Re: [gmx-users] g_h2order problem

2006-05-24 Thread David van der Spoel

Rongliang Wu wrote:

Hello, gmx-users,


my system has just 2827 water molecules, but the g_h2order command told 
me
that there are more than 2807 waters in each slice. there are only one group in
my index file and in O H H sequence. why? 
this is the sum over all frames. so this is normal. do it for a single 
frame to test it.





the results are as follows:

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  :-)  g_h2order  (-:

Option Filename  Type Description

  -f   10ns.xtc  InputGeneric trajectory: xtc trr trj gro g96 pdb
  -n  order_h2o.ndx  InputIndex file
 -nm  index.ndx  Input, Opt.  Index file
  -sbso20md.tpr  InputGeneric run input: tpr tpb tpa xml
  -o  order.xvg  Output   xvgr/xmgr file

  Option   Type  Value  Description
--
  -[no]h   bool no  Print help info and quit
  -[no]X   bool no  Use dialog box GUI to edit command line options
   -niceint 19  Set the nicelevel
  -b   time   2600  First frame (ps) to read from trajectory
  -e   time  0  Last frame (ps) to read from trajectory
 -dt   time  0  Only use frame when t MOD dt = first time (ps)
  -[no]w   bool no  View output xvg, xpm, eps and pdb files
   -[no]xvgr   boolyes  Add specific codes (legends etc.) in the output
xvg files for the xmgrace program
  -d string  Z  Take the normal on the membrane in direction X, Y
or Z.
 -slint100  Calculate order parameter as function of
boxlength, dividing the box in #nr slices.

Reading file bso20md.tpr, VERSION 3.3 (single precision)
Group 0 (  OW_HW1_HW2) has  8481 elements
There is one group in the index
Reading frame   0 time 2600.000   Box divided in 100 slices. Initial width
o
f slice: 0.103958
Reading frame1550 time 9980.000

Read trajectory. Printing parameters to file
91697 waters in slice 0
91534 waters in slice 1
91403 waters in slice 2
91630 waters in slice 3
90943 waters in slice 4
91577 waters in slice 5
91589 waters in slice 6
91367 waters in slice 7
91485 waters in slice 8
91641 waters in slice 9
91528 waters in slice 10
91599 waters in slice 11
91867 waters in slice 12
92253 waters in slice 13
92324 waters in slice 14
92318 waters in slice 15
91075 waters in slice 16
87944 waters in slice 17
82109 waters in slice 18
75151 waters in slice 19
67429 waters in slice 20
57285 waters in slice 21
42809 waters in slice 22
26212 waters in slice 23
12391 waters in slice 24
4453 waters in slice 25
1129 waters in slice 26
204 waters in slice 27
29 waters in slice 28
3 waters in slice 29
0 waters in slice 30
No water in slice 30
0 waters in slice 31
No water in slice 31
0 waters in slice 32
No water in slice 32
0 waters in slice 33
No water in slice 33
0 waters in slice 34
No water in slice 34
0 waters in slice 35
No water in slice 35
0 waters in slice 36
No water in slice 36
0 waters in slice 37
No water in slice 37
0 waters in slice 38
No water in slice 38
0 waters in slice 39
No water in slice 39
0 waters in slice 40
No water in slice 40
0 waters in slice 41
No water in slice 41
0 waters in slice 42
No water in slice 42
0 waters in slice 43
No water in slice 43
0 waters in slice 44
No water in slice 44
0 waters in slice 45
No water in slice 45
0 waters in slice 46
No water in slice 46
0 waters in slice 47
No water in slice 47
0 waters in slice 48
No water in slice 48
0 waters in slice 49
No water in slice 49
0 waters in slice 50
No water in slice 50
0 waters in slice 51
No water in slice 51
0 waters in slice 52
No water in slice 52
0 waters in slice 53
No water in slice 53
0 waters in slice 54
No water in slice 54
0 waters in slice 55
No water in slice 55
0 waters in slice 56
No water in slice 56
0 waters in slice 57
No water in slice 57
0 waters in slice 58
No water in slice 58
0 waters in slice 59
No water in slice 59
0 waters in slice 60
No water in slice 60
0 waters in slice 61
No water in slice 61
0 waters in slice 62
No water in slice 62
1 waters in slice 63
0 waters in slice 64
No water in 

