Re: [gmx-users] compatibility of MOPAC charges with GROMACS ?

2007-05-17 Thread Marc F. Lensink
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 05:16:49PM -0700, David Mobley wrote:
 So what you really need to do, once you have worked out which forcfield
 you are going to use, go back to the documentation / papers for that
 particular forcefield, see how they generated the parameters, then use
 that same procedure for the new parameters / molecules you want to
 generated.
 
 Strangely enough, I recall writing almost exactly the same thing in
 response to a different user yesterday or the day before.
 
 It will sure be nice when the Wiki is working, then we only have to
 answer this once.

..and RTFW will replace RTFM..

marc
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[gmx-users] error in topology file generation

2007-05-17 Thread Archana Chavan

*hello everybody,*
*i am new user to GROMACS,*
*i want to perform simulations on docked protein ligand complex,*
*During the conversion of the PDB file i came to such a problem:
**just before the end  of conversion the program pdb2gmx.exe told that my
**PDB file compound is not included into Gromacs residue topology database.
**Directly as it says:
** Fatal error: Residue ''M_3' not found in residue topology database
*(which is docked ligand in the protein)
*Woud you be so glad to tell me how can I resolve this problem? *

looking forward to your help

tahnks in advance.



--
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MS (Pharm)Pharmacoinformatics
National Institute of Pharmaceutical Education and Research (NIPER)
Mohali-160 062
Punjab, India.
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[gmx-users] Re: Error while doing EM in DMSO.

2007-05-17 Thread Anil Kumar
Dear David,

Thanks for advice, i had made the changes but still getting the same error
that

Fatal error:
Atomtype 'SD' not found!

SDMSO  32.06000 ; DMSO Sulphur (solvent)
CDMSO  15.03500 ; DMSO Carbon (solvent)
ODMSO  15.99940 ; DMSO Oxygen (solvent)

**Changes Made in ffG43a1.atp file***
SD  32.06000 ; DMSO Sulphur (solvent)
CD  15.03500 ; DMSO Carbon (solvent)
OD  15.99940 ; DMSO Oxygen (solvent)

I am totally helpless and clueless in finding my mistakes.Any help,hint,
suggestions are most welcome.

Thanks,
With Regards
anil


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1. Re: Error while doing EM in DMSO. (David van der Spoel)
 Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 21:07:54 +0200
 From: David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Error while doing EM in DMSO.
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Anil Kumar wrote:
 Dear Users,

 First of all thank you Mark, yes you are right. it was problem of force
 field and topoloy file mismatch.
 I have made changes in the ffG43a1 residue toplogy file for DMSO., but
 still getting the same error. Please let me know if i am doing some
 mistake.

 If the problem is the missing masses, then just add them in the [atoms]
 section. (Chapter 5)

 --
 David.
 
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 Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
 Husargatan 3, Box 596,75124 Uppsala, Sweden
 phone:46 18 471 4205  fax: 46 18 511 755
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[gmx-users] Compiling Gromacs on 64 bit windows platform...

2007-05-17 Thread Kedar Potdar

Hi guys,

I am trying to compiler GROMACS onto 64 bit windows platform with AMD
Opteron Machine with Windows 2003 Server R2.

It may sound pretty basic but i am not able to figure out...

I could see assembly code in nonbonded directory and i am trying to write
makefile to build the same but i am bit confused as which directories/files
should i compile and is it appropriate that i am using nasm to execute those
assembly files on windows 64 bit platform?

Any help/pointers would be highly appriciated.

With warm regards,
*KEDAR*
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Re: [gmx-users] error in topology file generation

2007-05-17 Thread David van der Spoel

Archana Chavan wrote:

/hello everybody,/
/i am new user to GROMACS,/
/i want to perform simulations on docked protein ligand complex,/
/During the conversion of the PDB file i came to such a problem:
//just before the end  of conversion the program pdb2gmx.exe told that my
//PDB file compound is not included into Gromacs residue topology database.
//Directly as it says:
// Fatal error: Residue ''M_3' not found in residue topology database 
/ (which is docked ligand in the protein)

/Woud you be so glad to tell me how can I resolve this problem? /
 


chapter 5 in the manual.


looking forward to your help
 
tahnks in advance.
 



