Re: [gmx-users] can gromacs simulate the c60?

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Abraham

zzhwise1 wrote:
 
hi everyone
   I am planning to simulated the C60 ,but i am not sure whether the 
gromacs can simulate it !
   I have read a particle that simulated the CNT by using the gromacs 
and using the Morse potential!so i want to know is it correct to C60?if 
right,how to get the  morse parameters?


Probably the best source of information is going to be that paper... 
Some of these questions you could only answer if you'd done a simulation 
on C60 already...


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] about the position-restrained MD.

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Abraham
Liu Lin wrote:
> thanks for your reply!
> 
> but I do not understand. The posre.itp and the .top files are built by 
> the "pdb2gmx"
> they should be matched. Why does it happen that the position restraints 
> file does not match the topology file .Could you tell me where I can 
> find the reason.

Probably either the posre.itp or .top files have been edited in a manner
inconsistent with each other, or you are using files that don't
correspond to each other. If all else fails, make a new working
directory and repeat your pdb2gmx and/or solvation step to make sure the
.top and posre.itp must correspond...

Mark
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[gmx-users] can gromacs simulate the c60?

2007-03-08 Thread zzhwise1
 hi everyone   I am planning to simulated the C60 ,but i am not sure whether 
the gromacs can simulate it !   I have read a particle that simulated the CNT 
by using the gromacs and using the Morse potential!so i want to know is it 
correct to C60?if right,how to get the  morse parameters?   thanks a lot ! ___
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Re: [gmx-users] about the position-restrained MD.

2007-03-08 Thread Liu Lin

thanks for your reply!
but I do not understand. The posre.itp and the .top files are built by 
the "pdb2gmx" they should be matched. Why does it happen that the 
position restraints file does not match the topology file .Could you tell 
me where I can find the reason.
 




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about the position-restrained MD.Date:  Fri, 09 Mar 
2007 14:21:31 +1100>Liu Lin wrote:> > Dear 
gmx-users:> >> >   I can not finish my 
position-restrained MD job. When the pr started> > ,it stopped 
immediately. The log told that> > "Program grompp, VERSION 
3.3.1> > Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1108> > 
Fatal error:> > [ file "posre.itp", line 28 ]:> 
>  Atom 
index (27) in position_restraints out of bounds (1-25)"> > I can 
not find out the reason.>>Your job didn't even start the 
MD... this error message says that grompp>is failing. Your position 
restraints file doesn't match your topology>somehow, but you'll have 
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Re: [gmx-users] about the position-restrained MD.

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Abraham
Liu Lin wrote:
> Dear gmx-users:
>  
>   I can not finish my position-restrained MD job. When the pr started 
> ,it stopped immediately. The log told that
> "Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
> Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1108
> Fatal error:
> [ file "posre.itp", line 28 ]:
>  Atom index (27) in position_restraints out of bounds (1-25)"
> I can not find out the reason.

Your job didn't even start the MD... this error message says that grompp
is failing. Your position restraints file doesn't match your topology
somehow, but you'll have to work out why that is so.

Mark
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[gmx-users] about the position-restrained MD.

2007-03-08 Thread Liu Lin
Dear gmx-users:
  
  I can not finish my position-restrained MD job. 
When the pr started ,it stopped immediately. The log told that 
"Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1Source code file: 
toppush.c, line: 1108
Fatal error:[ file "posre.itp", line 28 
]: 
Atom index (27) in position_restraints out of bounds (1-25)" 
I can not find out the reason.Please help me. 
Thanks a lot!
 
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[gmx-users] How to calculate angle dependent rdf

2007-03-08 Thread 齐文鹏

Dear everyone,

I read it from the 3.3 manual that the g_rdf program can calculate the angle 
dependent rdf.

But I cannot find how to implement it ? Which option should be chosen or 
something else?

Could anyone help me?


Thank you !!
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Re: [gmx-users] Chimera GROMACS support

2007-03-08 Thread David Mobley

All,

Just in case there are those on here who don't know, Chimera is a nice
viewing program for molecular structures, trajectories, etc. It also
has a lot of bells and whistles relating to preparing structures for
simulation (i.e. building in missing residues/loops, etc).