RE: [gmx-users] fep calculation of L-Asn - D-Asn transition

2006-05-24 Thread Berk Hess





From: Alexandra Patriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: [gmx-users] fep calculation of L-Asn - D-Asn transition
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 11:11:38 +0200

Dear all,

I'm trying to do a fep calculation of the L to D transition of a amino acid 
in a small peptide. We have done some changes to the dihedrals and the 
charges in the topology file (see below), but still we get dH/dlambda 
values that are far too large. Does anyone have an idea what could possibly 
be wrong? Have we forgotten something that should have been taken into 
account?


Our changes in the toplogy file going from L - 0 :

[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  typeB  
  chargeB  massB
7  opls_293B  1ASN CA  2   0.25 13.019 
opls_293B   0   13.019  ; qtot 0.94
8   opls_140  1ASN HA  2   0.06  0 
opls_1400   0   ; qtot 1
9   opls_136  1ASN CB  3  -0.12 14.027 
opls_1360   14.027  ; qtot 0.88
   10   opls_140  1ASNHB1  3   0.06  0 
opls_1400   0   ; qtot 0.94
   11   opls_140  1ASNHB2  3   0.06  0 
opls_1400   0   ; qtot 1


[ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal functc0c1c2 
   c3
   717 3 8 235 0 0 
200
   717 3 9 2-350 0 
200



Our changes in the toplogy file going from 0 - D :

[ atoms ]
;   nr   type  resnr residue  atom   cgnr charge   mass  typeB  
  chargeB  massB
7  opls_293B  1ASN CA  2  0 13.019 
opls_293B   0.25 13.019   ; qtot 0.94
8   opls_140  1ASN HA  2  0  0 
opls_1400.06  0   ; qtot 1
9   opls_136  1ASN CB  3  0 14.027 
opls_136   -0.12 14.027   ; qtot 0.88
   10   opls_140  1ASNHB1  3  0  0 
opls_1400.06  0   ; qtot 0.94
   11   opls_140  1ASNHB2  3  0  0 
opls_1400.06  0   ; qtot 1


[ dihedrals ]
;  aiajakal functc0c1c2 
   c3
   717 3 8 2 0 200   -35   
0
   717 3 9 2 0 200   35
0


I don't understand why you turned off the charges.
Charge interactions are excluded anyhow for 1-3 interactions.
The problem might be that just turning of the impropers
does not have much effect, as the transition is blocked
by the angle potentials.
I would guess the D-L conversion would happen in one jump
when the improper potential is high enough to overcome
the barrier caused by the angle potentials. This would result
in a large hysteresis.
Turning of the angles (instead of the charges) might help.

Berk.


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[gmx-users] CHARMM force field in GROMACS

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Abraham

Hi,

I am making available under GPL two perl scripts, one of which converts
a CHARMM27 .prm file into the necessary .itp files for pdb2gmx to use to
produce .top files, and another that massages that .top file into
something that will produce a .tpr file that will get CHARMM energy  
force evaluations. I have submitted it for inclusion on the GROMACS web 
page and hopefully it will appear there shortly.


In the meantime, because I know there is interest in these scripts, if 
you want an email copy of the distribution that I hope will go up on the 
GROMACS web page, please email me off-list.


Regards,

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Re: [gmx-users] Simulating crystalls

2006-05-24 Thread karamyog singh
I am trying to simulate a crystal too. I have a box size of .65 nm and
there are 8 bcc crystals in the system. Lattice parameter = 0.287 nm.

I get a segmentation fault after mdrun -v. Is an atom with co-ordinates
0.574 0.000 0.000 equivalent to 0.287 0.000 0.000 in such a system?
What I am trying to ask is, does GROMACS consider these as 2 different
atoms placed at the respective positions or do the 2 atoms overlap?