--
Archana Chavan
MS (Pharm)Pharmacoinformatics
National Institute of Pharmaceutical Education and Research (NIPER)
Mohali-160 062
Punjab, India.
phone:+91-(0)-947223




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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Error while doing EM in DMSO.

2007-05-17 Thread David van der Spoel

Anil Kumar wrote:

Dear David,

Thanks for advice, i had made the changes but still getting the same error
that

Fatal error:
Atomtype 'SD' not found!

SDMSO  32.06000 ; DMSO Sulphur (solvent)
CDMSO  15.03500 ; DMSO Carbon (solvent)
ODMSO  15.99940 ; DMSO Oxygen (solvent)

**Changes Made in ffG43a1.atp file***
SD  32.06000 ; DMSO Sulphur (solvent)
CD  15.03500 ; DMSO Carbon (solvent)
OD  15.99940 ; DMSO Oxygen (solvent)

I am totally helpless and clueless in finding my mistakes.Any help,hint,
suggestions are most welcome.

Thanks,
With Regards
anil


Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Error while doing EM in DMSO. (David van der Spoel)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 21:07:54 +0200
From: David van der Spoel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Error while doing EM in DMSO.
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Anil Kumar wrote:

Dear Users,

First of all thank you Mark, yes you are right. it was problem of force
field and topoloy file mismatch.
I have made changes in the ffG43a1 residue toplogy file for DMSO., but
still getting the same error. Please let me know if i am doing some
mistake.


If the problem is the missing masses, then just add them in the [atoms]
section. (Chapter 5)

--
they should be added in the top file. the atp is not used for anything 
(except for confusing people unfortunately)


--
David.

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Dept. of Cell and Molecular Biology, Uppsala University.
Husargatan 3, Box 596,  75124 Uppsala, Sweden
phone:  46 18 471 4205  fax: 46 18 511 755
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[gmx-users] FEP with real or dummy charges?

2007-05-17 Thread Georgios Patargias
Hi 

I want to calculate the change in free energy (electrostatic contribution only)
when introducing a charge in a certain site of a protein using a single step 
FEP. 

Should this be done with charging an inserted virtual site (a dummy atom) or a 
protein atom (e.g. Ca)?  

I noticed that in the case of the dummy atom, the Coul-14:Protein-vsite zero. I 
am 
not sure why though...

Thanks a lot in advance for any feedback.

Best wishes 
George

Dr. George Patargias
Polymer IRC Group
University of Leeds
Leeds, LS2 9JT, UK

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[gmx-users] how to increase the number of

2007-05-17 Thread Afonso Duarte
Dear All,
   
  I am using GROMACS 3.3.1 and i setup a simulation to run in 2 nodes of a 
workstation. It is running OK however now i have two extra nodes available to 
use in the same box and i would like to speed up the sim by using them. 
   
  Is there any way to increase the number of nodes under use ? 
   
  I tried tpbconv to extend the sim and increase the np vaue but it did not 
worked. 
   
  Thanks
   
  Afonso

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[gmx-users] question about g_rmsdist II

2007-05-17 Thread Fabrizio Mancinelli
Sorry, since I hadn't any answer to my question yet, I'm resending it to
give it visibility!

Thanks,
Fabrizio

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A: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Oggetto: question about g_rmsdist
Data: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:52:54 +0200
Dear all,

I would like to have some elucidation about g_rmsdist output.
Optionally, it outputs three matrices with the options -rms, -mean and -
scl. Questions are:

1) Exploring .xpm files, I see there is a letter code which converts
color exa-codes to letters to values. The resolution is tunable with
option -nlevels, but the range is delimited by the highest calculated
value. Is there a way to assign a fixed range (in order, e.g., to
compare different trajectories of the same protein)?

2) -rms output, I guess, is the deviation from average distance, over
time, for each atom couple. I see my matrix is full of 0's. I expected
0's on the principal diagonal (distance of an atom from itself is
obviously always zero), but others? It should mean atoms' distances RMSD
are 0, that is they do not deviate... but they don't look that fixed at
all from the trajectory! This is even more surprisingly in the -mean
output, which should contain, I guess, atom distances averaged over
time. In that case there are lots of 0's too. Maybe my I guess are
wrong...

3) What is, actually, -scl output?

Thanks in advance to anybody who will answer.

