Re: [gmx-users] Selecting Nodes While Running Parallel Mdrun

2006-04-25 Thread Florian Haberl
hi,
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 07:44, Shankar Prasad Kanaujia wrote:
 Dear Gromacs Users,
 I am installing parallel version of gromacs on linux cluster, but I do not
 want to use all the nodes for my simulation. Is there any way to select
 some specific nodes for simulation ?

 Will I have to specify the nodes while installing or I would be able to
 select the nodes after installation according to my requirement ?

 What are the necessary files to be edited for the same ?

You have to install a batch processing and resource management system, there 
are several around like openpbs (http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/openpbs/), maui 
and torque ... also there s a solution from sun/ sgi 

afaik the only free solution is openpbs and it will work for small 
installations without high requirements.

if you want to run it parallel you have to install mpich and lam.
Also a shared filesystem for all this nodes would be nice (easiest nfs also 
afs or any other shared filesystem like clusterfs).

 Thanks,
 Shankar Prasad Kanaujia
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Re: [gmx-users] LINCS deviation

2006-04-25 Thread Florian Haberl
hi,

On Monday 24 April 2006 21:12, Ashutosh Jogalekar wrote:
 Hello
 I am simulating a regular seven residue peptide: HHQALVFFA, in the
 form of a beta sheet with five strands.
 The EM went ok. The structure looks ok. But I am still getting the
 error about the LINCS constraint deviation during the posit. restr. MD.
 Could someone suggest what I could do to get rid of the problem?
 dt= 0.002
 nsteps= 1
 constraints= all-bonds
 tau_p= 1.0
have you solved your system, when yes try a position restraining of water:

define  =  -DPOSRES_WATER

or of your backbone


 Thanks
 Ashutosh Jogalekar
 Emory University

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Re: [gmx-users] Gromacs 3.3.1 MPI/Itanium 2 fails to build

2006-04-25 Thread Erik Lindahl

Hi Matt,

For reference, please try:

gcc, without mpi
icc, without mpi

If those two also fail, go to src/gmxlib/nonbonded/ 
nb_kernel_ia64_single and issue make nb_kernel010_ia64_single.lo to  
see what happens.


My first guess would be that the mpicc wrapper scripts are broken and  
don't handle assembly files correctly. In that case you might have to  
link in the MPI libraries manually - check the FAQ.


Cheers,

Erik

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Yes, I did make distclean before configuring with MPI enabled.

Matt Ernst
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Hello,

I have successfully built Gromacs 3.3.1 under Linux/Itanium 2  
with the following

configure options:

./configure -with-fft=fftw3 --without-x --prefix=$HOME/gmx331

When I enable MPI, the build fails:

./configure -with-fft=fftw3 --without-x --prefix=$HOME/gmx331 -- 
enable-mpi;make





Have you made a make clean (or make distclean) before doing the  
second

configure ? If not, its the way to try first :-)

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Re: [gmx-users] Selecting Nodes While Running Parallel Mdrun

2006-04-25 Thread Erik Lindahl

Hi,

On Apr 25, 2006, at 8:47 AM, Florian Haberl wrote:


hi,
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 07:44, Shankar Prasad Kanaujia wrote:

Dear Gromacs Users,
I am installing parallel version of gromacs on linux cluster, but  
I do not
want to use all the nodes for my simulation. Is there any way to  
select

some specific nodes for simulation ?

Will I have to specify the nodes while installing or I would be  
able to

select the nodes after installation according to my requirement ?

What are the necessary files to be edited for the same ?


You have to install a batch processing and resource management  
system, there
are several around like openpbs (http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/ 
openpbs/), maui

and torque ... also there s a solution from sun/ sgi

afaik the only free solution is openpbs and it will work for small
installations without high requirements.


