Re: [gmx-users] H2 topology

2010-02-04 Thread 011013021-Jyotsna

Dear Mark,
Your suggestions were very helpful .
As per the literature I am following , It is required that 
the dummy atom has mass 0 and charge -0.950.Hence , I 
created the following itp file with this in mind.

##
; topology for hydrogen.

[ moleculetype ]
;namenrexcl
  H2   2

[ atoms ]
;   nrtype   resnr  residuatomcgnr 
  charge mass; total charge

1   H   1   H2  H1  1   0.475   1.00800  ; 0.00
2   H   1   H2  H2  1   0.475   1.00800  ; 0.00
3   DUM 1   H2  DUM 1   -0.950  0.0   ; 0.00

[ virtual_sites2 ]
; Site from funct a
3 1 2 1 0.074

[ constraints ]
1 2 2 0.074
##


But during energy minimization I encountered many 
problems.

The errors are:
### error ##
Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'cpp'

Back Off! I just backed up em_ion_out.mdp to 
./#em_ion_out.mdp.9#

checking input for internal consistency...
processing topology...
Opening library file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/ff_dum.itp
Generated 279 of the 1225 non-bonded parameter 
combinations
Opening library file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/spc.itp
Opening library file 
/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/ions.itp

Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_A'
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_B'
Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'
Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'H2'
processing coordinates...
double-checking input for internal consistency...
Cleaning up constraints and constant bonded interactions 
with virtual sites

renumbering atomtypes...
converting bonded parameters...

ERROR 1 [file 2frv_ion.top, line 40]:
  atom DUM (Res H2-6) has mass 0



ERROR 2 [file 2frv_ion.top, line 40]:
  atom DUM (Res H2-7) has mass 0



---
Program grompp_d, VERSION 4.0
Source code file: grompp.c, line: 940

Fatal error:
There were 2 errors in input file(s)
--
### error 
Is this due to a problem in the .itp file?
Even though i referred to the previous queries made in the 
forum , I was not able to get an answer,

Please guide me as to where I have gone wrong .
Thank You,
jyotsna



On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:42:09 +1100
 Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
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- Original Message -
From: 011013021-Jyotsna 011013...@bioinfo.sastra.edu
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 21:48
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] H2 topology
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
gmx-users@gromacs.org




Dear David,

Thanks for your reply.  From your reply, I get the 
impression that the bond length of my hydrogen molecule 
gets 
adjusted duing minimization of the whole system ( 
protien+water+ 
inserted hydrogen molecule). But the issue impending is 
the 
insertion of the hydrogen molecule itself into the 
protein+water 
box created in previous step. For insertion/addition of 
hydrogen 
molecules I used the command:


genbox_d -cp 2frv.conf.gro -o 2frv.solv.gro -p 2frv.top 
–ci 
h2.gro –nmol 100


What about a two-stage process? Do genbox -ci h2.gro 
-nmol 100 when there's no water, and then solvate 
*afterwards*.


Or, generate solvent, and get a list of 100 random 
numbers in the right range, manually delete those water 
molecules to create interstices, update your [molecules] 
section, then use genconf -ci and equilibrate carefully 
to fix the density.


Or, generate solvent for a box somewhat smaller than the 
one you want, use editconf -scale to scale the 
coordinates up to create interstices, use genconf -ci and 
then minimize really gently to fix all the bond lengths, 
and equilibrate carefully to fix the density.


Mark

 It reports to me the inability to add any of the 
hydrogen 
molecules, ie it adds 0 molecules out of 100 requested.

###error
Reading molecule configuration
Gallium Rubidium Oxygen Manganese Argon Carbon Silicon
Containing 3 atoms in 1 residue
Initialising van der waals distances...
Try 999
Added 0 molecules (out of 100 requested) of H2
Writing generated configuration to 2frv.solv.gro

Back Off! I just backed up 2frv.solv.gro to 
./#2frv.solv.gro.1#

PERIPLASMIC HYDROGENASE; PERIPLASMIC HYDROGENASE

Output configuration contains 8340 atoms in 977 residues
Volume : 1299.08 (nm^3)
Density : 143.043 (g/l)
Number of SOL molecules: 186

Processing topology
Removing line #40 'SOL 39308' from topology file 
(2frv.top)

error end###
How do i rectify this problem?
 I suspect the problem is due to the bond length of the 
hydrogen molecule that I created with 1.66A distance ( 
as 
described in my previous post) and the fact that the gap 
between 
the solvent molecules (in my case , water) is not big 
enough to 
accomodate the H2 molecules(as I had used the pdb of CO2 
and 
replaced each O with an H and C atom 

[gmx-users] Re: tutorial for ionic liquid

2010-02-04 Thread Vitaly V. Chaban
Hi Catarina,

This file contains the parameters for MD run, e.g. timestep, number of
steps, etc.

