gimp, and we will not have to continually
delete your posts.

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-08-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Anoko for...@gimpusers.com [08-07-12 05:25]:
 2012/8/6 Anoko for...@gimpusers.com:
 
  I've seen the new you have to use export messagebox about 20 times
  now, very annoying ;-).  Why is it not OK to allow saving to e.g. 
  png (especially when not using layers!), but keep the export function
  ALSO as it is?  That way, everyone will be happy I think?
 
 Is it soo difficult to change one's habits a little, and to
 learn simple shortcuts? Ctrl-E or Shift-Ctrl-E to export the image to
 any format you wish, Ctrl-W Alt-W to close the image without saving
 it. Seeing a warning message 20 times was clearly enough for teaching
 me that I should use Ctrl-E instead of Ctrl-S.
 
 Well habbits or not, I still wonder why it is explicitly disallowed to
 save as something other than xcf.  As I said, allowing that+keeping the
 export option makes all users happy.  Now, a way that apparently some
 part of the users like and some don't is forced to all, while it is not
 necessary to force it.
 

You are hung up* on a single word, save vs export.   Change your key
bindings to match what *you* want.

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Re: [Gimp-user] JPEG Quality Slider

2012-07-27 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* TravelNotes.co cont...@travelnotes.co [07-27-12 07:51]:
 I am a rookie user...with all photo editing software; when saving JPEG images,
 is lowering the Quality sliding scale the same as lowering the compression
 setting? 

the opposite.  Lowering quality = raising compression


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Re: [Gimp-user] Thank you developers, for your patience.

2012-07-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Johannes anonfo...@gmx.org [01-01-70 12:34]:
 
 
 I can live with the new process, too. The only thing I am missing is to
 do the Exit (close without saving) step directly (after having
 overwritten the original BMP/JPEG/PNG/whatever).
 
 At the moment, Exit (close without saving) is a two-step step: Close
 - Close without saving
 
 Or is there a shortcut I am not aware of?
 
 altf4
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Re: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;)

2012-05-10 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com [05-10-12 11:44]:
 
 (Damn it, why doesn't this mailing list have a proper reply-to address?)

It does.  Why cannot you trim your posts?
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Re: [Gimp-user] LOVE thread - single window mode

2012-05-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Greg Chapman gregtu...@yahoo.co.uk [05-07-12 07:11]:
 On 05 May 12 22:26 Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com said:
  This may be a function of your windowmanager, which you failed to 
  mention. KDE has the ability to designate specific windows to 
  maintain size and position in addition to which desktop.
 
 Yes, even Windows allows you to set shortcut to launch a program 
 maximised.
 
 Right-click the Start Menu icon. Select Properties and under the 
 Shortcut tab on the Properties dialogue that opens, you'll find an 
 option to run Normal Window/Minimised/Maximised.

I believe this was commented that the option maximised the splash
screen/window rather than the program window  But then that's windoz
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Re: [Gimp-user] LOVE thread - single window mode

2012-05-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com [05-05-12 15:52]:
 
 Now if GIMP would just remember that I want to run it maximized
 

This may be a function of your windowmanager, which you failed to mention. 
KDE has the ability to designate specific windows to maintain size and
position in addition to which desktop.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Why does saves as JPG default to quality 85?

2012-03-23 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ofnuts ofn...@laposte.net [01-01-70 12:34]:
 On 03/23/2012 09:20 PM, Liam R E Quin wrote:
 every time you load and
 save a JPEG file the quality is reduced and information is lost.
 Not true... if nothing changes the algorithm is stable (decoded values get
 re-encoded to the same values). You lose quality if you recompute something
 different; changed settings, changed pixel values, changed 8x8 boundaries
 (image crop).

Well, it is true and very easily proven.

Open a jpg file and save it.  Then open the just saved file and save it
again at the save compression level.  Then do a diff or simply check the
file sizes.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Benchmarking Gimp/GEGL

2012-03-20 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Mortimer m...@aaa.co.uk [03-20-12 07:55]:
 
 Although I'm just a newbie, your question intrigued me.
 
 Looking at the image you referred to, Firefox tells me that it is
 7,360px × 4,912px (scaled to 864px × 577px).  If what I have been told
 is correct, that 1 pixel = 1 byte ( or thereabouts), that is a 36mb
 file, which to my mind is enormous.
 
 Are my sums right?
 
 If so, what do others think?
 

He is probably processing a file from one of the new Nikons, D4/D800.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Felicitations...

2012-03-19 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Chris Mohler cr33...@gmail.com [03-19-12 12:51]:
 
 Alas, no wheel on my wacom pen/tablet ;)
 

:^)   I have a wheel-mouse, tackball w/wheel, and my bamboo tablet all
configured.

btw, I would be interested in your wacom tablet button settings.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Saving file as a PDF?

