Re: [gmx-users] install problem on IBM powerpc AIX 5.3

2007-10-18 Thread liu xin
Hi, thanks for the time
I asked my administrator, he told me that there was no mpicc installed on
p575, the fore mentioned mpcc was the MPI c compiler, but he is not very
familiar with the AIX OS either, and I will try to explain my problem more
clearly:

a. configure --enable-mpi --prefix=/hpc/gmxmpi
I got a error message: checking whether the MPI cc command works...
configure: error: Cannot compile and link MPI code with mpc

b. export MPICC=/usr/bin/mpcc
configure --enable-mpi --prefix=/hpc/gmxmpi
I got the same error message as (1)

c. configure --enable-mpi=/usr/bin/mpcc --prefix=/hpc/gmxmpc
the configuration ended without error message, but at the end of the
configure output, there was no message telling me that I was compiling with
MPI support which usaslly does when I compile it on our Linux Cluster.
make mdrun
I get the error message: gcc: unrecognized option '-bmaxdata:0x8000
make install-mdrun
grompp -f -c -p -o 6np.tpr -sort -shuffle
mdrun -v -s 6np.tpr -np 6 -proces 6 -shared_memory
then I got the no MPI support error GROMACS compiled without MPI support -
can't do parallel runs

(4) I  checked the Makefile and compared it with the one I successfully
compiled on our Linux Cluster, found there was no MPI compiler invoked, for
example, the 89th line AS = gcc, 95th line CC = gcc, 96th line CCAS =
gcc etc.

in fact, this is the first time we try the AIX OS out, we dont even know
which is the MPI compiler, maybe the mpcc is not the MPI compiler...
I know many of you guys experienced with installation on AIX, any
suggestions ? I am totally a newbie...

On 10/18/07, Erik Lindahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MPICC is the environment variable (upper case important). It should be set
 to the name of your mpi-enabled C compiler.
 Cheers,

 ERik

 On Oct 18, 2007, at 4:40 AM, liu xin wrote:

 Hi Erick
 you mean export MPICC=mpcc? ok, I will try that



 On 10/18/07, Erik Lindahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:13 PM, liu xin wrote:
 
   Thanks for your quick comment David
   but if I tried
   ./configure --enable-mpi --prefix=/hpc/gromacsmpi
   it will complain about cant find MPI compiler, but I've already
   export mpcc=mpicc
  
 
  Try setting MPICC instead :-)
 
  Cheers,
 
  Erik
 
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[gmx-users] Addition of ions in vacuum simulations

2007-10-18 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi all,

I am simulating a charged peptide in vacuum. I want to neutralize my system by 
using genion command,and as expected it asks me a continuous solvent group for 
the replacement; however, I have no solvents.

How can I add ions to my system if I am in vacuum? or Is it necessary to add 
ions while performing simulations in vacuum?

Thanks in advance

Ozge

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Re: [gmx-users] install problem on IBM powerpc AIX 5.3

2007-10-18 Thread Mark Abraham
 Hi, thanks for the time
 I asked my administrator, he told me that there was no mpicc installed on
 p575, the fore mentioned mpcc was the MPI c compiler, but he is not very
 familiar with the AIX OS either, and I will try to explain my problem more
 clearly:

 a. configure --enable-mpi --prefix=/hpc/gmxmpi
 I got a error message: checking whether the MPI cc command works...
 configure: error: Cannot compile and link MPI code with mpc

 b. export MPICC=/usr/bin/mpcc
 configure --enable-mpi --prefix=/hpc/gmxmpi
 I got the same error message as (1)

You need an MPI C compiler. Find out its name. I'd expect b) to work if
you use the right name. Otherwise try ./configure --enable-mpi
MPICC=name_of_mpi_c_compiler

 c. configure --enable-mpi=/usr/bin/mpcc --prefix=/hpc/gmxmpc

--enable-mpi=/usr/bin/mpcc isn't recognized. Read ./configure --help

Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] Addition of ions in vacuum simulations

2007-10-18 Thread Mark Abraham
 Hi all,

 I am simulating a charged peptide in vacuum. I want to neutralize my
 system by using genion command,and as expected it asks me a continuous
 solvent group for the replacement; however, I have no solvents.

 How can I add ions to my system if I am in vacuum? or Is it necessary to
 add ions while performing simulations in vacuum?

