Re: [gmx-users] errores during compilation of GROMACS 3.3.2

2007-10-14 Thread Mark Abraham

Itamar Kass wrote:

Dear all,

I am trying to compile GROMOCS 3.3.2 on Altix 3700 BX2 (Itanium2 
1.6GHz). I am doing something like:


On the same machine, I presume (ac.apac.edu.au), using modules

fftw/2.1.5-intel-9.1
scsl/1.6.0.0
intel-cc/9.1.051

and

./configure --enable-shared --program-suffix=_3.3.2_double 
--disable-float --with-fft=fftw2 --with-external-blas 
--with-external-lapack  LIBS="-L/opt/fftw-2.1.5/intel-9.1/lib -lscs"


I can reproduce Itamar's problem - which is actually with 
nb_kernel030_ia64_double, not nb_kernel010_ia64_double as it first 
appears from his post, probably thanks to his use of "make -j 2". That 
machine compiles single-precision 3.3.1 as above with no problems, and 
-scs is the SGI library for LAPACK and BLAS.


Removing --disable-float,
 icc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../../src 
-I../../../../../src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_ia64_single 
-I../../../../../include -DGMXLIBDIR=\"/usr/local/gromacs/share/top\" 
-O3 -w -MT nb_kernel010_ia64_single.lo -MD -MP -MF 
.deps/nb_kernel010_ia64_single.Tpo -c 
../../../../../src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_ia64_single/nb_kernel010_ia64_single.S 
 -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/nb_kernel010_ia64_single.o


compiles with no warnings or errors, but for nb_kernel030_ia64_single...

 icc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../../src 
-I../../../../../src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_ia64_single 
-I../../../../../include -DGMXLIBDIR=\"/usr/local/gromacs/share/top\" 
-O3 -w -MT nb_kernel030_ia64_single.lo -MD -MP -MF 
.deps/nb_kernel030_ia64_single.Tpo -c 
../../../../../src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_ia64_single/nb_kernel030_ia64_single.S 
 -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/nb_kernel030_ia64_single.o
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(1) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(2) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(3) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(4) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(5) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(6) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(7) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(8) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(10) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(15) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(193) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(195) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(269) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(423) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccJuhOaN.s(506) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start

.libs/nb_kernel010_ia64_single.o - 15 error(s), 0 warning(s)
make[5]: *** [nb_kernel010_ia64_single.lo] Error 1
make[5]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(1) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(2) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(3) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(4) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(5) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(6) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(7) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(8) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(10) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(15) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(207) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(261) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(276) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(496) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/icc5IXC2M.s(578) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start

.libs/nb_kernel030_ia64_single.o - 15 error(s), 0 warning(s)
m

With modules gcc/3.3.6 and fftw2/gcc-3.3.3, single precision compiles 
the non-bonded loops with no problem, although I didn't complete the 
make, or try double-precision.


Itamar, I suggest you try this for yourself, and then ask the APAC 
admins to install this for you, using the suggestions I make above, 
rather than use your own /home file space.


Mark
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[gmx-users] errores during compilation of GROMACS 3.3.2

2007-10-14 Thread Itamar Kass

Dear all,

I am trying to compile GROMOCS 3.3.2 on Altix 3700 BX2 (Itanium2 
1.6GHz). I am doing something like:


> ./configure --prefix=/home/564/ixk564/software/gromacs 
--enable-shared --program-suffix=_3.3.2_double --disable-float 
--with-fft=fftw2

> make -j 2

and get in replay:

 icc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../../../src -I../../../../include 
-DGMXLIBDIR=\"/home/564/ixk564/software/gromacs/share/top\" 
-I/opt/fftw-2.1.5/intel-8.1/include -O3 -tpp2 -ip -ftz -MT 
nb_kernel010_ia64_double.lo -MD -MP -MF 
.deps/nb_kernel010_ia64_double.Tpo -c nb_kernel010_ia64_double.S -o 
nb_kernel010_ia64_double.o

:3:1: warning: "__PTRDIFF_TYPE__" redefined
:4:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
:4:1: warning: "__SIZE_TYPE__" redefined
:3:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
:3:1: warning: "__PTRDIFF_TYPE__" redefined
:4:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
:4:1: warning: "__SIZE_TYPE__" redefined
:3:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(1) : error A2040: Unexpected token: 
Unary Diez Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(2) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(3) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(4) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(5) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(6) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(7) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(8) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(10) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(15) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(211) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(265) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(280) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(520) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccr4uV6Zs(602) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start

nb_kernel030_ia64_double.o - 15 error(s), 0 warning(s)
1) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(2) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(3) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(4) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(5) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(6) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(7) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(8) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(10) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(15) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez Operator 
at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(194) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(196) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(270) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(433) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start
/tmp/iccK7NleRs(516) : error A2040: Unexpected token: Unary Diez 
Operator at: Start

nb_kernel010_ia64_double.o - 15 error(s), 0 warning(s)
make[5]: *** [nb_kernel030_ia64_double.lo] Error 1
make[5]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[5]: *** [nb_kernel010_ia64_double.lo] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory 
`/home/564/ixk564/software/gromacs-3.3.2/src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel_ia64_double'

make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/home/564/ixk564/software/gromacs-3.3.2/src/gmxlib/nonbonded'

make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/home/564/ixk564/software/gromacs-3.3.2/src/gmxlib'

make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/564/ixk564/software/gromacs-3.3.2/src'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/564/ixk564/software/gromacs-3.3.2/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Do you have any idea how to overcome it?

