[gmx-users] Removing water from a trajectory

2010-07-14 Thread Anirban Ghosh
Hi ALL,

I have a system consisting of protein+lipid+ligand+water which has been
simulated for 10 ns. Now I want to make a compressed trajectory from the
original one by keeping only the protein and the ligand. I am trying to do
so by using trjconv with an index file. But every time trjconv is showing
the default options and I am not able to select the protein and the ligand
simultaneously to generate the output. How can I do this? Any suggestion is
welcome.
Thanks a lot in advance.


Regards,

Anirban
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Re: [gmx-users] Removing water from a trajectory

2010-07-14 Thread Mark Abraham

On 14/07/2010 4:54 PM, Anirban Ghosh wrote:

Hi ALL,

I have a system consisting of protein+lipid+ligand+water which has 
been simulated for 10 ns. Now I want to make a compressed trajectory 
from the original one by keeping only the protein and the ligand. I am 
trying to do so by using trjconv with an index file. But every time 
trjconv is showing the default options and I am not able to select the 
protein and the ligand simultaneously to generate the output. How can 
I do this?


You need to make an index file with a suitable group, and supply that to 
trjconv with -n, rather than relying on the auto-generated defaults. See 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/Index_File and its links.


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Removing water from a trajectory

2010-07-14 Thread shayamra

You should include
-n
at the end of you trjconv command-line. This tells trjconv to show  
options from index.ndx.


Regards,
-Shay

Quoting Anirban Ghosh reach.anirban.gh...@gmail.com:


Hi ALL,

I have a system consisting of protein+lipid+ligand+water which has been
simulated for 10 ns. Now I want to make a compressed trajectory from the
original one by keeping only the protein and the ligand. I am trying to do
so by using trjconv with an index file. But every time trjconv is showing
the default options and I am not able to select the protein and the ligand
simultaneously to generate the output. How can I do this? Any suggestion is
welcome.
Thanks a lot in advance.


Regards,

Anirban





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Re: [gmx-users] g_cluster Jarvis-Patrick

2010-07-14 Thread Ran Friedman
Hi,

The nearest neighbours are defined according to RMSD between the
structures. If M=10, a new conformation x is added to a given cluster
when a conformation y in the cluster exists such that:
(1) x and y are neighbours, i.e., x has y among the 10 conformations
with minimal RMSD to x and vice versa for y.
(2) x any y have at least P (default: 3) neighbours in common.

You may want to prepare a diagram to graphically illustrate this.

Ran

Marc Charendoff wrote:
 Hello,
  
  In the Jarvis-Patrick method g_cluster shows that when M=0, the
 cutoff is used to determine nearest neighbors (those within X.X nm).
 In the absence of cutoff - e.g. M is defaulted to 10, how are nearest
 neighbors determined? What does M=10 (or anyother number) mean?
  
 Thanks, Marc

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[gmx-users] version 4 pdb2gmx with ffamber broken on Mac?

2010-07-14 Thread Daniel Ensign
While trying to get the gro and topology on a Mac using GMX v. 4.0.5 or
4.0.7, I get from running pdb2gmx -f myfile.pdb -ff amber03 -ignh

WARNING: atom H is missing in residue ALA 2 in the pdb file
 You might need to add atom H to the hydrogen database of
 residue ALA in the file ff???.hdb (see the manual)

This effect appears even after tricks like deleting ALA 2, putting an H
atom in manually, among other things.

Things that work:
1. Same command works on Linux using GMX 4.0.5
2. Same command works on Mac using GMX 3.3.1
3. Same command works if I use OPLS/AA-L rather than ffamber03

To reiterate, things that don't work:
1. Command gives the above WARNING on Mac using GMX 4.0.5 and 4.0.7
2. Command gives the above WARNING on Mac using GMX 4.0.5 using
ffamber99sb

I did not test any other platforms or force fields.

Please let me know if contacting the Master and Commander of ffamber
directly rather than bothering you folks.

Thanks,
Dan

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Re: [gmx-users] version 4 pdb2gmx with ffamber broken on Mac?

2010-07-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul


Daniel Ensign wrote:

While trying to get the gro and topology on a Mac using GMX v. 4.0.5 or
4.0.7, I get from running pdb2gmx -f myfile.pdb -ff amber03 -ignh

WARNING: atom H is missing in residue ALA 2 in the pdb file
 You might need to add atom H to the hydrogen database of
 residue ALA in the file ff???.hdb (see the manual)

This effect appears even after tricks like deleting ALA 2, putting an H
atom in manually, among other things.

Things that work:
1. Same command works on Linux using GMX 4.0.5
2. Same command works on Mac using GMX 3.3.1
3. Same command works if I use OPLS/AA-L rather than ffamber03

To reiterate, things that don't work:
1. Command gives the above WARNING on Mac using GMX 4.0.5 and 4.0.7
2. Command gives the above WARNING on Mac using GMX 4.0.5 using
ffamber99sb

I did not test any other platforms or force fields.