This is a chemistry question that will depend on your protein and what
you're trying to study. In some cases you might also consider modifying
the chemical groups so that there is not an ion there.

Mark

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] Addition of ions in vacuum simulations

2007-10-18 Thread OZGE ENGIN
Hi Mark,

I think, it is not a chemistry question exactly. 
Genion command asks for a group whose atoms are replaced with ions.
I have no solvent molecules in my system. 
In this respect, how can I incorporate ions into my system? 

Thanks

Ozge

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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Addition of ions in vacuum simulations

 Hi all,

 I am simulating a charged peptide in vacuum. I want to neutralize my
 system by using genion command,and as expected it asks me a continuous
 solvent group for the replacement; however, I have no solvents.

 How can I add ions to my system if I am in vacuum? or Is it necessary to
 add ions while performing simulations in vacuum?

This is a chemistry question that will depend on your protein and what
you're trying to study. In some cases you might also consider modifying
the chemical groups so that there is not an ion there.

Mark

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] Addition of ions in vacuum simulations

2007-10-18 Thread Mark Abraham
 Hi Mark,

 I think, it is not a chemistry question exactly.
 Genion command asks for a group whose atoms are replaced with ions.
 I have no solvent molecules in my system.
 In this respect, how can I incorporate ions into my system?

Check your assumptions. Does it make sense to put isolated ions outside a
protein in vacuum?

Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] Addition of ions in vacuum simulations

2007-10-18 Thread Xavier Periole


What Mark means is that there us little meaning of adding ions in
a simulation of a protein in vacuum.

There is little sense and use of a simulation of a protein in vacuum,
but that could depend on what you are looking for.

There is little sense in putting ions in a vacuum environment to
neutralize your system, this does not depend on your problem.

The other option you have to neutralize the system is to neutralize
the side-chains so that here is no more net charges in your system.

This what is done in a Gromos FF version. check in the pdb2gmx options.

XAvier


I think, it is not a chemistry question exactly.
Genion command asks for a group whose atoms are replaced with ions.
I have no solvent molecules in my system.
In this respect, how can I incorporate ions into my system?


Check your assumptions. Does it make sense to put isolated ions outside a
protein in vacuum?

Mark

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[gmx-users] qasi-harmonic entropy calculation

2007-10-18 Thread Naser, Md Abu
Hi all user,

I have calculated entroy over time from eigenvalue(g_covar) and 
the result shows that the entropy decreasing towards zeo. The results 
is ok as far as it decreases. But I do not understand why it is approaching
to zero towards the end of the simulation. Can anyone explain why? 

I would appreciate your response.


With regards,
Abu Naser 

School Of Life Sciences 
Heriot-Watt University 
Edinburgh EH14 4AS 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: +44(0)1314518265 
Fax : +44(0) 131 451 3009 


 

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Re: [gmx-users] qasi-harmonic entropy calculation

2007-10-18 Thread Pedro Alexandre de Araújo Gomes Lapido Loureiro
Hi,

I understand you are using the Schlitter equation, is that so?
Could you give more details? Such as, what subset of atoms are you using to
calculate the entropy? Are you calculating it in dt time frames or are your
results cumulative? Why do you expect the entropy to decrease?

Regards,

Pedro.


2007/10/18, Naser, Md Abu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi all user,

 I have calculated entroy over time from eigenvalue(g_covar) and
 the result shows that the entropy decreasing towards zeo. The results
 is ok as far as it decreases. But I do not understand why it is
 approaching
 to zero towards the end of the simulation. Can anyone explain why?

 I would appreciate your response.


 With regards,
 Abu Naser

 School Of Life Sciences
 Heriot-Watt University
 Edinburgh EH14 4AS
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone: +44(0)1314518265
 Fax : +44(0) 131 451 3009





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[gmx-users] restarting jobs using tpbconv and grompp : with regards to gen_vel

2007-10-18 Thread himanshu khandelia
Hi

This question is about trying to make sure that I am doing the right thing
while trying to use tpbconv to restart jobs.

After minimization, for the first dynamics run, I use gen_vel = yes. For
subsequent restart runs however, gen_vel must be set to no. After the first
dynamics run of 200ps, my output is mol-1.edr/trr, and the input for the
first dynamics run was mol-1.tpr

I can then try to extend the simulation beyond 200 ps using tpbconv with the
following options:

tpbconv -f mol-1.trr -s mol-1.tpr -e mol-1.edr -extend 200 -o mol-2.tpr

The problem with this, however, is that mol-1.tpr was built with gen_vel =
yes, which should not be the case when one is restarting the simulation.
First question: will this matter at all, because the velocities should be
read from the .trr file anyway, and that should overwrite the information in
the tpr file ?