Good luck with IL,
Vitaly

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http://www-rmn.univer.kharkov.ua/chaban.html



On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Catarina Nunes cata.nu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry Vitaly,
 Can you tell me what means a file mdp?
 Thank you.
 Catarina

 Hello Vitaly,
 I have a tutorial for ionic liquids of [BMIM] [PF6] but i can´t run it


 2010/2/1 Vitaly V. Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com:
 Dear all,
 Do you have any tutorial for ?
 Best regards
 Catarina

 I have worked with MD of RTILs quite a lot. So if you have got
 concrete questions, you can probably ask me directly.


 Vitaly V. Chaban, Ph.D.
 http://www-rmn.univer.kharkov.ua/chaban.html

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Re: [gmx-users] H2 topology

2010-02-04 Thread Mark Abraham

On 04/02/10 21:01, 011013021-Jyotsna wrote:

Dear Mark,
Your suggestions were very helpful .
As per the literature I am following , It is required that the dummy
atom has mass 0 and charge -0.950.Hence , I created the following itp
file with this in mind.
##
; topology for hydrogen.

[ moleculetype ]
;name nrexcl
H2 2

[ atoms ]
; nr type resnr residu atom cgnr charge mass ; total charge
1 H 1 H2 H1 1 0.475 1.00800 ; 0.00
2 H 1 H2 H2 1 0.475 1.00800 ; 0.00
3 DUM 1 H2 DUM 1 -0.950 0.0 ; 0.00

[ virtual_sites2 ]
; Site from funct a
3 1 2 1 0.074


That gets you an asymmetric dummy atom, which seems weird. David told 
you how to get a symmetric one. The manual also makes that clear.




[ constraints ]
1 2 2 0.074
##


But during energy minimization I encountered many problems.


Strictly EM is done by mdrun. Your inputs to grompp were invalid, so EM 
never commences.



The errors are:
### error ##
Ignoring obsolete mdp entry 'cpp'

Back Off! I just backed up em_ion_out.mdp to ./#em_ion_out.mdp.9#
checking input for internal consistency...
processing topology...
Opening library file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/ff_dum.itp
Generated 279 of the 1225 non-bonded parameter combinations
Opening library file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/spc.itp
Opening library file /usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/ions.itp
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_A'
Excluding 3 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Protein_B'
Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'SOL'
Excluding 2 bonded neighbours molecule type 'H2'
processing coordinates...
double-checking input for internal consistency...
Cleaning up constraints and constant bonded interactions with virtual sites
renumbering atomtypes...
converting bonded parameters...

ERROR 1 [file 2frv_ion.top, line 40]:
atom DUM (Res H2-6) has mass 0



ERROR 2 [file 2frv_ion.top, line 40]:
atom DUM (Res H2-7) has mass 0



---
Program grompp_d, VERSION 4.0
Source code file: grompp.c, line: 940

Fatal error:
There were 2 errors in input file(s)
--
### error 
Is this due to a problem in the .itp file?


Yep. Dummy atoms need mass, or what is the point?

Mark


Even though i referred to the previous queries made in the forum , I was
not able to get an answer,
Please guide me as to where I have gone wrong .
Thank You,
jyotsna



On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:42:09 +1100
Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:

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- Original Message -
From: 011013021-Jyotsna 011013...@bioinfo.sastra.edu
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 21:48
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] H2 topology
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org



Dear David,

Thanks for your reply. From your reply, I get the impression that the
bond length of my hydrogen molecule gets adjusted duing minimization
of the whole system ( protien+water+ inserted hydrogen molecule). But
the issue impending is the insertion of the hydrogen molecule itself
into the protein+water box created in previous step. For
insertion/addition of hydrogen molecules I used the command:

genbox_d -cp 2frv.conf.gro -o 2frv.solv.gro -p 2frv.top –ci h2.gro
–nmol 100


What about a two-stage process? Do genbox -ci h2.gro -nmol 100 when
there's no water, and then solvate *afterwards*.