Cluster resources provide great free tools in Maui (scheduler) and  
Torque (batch system build on OpenPBS). They are distributed with the  
(also free) Rocks linux cluster distribution, and we're using them  
quite successfully on a 600-CPU cluster in Stanford :-)


Cheers,

Erik


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Re: [gmx-users] Doubt in Distance Restraints

2006-04-25 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Raja,Yes, that's the idea. So funct (which is 2 now) is changed to 6, but you will still need to specify the equilibrium bond length and the force constant. The bond length can be chosen from the crystal structure, if no other information is available, and the force constant isn't too important if the purpose is too keep the things together. But there must be some parameters for Fe(II)-ligand bonds lying around somewhere.
Cheers,TsjerkOn 4/25/06, raja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Mr.Tsjerk,Thanks for your reply and I checked manual based on yoursuggestion. I just want to make it sure, Is it what the manualsays while adding type 6 bond that isto edit the protein.top
file under [bond] section so as to depict harmonic interactionbetween metal and ligating atoms.###[ bonds ];aiaj functc0c1c2
c3 473437242 473428392 473428722#Where 4734 is Fe(II) atom and 3724,2839,2872 are respective metalchelating atoms of protein.Is it ok ?
With thanks !B.NatarajOn Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:11:34 +0200, Tsjerk Wassenaar[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi Raja, You may be better off just adding bonds. I believe there was a bond type
 (type 6) which was especially useful (intended?) for keeping metals bound to a protein. Cheers, Tsjerk On 4/20/06, raja 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Dear all,  My intention is to restrict Fe(II) in active site by distance  restraint protocol. Fe(II) is ligated by three amino acides' polar
  atoms respectively by (1) NE2 of HIS ,(2) NE2 of HIS (3) OD1 of  ASP. The following is the disres itp file I used (copied from  manual3.3). where I edited the atom number of
  aminoacids(3724,2839,2872) and Fe(II) as 4734.  # disres.itp   #
  [ distance restraints ]  ; ai ajtypeindextype' low up1 up2 fac  37244734 1010.02.090.4 1.0  28394734 101
0.02.250.4 1.0  28724734 1010.02.180.4 1.0
   I do not understand the meaning of up2 and fac so I left with 0.4and  1.0 as such as found in manual.   In mdp file I added the following the commands 
  ## full.mdp   ##   define = -DDISRES
  disre= Simple   ###   I expected these modifictions will restrict but those distances are not
  restraintedwhy ?   Kindly explain me that wheather I need to change any other parameter .   With thanks !  B.Nataraj  
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Re: [gmx-users] Imaging in PBC simulations -summary

2006-04-25 Thread Martin LEPSIK

Dear Jochen and Tamas,
thanks for your replies. I tried both, the trjconv -fit postprocessing 
and setting comm_mode for mdrun and actually only the latter worked 
fine. In the former, protein drifts toward the box side and jumps out 
for some frames, leaving its bound ions inside the box. Better to remove 
translation during the run.


All the best,

Martin




Dear GROMACS users,

I would like to ask you maybe a trivial question: What is the best 
way to image a protein with a ligand inside

a triclinic water box?

I run an MD in GMX-3.3 with nstcomm=1, comm_grps and not set. I 
watch the movie in VMD,
loading first a starting gro and than the trr. The problem is that 
the protein creeps out of the box (the same happens

when using ngmx).

I have tried various variants of post-processing using trjconv -fit 
(translation) -pbc (inbox, whole) -center (tric),
groups for fitting: protein or system. But in any case, the result is 
the same.


Could you please advice me how to solve this? Whether it is better to 
include some parameter for

mdrun or to post-process in a different way?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely,

Martin Lepsik


You can either
use comm_grps = Protein and comm_mode = Linear
or
use trjconv with the -fit option and fit your protein on the starting 
position after finishing the simulation.


Cheers, Jochen





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[gmx-users] System equilibration and interaction energy

2006-04-25 Thread aloks
Dear Gromacs users,

I have two queries :
1. I am doing simulation for a protein (156 residues ) with a sugar. Out
of 156 protein resiudes i have restrained 130 residues and rest part  i
have kept free. My doubt is that when we can say that system has
equilibrated?

   if on the basis of rmsd then i dont feel it would be advisable to look the
rmsd of protein because major part i have restrained, if i consider  sugar
rmsd then i can see a kind of periodicity in the rmsd. if i look the rmsd
of the system then it seems to be stablized at 4.5nm.
  if i look the potential energy of the system then from the begining
itself it seems to be equilibrated with a fluctuation of ~700kj/mol. I
guess that may be because of very high contribution from the solvent.