2012-02-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* lckrkrzypatch for...@gimpusers.com [02-18-12 22:05]:
 Is it possible to save files as PDF like photoshop?

should not be too difficult to access the File menu and select Save As
and see what formats are available.

But I cannot answer about like photoshop, have never used it and do not
own an operating system which will support it.  I would rather spend the
$600 for glass for my cameras.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.7, - 2 simple questions

2012-02-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Kekko for...@gimpusers.com [02-08-12 01:57]:
 * Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com [02-07-12 15:05]:
  * Kekko for...@gimpusers.com [02-07-12 14:33]:
   I 'd like to do another little question. I have a Ubuntu PC in Italian
   language but I'd prefer to work in English GIMP.  I saw I can launch
   GIMP from terminal typing LANG=en gimp but is there a way to have the
   same result launching it from the Icon?
  
 
  
  attach icon to filestinfo/gimp-user-list
 
 Thanks, how can I attach the icon to the file?

I really don't know *buntu* but in openSUSE:
  right-click on script icon and then on the pop-up icon allows
  assinging a different icon.

Did you read Alexandre's post?  He suggests just setting your lang pref in
gimp's preferences and not jumping thru the other hoops.
  
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.7, - 2 simple questions

2012-02-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Kekko for...@gimpusers.com [02-07-12 14:33]:
 I 'd like to do another little question. I have a Ubuntu PC in Italian
 language but I'd prefer to work in English GIMP.  I saw I can launch
 GIMP from terminal typing LANG=en gimp but is there a way to have the
 same result launching it from the Icon?

make a text file:

  #!/usr/sh
  LANG=en /usr/bin/gimp


save file
make file executable
  chmod u+x file-name

attach icon to file

clicking on the icon will start gimp with LANG=en

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.7, - 2 simple questions

2012-02-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com [02-07-12 15:05]:
 * Kekko for...@gimpusers.com [02-07-12 14:33]:
  I 'd like to do another little question. I have a Ubuntu PC in Italian
  language but I'd prefer to work in English GIMP.  I saw I can launch
  GIMP from terminal typing LANG=en gimp but is there a way to have the
  same result launching it from the Icon?
 
 make a text file:
 
   #!/usr/sh
   LANG=en /usr/bin/gimp
 

sorry, that s/b
   #!/usr/bin/sh
   LANG=en /usr/bin/gimp
   
 
 save file
 make file executable
   chmod u+x file-name
 
 attach icon to file
 
 clicking on the icon will start gimp with LANG=en
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Seeking better green screen method

2012-01-17 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Willie B Bass williambray...@gmail.com [01-17-12 16:08]:
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Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop vs Gimp for mobile dev?

2011-12-31 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com [12-31-11 12:17]:
 
 I used to work with Photoshop every day for 10 years, and I think that
 people who truly have a preference merely like the interface better
 because they're used to it. I haven't been in graphics for a while
 now, and I find Gimp every bit as good as the old(er) Photoshop I used
 to use, especially for print or web pages. Of course, the last versions I
 ever even opened was CS or CS2 of pshop. It does seem support for
 RAW in Gimp is rather problematic.
 

I don't understand this statement, last sentence.  RAW support for/in gimp
is provided by the same decoder most of the commercial apps utilize,
dcraw.  And is updated much more frequently and w/o cost compared to the
commercial apps.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop vs Gimp for mobile dev?

2011-12-31 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com [12-31-11 14:11]:
 On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 
  I don't understand this statement, last sentence.  RAW support for/in gimp
  is provided by the same decoder most of the commercial apps utilize,
  dcraw.  And is updated much more frequently and w/o cost compared to the
  commercial apps.
 
 Only if you mean DCRaw. Because UFRaw development pretty much
 stagnated. Two releases in last two years. Compare that to ACR.

:^)

quote  from above
  is provided by the same decoder most of the commercial apps utilize,
  dcraw.  And is updated much more frequently and w/o cost compared to
/quote


and I cannot compare to ACR, will not pay license fees.  Rather buy glass
for my D3  :^).
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Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop vs Gimp for mobile dev?

2011-12-31 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ronald F. Guilmette r...@tristatelogic.com [12-31-11 16:42]:
 I've been planning on buying a Lumix DMC-FZ150 next year, when the prices
 come down some more.  

...
 
 I'd just like to ask if there is going to be any problem in reading those
 into Gimp and/or getting them converted into something like standard tiff
 files, preferably on Linux/FreeBSD, rather than say, Windoze.  


I would guess that when it doubt, the best course of action would be to
check.

http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/

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Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop vs Gimp for mobile dev?