Or, generate solvent, and get a list of 100 random numbers in the
right range, manually delete those water molecules to create
interstices, update your [molecules] section, then use genconf -ci and
equilibrate carefully to fix the density.

Or, generate solvent for a box somewhat smaller than the one you want,
use editconf -scale to scale the coordinates up to create interstices,
use genconf -ci and then minimize really gently to fix all the bond
lengths, and equilibrate carefully to fix the density.

Mark


It reports to me the inability to add any of the hydrogen molecules,
ie it adds 0 molecules out of 100 requested.
###error
Reading molecule configuration
Gallium Rubidium Oxygen Manganese Argon Carbon Silicon
Containing 3 atoms in 1 residue
Initialising van der waals distances...
Try 999
Added 0 molecules (out of 100 requested) of H2
Writing generated configuration to 2frv.solv.gro

Back Off! I just backed up 2frv.solv.gro to ./#2frv.solv.gro.1#
PERIPLASMIC HYDROGENASE; PERIPLASMIC HYDROGENASE

Output configuration contains 8340 atoms in 977 residues
Volume : 1299.08 (nm^3)
Density : 143.043 (g/l)
Number of SOL molecules: 186

Processing topology
Removing line #40 'SOL 39308' from topology file (2frv.top)
error end###
How do i rectify this problem?
I suspect the problem is due to the bond length of the hydrogen
molecule that I created with 1.66A distance ( as described in my
previous post) and the fact that the gap between the solvent
molecules (in my case , water) is 

Re: [gmx-users] Ligand coming out while trying Drug-enzyme tutorial

2010-02-04 Thread vivek sharma
Hi Tsjerk,
Thanks for your response,
I am finding problem in using original coordinates with the PRODRG topology
because of mismatch in number of Hydrogen atoms in original coordinate file
and PRODRG topology.
Can you tell me how can I try 2nd option you suggested i.e. Fit the
structure obtained from PRODRG to original structure?

Thanks  Regards,
Vivek

On 27 January 2010 10:35, Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Vivek,

 Either

 1. Use the original ligand coordinates with the PRODRG topology

 or

 2. Fit the structure obtained from PRODRG to the original structure

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

 On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:58 AM, vivek sharma
 viveksharma.i...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Dallas,
  I am trying to run MD simulation over a docked complex (protein+ligand),
 to
  confirm their dynamic stability in water media.
  For the same I am using PRODRG server to generate topologies for ligand
  molecule as gromacs can generate topology for 20 standard residues. As
  mentioned in tutorial for drug-enzyme complex, I am editing the .top and
  .gro files to include the PRODRG generated files (DRGGMX.ITP in .top and
  DRGAPH.GRO in .gro file).
  I observe that their are changes in co-ordinate of ligand after
 processing
  them through PRODRG server. So these new co-ordinates for ligand are
 placing
  ligand away from the protein while the ligand molecule was in protein
 pocket
  in original docked complex.
 
  I hope it gives what I am trying to do, and where I am getting stuck.
 
  I am looking for some suggestions and more insight of the problem to
 solve
  it.
  Earlier I have done same procedure successfully for a different docked
  complex.
 
  Regards,
  Vivek
 
  2010/1/27 Dallas B. Warren dallas.war...@pharm.monash.edu.au
 
  So, what EXACTLY are you doing?
 
 
 
  Catch ya,
 
  Dr. Dallas Warren
  Drug Delivery, Disposition and Dynamics
  Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
  381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3010
  dallas.war...@pharm.monash.edu.au
  +61 3 9903 9167
  -
  When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble
 a
  nail.
 
 
 
  From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:
 gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org]
  On Behalf Of vivek sharma
  Sent: Monday, 25 January 2010 7:38 PM
  To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Ligand coming out while trying Drug-enzyme
  tutorial
 
 
 
  HI Tsjerk,
 
  Thanks for your reply. But, I can't see if it is going suddenly or
  gradually.
  What i can see is the ligand is away from the molecule after editing the
  gro file with PRODRG output.
 
  It seems liek PRODRG has modified the co-ordinates that places ligand
 away
  from the protein.
 
  ~Vivek
 
  2010/1/25 Tsjerk Wassenaar tsje...@gmail.com
 
  Hi Vivek,
 
   Now when I am processing the modified .gro file to generate box, the
   ligand
   and cofactor are going away from the protein molecule and I am not
 able
   to
   analyze the complex.
 
  Gradually going away, or suddenly jumping?
 
  In the latter case, read up on periodic boundary conditions.
 