Fabrizio

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Re: [gmx-users] how to increase the number of

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Abraham

Afonso Duarte wrote:

Dear All,
 
I am using GROMACS 3.3.1 and i setup a simulation to run in 2 nodes of a 
workstation. It is running OK however now i have two extra nodes 
available to use in the same box and i would like to speed up the sim by 
using them.
 
Is there any way to increase the number of nodes under use ?
 
I tried tpbconv to extend the sim and increase the np vaue but it did 
not worked.


The other way to do a restart is to get your original .mdp file (check 
the values of gen_seed and unconstrained_start are appropriate), and 
your current .trr, .edr and any appropriate .gro (it's just used for 
atom names) and feed them to grompp with whatever -n flag you want to 
use. I expect this will not be reproducible with a tpbconv restart 
(particularly with PME) but you'll still be sampling the same ensemble 
within the error of the MD approximation.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] question about g_rmsdist II

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Abraham

Fabrizio Mancinelli wrote:

Sorry, since I hadn't any answer to my question yet, I'm resending it to
give it visibility!


If you don't get any luck, remember that the source code is available 
for a reason :-)



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Da: Fabrizio Mancinelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Oggetto: question about g_rmsdist
Data: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:52:54 +0200
Dear all,

I would like to have some elucidation about g_rmsdist output.
Optionally, it outputs three matrices with the options -rms, -mean and -
scl. Questions are:

1) Exploring .xpm files, I see there is a letter code which converts
color exa-codes to letters to values. The resolution is tunable with
option -nlevels, but the range is delimited by the highest calculated
value. Is there a way to assign a fixed range (in order, e.g., to
compare different trajectories of the same protein)?


There was discussion on the list of implementing a way to write a binary 
or ascii matrix. This would make it easy to do the kind of comparison I 
think you want to do. Check the archives for the resolution, but if 
there was one suitable for your needs, you'd need to use the CVS version 
of this utility.



2) -rms output, I guess, is the deviation from average distance, over
time, for each atom couple. I see my matrix is full of 0's. I expected
0's on the principal diagonal (distance of an atom from itself is
obviously always zero), but others? It should mean atoms' distances RMSD
are 0, that is they do not deviate... but they don't look that fixed at
all from the trajectory! This is even more surprisingly in the -mean
output, which should contain, I guess, atom distances averaged over
time. In that case there are lots of 0's too. Maybe my I guess are
wrong...


You've certainly got the wrong handle on -mean. Check the man page.


3) What is, actually, -scl output?


Don't know.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Compiling Gromacs on 64 bit windows platform...

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Abraham

Kedar Potdar wrote:

Hi guys,
 
I am trying to compiler GROMACS onto 64 bit windows platform with AMD 
Opteron Machine with Windows 2003 Server R2.
 
It may sound pretty basic but i am not able to figure out...
 
I could see assembly code in nonbonded directory and i am trying to 
write makefile to build the same but i am bit confused as which 
directories/files should i compile and is it appropriate that i am using 
nasm to execute those assembly files on windows 64 bit platform?
 
Any help/pointers would be highly appriciated.


I'm confused - why isn't normal configure and make (such as on the 
gromacs webpage installation instructions) working for you?


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Compiling Gromacs on 64 bit windows platform...

2007-05-17 Thread Kedar Potdar

I think, i forgot to mention that i am trying to compile GROMACS on native
windows and not on Cygwin...

On 5/17/07, Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Kedar Potdar wrote:
 Hi guys,

 I am trying to compiler GROMACS onto 64 bit windows platform with AMD
 Opteron Machine with Windows 2003 Server R2.

 It may sound pretty basic but i am not able to figure out...

 I could see assembly code in nonbonded directory and i am trying to
 write makefile to build the same but i am bit confused as which
 directories/files should i compile and is it appropriate that i am using
 nasm to execute those assembly files on windows 64 bit platform?

 Any help/pointers would be highly appriciated.

I'm confused - why isn't normal configure and make (such as on the
gromacs webpage installation instructions) working for you?

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] same simulation, different results

2007-05-17 Thread Jim Fonseca
Shutting off the fft optimization produced the same results for  
3.2.1.  Then I tried running two simulations using version 3.3.1 with  
the optimized fft and they differed.  Your response seemed to imply  
that the newer version should produce identical results.  Could you  
clear this up for me?