   For nearly 26000 atoms i have done the simulation upto 4 ns. So i would
just like to know that what is the best way to define system
equilibration when a major part is restrained.


2. my second question is about caluclation of the interaction energy
betwen the protein and the ligand. one possible way seems to be calculate
all the energy pairs given by gromacs with ligand and protein (ljsr, ljlr,
lj14 and for coulombs) and sum it or do i need to do two more simulations,
one with protein alone in the same box size with same number of water
molecules and other with the ligand alone and then substracting the sum of
potential energies of independent simulations from the protein-ligand
energy?

any suggestion would be highly appreciated

thanks


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[gmx-users] System equilibration and interaction energy

2006-04-25 Thread aloks
Dear Gromacs users,

I have two queries :
1. I am doing simulation for a protein (156 residues ) with a sugar. Out
of 156 protein resiudes i have restrained 130 residues and rest part  i
have kept free. My doubt is that when we can say that system has
equilibrated?

if on the basis of rmsd then i dont feel it would be advisable to look the
rmsd of protein because major part i have restrained, if i consider  sugar
rmsd then i can see a kind of periodicity in the rmsd. if i look the rmsd
of the system then it seems to be stablized at 4.5nm.
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Re: [gmx-users] Selecting Nodes While Running Parallel Mdrun

2006-04-25 Thread cesar
If you are using Lam/mpi you have to lamboot as much as nodes as you 
want in the hostfile, you must specify the number of nodes as well as 
their IP.


Cesar

Shankar Prasad Kanaujia escribió:

Dear Gromacs Users,
I am installing parallel version of gromacs on linux cluster, but I do not 
want to use all the nodes for my simulation. Is there any way to select 
some specific nodes for simulation ?


Will I have to specify the nodes while installing or I would be able to 
select the nodes after installation according to my requirement ?


What are the necessary files to be edited for the same ?

Thanks,
Shankar Prasad Kanaujia
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[gmx-users] comm-mode = Angular

2006-04-25 Thread Naser, Md Abu



Hi All,

Dose anyone know any literature regarding comm-mode = Angular option?
With regards,

Abu Naser 

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Heriot-Watt University 
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[gmx-users] parallel gromacs

2006-04-25 Thread bruning
hello,

i would like to run gromacs in parallel on a single pc with 4 processors. as 
far as i understand it, this is not possible using mpi. is that correct? and 
if so, what do i have to use instead?

thanks,
marc
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Re: [gmx-users] parallel gromacs

2006-04-25 Thread Erik Lindahl

Hi,

It's certainly possible to do with MPI. LAM will for instance  
automatically detect the number of available CPUs, and uses fast  
shared-memory communication within each node.


Cheers,

Erik

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hello,

i would like to run gromacs in parallel on a single pc with 4  
processors. as
far as i understand it, this is not possible using mpi. is that  
correct? and

if so, what do i have to use instead?

thanks,
marc
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RE: [gmx-users] parallel gromacs

2006-04-25 Thread Shawn T. Brown
This should be entirely possible with MPI.  Depending on which MPI
implementation you are using, you would define your machine pool to be 4
instances of the same machine.  The documentation for both LAM and MPICH
provide documentation on how to do this as a default configuration.

Cheers,
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hello,

i would like to run gromacs in parallel on a single pc with 4 processors. as

far as i understand it, this is not possible using mpi. is that correct? and

if so, what do i have to use instead?

thanks,
marc
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[gmx-users] ffG43a2 and vdw

2006-04-25 Thread Joanne Hanna
Hi 

In the manual (page 81) it mentions that when using a Gromos96 ff the LJ 
cut-off should be set at 1.4nm or more, I have been using 1.0nm, should this 
cause many problems?

Thanks
Jo

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Re: [gmx-users] comm-mode = Angular

2006-04-25 Thread Jochen Hub

Naser, Md Abu wrote:


Hi All,
 
Dose anyone know any literature regarding comm-mode = Angular option?