David


On 2/27/07, Eric Pettersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
 The latest snapshot release of UCSF Chimera (versions 1.2348-50) now has
explicit support for GROMACS trajectories.  It requires .tpr and .trr files
as input.  If you try it out and run into problems or have suggestions, let
me know.
 The Chimera home page is here:

http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera

 Follow the "snapshot" link to reach the snapshot section of the download
page.  The home page also describes the fairly wide variety of features that
Chimera has.  You can find documentation for just the MD-specific features
here:

http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/ContributedSoftware/movie/framemovie.html

There's also an MD tutorial here:

http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/tutorials/ensembles2.html

though you might want to do the "Getting Started" tutorial first:

http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/docs/UsersGuide/frametut.html

--Eric



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Re: [gmx-users] About the evaluation for the free energy of lipid/protein interacion

2007-03-08 Thread David Mobley

You might want to start with an introductory simulation book like the
one by Andrew Leach.

David


On 3/1/07, Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Shulin Zhuang wrote:
> Great thanks. Would you like to give me several papers on this field.

No, I don't have any, and that's your job :-)

Mark
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[gmx-users] Re: Request

2007-03-08 Thread Anton Feenstra

payal kumari wrote:

Respected Sir
I am working on 1T5A,human pyruvate kinase M2.I mutated the protein at 
position 391 replacing histidine with tyrosine in chin A.After that 
performed energy minimization using gromacs..Its showed the warning 
"Water Box Exploded"

what does it mean and how to remove this..please let me know


It probably means you have (severe) clashes in your 'mutated' protein 
structure. This causes atoms to be pushed away with large forces.


Try to use a (simple) modeling program (e.g., DeepView/SwissPDBviewer) 
to resolve the problem.


By the way, I do not recall that I have seen this error during energy 
minimization, it usually shows up only during MD runs (check your mdp 
settings and mdrun output).



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Re: Re: [gmx-users] vacuum right but melt collapse

2007-03-08 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar

Hi Kitty,

Such a solution is unsatisfactory, as it seems that you're masking an
underlying cause. Now, I'm not sure of your other parameters, but when
using a cut-off (do you use reaction-field) you would usually (gromos
force field) use a twin-range of 0.9/1.4, which is what the force
field was parameterized for.

If you look at the energies in order to find the cause of a crash, you
want to look for the energy term first displaying strange behaviour.
You also may want to try setting the neighbour list update to every
step.

And please, don't use html formatted e-mails... :)

Hope it helps,

Tsjerk


On 3/8/07, kitty ji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





Tsjerk Wassenaar, thank you very much for you suggestion even if most of
them have been manipulated.



"Write out the energies at every step and check which of the energy
contributions goes astray. This may give you a good clue to where
you're mistake is. Also, run through the topology again, by hand,
checking all bonds, angles, dihedrals, exclusion (implicit ones!),
etc."

when the explosion happened, the energy of bond, angle and potential will
were increase. And the topology has been checked several times.





Now I increase the cutoff of VDW & Coulomb from 0.9 to 1.5. The system looks
ok from last night to this time. If the problem is fixed, I conclude that
cutoff 0.9 is not enough for electric system.



Hope this conclusion is helpful for GMX users.



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Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:49:30 +0100
From: "Tsjerk Wassenaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] vacuum right but melt collapse
To: "kitty ji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Discussion list for GROMACS
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Hi Ji Qing,

Write out the energies at every step and check which of the energy
contributions goes astray. This may give you a good clue to where
you're mistake is. Also, run through the topology again, by hand,
checking all bonds, angles, dihedrals, exclusion (implicit ones!),
etc.

Good luck,

Tsjerk

On 3/7/07, kitty ji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks Mark.
> But when one polymer chain was used, non-bonded interaction has already
been
> there. Because one chain means C44H156O22.
> After all, I'd like to try more chains.
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:01:52 +1100
> From: Mark Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] vacuum right but melt collapse
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312
>
> kitty ji wrote:
> > Hi GMX user:
> >
> > A model for Poly(vinyl methyl ether) was built with OPLS force field (
> > all H ).
> >
> >
> >
> > When the model was run alone (a single chain) in vacuum, anything goes
ok.
> >
> >
> >
> > But with 45 chains box, the system will be collapse with a little bond
> > elongates abnormal whatever in NVT or NPT.
> >
> >
> >
> > The relax time of pressure and temperature were adjust but no helpful.
> >
> >
> >
> > How can I found some possible reason and then fix it ? Any advise will
> > be appreciated.
>
> If an isolated molecule doesn't do anything strange, and two more more
> do, then you have a problem with inter-molecular interactions, i.e. the
> non-bonded ones. Try with just 2 chains to verify this... and look
> carefully at the atom types and the non-bonded parameters for them.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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Re: [gmx-users] genbox give coord file more waters than top file