Thank you,
Jim Fonseca
On May 16, 2007, at 9:40 AM, Jim Fonseca wrote:


Thanks a lot--that was it.

On May 15, 2007, at 12:42 PM, David van der Spoel wrote:


Jim Fonseca wrote:

Hi,
Does anyone know what would cause a simulation to change if I run  
it a second time?  I'm starting with an EM structure and just  
doing a quick 10 ps simulation.  I've found that (in one case)  
the energies start to differ somewhere between step 200 and step  
250--the Vir and Pres values differ first.  I can't figure out  
what else besides gen_vel and gen_seed would give me different  
results.  I'm running on the same system, same number of  
processors, etc. I'm pasting my .mdp below.  I realize I'm  
probably overlooking something, but can anyone help me with this?

Thank you,
Jim Fonseca
title= PG_Ca_ext
cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
include  = -I../top
constraints = all-bonds
integrator   = md
tinit= 0.0
dt   = 0.002
nsteps   = 1   ;20 ps
nstxout  = 1
nstvout  = 1
nstlog   = 1
nstenergy= 50
nstxtcout= 50
xtc_grps = Protein  SOL_Na_Ca POP
energygrps   = Protein  SOL_Na_Ca POP
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
rlist= 1.4
coulombtype  = PME
rcoulomb = 1.4
rvdw = 1.4
tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = Protein  SOL_Na_CaPOP
tau_t= 0.1  0.1  0.1
ref_t= 300  300  300
Pcoupl   = Berendsen
pcoupltype = anisotropic
tau_p= 1.0
compressibility  = 4.5e-5 4.5e-5 4.5e-5 0.0 0.0 0.0
ref_p= 1.5 1.5 1.5 0.0 0.0 0.0
gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 300
gen_seed = 161803
optimize_fft = yes


Is this 3.2.1? The optimize_fft may make your simulations differ  
because, depending on timing, a different algorithm may be used.  
Change this flag to no and test again.




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Re: [gmx-users] same simulation, different results

2007-05-17 Thread David van der Spoel

Jim Fonseca wrote:
Shutting off the fft optimization produced the same results for 3.2.1.  
Then I tried running two simulations using version 3.3.1 with the 
optimized fft and they differed.  Your response seemed to imply that the 
newer version should produce identical results.  Could you clear this up 
for me?


Turning on the fftw optimization may lead to different results in either 
version. Turning it off should give identical results.


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Re: [gmx-users] question about g_rmsdist II

2007-05-17 Thread Erik Marklund


17 maj 2007 kl. 15.49 skrev Mark Abraham:


Fabrizio Mancinelli wrote:
Sorry, since I hadn't any answer to my question yet, I'm resending  
it to

give it visibility!


If you don't get any luck, remember that the source code is  
available for a reason :-)



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Oggetto: question about g_rmsdist
Data: Mon, 14 May 2007 18:52:54 +0200
Dear all,
I would like to have some elucidation about g_rmsdist output.
Optionally, it outputs three matrices with the options -rms, -mean  
and -

scl. Questions are:
1) Exploring .xpm files, I see there is a letter code which converts
color exa-codes to letters to values. The resolution is tunable  
with

option -nlevels, but the range is delimited by the highest calculated
value. Is there a way to assign a fixed range (in order, e.g., to
compare different trajectories of the same protein)?


There was discussion on the list of implementing a way to write a  
binary or ascii matrix. This would make it easy to do the kind of  
comparison I think you want to do. Check the archives for the  
resolution, but if there was one suitable for your needs, you'd  
need to use the CVS version of this utility.



2) -rms output, I guess, is the deviation from average distance, over
time, for each atom couple. I see my matrix is full of 0's. I  
expected

0's on the principal diagonal (distance of an atom from itself is
obviously always zero), but others? It should mean atoms'  
distances RMSD
are 0, that is they do not deviate... but they don't look that  
fixed at

all from the trajectory! This is even more surprisingly in the -mean
output, which should contain, I guess, atom distances averaged over
time. In that case there are lots of 0's too. Maybe my I guess are
wrong...


You've certainly got the wrong handle on -mean. Check the man page.


3) What is, actually, -scl output?