  Tsjerk
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Ligand coming out while trying Drug-enzyme tutorial

2010-02-04 Thread vivek sharma
Hi Mark,
Thanks for your response, it worked well for few molecule but not for all.
As I mentioned first I am doing docking and then processing receptor through
pdb2gmx and ligand through PRODRG server.
But number of Hydrogen atoms in docked ligand and PRODRG generated topology
are not same. Although, number of Hydrogens are same in PRODRG generated
topology and pdb file but I can't use them as they have modified co-ordinate
than docked ligand, and the docked ligand coordinates can't be used as they
dont have all Hydrogen atom as mentioned in topology file (.itp file).
Can you suggest a way to come out of this problem.

Thanks  Regards,
Vivek

On 27 January 2010 10:40, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:

 On 27/01/10 15:58, vivek sharma wrote:

 Hi Dallas,
 I am trying to run MD simulation over a docked complex (protein+ligand),
 to confirm their dynamic stability in water media.
 For the same I am using PRODRG server to generate topologies for ligand
 molecule as gromacs can generate topology for 20 standard residues. As
 mentioned in tutorial for drug-enzyme complex, I am editing the .top and
 .gro files to include the PRODRG generated files (DRGGMX.ITP in .top and
 DRGAPH.GRO in .gro file).
 I observe that their are changes in co-ordinate of ligand after
 processing them through PRODRG server. So these new co-ordinates for
 ligand are placing ligand away from the protein while the ligand
 molecule was in protein pocket in original docked complex.

 I hope it gives what I am trying to do, and where I am getting stuck.

 I am looking for some suggestions and more insight of the problem to
 solve it.
 Earlier I have done same procedure successfully for a different docked
 complex.


 So you already have the coordinate file from which you wish to begin MD,
 and all you need are topologies. One approach is to generate your ligand
 .itp file with PRODRG as above, and your protein .top file with pdb2gmx from
 the same coordinate file with the ligand absent. Now you can simply take the
 protein.top file, #include the ligand .itp file and amend the [ molecules ]
 section. This is now a protein+ligand .top file.

 Then you will need to take your original protein+ligand structure file and
 perhaps modify the ligand part to conform with the atom and residue names
 and ordering in the PRODRG output coordinate file - but you don't need to
 concern yourself with the coordinates it produces.

 As normal, you will need to take care that the coordinate file you provide
 to grompp has the molecules ordered in the same order of the [molecules]
 section, and that atoms within molecules have a corresponding ordering in
 .top and coordinate file.

 Mark
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[gmx-users] CHARMM TIP3-Water with GMX

2010-02-04 Thread Stephane Abel

Hi all


I am doing some tests with the CHARMM port in GROMACS. Before to start 
more extensive simulations with this ff
I have performed a short run of 1000 TIP3-CHARMM water molecules in a 
cubic during at T=300 K and P=1.015 bar with v-rescale and PR as 
thermostat and barostat. I have used the VERSION 
4.0.99_development_20090927 of GMX.



### npt.mdp #


title= Bulk TIP3 equili
define= -DCHARMM_TIP3P ; CHARMM_TIP3_WATER with LJ interactions 
in H atoms

; Run parameters
integrator= md; leap-frog integrator
nsteps= 50; 2 * 50 = 1000 ps
dt= 0.002; 2 fs
nstcalcenergy   = 5
nstcomm = 5 
; Output control

nstxout= 1000; save coordinates every 2 ps
nstvout= 1000; save velocities every 2 ps
nstenergy= 1000; save energies every 2 ps
nstlog= 1000; update log file every 2 ps
energygrps  = system

; Bond parameters
continuation= yes; continuation dynamics run
constraint_algorithm = lincs; holonomic constraints
constraints= all-bonds; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds) 
constrained

lincs_iter= 1; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order= 4; also related to accuracy
; Neighborsearching
ns_type= grid; search neighboring grid cels
nstlist= 5; 5*2fs 10 fs
rlist= 1.0; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)
rcoulomb= 1.0; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
;vdW
rvdw= 1.2; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
; Electrostatics
coulombtype= PME; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range 
electrostatics

pme_order= 4; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing= 0.12; grid spacing for FFT
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl= V-rescale; modified Berendsen thermostat
tc-grps= system; one coupling groups - more accurate
tau_t= 0.1; time constant, in ps
ref_t= 300 ; reference temperature, one for each 
group, in K