2007-03-08 Thread Berk Hess





From: "Mark Abraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
To: "Discussion list for GROMACS users" 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] genbox give coord file more waters than top file
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:27:01 +1100 (EST)

> 8 mar 2007 kl. 01.32 skrev Mark Abraham:
>
>>> Dear gromacs guys
>>>
>>> Why would genbox put more water molecules in my .gro file than in
>>> my .top
>>> file? I'm sure all I have to do is edit the number in my top file,
>>> but I
>>> have not had this happen before, does anyone know of  a reason
>>> that this
>>> happens so I can fix my file?
>>
>> genbox doesn't read a top and produce that many solvent molecules.
>> For a
>> start, how does it know what shape you want them in? Read "man
>> genbox",
>> choose what you want to do, apply genbox, and then edit your .top
>> so the
>> number of waters agrees with what genbox produced... not the other way
>> around.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
> I'm not so sure about that. genbox *does* take a top file as an
> optional argument. genbox -h tells me:
>
> "Finally, genbox will optionally remove lines from your topology file
> in which
> a number of solvent molecules is already added, and adds a line with the
> total number of solvent molecules in your coordinate file."
>
> I have never used this option, so I don't know exactly how it works,
> but I expect it to do what William wants it to do.

Maybe this works, I've never used it either... but the point is that the
source of the information about how many waters to add comes from the
genbox command line, not this .top file. I think William wanted the number
of waters in his .top file to be added to his .gro file, and this is an
ill-defined proposition.

Mark


This depends.
If the gro and top came out of pdb2gmx, pdb2gmx already recognized
the water molecules and wrote the gro and top files.
genbox is supposed to regonize these crystal waters in the gro and top file.
Normally it would just add a line for the added water molecules.
But genbox is so smart that it checks if the waters in the output 
configuration

match the number in the orginal top plus the added waters, and it corrects
the top if there is something wrong.
I would guess that this is where the error occurs.

Please file a bug report to bugzilla.gromacs.org with the gro and top file
and the command line used for genbox.

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Re: [gmx-users] genbox give coord file more waters than top file

2007-03-08 Thread Mark Abraham
> 8 mar 2007 kl. 01.32 skrev Mark Abraham:
>
>>> Dear gromacs guys
>>>
>>> Why would genbox put more water molecules in my .gro file than in
>>> my .top
>>> file? I'm sure all I have to do is edit the number in my top file,
>>> but I
>>> have not had this happen before, does anyone know of  a reason
>>> that this
>>> happens so I can fix my file?
>>
>> genbox doesn't read a top and produce that many solvent molecules.
>> For a
>> start, how does it know what shape you want them in? Read "man
>> genbox",
>> choose what you want to do, apply genbox, and then edit your .top
>> so the
>> number of waters agrees with what genbox produced... not the other way
>> around.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
> I'm not so sure about that. genbox *does* take a top file as an
> optional argument. genbox -h tells me:
>
> "Finally, genbox will optionally remove lines from your topology file
> in which
> a number of solvent molecules is already added, and adds a line with the
> total number of solvent molecules in your coordinate file."
>
> I have never used this option, so I don't know exactly how it works,
> but I expect it to do what William wants it to do.

Maybe this works, I've never used it either... but the point is that the
source of the information about how many waters to add comes from the
genbox command line, not this .top file. I think William wanted the number
of waters in his .top file to be added to his .gro file, and this is an
ill-defined proposition.

Mark

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RE: [gmx-users] genbox give coord file more waters than top file

2007-03-08 Thread Berk Hess





From: WILLIAM R WELCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: [gmx-users] genbox give coord file more waters than top file
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:53:11 -0600

Dear gromacs guys

Why would genbox put more water molecules in my .gro file than in my .top 
file? I'm sure all I have to do is edit the number in my top file, but I 
have not had this happen before, does anyone know of  a reason that this 
happens so I can fix my file?