What could be the reason for the segmentation fault? Is it because the atoms are too close to each other? 
-
Karamyog.On 5/23/06, Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David van der Spoel wrote: Gale, Ella wrote: Thanks for the advice, but my force-field has no charges and hence no coulomb potential, so I want the atoms to interact with itself via the
 Van der Waals functions. I'm using 3.2.1 at the moment and there is no option to use any of the Ewald summation techniques. Is this something that has been added in the most recent version?
 Ewald variant are only for Coulomb so far. You can use a normal cutoff or a shifted cutoff.One or two of the early PME papers describe implementation details forLJ PME, but I am not immediately aware of a modern MD code that
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Re: [gmx-users] Position restrain

2006-05-24 Thread Xavier Periole

Alessandro Mattozzi wrote:


Hi
How should my posres.itp look like? Is there any template available?
Thank
Regards


genpr does generate position rstrains ...

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[gmx-users] Stange results of bonds fep

2006-05-24 Thread Oleg Stroganov
Dear all,

I'm trying to calculate dG of transition between alpha and pi
conformation in some part of my protein. I indended to use fep and
perform this conversion in three steps: first, I want to fix alpha
conformation gradually by indroducing bonded interactions between
i'th H, i+4 and i+5'th O, then change equlibrium distances of these
bonds from alpha- to pi- state and finally remove bonds.

Surpringly, my system behaved in quite unusual way : at the first
steps of simulation (I used slow growth fep) distances between
perturbed atoms increased dramatically from 0.2nm and 0.45nm
(which are equlibrium distances for alpha-state) to 0.7 nm and
even further. No increase, however, was mentioned when fep was turned
off.

I succeeded to reproduce this strange behaviour on smaller systems by
cutting the piece of the protein, converting it into poly-cly chain
and performing the same simulation with following parameters f A and B
state:

[ atoms ]
...
16   opls_236  2GLY  O  4   -0.515.9994   ; qtot 1
...
23   opls_236  3GLY  O  6   -0.515.9994   ; qtot 1
...
46   opls_241  7GLY  H 130.3  1.008   ; qtot 0.8
...
[ bonds ]
...
   2346 1 0.200 0.201000
   1646 1 0.450 0.451000

At the and of 50 ps bd simulation from lambda=0 to lambda=1 distance
between 23 and 46 atoms increased from 0.196 to 0.448 nm, and distance
between 16 and 46 atoms increased form 0.496 to 0.73 nm.

Can anyone suggest, why results of fep are so strange? Is this a bug
or I'm missing something?

P.S. I run all these tests with gromacs 3.3.1

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[gmx-users] POPC simulation

2006-05-24 Thread Arindam Ganguly

Hi Steffen,
thanks for the reply. this is what i have done. my topol.top looks
like this now
#inlcude ffgmx.itp
inlcude popc.itp.

as per your last reply i have copied the contents of lipid.itp to
ffgmxbon.itp and ffgmxnb.itp without removing the contents of the
respective file. basically just appended the files with the contents
of the lipid.itp .

now when i run grommp -v - -f em.mdp ,
it still says atom type LC3 not found,.

i can't understand why this mistake in fact taking place. popc.itp
file the first 3 lines after [atom]
in fact mentions LC3. so where is the mistake. plx help. thanks.
arindam
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[gmx-users] Re: Simulating crystalls

2006-05-24 Thread Yang Ye
Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
 David van der Spoel wrote:
  Gale, Ella wrote:
  
 
  Thanks for the advice, but my force-field has no charges and hence no 
  coulomb potential, so I want the atoms to interact with itself via the 
  Van der Waals functions. I'm using 3.2.1 at the moment and there is no 
  option to use any of the Ewald summation techniques. Is this something 
  that has been added in the most recent version?
  
  Ewald variant are only for Coulomb so far. You can use a normal cutoff 
  or a shifted cutoff.
 
 One or two of the early PME papers describe implementation details for 
 LJ PME, but I am not immediately aware of a modern MD code that 
 implements it. If you want it, shop around.
 
 Mark
 
I got to read a note by Cheatham on PME for LJ VDW.
Look for question Is there a PME algorithm also for the VDW interactions? in

http://amber.scripps.edu/Questions/ewald.html

Yang Ye



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Re: [gmx-users] POPC simulation

2006-05-24 Thread Jim Fonseca

Arindam,
I fixed this problem a while ago and it was pretty difficult to  
figure out.  I tinkered with so many things, once I got it to work I  
didn't even know what steps I took to fix it!