I don't use g_rmsdist much, but the -h option tells me that  
g_rmsdist can also produce matrices of the rms distances, rms distances
scaled with the mean distance and the mean distances and matrices  
with NMR

averaged distances (1/r^3 and 1/r^6 averaging)., which is a good clue.

/Erik


Don't know.

Mark
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[gmx-users] bondtype 5

2007-05-17 Thread Nicolas Schmidt
This may be a really simple question, I know, but still...

How can I set up a fixed connection between two atoms of a molecule? When I 
choose the 5th bondtype in my topology-file I get the following output from 
grompp (though it's processing, so I CAN start mdrun afterwards):

WARNING 1 [file ethane.itp, line 12]:
  No default Connect Bonds types, using zeroes

Either way I'm not sure how the distance of these two atoms is processed, so 
there is NO parameter that is specifying this bond-type (and a constraint would 
be processed by gromacs, wouldn't it? And I don't want it to, cause I want the 
simulation to be as simple as possible)

By the way, I wanna simulate a huge system of ethane and take a look at the 
processing time per simulated step, is there an output-file thats reading this?

Thanks in advance to everyone who is replying, it's so hard when you're stuck. 
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Re: [gmx-users] bondtype 5

2007-05-17 Thread David van der Spoel

Nicolas Schmidt wrote:

This may be a really simple question, I know, but still...

How can I set up a fixed connection between two atoms of a molecule? When I 
choose the 5th bondtype in my topology-file I get the following output from 
grompp (though it's processing, so I CAN start mdrun afterwards):

WARNING 1 [file ethane.itp, line 12]:
  No default Connect Bonds types, using zeroes

Either way I'm not sure how the distance of these two atoms is processed, so 
there is NO parameter that is specifying this bond-type (and a constraint would 
be processed by gromacs, wouldn't it? And I don't want it to, cause I want the 
simulation to be as simple as possible)

By the way, I wanna simulate a huge system of ethane and take a look at the 
processing time per simulated step, is there an output-file thats reading this?

Thanks in advance to everyone who is replying, it's so hard when you're stuck. 

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[gmx-users] problem with genion

2007-05-17 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi gromacs-users,

I have a problem with the simulation of a capped lysine residue.I followed the 
tutorial step by step. I added 1 Cl ion into my system in order to neutralize 
the overall charge by using genion, and then used the grompp command and I 
encountered with the following error:

Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 891

Fatal error:
moleculetype CU1+ is redefined


What is the problem?

Thanks in advance

Ozge Engin

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[gmx-users] initial configuration problems and energy minimization

2007-05-17 Thread Arun kumar

Dear gmx-users,
   Here I have a some problem regarding initial
configuration  My system is composed of  cationic surfactants,
co-surfactants, water. I am able to minimize the energy of my
system(random), if it contains 15(surfactants)+ 15(co-surf)+
1000(water)+
15 (counterions) and also am able to simulate...

  But when I increase the number of surfactants
or co-surfactants. Even the energy of the system initially is a
big negative. When I start true simulation, Potential energy is
becoming positive...and ultimately box is exploding [xtc error or some
times ci error].. still I tried to minimize the energy of initial
configuration, but I am getting the same error.

Below I describe the steps i took to do simulations

1)minimize the energy of surfactnat(btm.gro)(includes counterion) and
co-surfactant(str.gro) in Vaccum

2)Generate a system of 100 surfactnats(includes counterions), 20
co-surfactants and 1000 waters by using  packmol(random)

3)Minimize the whole system until potential will become a reasonable negaive

4)With that minimized structure I run simulation but always the box is exploding

My simulation is successful when  the no of surf and co-surf are 15+15

For this successful simulation Initially i am conducting a NVT
simulation with 0.01 fs timestep  at 100K temp and then another NVT at
desired temp(300K) and then NPT with 2fs timestep

I don't know why I am unable to conduct with more no. of surfactants
in water. I tried the samething for a bilayer initial
configuration also(generated by packmol), but getting same error
Is there any solution to solve this??? I already checked archive lot
of times but i am unable to find anything relevant.

I think its not that much related to gromacs.. But i need help to
solve this problem I can give any more details if it is
needed.