Best wishes,
Itamar.

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Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread Yang Ye

Hi,

It's about geometry.

Be pragmatic. By inspecting the trajectory, you can which one works. if 
Linear works for your system, use it; otherwise, use rotation. Although 
I prefer to use Rotation for simulations in vacuum in the first place, 
and for first few ns simulation for big protein with explicit solvent.


Regards,
Yang Ye

On 10/15/2007 12:24 AM, OZGE ENGIN wrote:

Sorry, but I have to ask some more questions. I have just started to perform 
simulations in vacuum. I can understand not using of PME in vacuum simulations; 
however, I can not understand the sentence you wrote :
'rotation is recomended.' COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible.
Is it related to conservation of angular momentum?

Thank you very much!

Oz.
-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:07:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

- Original Message 
From: OZGE ENGIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:33:28 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Hi Yang,

I am performing a simulation of a peptide in vacuum, and in the mailing archieve, I read that using of linear option of comm_mode in the vacuum simulations.  


Is it due to the relatively rapid convergence of molecules in the vacuum 
environment?

  

It is not because of this reason, it is due to PBC. Simulation in vacuum is 
usually done without PBC, Rotation is recommended.
COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible, so if "Linear" works for 
you, you may use it.
  


Thanks in advance 


Ozge

-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.

Regards,
Yang Ye



- Original Message 
From: Dechang Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gmx-users 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34:35 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none.
The option Angular is said that "Remove center of mass translation
and rotation around the center of mass". Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ?
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


=
Dechang Li, PhD Candidate
Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China

Tel:   +86-10-62773779(O)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [gmx-users] Tool for visualizing disulphide bonds

2007-10-14 Thread Erik Lindahl

Hi,

On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:12 PM, Yang Ye wrote:

Program like VMD can draw extra bond. You need to get its manual  
and code a line or two in TCL.


Regards,
Yang Ye

On 10/14/2007 11:38 PM, van Bemmelen wrote:

Hi Ozge,

I'm not sure what you mean by "visualization". But what about  
using VMD
for trajectory visualization and creating a representation that  
contains

only the sulphur atoms forming the disulphide bonds?



The big caveat with disulphides is of course that they are covalent  
bonds, and therefore assigned in the topology (pdb2gmx uses input  
structure distances to determine whether to connect them). Even if  
the molecule would like to move apart and break them, they will be  
intact for the entire simulation since we put them there.


Cheers,

Erik
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Re: [gmx-users] ngmx error messages

2007-10-14 Thread Erik Lindahl

Hi,

On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Sagittarius wrote:


I already have some kind of cygwin.
Could you please provide me with more details on
"install cygwin with some kind of X server"

Thank you in advance


Actually, if you don't absolutely need ngmx you can just disable the  
X11-dependent parts with the configure flag --without-x.


Cheers,

Erik

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Re: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN

Sorry, but I have to ask some more questions. I have just started to perform 
simulations in vacuum. I can understand not using of PME in vacuum simulations; 
however, I can not understand the sentence you wrote :
'rotation is recomended.' COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible.
Is it related to conservation of angular momentum?

Thank you very much!

Oz.
-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 07:07:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

- Original Message 
From: OZGE ENGIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:33:28 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Hi Yang,

I am performing a simulation of a peptide in vacuum, and in the mailing 
archieve, I read that using of linear option of comm_mode in the vacuum 
simulations.  

Is it due to the relatively rapid convergence of molecules in the vacuum 
environment?

>> It is not because of this reason, it is due to PBC. Simulation in vacuum is 
>> usually done without PBC, Rotation is recommended.
>> COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible, so if "Linear" works for 
>> you, you may use it.

Thanks in advance 

Ozge

-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.

Regards,
Yang Ye



- Original Message 
From: Dechang Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gmx-users 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34:35 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none.
The option Angular is said that "Remove center of mass translation
and rotation around the center of mass". Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ?
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


=
Dechang Li, PhD Candidate
Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China

Tel:   +86-10-62773779(O)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=


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Re: [gmx-users] Tool for visualizing disulphide bonds

2007-10-14 Thread Yang Ye
Program like VMD can draw extra bond. You need to get its manual and 
code a line or two in TCL.