In order to circumvent the problem, and avoid deshuffling and reshuffling, I
wrote another .tpr file for the first dynamics run but with gen_vel set to
no. I did not use this tpr file to run the simulation. Lets call this tpr
file mol-novelocity-1.tpr. So, the only difference between mol-1.tpr and
mol-novelocity-1.tpr is that the former has initialized velocities, while
the latter does not.

Now, I can use tpbconv to restart the simulation as follows:

tpbconv -s mol-1.tpr -f mol-1.trr  -e mol-1.edr -extend 200 -o mol-2.tpr

I just wanted to confirm if what I am doing makes sense ? Thanks very much
for the help !

-Himanshu
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[gmx-users] GROMETA - Gromacs with Metadynamics, and more

2007-10-18 Thread Carlo Camilloni

Dear Gromacs users,

we have developed a GROMACS release with metadynamics.
If your are interested in trying it, you can download it from

http://lxmi.mi.infn.it/~provasi/grometa/

If you implement new features in it, we'd like to
have them included in our version, too, so let us know!
Also let us know if you find bugs or errors.


Carlo Camilloni and Davide Provasi.

Physics deparment, University of Milano
via Celoria, 16 20133 Milan, Italy
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Re: [gmx-users] restarting jobs using tpbconv and grompp : with regards to gen_vel

2007-10-18 Thread Mark Abraham

himanshu khandelia wrote:

Hi

This question is about trying to make sure that I am doing the right 
thing while trying to use tpbconv to restart jobs.


Check out http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Doing_Restarts

After minimization, for the first dynamics run, I use gen_vel = yes. For 
subsequent restart runs however, gen_vel must be set to no. After the 
first dynamics run of 200ps, my output is mol-1.edr/trr, and the input 
for the first dynamics run was mol-1.tpr


I can then try to extend the simulation beyond 200 ps using tpbconv with 
the following options:


tpbconv -f mol-1.trr -s mol-1.tpr -e mol-1.edr -extend 200 -o mol-2.tpr

The problem with this, however, is that mol-1.tpr was built with gen_vel 
= yes, which should not be the case when one is restarting the 
simulation. First question: will this matter at all, because the 
velocities should be read from the .trr file anyway, and that should 
overwrite the information in the tpr file ?


gen_vel is only used by grompp

In order to circumvent the problem, and avoid deshuffling and 
reshuffling, I wrote another .tpr file for the first dynamics run but 
with gen_vel set to no. I did not use this tpr file to run the 
simulation. Lets call this tpr file mol-novelocity-1.tpr. So, the only 
difference between mol-1.tpr and mol-novelocity-1.tpr is that the former 
has initialized velocities, while the latter does not.


Now, I can use tpbconv to restart the simulation as follows:

tpbconv -s mol-1.tpr -f mol-1.trr  -e mol-1.edr -extend 200 -o mol-2.tpr

I just wanted to confirm if what I am doing makes sense ? Thanks very 
much for the help !


These two output .tpr files should be the same except for the initial 
steps and times, unless your mol-2.mdp file took care of that. You can 
use gmxcheck to test for the differences.

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Re: [gmx-users] restarting jobs using tpbconv and grompp : with regards to gen_vel

2007-10-18 Thread Xavier Periole




This question is about trying to make sure that I am doing the right thing
while trying to use tpbconv to restart jobs.

After minimization, for the first dynamics run, I use gen_vel = yes. For
subsequent restart runs however, gen_vel must be set to no. After the first
dynamics run of 200ps, my output is mol-1.edr/trr, and the input for the
first dynamics run was mol-1.tpr

I can then try to extend the simulation beyond 200 ps using tpbconv with the
following options:

tpbconv -f mol-1.trr -s mol-1.tpr -e mol-1.edr -extend 200 -o mol-2.tpr


This is correct. tpbconv will take the velocities in the mol-1.tpr


The problem with this, however, is that mol-1.tpr was built with gen_vel =
yes, which should not be the case when one is restarting the simulation.
First question: will this matter at all, because the velocities should be
read from the .trr file anyway, and that should overwrite the information in
the tpr file ?