Thanks in advance
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[gmx-users] Calculate individual force between each atom pair

2007-05-17 Thread WU Yanbin

Hi, Everyone,
 The force given by .trr file is the total force acted on each atom. Now I
would like to modify codes to calculate individaul force between each atom
pair. Is it possible in gromacs? (Because I remember some part of gromacs is
writen in Fortran and already compiled).
 Thanks in advance.
   Yours Sincerely,
 WU Yanbin
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Re: [gmx-users] bondtype 5

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Abraham
By the way, I wanna simulate a huge system of ethane and take a look 
at the processing time per simulated step, is there an output-file 
thats reading this?


Have you tried looking at the bottom of your normal output?

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] problem with genion

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Abraham

OZGE ENGIN wrote:

Hi gromacs-users,

I have a problem with the simulation of a capped lysine residue.I followed the 
tutorial step by step. I added 1 Cl ion into my system in order to neutralize 
the overall charge by using genion, and then used the grompp command and I 
encountered with the following error:

Program grompp, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 891

Fatal error:
moleculetype CU1+ is redefined


What is the problem?


The molecule named CU1+ is being redefined. I'm not sure why such a 
molecule even exists in such a tutorial, but almost certainly you 
haven't followed the instructions as precisely as you needed to. If you 
don't understand how molecules get defined, have a read of the relevant 
part of chapter 5 of the manual.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] initial configuration problems and energy minimization

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Abraham

Arun kumar wrote:

Dear gmx-users,
   Here I have a some problem regarding initial
configuration  My system is composed of  cationic surfactants,
co-surfactants, water. I am able to minimize the energy of my
system(random), if it contains 15(surfactants)+ 15(co-surf)+
1000(water)+
15 (counterions) and also am able to simulate...

  But when I increase the number of surfactants
or co-surfactants. Even the energy of the system initially is a
big negative. When I start true simulation, Potential energy is
becoming positive...and ultimately box is exploding [xtc error or some
times ci error].. still I tried to minimize the energy of initial
configuration, but I am getting the same error.

Below I describe the steps i took to do simulations

1)minimize the energy of surfactnat(btm.gro)(includes counterion) and
co-surfactant(str.gro) in Vaccum

2)Generate a system of 100 surfactnats(includes counterions), 20
co-surfactants and 1000 waters by using  packmol(random)

3)Minimize the whole system until potential will become a reasonable 
negaive


4)With that minimized structure I run simulation but always the box is 
exploding


My simulation is successful when  the no of surf and co-surf are 15+15

For this successful simulation Initially i am conducting a NVT
simulation with 0.01 fs timestep  at 100K temp and then another NVT at
desired temp(300K) and then NPT with 2fs timestep


This looks pretty reasonable. You should check visually that packmol is 
not generating a conformation with atoms that are too close together. 
You can try using position restraints during your equilibration steps, 
and equilibrating for longer. The explosion is almost certainly 
happening because atoms are too close at some point, and these leads to 
huge energies. If your density is wrong for your NVT, then relaxing to 
NpT too quickly can cause this sort of problem too - use a large tau_t, 
or generate a box closer to the right size initially.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Calculate individual force between each atom pair

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Abraham

WU Yanbin wrote:

Hi, Everyone,
  The force given by .trr file is the total force acted on each atom. 
Now I would like to modify codes to calculate individaul force between 
each atom pair. Is it possible in gromacs? (Because I remember some part 
of gromacs is writen in Fortran and already compiled).


Err, no, not Fortran. The inner loops for calculating energies and 
forces are written in assembly for some common architectures, and there 
are fall-back routines in C. It would not be too hard to modify these C 
routines to write the nonbonded force between pairs of atoms in the 
inner loops. Writing that to output is likely to be unreasonably slow, 
and generate an unreasonably large data size (it's effectively a 
trajectory of size N^2 now). Depending on your application you might not 
need to write the numbers to a file, but you haven't told us what you 
want here.


In any case, think very carefully about what you want to do, and then be 
prepared to understand the whole structure of mdrun, and lots of fine 
detail inside do_force()


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Compiling Gromacs on 64 bit windows platform...

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Abraham

Kedar Potdar wrote:
I think, i forgot to mention that i am trying to compile GROMACS on 
native windows and not on Cygwin...


That's going to make it hard to interest people in helping you, since 
probably nobody has done that before, and with the availability of 
cygwin few people have an incentive to do so.