Regards,
Yang Ye

On 10/14/2007 11:38 PM, van Bemmelen wrote:

Hi Ozge,

I'm not sure what you mean by "visualization". But what about using VMD
for trajectory visualization and creating a representation that contains
only the sulphur atoms forming the disulphide bonds?

If that doesn't answer your question, please be more specific.

Cheers,
Jeroen


  

Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:45:24 +0300
From: "OZGE ENGIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [gmx-users] Tool for visualizing disulphide bonds
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hi all,

Is there any tool for the visualization of disulphide bonds 
along the whole trajectory?


Regards,

Ozge


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RE: [gmx-users] Tool for visualizing disulphide bonds

2007-10-14 Thread van Bemmelen
Hi Ozge,

I'm not sure what you mean by "visualization". But what about using VMD
for trajectory visualization and creating a representation that contains
only the sulphur atoms forming the disulphide bonds?

If that doesn't answer your question, please be more specific.

Cheers,
Jeroen


>Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:45:24 +0300
>From: "OZGE ENGIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [gmx-users] Tool for visualizing disulphide bonds
>To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
>Hi all,
>
>Is there any tool for the visualization of disulphide bonds 
>along the whole trajectory?
>
>Regards,
>
>Ozge
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Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread Yang Ye
- Original Message 
From: OZGE ENGIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:33:28 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Hi Yang,

I am performing a simulation of a peptide in vacuum, and in the mailing 
archieve, I read that using of linear option of comm_mode in the vacuum 
simulations.  

Is it due to the relatively rapid convergence of molecules in the vacuum 
environment?

>> It is not because of this reason, it is due to PBC. Simulation in vacuum is 
>> usually done without PBC, Rotation is recommended.
>> COM velocity removal's effect is directly visible, so if "Linear" works for 
>> you, you may use it.

Thanks in advance 

Ozge

-Original Message-
From: Yang Ye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.

Regards,
Yang Ye



- Original Message 
From: Dechang Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gmx-users 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34:35 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none.
The option Angular is said that "Remove center of mass translation
and rotation around the center of mass". Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ?
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


=
Dechang Li, PhD Candidate
Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi Yang,

I am performing a simulation of a peptide in vacuum, and in the mailing 
archieve, I read that using of linear option of comm_mode in the vacuum 
simulations.  

Is it due to the relatively rapid convergence of molecules in the vacuum 
environment?

Thanks in advance 

Ozge

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From: Yang Ye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 03:42:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.
 
Regards,
Yang Ye



- Original Message 
From: Dechang Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gmx-users 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34:35 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none.
The option Angular is said that "Remove center of mass translation
and rotation around the center of mass". Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ?
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


=
Dechang Li, PhD Candidate
Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China

Tel:   +86-10-62773779(O)
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[gmx-users] Tool for visualizing disulphide bonds

2007-10-14 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

Is there any tool for the visualization of disulphide bonds along the whole 
trajectory?

Regards,

Ozge

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Re: [gmx-users] Designing a topology file: bonded/non-bonded mess

2007-10-14 Thread David van der Spoel

Frankie Montenegro wrote:

Wow, I didn't realize you guys in Europe work 24/7 too. On Sunday morning
nonetheless :-)

new on the list? (I know you're not...)


On 10/14/07, David van der Spoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


question: are there chemical bonds between "molecules" (which you seem
to imply by stating the sites are connected by an aromatic ring). If
there are then your whole system should be considered as a single
molecule. Have you tried x2top on this? (gmx 3.3.2 only).



Yes they are. x2top wouldn't work, most atoms are redefined (two types
of O with
different charges, two types of C, etc. All are custom-fitted with
Gaussians and GULP) I don't think treating the whole system as one
molecule could work. A single "cell" of the crystall would have over
250 atoms, and I need 2x2 structure minimum, probably even bigger. But
that might be last resort (after all , aren't some proteins over
couple of thousand atoms?)


you can tune x2top as you see fit by editing the ffoplsaa.n2t file. Size 
is not a problem, and you can use periodic molecules as well.
Not sure what you're after, but I hope you realize that GROMACS can only 
do pair potentials, so no funky non-bonded three body potentials.




BTW, what is the slope of GMX_performance vs. molecule_size curve ?