Here's something to try:  GROMACS doesn't like the fact popc.itp has  
a four-character residue name (since protein residues are just three  
characters).  If you look at your .gro file, you'll probably see that  
somewhere along the line, the POPC got truncated to POP.  Try  
changing all instances of 'POPC' to 'POP' in your setup--this should  
probably just be in popc.itp (lots of occurrences) and topol.top(one  
occurrence where you list the number of POP molecules.


Please let me know if that works.

Jim

On May 24, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Arindam Ganguly wrote:


Hi Steffen,
thanks for the reply. this is what i have done. my topol.top looks
like this now
#inlcude ffgmx.itp
inlcude popc.itp.

as per your last reply i have copied the contents of lipid.itp to
ffgmxbon.itp and ffgmxnb.itp without removing the contents of the
respective file. basically just appended the files with the contents
of the lipid.itp .

now when i run grommp -v - -f em.mdp ,
it still says atom type LC3 not found,.

i can't understand why this mistake in fact taking place. popc.itp
file the first 3 lines after [atom]
in fact mentions LC3. so where is the mistake. plx help. thanks.
arindam
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Re: [gmx-users] POPC simulation

2006-05-24 Thread Jim Fonseca
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Hi
How should my posres.itp look like? Is there any template available?
Thank
Regards

Alessandro Mattozzi
M.Phil., Ph.D. student
Dept. of Fibre and Polymer Technology
Royal Institute of Technology
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Alessandro Mattozzi wrote:

 Hi
 How should my posres.itp look like? Is there any template  
available?

 Thank
 Regards

genpr does generate position rstrains ...

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Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 19:55:20 +0400
From: Oleg Stroganov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gmx-users] Stange results of bonds fep
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Dear all,

I'm trying to calculate dG of transition between alpha and pi
conformation in some part of my protein. I indended to use fep and
perform this conversion in three steps: first, I want to fix alpha
conformation gradually by indroducing bonded interactions between
i'th H, i+4 and i+5'th O, then change equlibrium distances of these
bonds from alpha- to pi- state and finally remove bonds.

Surpringly, my system behaved in quite unusual way : at the first
steps of simulation (I used slow growth fep) distances between
perturbed atoms increased dramatically from 0.2nm and 0.45nm
(which are equlibrium distances for alpha-state) to 0.7 nm and
even further. No increase, however, was mentioned when fep was turned
off.

I succeeded to reproduce this strange behaviour on smaller systems by
cutting the piece of the protein, converting it into poly-cly chain
and performing the same simulation with following parameters f A  
and B

state:

[ atoms ]
...
16   opls_236  2GLY  O  4   -0.5 
15.9994   ; qtot

1
...
23   opls_236  3GLY  O  6   -0.5 
15.9994   ; qtot

1
...
46   opls_241  7GLY  H 130.3   
1.008   ; qtot

0.8
...
[ bonds ]
...
   2346 1 0.200 0.201000
   1646 1 0.450 0.451000

At the and of 50 ps bd simulation from lambda=0 to lambda=1 distance
between 23 and 46 atoms increased from 0.196 to 0.448 nm, and  
distance

between 16 and 46 atoms increased form 0.496 to 0.73 nm.

Can anyone suggest, why results of fep are so strange? Is this a bug
or I'm missing something?

P.S. I run all these tests with gromacs 3.3.1



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Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 12:02:43 -0500
From: Arindam Ganguly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gmx-users] POPC simulation
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Steffen,
thanks for the reply. this is what i have done. my topol.top looks
like this now
#inlcude ffgmx.itp
inlcude popc.itp.

as per your last reply i have copied the contents of lipid.itp to
ffgmxbon.itp and ffgmxnb.itp without removing the contents of the
respective file. basically just appended the files with the contents
of the lipid.itp .

now when i run grommp -v - -f em.mdp ,
it still says atom type LC3 not found,.

i can't understand why this mistake in fact taking place. popc.itp
file the first 3 lines after [atom]
in fact mentions LC3. so where is the mistake. plx help. thanks.
arindam


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Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 15:53:07 + (UTC)
From: Yang Ye [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gmx-users] Re: Simulating crystalls
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 David van der Spoel wrote:
  Gale, Ella wrote:
 
 
  Thanks for the advice, but my force-field has no charges and  
hence no
  coulomb potential, so I want the atoms to interact with  
itself via the
  Van der Waals functions. I'm using 3.2.1 at the moment and  
there is no
  option to use any of the Ewald

RE: [gmx-users] g_h2order still makes problem

2006-05-24 Thread Dallas B. Warren
  the g_h2order still makes problem, i divided the box 
 into 1 slice but it told me there are 2405777 water in the slice
while the system has only 2827 tip4p water molecules.
   and the mu and cos generated is tortured!
   can it be any mistakes from the index? my index 
 file has only one group of the sequence OW HW1 HW2, the shell 
 is not included.