In order to circumvent the problem, and avoid deshuffling and reshuffling, I
wrote another .tpr file for the first dynamics run but with gen_vel set to
no. I did not use this tpr file to run the simulation. Lets call this tpr
file mol-novelocity-1.tpr. So, the only difference between mol-1.tpr and
mol-novelocity-1.tpr is that the former has initialized velocities, while
the latter does not.


Good trial but this will not work! It is not possible to have a tpr file
without velocities. If you set gen_v to no and do not give a gro/tpr/trr
file for it to read the velocities it will generate new ones anyways.



Now, I can use tpbconv to restart the simulation as follows:

tpbconv -s mol-1.tpr -f mol-1.trr  -e mol-1.edr -extend 200 -o mol-2.tpr

I just wanted to confirm if what I am doing makes sense ? Thanks very much
for the help !

-Himanshu


-
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- Institute of Molecular Assemblies
 City University of New York - USA
- Molecular Dynamics-Group
 University of Groningen - The Netherlands
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Re: [gmx-users] restarting jobs using tpbconv and grompp : with regards to gen_vel

2007-10-18 Thread himanshu khandelia
 Check out http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Doing_Restarts


Thanks very much.  I do understand the general restarting mechanism. It is
only the first restart that was a little bit confusing


  I just wanted to confirm if what I am doing makes sense ? Thanks very
  much for the help !

 These two output .tpr files should be the same except for the initial
 steps and times, unless your mol-2.mdp file took care of that. You can
 use gmxcheck to test for the differences.


Sorry I did not understand ? There is no mol-2.mdp file. So, in effect the
first tpbconf command should work. The velocities will be obtained from the
.trr file and not the .tpr file, correct ? That is the main issue bothering
me, because the .tpr file contains the initial velocities generated during
the first run.

tpbconv -f mol-1.trr -s mol-1.tpr -e mol-1.edr -extend 200 -o mol-2.tpr

Thanks again,

-himanshu
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Re: [gmx-users] qasi-harmonic entropy calculation

2007-10-18 Thread David van der Spoel

Pedro Alexandre de Araújo Gomes Lapido Loureiro wrote:

Hi,
 
I understand you are using the Schlitter equation, is that so?
Could you give more details? Such as, what subset of atoms are you using 
to calculate the entropy? Are you calculating it in dt time frames or 
are your results cumulative? Why do you expect the entropy to decrease?
 
Regards,
 

The CVS head version of g_anaeig computes these values as well.

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RE: [gmx-users] qasi-harmonic entropy calculation

2007-10-18 Thread Naser, Md Abu
Hi Pedro,

Thank you for your attention to my email. Yes, I am using Schlitter equation 
and the 
rusult is cumulative. The entropy is meant to be decreased as the protein is 
stick 
on to a surface.

I have used the entire protein as a subset. Is the programme takes the final 
structure 
for calculating covariance? 
 
With regards,

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Edinburgh EH14 4AS 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pedro Alexandre de Araújo Gomes Lapido 
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To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] qasi-harmonic entropy calculation
 
Hi,

I understand you are using the Schlitter equation, is that so?
Could you give more details? Such as, what subset of atoms are you using to
calculate the entropy? Are you calculating it in dt time frames or are your
results cumulative? Why do you expect the entropy to decrease?

Regards,

Pedro.


2007/10/18, Naser, Md Abu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi all user,

 I have calculated entroy over time from eigenvalue(g_covar) and
 the result shows that the entropy decreasing towards zeo. The results
 is ok as far as it decreases. But I do not understand why it is
 approaching
 to zero towards the end of the simulation. Can anyone explain why?

 I would appreciate your response.


 With regards,
 Abu Naser

 School Of Life Sciences
 Heriot-Watt University
 Edinburgh EH14 4AS
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Phone: +44(0)1314518265
 Fax : +44(0) 131 451 3009





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RE: [gmx-users] qasi-harmonic entropy calculation

2007-10-18 Thread Naser, Md Abu
Hi David,

Thanks for your information and I will have a look CVS head version.

With regards,

Abu Naser 

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-Original Message-
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Sent: Thu 18/10/2007 4:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] qasi-harmonic entropy calculation
 
Pedro Alexandre de Araújo Gomes Lapido Loureiro wrote:
 Hi,
  
 I understand you are using the Schlitter equation, is that so?
 Could you give more details? Such as, what subset of atoms are you using 
 to calculate the entropy? Are you calculating it in dt time frames or 
 are your results cumulative? Why do you expect the entropy to decrease?
  