At the very least you could do a cygwin install and see how it 
constructs the Makefile... or just do a cygwin install and use it! :-)


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] how to increase the number of

2007-05-17 Thread Yang Ye

On 5/17/2007 8:14 PM, Afonso Duarte wrote:

Dear All,
 
I am using GROMACS 3.3.1 and i setup a simulation to run in 2 nodes of 
a workstation. It is running OK however now i have two extra nodes 
available to use in the same box and i would like to speed up the sim 
by using them.
 
Is there any way to increase the number of nodes under use ?

Check your MPICH/LAM implementation about how to boot up the extra nodes.
I tried tpbconv to extend the sim and increase the np vaue but it did 
not worked.
tpbconv cannot increase the nodes number. You have to opt for grompp, 
for which you can also obtain a exact continuation if you have .trr and 
.edr.
 
Thanks
 
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[gmx-users] energy minimization - double precision

2007-05-17 Thread Pradeep Kota

Dear users,
I'm trying to minimize the energy of a protein in vacuum. I have restrained
the backbone with posre.itp generated using genpr. when i try to minimize
the energy of this protein using single precision grompp followed by an
mdrun, it does not converge even after 600 steps and returns saying that it
could not get to the requested minimum energy, and suggested that i use
double precision for the same. so, i compiled gromacs with double precision
and tried the same and i get the following. Could you help me solve this?
Sometime back, venky wrote to the list that he would delete some atoms that
clash. Considering i would not want to do that, could you suggest an
alternative?

the error i get is,

Back Off! I just backed up wt_em.edr to ./#wt_em.edr.3#
Low-Memory BFGS Minimizer:
  Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.0e+01
  Number of steps=   50
Using 20 BFGS correction steps.

  F-max =  inf on atom 1
  F-Norm=  inf


Back Off! I just backed up wt_em.trr to ./#wt_em.trr.3#
Step 0, Epot=-4.939505e+04, Fnorm=  inf, Fmax=  inf (atom 1)
Step 1, Epot= nan, Fnorm=  nan, Fmax=0.000e+00 (atom 0)

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Back Off! I just backed up wt_em.gro to ./#wt_em.gro.3#

Low-Memory BFGS Minimizer converged to Fmax  10 in 1 steps
Potential Energy  =   nan
Maximum force =  0.00e+00 on atom 0
Norm of force =   nan

gcq#2: Jesus Built My Hotrod (Ministry)

***
and this is my mdp file
***
cpp  = /lib/cpp
define   = -DPOSRES -DFLEX_SPC

; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS
integrator   = l-bfgs
tinit= 0
dt   = 0.001
nsteps   = 50
init_step= 0

comm-mode= Angular
nstcomm  = 1
comm-grps=

; LANGEVIN DYNAMICS OPTIONS
bd-fric  = 0
ld-seed  = 1993

; ENERGY MINIMIZATION OPTIONS
emtol= 10
emstep   = 0.001
nbfgscorr= 20

; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS
nstxout  = 1000
nstvout  = 1000
nstfout  = 0
nstcheckpoint= 1000
nstlog   = 1000
nstenergy= 1000

nstxtcout= 0
xtc-precision= 100
xtc-grps = Protein
energygrps   = Protein

; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS
nstlist  = 1
ns-type  = Simple
pbc  = no

rlist= 1
domain-decomposition = no

; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW
coulombtype  = Cut-off
rcoulomb = 1
epsilon-r= 1

vdw-type = Cut-off
rvdw-switch  = 0
rvdw = 1
DispCorr = No

; OPTIONS FOR BONDS
constraints  = none
constraint-algorithm = Lincs
unconstrained-start  = no
lincs-order  = 4
lincs-iter   = 2
lincs-warnangle  = 30
morse= no
*

thanks in advance,
Kota.
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Re: [gmx-users] energy minimization - double precision

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Abraham

Pradeep Kota wrote:

Dear users,
I'm trying to minimize the energy of a protein in vacuum. I have 
restrained the backbone with posre.itp generated using genpr. when i try 
to minimize the energy of this protein using single precision grompp 
followed by an mdrun, it does not converge even after 600 steps and 
returns saying that it could not get to the requested minimum energy, 
and suggested that i use double precision for the same. so, i compiled 
gromacs with double precision and tried the same and i get the 
following. Could you help me solve this?