Didn't David just reply yesterday and say that that number is a sum of
all terms over the entire trajectory being analysed? i.e. if you
analysis a single FRAME (not slice), then the number should correspond
to the number of waters in there.

Catch ya,

Dr. Dallas Warren
Lecturer
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Victorian College of Pharmacy, Monash University
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[gmx-users] g_dipoles -slab option

2006-05-24 Thread Bob Johnson
Hello everyone,
Water tends to align at a hydrophobic surface in a way to maximize H-bonds.
Doing this leads to a dipole moment that is perpendicular to the surface
(pointing away from the surface). Is this correct?

I'm trying to verify this with a simulation. I have an uncharged surface in the
xz-plane. I'm using g_dipoles with the -slab option to get the dipole moment of
water slabs in the y direction. Below is the output. There are 5 columns of data
for some reason and I can't interepret it. The first column is the position of
the water slab. I can only assume that column 2 is the dipole in the x
direction and column 3 is the dipole in the y direction and so on. Is that
correct? What is the last column for?


@title Average dipole moment per slab
@xaxis  label Box-Y (nm)
@yaxis  label \f{12}m\f{4} (D)
@TYPE xy
@ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85
@ legend on
@ legend box on
@ legend loctype view
@ legend 0.78, 0.8
@ legend length 2
@ s0 legend \f{12}m\f{4}\sX\N
@ s1 legend \f{12}m\f{4}\sY\N
@ s2 legend \f{12}m\f{4}\sZ\N
 0.500   0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000
 1.500 -46.367   3.869  41.074  62.064
 2.500  36.106   0.765   3.870  36.321
 3.500   7.638   0.371   1.223   7.744
 4.500 -18.688   1.380 -20.000  27.406
 5.500   8.237   4.201  -9.015  12.914
 6.500  -0.103   0.057  -0.023   0.119
 7.500   0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000
 8.500   0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000
 9.500   0.000   0.000   0.000   0.000


Thanks,
Bob Johnson
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Re: [gmx-users] Simulating crystalls

2006-05-24 Thread Mark Abraham

karamyog singh wrote:
I am trying to simulate a crystal too. I have a box size of .65 nm and 
there are 8 bcc crystals in the system. Lattice parameter = 0.287 nm.


I get a segmentation fault after mdrun -v. Is an atom with co-ordinates 
0.574 0.000 0.000 equivalent to 0.287 0.000 0.000 in such a system?


Cubic PBC with side length l means that (x,y,z) is equivalent to 
(x+al,y+bl,z+cl) for any integers a,b and c.


What 
I am trying to ask is, does GROMACS consider these as 2 different atoms 
placed at the respective positions or do the 2 atoms overlap?


No. GROMACS takes every atom you give in the .top file and uses it - 
there is no attempt to check for symmetry simplifications such as 
quantum chemistry codes do.


What could be the reason for the segmentation fault? Is it because the 
atoms are too close to each other?


You're on your own here unless you can provide more information.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] g_dipoles -slab option

2006-05-24 Thread Paul van Maaren
+++ Bob Johnson [Wed, May 24, 2006 at 08:37:01PM -0400]:

 for some reason and I can't interepret it. The first column is the position of
 the water slab. I can only assume that column 2 is the dipole in the x
 direction and column 3 is the dipole in the y direction and so on. Is that
 correct? What is the last column for?

The last column is the vector norm.

  1.500 -46.367   3.869  41.074  62.064

$ perl -e 'print sqrt((-46.367)**2 + 3.869**2 + 41.074**2)'
62.0640099091253

-- 
Groeten,

Paul
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