2011-12-31 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com [12-31-11 16:54]:
 * Ronald F. Guilmette r...@tristatelogic.com [12-31-11 16:42]:
  I've been planning on buying a Lumix DMC-FZ150 next year, when the prices
  come down some more.  
 
 ...
  
  I'd just like to ask if there is going to be any problem in reading those
  into Gimp and/or getting them converted into something like standard tiff
  files, preferably on Linux/FreeBSD, rather than say, Windoze.  
 
 
 I would guess that when it doubt, the best course of action would be to
 check.
 
 http://www.cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/

Guess I should do the entire job  :^)

http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/Cameras.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop vs Gimp for mobile dev?

2011-12-31 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ronald F. Guilmette r...@tristatelogic.com [12-31-11 17:39]:
 So this explains why I asked about gimp support for .RW2 files, even though
 I did in fact already see the pages you helpfully pointed me to.  I'd like
 to know if Gimp supports .RW2 files, or if it only barely supports them
 (perhaps even, God forbid, in a pathetic way).

Surely you can find and download a native raw, .rw2, file from your chosen
camera and try it  :^)

ps:  I did before getting my d70, then d200, d3.  Too big a step for
unknowns

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Re: [Gimp-user] OT: Was: Gimp name-picking

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* s...@tryding.se s...@tryding.se [12-29-11 07:05]:
  htmlhead
 
  link media=all type=text/css
  href=/webmail/static/deg/css/wysiwyg-3933289048.css rel=stylesheet
  /headbody
  I didn't have time to read this whole thread, so pardon me if it's already
  beenbrpointed out that the idea of changing the name of GIMP has come up
  more thanbronce in the past.brbrMy vote:nbsp; leave it alone.nbsp;
  The recognition it has gained over the years is invaluable.brGo to
  google and type in photoshop.nbsp; GIMP is listed fifth.nbsp; You can't
  beat that.brbrPeace,brTombrbrDec 28, 2011 05:36:16 PM,
  ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:brblockquote style=border-left: 3px solid
  rgb(102, 153, 204);
 
 
 
 
 
  div class=moz-text-plain wrap=true style=font-family:
  -moz-fixed; font-size: 14px; lang=x-western
pre wrap=On 12/28/2011 02:14 PM, Stefan Maerz wrote:span
  class=moz-txt-citetags
 
  gt;/span
  span class=moz-txt-citetagsgt; /spanPIMP - The Photoshop-like Image
  Manipulation Program
  /pre
pre wrap=That one gets my vote, but only if the acronym can
  stand for
  Primary Image Manipulation Program.  After all, the title should
  be as accurately descriptive as possible.
 
  IMO the idea that GIMP is somehow chasing after or trying to be
  an Adobe product is very dangerous, and it comes straight from
  Adobe's marketing department.  I happen to LIKE the difference, and
  by like I mean, the differences have a positive impact on my
  productivity.
 
  Does Gnome try to be the latest Microsoft or MAC desktop
  interface?  Does VLC try to be Windows Media Player, or Amarok
  aspire to be iTunes?  Do the users of these tools feel compelled
  to name a commercial package that does roughly the same things every
  time they mention the tool they DO use?
 
  :o)
 
  Steve
 
 
 
 
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My +1 also,

and above is just another reason *not* to use html on an email list,
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Re: [Gimp-user] OT: Was: Gimp name-picking

2011-12-29 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Xiella Harksell xie...@gmail.com [12-29-11 17:26]:
 
 I am a bit of a lurker, but over the last few change-the-name
 discussions have been almost exasperated enough to make a post :).
 Just wondering, is it possible to prevent the discussion arising
 again? Hard link the archives of the various discussions that have
 arisen over the years?  Make a highly visible FAQ?  Or is it something
 the list will just field ad infinitum?

A script dumping all those threads in their entirety to the *offending*
poster would be appropriate and maybe a deterrent (perhaps detergent would
fit better :^).

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need help repairing image

2011-12-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com [12-26-11 06:03]:
 The GNU Image Manipulation Program will only be able to repair its
 image by changing its name.

Somehow you completely missed the Subject:.  You are welcome to try
again!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Need help repairing image

2011-12-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com [12-26-11 13:03]:
 On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 17:38, Patrick Shanahan ptilopt...@gmail.com wrote:
  * Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com [12-26-11 06:03]:
  The GNU Image Manipulation Program will only be able to repair its
  image by changing its name.
 
  Somehow you completely missed the Subject:.  You are welcome to try
  again!
 
 I deliberately misinterpreted the subject. Just a stab at a horrible
 name for an otherwise terrific application.

I'm sure you are a terrific person, also, but the name in no worse in it's
stead than Dotan.

Or, for that matter, Patrick/paka
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