Try a visual inspection of your structure before and after the 
single-precision minimization and look for sources of problems. You 
don't actually need convergence of minimization before an equilibration 
mdrun is a reasonable thing to try. Double precision minimization is 
only something you care about before (say) a normal-mode analysis.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] how to increase the number of

2007-05-17 Thread Pradeep Kota

Oops ! am sorry.
but i'm sure i had done this once earlier with some flag, without tinkering
with the mdp file. i vaguely remember doing that. shall verify and get back
to you.

sorry afonso, and thanks for pointing out, mark ! :)

regards,
Kota.

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Pradeep Kota wrote:
 Hi Afonso,

 An easier way would be to use the -time flag with grompp. it would
 basically set the first time frame for the new tpr to what you give it.
 jus play around with it and i'm sure you can get what you wanted. dont
 forget to include the -np flag of course. :)

No, that's not what grompp -time is for. See the man page. If you want
to pretend it's the same simulation, by having the step numbering start
from wherever you're up to, then there is an .mdp flag you can set. See
section 7.3 of the manual.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] initial configuration problems and energy minimization

2007-05-17 Thread Arun kumar

Hi Mark.
  Thanks for your suggestions I will use your
suggestions to solve the problem. And  then I will reply here about
the outcomes.

Regards
Arun

On 5/18/07, Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Arun kumar wrote:
 Dear gmx-users,
Here I have a some problem regarding initial
 configuration  My system is composed of  cationic surfactants,
 co-surfactants, water. I am able to minimize the energy of my
 system(random), if it contains 15(surfactants)+ 15(co-surf)+
 1000(water)+
 15 (counterions) and also am able to simulate...

   But when I increase the number of surfactants
 or co-surfactants. Even the energy of the system initially is a
 big negative. When I start true simulation, Potential energy is
 becoming positive...and ultimately box is exploding [xtc error or some
 times ci error].. still I tried to minimize the energy of initial
 configuration, but I am getting the same error.

 Below I describe the steps i took to do simulations

 1)minimize the energy of surfactnat(btm.gro)(includes counterion) and
 co-surfactant(str.gro) in Vaccum

 2)Generate a system of 100 surfactnats(includes counterions), 20
 co-surfactants and 1000 waters by using  packmol(random)

 3)Minimize the whole system until potential will become a reasonable
 negaive

 4)With that minimized structure I run simulation but always the box is
 exploding

 My simulation is successful when  the no of surf and co-surf are 15+15

 For this successful simulation Initially i am conducting a NVT
 simulation with 0.01 fs timestep  at 100K temp and then another NVT at
 desired temp(300K) and then NPT with 2fs timestep

This looks pretty reasonable. You should check visually that packmol is
not generating a conformation with atoms that are too close together.
You can try using position restraints during your equilibration steps,
and equilibrating for longer. The explosion is almost certainly
happening because atoms are too close at some point, and these leads to
huge energies. If your density is wrong for your NVT, then relaxing to
NpT too quickly can cause this sort of problem too - use a large tau_t,
or generate a box closer to the right size initially.

Mark
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[gmx-users] glibc error with g_density (only for some cases)

2007-05-17 Thread Arun kumar

Dear gmx-users,
   I want to discuss and understand about an
error I am getting only at times I am simulating a DPPC double
bilayer phase(got the coordinates from Dr Tieleman's website). I used
genbox  -cs to get double bilayer. Then i started simulations
normally.

When I use   g_density -b 500  I get the following error

*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid next size (normal):
0x00713260 *** Aborted

It is giving a empty density.xvg file

I get same error if I use g_density -b 1000
I checked the reproducibility of the error.. I am getting it
always(I mean I am using g_density once again again, Not
simulating the system once again again)

But when I use g_density -b 1500 or more I am getting densities normally.
Actually  i am doing simulations at 4 different temperatures. But
I am getting the error only for three temperatures For one
temperature Every thing is fine..
Gromacs version I am using is : 3.3.1
I checked the archives and in google I found a similar error in
archives for make_ndx

After checking in google I came to know that its a common bug with
glibc package of different versions.  Now i want to know is there
anything wrong in my simulations(possibilities) and also how I can rid
of these errors.

Thanks and Regards
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M.E Chemical, IISc
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