Re: [Gimp-user] Topic Change: GEGL abstraction Was:GIMP app?

2013-06-05 Thread Sam Gleske
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine 
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't understand why you are trying to insist on UI change as one of
 GEGL points.

 Yes, one could create an entirely new image editor based on GEGL. In
 fact, there's at least one such project. But that is simply not the
 reason we use GEGL in GIMP. I don't know how else to explain that.


I'm not insisting on changing anything in GIMP.  Reread what I said.  My
question was not adequately answered so I continued discussion.

I merely asked if one of the reasons for the creation of GEGL was to
abstract graphical manipulation functions out of the GUI into a library.
If that was the case would creating a different GUI on top of it feasible
for getting similar quality of image manipulation?

Your latest response answers my question.

SAM
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Re: [Gimp-user] Topic Change: GEGL abstraction Was:GIMP app?

2013-06-05 Thread Simon Budig
Sam Gleske (sam.mxra...@gmail.com) wrote:
 I merely asked if one of the reasons for the creation of GEGL was to
 abstract graphical manipulation functions out of the GUI into a library.

Well, we already had an abstraction layer between the image manipulation
core and the GUI, so that question is slightly off: No, GEGL was not
made to foster an abstraction layer between GUI and image manipulation
core.

GEGL was conceived as a replacement for the old core.

 If that was the case would creating a different GUI on top of it feasible
 for getting similar quality of image manipulation?

Absolutely.

I hope this helps,
Simon

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[Gimp-user] Topic Change: GEGL abstraction Was:GIMP app?

2013-06-04 Thread Sam Gleske
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Michael Natterer mi...@gimp.org wrote:

 Apple sucks and doesn't allow GPL in the App store.


Apple will unofficially allow it but as soon as much as a single
contributor toots the GNU horn about distribution restrictions and license
conflict they'll immediately pull it from the app store (see VLC app pulled
from app store).

GIMP is 90% GUI code and porting that would be a complete rewrite.


Isn't the purpose of GEGL integration attempting to pull as much of the
graphical functions out of GIMP as possible so that GUI could be switched
but the underlying library has the same quality of image manipulation?

If that's not the case what is the point of GEGL?

SAM
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Re: [Gimp-user] Topic Change: GEGL abstraction Was:GIMP app?

2013-06-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Sam Gleske wrote:

 Right, it has features.  Being that it's a library is it not to provide
 some abstraction and help simplify the implementation?  As it is in a
 library, writing another GUI on top of it would be possible and
 considerably easier than previous iterations of GIMP.  The user interaction
 would change but not the features provided.

Sam,

I don't understand why you are trying to insist on UI change as one of
GEGL points.

Yes, one could create an entirely new image editor based on GEGL. In
fact, there's at least one such project. But that is simply not the
reason we use GEGL in GIMP. I don't know how else to explain that.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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