; Pressure coupling is off
pcoupl= Parrinello-Rahman ; pressure coupling in NPT
pcoupltype  = isotropic ; uniform scaling of box vectors
tau_p   = 1.0   ; time constant, in ps
ref_p   = 1.0135; reference pressure, in bar
compressibility = 4.5e-5; isothermal compressibility of water, 
bar^-1

; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc= xyz; 3-D PBC
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr= EnerPres; account for cut-off vdW scheme
; Velocity generation
gen_vel= no; assign velocities from Maxwell distribution


###


After 1ns of MD, I can reproduce the density (1.014 g/cm3) and RDF of 
oxygen-oxygen water given in JCTC paper of Bjelkmar.



and with g_energy_mpi -f -nmol 1000 npt.edr command  I obtain


Statistics over 51 steps [ 0. thru 1000. ps ], 12 data sets
All averages are over 11 frames

Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Tot-Drift
---
LJ (SR) 4.46356   0.197047   0.196872 -0.0287239  
(kJ/mol)
LJ (LR)  -0.0808426 0.00072743 0.000725833 0.000166929  
(kJ/mol)
Disper. corr. -0.109557 0.000959736 0.000957692 0.000216851  
(kJ/mol)
Coulomb (SR)   -41.7696   0.309073   0.308661  0.0552643  
(kJ/mol)
Coul. recip.   -3.69787  0.0144802  0.0144802 3.31364e-05  
(kJ/mol)
Potential  -41.19430.19617   0.196016  0.0269571  
(kJ/mol)
Kinetic En. 7.47811   0.135378   0.135378 0.000498793  
(kJ/mol)
Total Energy   -33.7162   0.237225   0.237093   0.027456  
(kJ/mol)

Temperature 299.952 5.43015.43009  0.0200087  (K)
Pressure1.45811429.519429.013   -72.2231  (bar)
Volume  29.4835   0.258304   0.257752  0.0584779  (nm^3)
Density 1014.728.889098.87016   -2.00846  
(kg/m^3)



The computed RMSD of the water oxygen atoms with the command g_msd_mpi 
-s npt.tpr -f npt.trr -n index.ndx -b 300 -e 1000




Diffusion : D[OW] 5.3529 (+/- 0.2862) 1e-5 cm^2/s


The translational diffusion are nearly corrects compared with the 
literature  (5.86 1e-5 cm^2/s at 298 K, by Mark et Nilsson , J. Phys. 
Chem. A, 2001, 105 (43), pp 9954)




But i noticed that my average pressure seem to high (1.5 bar) for 1ns of 
MD and by consequence I am not very confident with the parameters I used 
in my mdp. Probably this run was also to short.


Moreover, since I am not a power user of  GROMACS, I don't know how to 
translate in GROMACS directives the sentence given in JCTC paper  using 
a short-range cutoff of 1.2 nm, and van der Waals interactions were 
switched off between 1.0 to 1.2 nm. And by consequence what are the 
corrects coulomb and vdw 

[gmx-users] ice.pdbice.itp

2010-02-04 Thread fairuz zulkifli
Hello everybody,
I'm Fairuz from Malaysia.
I just want to ask if there is someone that have information about PDB of
ice and itp file of ice.
I only had PDB of the ice and trying to convert it into itp file using
GAMESS software.
Is there any suggestion?
Thank you.
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Re: [gmx-users] ice.pdbice.itp

2010-02-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



fairuz zulkifli wrote:

Hello everybody,
I'm Fairuz from Malaysia.
I just want to ask if there is someone that have information about PDB 
of ice and itp file of ice.
I only had PDB of the ice and trying to convert it into itp file using 
GAMESS software.


You can't.  A .pdb file is a coordinate file, while an .itp is a parameter file 
(topology).  The two are not interchangeable.  I presume that you can use the 
parameters for water and simulate at a suitable temperature, though.


-Justin


Is there any suggestion?
Thank you.



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Re: [gmx-users] ice.pdbice.itp

2010-02-04 Thread Ran Friedman

 fairuz zulkifli wrote:
 Hello everybody,
 I'm Fairuz from Malaysia.
 I just want to ask if there is someone that have information about
 PDB of ice and itp file of ice.
 I only had PDB of the ice and trying to convert it into itp file
 using GAMESS software.

 You can't.  A .pdb file is a coordinate file, while an .itp is a
 parameter file (topology).  The two are not interchangeable.  I
 presume that you can use the parameters for water and simulate at a
 suitable temperature, though.