This works,however, only with simulations in vacuum. In a water box you 
get overlaps at the box boundaries from angular rotations done by the 
comm-mode = Angular option resulting in lincs warnings...


cheers, jochen



With regards,
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School Of Life Sciences
Heriot-Watt University
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[gmx-users] EM comparison

2006-04-25 Thread Kushal Seth
Hi all !
I was doing EM for a bilayer. While using the mdp file containing only
the energy minimization terms my energy is minimized  but i get the
following  :

Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax  100

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 111 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax  100.
Potential Energy  = -5.2422903e+05
Maximum force =  3.8640459e+03 on atom 18141
Norm of force =  7.6843672e+04

What are the implicationsof Fmax  100 in my case. Also if i modify
the mdp file and increase the terms to contains the temp and pressure
coupling terms my energy comes out to be the same but at the same time
my Fmax also converges to  100. WHY SO?
Please comment !
Thanks in ADVANCE.
Kushal Seth
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[gmx-users] Gromacs-3.3.1 installation

2006-04-25 Thread Akshay Patny








Hi Dr. David



I am trying to install Gromacs-3.3.1 on the following platform
now:



redwood r0914/gromacs-3.3.1 uname a



Linux redwood 2.6.5-7.244-sn2 #1 SMP Mon
Dec 12 18:32:25 UTC 2005 ia64 ia64 ia64 GNU/Linux



Everything went okay, but, I got the following error during make install



make did not
gave any error







/usr/bin/install: `./g_sham.1' and
`/work1/r0914/gromacs-3.3.1/man/man1/g_sham.1' are the same file

/usr/bin/install -c -m 644 './make_edi.1'
'/work1/r0914/gromacs-3.3.1/man/man1/make_edi.1'

/usr/bin/install: `./make_edi.1' and
`/work1/r0914/gromacs-3.3.1/man/man1/make_edi.1' are the same file

make[3]: *** [install-man1] Error 1

make[3]: Leaving directory
`/work1/r0914/gromacs-3.3.1/man/man1'

make[2]: *** [install-am] Error 2

make[2]: Leaving directory
`/work1/r0914/gromacs-3.3.1/man/man1'

make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

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Can you suggest how to fix this?



Regards

Akshay



Akshay Patny



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Research Institute of Pharmaceutical
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Re: [gmx-users] System equilibration and interaction energy

2006-04-25 Thread Mark Abraham

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Dear Gromacs users,

I have two queries :
1. I am doing simulation for a protein (156 residues ) with a sugar. Out
of 156 protein resiudes i have restrained 130 residues and rest part  i
have kept free. My doubt is that when we can say that system has
equilibrated?


You will never be able to say the system is equilibrated - only that it 
may be equilibrated subject to the restraints.



   if on the basis of rmsd then i dont feel it would be advisable to look the
rmsd of protein because major part i have restrained, if i consider  sugar
rmsd then i can see a kind of periodicity in the rmsd. if i look the rmsd
of the system then it seems to be stablized at 4.5nm.
  if i look the potential energy of the system then from the begining
itself it seems to be equilibrated with a fluctuation of ~700kj/mol. I
guess that may be because of very high contribution from the solvent.

   For nearly 26000 atoms i have done the simulation upto 4 ns. So i would
just like to know that what is the best way to define system
equilibration when a major part is restrained.


You have the same methods available to guide your guesses as for 
unrestrained MD - check that observables like total energy, density, 
position RMSD (for systems expected to be in a PE minimum) are doing 
sensible things. Since the information content of the restrained atoms 
is low, you may like to exclude them from the maths.



2. my second question is about caluclation of the interaction energy
betwen the protein and the ligand. one possible way seems to be calculate
all the energy pairs given by gromacs with ligand and protein (ljsr, ljlr,
lj14 and for coulombs) and sum it or do i need to do two more simulations,
one with protein alone in the same box size with same number of water
molecules and other with the ligand alone and then substracting the sum of
potential energies of independent simulations from the protein-ligand
energy?


Your second method would be totally weird. If you are using an NVT 
ensemble, you will now have a different density, so your solvent will be 
doing different things interacting with itself and the remaining solute 
such that there's no reason to expect energy additivity. If NPT, the 
system will contract and there's still no such reason. I believe the 
first method is the accepted practice. The interaction energy is purely 
through-space in the absence of bonding, and so only the LJ and Coulomb 
terms contribute... thus they are all you need to consider.


Mark
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