I have seen this problem for the first time on our Gromacs workshop last 
week.

I think the problem is that genbox does not recognize some crystal waters in
your input coordinate file. genbox currently checks for SOL, WAT and HOH.
What is the residue name of your crystal waters?

The solution for the moment is to manually count the water molecules in
the gro file and then correct the top file.

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Re: [gmx-users] grompp error

2007-03-08 Thread Martin Höfling
Am Donnerstag, 8. März 2007 schrieb best alep:

> I got this error everytime, after i change the value, there's still error
> message like this but with rcoulomb or rvdw values.

Which values did you change?

> "ERROR: The cut-off length is longer than half the shortest box vector or
> longer than the smallest box diagonal element. Increase the box size or
> decrease rlist.Velocities were taken from a Maxwell distribution at 300 K"

Did you really increase the boxsize?
You need to be a little bit more specific what exactly you did or what you're 
trying to do. 

Cheers
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Re: [gmx-users] PME, epsilon_rf and dielectric constant calculation

2007-03-08 Thread David van der Spoel

Itamar Kass wrote:

Dear Mark,

I read the manual few times looking for a clue. The only thing I could 
understand it that epsilon_rf is not taking inti account if I don't use 
reaction field.


Best, Itamar.

Mark Abraham wrote:

Dear all,

I wish to calculate the dielectric constant of small molecules liquids.
In order to do so, I am simulating the system using PME, with epsilon_r
   = 1.

I have few questions:
1. What is the meaning of epsilon_rf when I am using PME, if it
important, what it should be?



Have you looked in section 7.3?



2. Whet is the best way to calculate the dielectric constant of the
simulation box, does g_dipole is enough or should I use g_dielectric 
also.


You need to use g_dipoles -epsilonRF 0 if you have used defaults for 
PME. If you have used another
dielectric for PME (epsilon_surface) then you need to change that in the 
input to g_dipoles as well.



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Re: [gmx-users] genbox give coord file more waters than top file

2007-03-08 Thread Erik Marklund

8 mar 2007 kl. 01.32 skrev Mark Abraham:


Dear gromacs guys

Why would genbox put more water molecules in my .gro file than in  
my .top
file? I'm sure all I have to do is edit the number in my top file,  
but I
have not had this happen before, does anyone know of  a reason  
that this

happens so I can fix my file?


genbox doesn't read a top and produce that many solvent molecules.  
For a
start, how does it know what shape you want them in? Read "man  
genbox",
choose what you want to do, apply genbox, and then edit your .top  
so the

number of waters agrees with what genbox produced... not the other way
around.

Mark



I'm not so sure about that. genbox *does* take a top file as an  
optional argument. genbox -h tells me:


"Finally, genbox will optionally remove lines from your topology file  
in which

a number of solvent molecules is already added, and adds a line with the
total number of solvent molecules in your coordinate file."

I have never used this option, so I don't know exactly how it works,  
but I expect it to do what William wants it to do.




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[gmx-users] grompp error

2007-03-08 Thread best alep
Hi,
Can anyone help me?

I got this error everytime, after i change the value, there's still error 
message like this but with rcoulomb or rvdw values.

"ERROR: The cut-off length is longer than half the shortest box vector or 
longer than the smallest box diagonal element. Increase the box size or 
decrease rlist.Velocities were taken from a Maxwell distribution at 300 K"


 

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Re: [gmx-users] PME, epsilon_rf and dielectric constant calculation

2007-03-08 Thread Qiao Baofu

2007/3/8, Itamar Kass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Dear all,

I wish to calculate the dielectric constant of small molecules liquids.
In order to do so, I am simulating the system using PME, with epsilon_r
= 1.

I have few questions:
1. What is the meaning of epsilon_rf when I am using PME, if it
important, what it should be?
2. Whet is the best way to calculate the dielectric constant of the
simulation box, does g_dipole is enough or should I use g_dielectric also.



g_dipole is to calculate the  static dielectric constant, g_dielectric is to
calculate the frenquency-dependent dielectric constant.


Best, Itamar

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