There is one more regrouping that I am trying right now (namely having two
moleculetypes: "cube-edge" and "cube-node", adding some  table "LJ" in between).
 If this doesn't go, I am out of ideas.  Thanks anyway.
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Re: [gmx-users] Designing a topology file: bonded/non-bonded mess

2007-10-14 Thread Frankie Montenegro
Wow, I didn't realize you guys in Europe work 24/7 too. On Sunday morning
nonetheless :-)

On 10/14/07, David van der Spoel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> question: are there chemical bonds between "molecules" (which you seem
> to imply by stating the sites are connected by an aromatic ring). If
> there are then your whole system should be considered as a single
> molecule. Have you tried x2top on this? (gmx 3.3.2 only).
>

Yes they are. x2top wouldn't work, most atoms are redefined (two types
of O with
different charges, two types of C, etc. All are custom-fitted with
Gaussians and GULP) I don't think treating the whole system as one
molecule could work. A single "cell" of the crystall would have over
250 atoms, and I need 2x2 structure minimum, probably even bigger. But
that might be last resort (after all , aren't some proteins over
couple of thousand atoms?)

BTW, what is the slope of GMX_performance vs. molecule_size curve ?

There is one more regrouping that I am trying right now (namely having two
moleculetypes: "cube-edge" and "cube-node", adding some  table "LJ" in between).
 If this doesn't go, I am out of ideas.  Thanks anyway.
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Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread Yang Ye
Generally, linear. For simulation in vacumm, you need rotation.

With big molecules, equilibration may not be done thoroughly; this may result 
in very obivious rotation that Linear can not prevent. So visualize your 
trajectory and check your molecule. If it happens, you need to apply Rotation 
in the beginning of your simulation for a few ns.
 
Regards,
Yang Ye



- Original Message 
From: Dechang Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: gmx-users 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:34:35 PM
Subject: [gmx-users] the comm_mode


Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none. 
The option Angular is said that "Remove center of mass translation 
and rotation around the center of mass". Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ? 
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


= 
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Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China 

Tel:   +86-10-62773779(O) 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread David van der Spoel
Dechang Li wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none. 
> The option Angular is said that "Remove center of mass translation 
> and rotation around the center of mass". Does it mean the option
> Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ? 
yes
> If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
> water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
> Thank you for your reply.
> 
linear. angular with PBC will give artifacts

> 


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Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone:  +46184714205. Fax: +4618511755.
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Re: [gmx-users] Designing a topology file: bonded/non-bonded mess

2007-10-14 Thread David van der Spoel

Frankie Montenegro wrote:

Hi all,

I am hoping someone could give me advice regarding a topology file design.

I am trying to implement a forcefield for an organic crystal with 30
atoms at each site (therefore, 30 atom basis). Sites are connected by
an aromatic ring.

The forcefield I am trying to implement does not treat ring as a
single unit; rather, carbons are a part of the 3- and 4- body
interactions with other atoms from the site, and two of them have
harmonic term between themselves.

Initially, I tried to set each (30-atom) site as one "moleculetype".
So, half of the aromatic ring would be in one "moleculetype", and half
of it in the neighbor. But then I have to set up BONDED interactions
between atoms from DIFFERENT molecules. And not just one, three of
them: torsion, angle term and multiple harmonic terms.

I was hoping someone could see a solution here. I tried regrouping ring
 carbons to different molecules (sacrifising symmetry) but I always
end up with a bonded interaction between "nonbonded" atoms.




question: are there chemical bonds between "molecules" (which you seem 
to imply by stating the sites are connected by an aromatic ring). If 
there are then your whole system should be considered as a single 
molecule. Have you tried x2top on this? (gmx 3.3.2 only).



Any suggestion is appreciated.
F.
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[gmx-users] the comm_mode

2007-10-14 Thread Dechang Li
Dear all,

There are three options of comm_mode: Linear, Angular and none. 
The option Angular is said that "Remove center of mass translation 
and rotation around the center of mass". Does it mean the option
Angular remove the translation and rotation BOTH ? 
If I want to do a simulation such as a protein in the explicit
water, which option would be better? Or it will be the same?
Thank you for your reply.


Best regards,

2007-10-14


=   
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Department of Engineering Mechanics
Tsinghua University
Beijing 100084
PR China 

Tel:   +86-10-62773779(O) 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[gmx-users] Designing a topology file: bonded/non-bonded mess

2007-10-14 Thread Frankie Montenegro
Hi all,

I am hoping someone could give me advice regarding a topology file design.

I am trying to implement a forcefield for an organic crystal with 30
atoms at each site (therefore, 30 atom basis). Sites are connected by
an aromatic ring.

The forcefield I am trying to implement does not treat ring as a
single unit; rather, carbons are a part of the 3- and 4- body
interactions with other atoms from the site, and two of them have
harmonic term between themselves.

Initially, I tried to set each (30-atom) site as one "moleculetype".
So, half of the aromatic ring would be in one "moleculetype", and half
of it in the neighbor. But then I have to set up BONDED interactions
between atoms from DIFFERENT molecules. And not just one, three of
them: torsion, angle term and multiple harmonic terms.

I was hoping someone could see a solution here. I tried regrouping ring
 carbons to different molecules (sacrifising symmetry) but I always
end up with a bonded interaction between "nonbonded" atoms.

Any suggestion is appreciated.
F.
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