 -Justin
Not always - that depends on what you want to study.
It's very difficult to get realistic presentations of ice in MD, and the
freezing temperature of water models is usually not 273K. There are some
works on the subject, using an initial model prepared according to
geometric specifications. I remember something from Victoria Buch but
there may be newer studies around.

Ran.

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[gmx-users] bonds section in the topology file

2010-02-04 Thread Amir Marcovitz
Hi,

i'm simulating a surface in water and ions which is composed of 6X6 Carbon
atoms arranged on a 2-d lattice. (using ffamber99)
i want to keep the spacing between C-C neighbouring atoms at 0.34 Angstrom
(or some other spacing of choice..), and to maintain the surface rigid and
planar

for that i added to the [  bonds ] section at the topology file c0 values
and force constants as following:

[ bonds ]
;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
1 2 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
1 7 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
2 3 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
..
and so on..

and similarly  added 90 and 180 degrees bond angle constrains between triads
of atoms in the surface according to their location.

the thing is , i'm affraid my constraint of c0 of 3.4 Angst. is in some
conflict with the definition of C-C bond length which is defined somewhere
in the amber files (if i'm turning the constraint on co off the atoms
approach each other and the spacing is lost)

my questions are:
a) do you think i should define a new dummy atom? and in which files should
it be done? - i'm asking because i didn't find a clear answer in the manual
b) is there any other bond function  (what number?) which may ignore the
definition of the C-C length and treat only the c0 constraint?

if someone can answer or guide me to relevant sections in the manual i'll be
most thankful!
amir
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Re: [gmx-users] bonds section in the topology file

2010-02-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Amir Marcovitz wrote:

Hi,
 
i'm simulating a surface in water and ions which is composed of 6X6 
Carbon atoms arranged on a 2-d lattice. (using ffamber99)
i want to keep the spacing between C-C neighbouring atoms at 0.34 
Angstrom (or some other spacing of choice..), and to maintain the 
surface rigid and planar
 
for that i added to the [  bonds ] section at the topology file c0 
values and force constants as following:
 
[ bonds ]

;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
1 2 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
1 7 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
2 3 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
..
and so on..
 
and similarly  added 90 and 180 degrees bond angle constrains between 
triads of atoms in the surface according to their location.
 
the thing is , i'm affraid my constraint of c0 of 3.4 Angst. is in some 
conflict with the definition of C-C bond length which is defined 
somewhere in the amber files (if i'm turning the constraint on co off 
the atoms approach each other and the spacing is lost)
 
my questions are:
a) do you think i should define a new dummy atom? and in which files 
should it be done? - i'm asking because i didn't find a clear answer in 
the manual
b) is there any other bond function  (what number?) which may ignore the 
definition of the C-C length and treat only the c0 constraint?


Two options I can think of:

1. Why not position restrain your carbon lattices to parallel planes?
2. Use bond type 6 to define a harmonic potential between the atoms you want to 
restrain.  If the two lattices are part of the same molecultype definition 
(unclear from your post), then you can use distance restraints.  If they are 
separate molecules, however, you can't, and hence why bond type 6 is a viable 
option.


-Justin

 
if someone can answer or guide me to relevant sections in the manual 
i'll be most thankful!

amir
 
 



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[gmx-users] extending simulation confusion?

2010-02-04 Thread nishap . patel

Hi,

  I am trying to extend my simulation time from 100ns - 300ns. So I  
used the command :


tpbconv -s old.tpr -extend 10 -o new.tpr

but I got this:

Extending remaining runtime of by 20 ps (now 14992 steps)
Writing statusfile with starting step  0 and length  14992  
steps...

 time  0.000 and length 30.000 ps

So this means, basically the simulation is starting all over again and  
now it will run for 300ns? Is there a way I can specify what step to  
run from?


Thanks

-Nisha P

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Re: [gmx-users] a simple doubt about g_rms

2010-02-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Miguel Quiliano Meza wrote:

Hi everyone.

Nowadays I am learning how to analyze my results after MD. I have been 
reading the tutorial GROMACS Tutorial for Drug – Enzyme Complex and 
all is fine but I have a big doubt about g_rms. I know that g_rms 
compares two structures by computing the root mean square deviation 
(RMSD). In the tutorial one part said:


Use g_rms to obtain an RMSD plot of the protein backbone and the drug 
(IN4) throughout the simulation. Do the Backbone first g_rms –s md.tpr 
–f md.trr (or xtc) –o bkbone_rmsd.xvg You will be prompted to select a 
Group. Enter 4 (for backbone).
Compare to 1 Group in the reference. Enter 1 then Enter 4 for backbone 
again.