 Regards,
  
The CVS head version of g_anaeig computes these values as well.

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Re: [gmx-users] qasi-harmonic entropy calculation

2007-10-18 Thread Pedro Alexandre de Araújo Gomes Lapido Loureiro
Maybe there has been some mistake during your calculations?
No, g_covar gives the average covariance matrix. You can check this matrix
with the command -ascii.
If you have used your own program to calculate entropy double check units
conversion stuff.

Regards.

Pedro.

2007/10/18, Naser, Md Abu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi Pedro,

 Thank you for your attention to my email. Yes, I am using Schlitter
 equation and the
 rusult is cumulative. The entropy is meant to be decreased as the protein
 is stick
 on to a surface.

 I have used the entire protein as a subset. Is the programme takes the
 final structure
 for calculating covariance?

 With regards,

 Abu Naser

 School Of Life Sciences
 Heriot-Watt University
 Edinburgh EH14 4AS
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Pedro Alexandre de Araújo
 Gomes Lapido Loureiro
 Sent: Thu 18/10/2007 1:47 PM
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] qasi-harmonic entropy calculation

 Hi,

 I understand you are using the Schlitter equation, is that so?
 Could you give more details? Such as, what subset of atoms are you using
 to
 calculate the entropy? Are you calculating it in dt time frames or are
 your
 results cumulative? Why do you expect the entropy to decrease?

 Regards,

 Pedro.


 2007/10/18, Naser, Md Abu [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
   Hi all user,
 
  I have calculated entroy over time from eigenvalue(g_covar) and
  the result shows that the entropy decreasing towards zeo. The results
  is ok as far as it decreases. But I do not understand why it is
  approaching
  to zero towards the end of the simulation. Can anyone explain why?
 
  I would appreciate your response.
 
 
  With regards,
  Abu Naser
 
  School Of Life Sciences
  Heriot-Watt University
  Edinburgh EH14 4AS
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Phone: +44(0)1314518265
  Fax : +44(0) 131 451 3009
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] install problem on IBM powerpc AIX 5.3

2007-10-18 Thread liu xin
Hi Mark
After some search on the web, I found that in AIX OS mpcc is the MPI c
compiler, while mpCC is the MPI C++ compiler and mpxlf is the MPI fortran
compiler.
but when I tried to configure it like:  configure --enable-mpi
MPICC=/usr/bin/mpcc, I still got error complaining Cannot compile and link
MPI code with mpcc.


On 10/18/07, Mark Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi, thanks for the time
  I asked my administrator, he told me that there was no mpicc installed
 on
  p575, the fore mentioned mpcc was the MPI c compiler, but he is not very
  familiar with the AIX OS either, and I will try to explain my problem
 more
  clearly:
 
  a. configure --enable-mpi --prefix=/hpc/gmxmpi
  I got a error message: checking whether the MPI cc command works...
  configure: error: Cannot compile and link MPI code with mpc
 
  b. export MPICC=/usr/bin/mpcc
  configure --enable-mpi --prefix=/hpc/gmxmpi
  I got the same error message as (1)

 You need an MPI C compiler. Find out its name. I'd expect b) to work if
 you use the right name. Otherwise try ./configure --enable-mpi
 MPICC=name_of_mpi_c_compiler

  c. configure --enable-mpi=/usr/bin/mpcc --prefix=/hpc/gmxmpc

 --enable-mpi=/usr/bin/mpcc isn't recognized. Read ./configure --help

 Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] install problem on IBM powerpc AIX 5.3

2007-10-18 Thread Mark Abraham

Mark Abraham wrote:

liu xin wrote:

Hi Mark
After some search on the web, I found that in AIX OS mpcc is the MPI c 
compiler, while mpCC is the MPI C++ compiler and mpxlf is the MPI 
fortran compiler.
but when I tried to configure it like:  configure --enable-mpi 
MPICC=/usr/bin/mpcc, I still got error complaining Cannot compile 
and link MPI code with mpcc.


Well, look at the last few hundred lines of config.log and see what you 
find by the way of error messages when configure tries to use mpcc to 
compile and link.


You should also use ./configure to make sure that you are running the 
configure in the gromacs install directory, not some other configure in 
your path.


Mark
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