The last part for me is confused, I understand that I am going to 
compare backbone with protein so first (4) and then (1), but Enter 1 
then Enter 4 for backbone again, why and what should I do if I want 
to calculate the RMSD of the drug? (4) and then LIG?? or (LIG) and (LIG)?




The two groups serve two purposes - the first entry (per the prompt) is the 
group for which the least squares fit is performed.  The second group (the 
calculation group) then has the RMSD calculated from the fitted orientations. 
Lots of textbooks and web resources explain the calculation in greater detail; I 
suggest you have a look to see what Google will offer you, as well :)


-Justin

I know that these are trivial questions but I would be grateful I 
someone can help me or give advices.


Thanks in advance.

Miguel.



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Re: [gmx-users] extending simulation confusion?

2010-02-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



nishap.pa...@utoronto.ca wrote:

Hi,

  I am trying to extend my simulation time from 100ns - 300ns. So I 
used the command :


tpbconv -s old.tpr -extend 10 -o new.tpr

but I got this:

Extending remaining runtime of by 20 ps (now 14992 steps)
Writing statusfile with starting step  0 and length  14992 
steps...

 time  0.000 and length 30.000 ps

So this means, basically the simulation is starting all over again and 
now it will run for 300ns? Is there a way I can specify what step to run 
from?




The .tpr file will always specify the entire length of the run.  The point from 
which the simulation starts is contained in the checkpoint file.  Please see here:


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Extending_Simulations

-Justin


Thanks

-Nisha P



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[gmx-users] grompp in GROMACS 4

2010-02-04 Thread edmund lee

Dear all,

I am new in Gromacs 4.0.7 before this I was using the GROMACS 3.3.3.
I have some doubt in the grompp commands when i want to run in parallel

In Gromacs 3, I just use:

grompp_mpi -v -f _ _ _ -np 4
then,

mdrun_mpi -v -f -deffnm -np 4

but in Gromacs 4, I cant use 4 nodes in grompp in order to prepare tpr file for 
4 nodes to be used in mdrun_mpi
there is no option -np in grompp and grompp_mpi

Is it there is change in the command?

or is due to other problems?

THANKS.
  
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Re: [gmx-users] grompp in GROMACS 4

2010-02-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



edmund lee wrote:

Dear all,

I am new in Gromacs 4.0.7 before this I was using the GROMACS 3.3.3.
I have some doubt in the grompp commands when i want to run in parallel

In Gromacs 3, I just use:

grompp_mpi -v -f _ _ _ -np 4
then,

mdrun_mpi -v -f -deffnm -np 4

but in Gromacs 4, I cant use 4 nodes in grompp in order to prepare tpr file for 
4 nodes to be used in mdrun_mpi
there is no option -np in grompp and grompp_mpi

Is it there is change in the command?

or is due to other problems?

THANKS.



You posted this message already, and received two replies, one of which pointed 
you to a web link with a very clear solution:


http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-February/048593.html

And you can always check the options of every command with -h, i.e.:

grompp -h

should give you some very obvious information.

-Justin




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Re: [gmx-users] bonds section in the topology file

2010-02-04 Thread Amir Marcovitz
Thank you Justin,

actually, i have two parallel rigid plates that are free to move towards
each other on the Y-axis (i used position restrain on Y and Z axes)
later on i will umbrella sampling to obtain the plate-plate PMF at various
distances from each other (thanks a lot for the helpful tutorial!)

so i will try bond type 6 as you suggested.

up until now i observed , especially during the the NPT run ,that the atoms
are fluctuating , and if the time step was 0.002psec or even 0.001 psec the
system was very un-robust and the simulation explodes. (that is my main
concern and the reason for my previous post)

do you think bond type 6 will settle this?

anyway, thanks a lot for the quick reply!
Amir

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



 Amir Marcovitz wrote:

 Hi,
  i'm simulating a surface in water and ions which is composed of 6X6
 Carbon atoms arranged on a 2-d lattice. (using ffamber99)
 i want to keep the spacing between C-C neighbouring atoms at 0.34 Angstrom
 (or some other spacing of choice..), and to maintain the surface rigid and
 planar
  for that i added to the [  bonds ] section at the topology file c0 values
 and force constants as following:
  [ bonds ]
 ;  aiaj functc0c1c2c3
1 2 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
1 7 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
2 3 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
 ..
 and so on..
  and similarly  added 90 and 180 degrees bond angle constrains between
 triads of atoms in the surface according to their location.
  the thing is , i'm affraid my constraint of c0 of 3.4 Angst. is in some
 conflict with the definition of C-C bond length which is defined somewhere
 in the amber files (if i'm turning the constraint on co off the atoms
 approach each other and the spacing is lost)
  my questions are:
 a) do you think i should define a new dummy atom? and in which files
 should it be done? - i'm asking because i didn't find a clear answer in the
 manual
 b) is there any other bond function  (what number?) which may ignore the
 definition of the C-C length and treat only the c0 constraint?


 Two options I can think of:

 1. Why not position restrain your carbon lattices to parallel planes?
 2. Use bond type 6 to define a harmonic potential between the atoms you
 want to restrain.  If the two lattices are part of the same molecultype
 definition (unclear from your post), then you can use distance restraints.
  If they are separate molecules, however, you can't, and hence why bond type
 6 is a viable option.

 -Justin


  if someone can answer or guide me to relevant sections in the manual i'll
 be most thankful!
 amir



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Re: [gmx-users] bonds section in the topology file

2010-02-04 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Amir Marcovitz wrote:

Thank you Justin,
 
actually, i have two parallel rigid plates that are free to move towards 
each other on the Y-axis (i used position restrain on Y and Z axes)
later on i will umbrella sampling to obtain the plate-plate PMF at 
various distances from each other (thanks a lot for the helpful tutorial!)
 
so i will try bond type 6 as you suggested.
 
up until now i observed , especially during the the NPT run ,that the 
atoms are fluctuating , and if the time step was 0.002psec or even 0.001 
psec the system was very un-robust and the simulation explodes. (that is 
my main concern and the reason for my previous post)
 
do you think bond type 6 will settle this?
 


Not likely.  If your system is blowing up that means there is something 
physically unrealistic about it (insufficient EM or equilibration, inappropriate 
parameters or .mdp settings, etc).  There's tons of useful information on the 
Gromacs site and in the list archive to help you.  Otherwise you'll have to 
provide substantially more information regarding all the points I raised above 
to get any useful advice.


-Justin


anyway, thanks a lot for the quick reply!
Amir

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




Amir Marcovitz wrote:

Hi,
 i'm simulating a surface in water and ions which is composed of
6X6 Carbon atoms arranged on a 2-d lattice. (using ffamber99)
i want to keep the spacing between C-C neighbouring atoms at
0.34 Angstrom (or some other spacing of choice..), and to
maintain the surface rigid and planar
 for that i added to the [  bonds ] section at the topology file
c0 values and force constants as following:
 [ bonds ]
;  aiaj functc0c1c2
   c3

   1 2 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
   1 7 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
   2 3 1  3.40e-01 3.744680e+05
..
and so on..
 and similarly  added 90 and 180 degrees bond angle constrains
between triads of atoms in the surface according to their location.
 the thing is , i'm affraid my constraint of c0 of 3.4 Angst. is
in some conflict with the definition of C-C bond length which is
defined somewhere in the amber files (if i'm turning the
constraint on co off the atoms approach each other and the
spacing is lost)
 my questions are:
a) do you think i should define a new dummy atom? and in which
files should it be done? - i'm asking because i didn't find a
clear answer in the manual
b) is there any other bond function  (what number?) which may
ignore the definition of the C-C length and treat only the c0
constraint?


Two options I can think of:

1. Why not position restrain your carbon lattices to parallel planes?
2. Use bond type 6 to define a harmonic potential between the atoms
you want to restrain.  If the two lattices are part of the same
molecultype definition (unclear from your post), then you can use
distance restraints.  If they are separate molecules, however, you
can't, and hence why bond type 6 is a viable option.

-Justin


 if someone can answer or guide me to relevant sections in the
manual i'll be most thankful!
amir
  



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[gmx-users] ATP for

2010-02-04 Thread Chandan Choudhury
Hello gmx users,
I need to use ATP's parameter for amber port in gromacs. The atp.prep and
frcmod.phos for ATP can be found at
http://www.pharmacy.manchester.ac.uk/bryce/amber. How can I use it in
ffamber.

The program amb2gmx.pl needs amber to be installed, which is not present.
Same with ACPYPI.

Any suggestion will be very helpful.

Chandan


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