Please let me know if contacting the Master and Commander of ffamber
directly rather than bothering you folks.



Are you using the correct nomenclature for the terminal residues?  I know I've 
seen this happen if the first residue is not appropriately named NXXX.  Point #2 
below:


http://ffamber.cnsm.csulb.edu/#usage

-Justin


Thanks,
Dan



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[gmx-users] version 4 pdb2gmx with ffamber broken on Mac?

2010-07-14 Thread Daniel Ensign
Justin wrote:

Are you using the correct nomenclature for the terminal residues?  I
know I've seen this happen if the first residue is not appropriately
named NXXX.  Point #2 below:

http://ffamber.cnsm.csulb.edu/#usage

-Justin

No, I've got the right residue nomenclature. 

The problem was that I was using the wrong aminoacids.dat. We're using
a modified version of ffamber03, and a peculiar dolt (me) neglected to
fully install the ffamberXX files ... like the modified aminoacids.dat.

Thanks,
Dan


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[gmx-users] NPT for compressing the system

2010-07-14 Thread Moeed
Hello,

Thanks for your reply. As for the simulation box, I did not change anything
and I am still saying that I am having a cubic box of size 30nm. When I view
the molecule in ngmx I see the cubic box.. no problem with that. What I was
referring to was the option on menu bar where one can select type of box to
view the trajecotry and using say triclinic box I see chain fits better
(almost completely)in the box while in the case of cubic (which is my real
box) I see molecules is not fitted completely inside the box.. I was just
asking why is this happening. as you said none of that probably means
anything .  I think also it is unnecessary for now so please dont get
confused.

As you requested I am including ALL the commands I used from the very
beginning starting from replicating a 4C unit.

editconf -f Eth4C.pdb -o Eth4C-d.gro -princ -d 0.058 -bt cubic
editconf -f Eth4C-d.gro -o Eth4C-d-index.gro -n index.ndx -princ
genconf -f Eth4C-d-index.gro -o Eth4C-d-index-rep30.gro -nbox 30 1 1
now I have PE chain of 60 units.

using proper rtp and hdb files:
pdb2gmx -f
Eth4C-d-index-rep30-res.gro -o Eth4C-d-index-rep30-res-pdb2.gro -p
Eth4C-d-index-rep30-res-pdb2.top -ff oplsaa  output.pdb2gmx

Then I EM this last gro file but since dimensions are 15 * 0.5 0.5 nm
I am getting the error message :

The cut-off length is
longer than half the shortest box vector or longer than the smallest
box diagonal element. Increase the box size or decrease rlist.
then increased the size 

editconf -f Eth4C-d-index-rep30-res-pdb2.gro -o
Eth4C-d-index-rep30-res-pdb2-boxsize30.gro -box 30 30 30 -angles 90 90
90

Then I EM the molecule with new box size 30nm and call this energy
minimized structure PE60.gro. Now I want to replicate this chain.
density demands 1 molecule in 5.76 nm3. As you said I forgot the
density for a moment and took a large box.

PE60 is already in a large enough box (30nm). this is all I did before
doing any NPT.

As for compressing the system to get more realistic structure and
approaching the density I am after, I did several NPT runs. All show
system is not equilbrated and they all crash and box does not become
smaller than 2.2 nm.

As you proposed I tried doing runs in stepwise manner. Below you see my trails:

First trial :P 120 bar for 100 ps then P80 bar for 500 ps then P50 for
500 ps. this last run crashes at 2.2 nm size

As Mark suggested I tried started with lower pressure:

Second trail: P 50 for 500ps  P40 bar for 500 ps  P35 for 1000ps 
P30 for 1000 ps . Below is the results of this last run. before I had
negative average Pressure but below the pressure is 30bar and real
values fluctuate between -500 to 500 bar.
T thermostat is working fine but LJ Columb terms not reaching
equilibrium. Also box size is 2.7 nm which is larger than former
trials.Molecule in not inside the box for almost the entire
simulation.Only a small portion in inside and since it is long can not
fit in.

Do i need to start with lower pressures and go to higher values.
Because the size is not changing that much with 30 bar?

Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift  Tot-Drift
---
Angle   736.58230.054330.0543 -9.65991e-05
-0.0965993
Ryckaert-Bell.  147.60313.522613.5185 -0.00115216   -1.15216
LJ-14   153.9266.021256.02079 0.000258266   0.258266
Coulomb-14 -106.1411.909861.90613 0.00041316   0.413161
LJ (SR)-354.89215.504715.4964 -0.00176674   -1.76675
Coulomb (SR)217.5292.63621 2.6302 -0.000615852
 -0.615853
Potential   794.60737.486237.4764 -0.00295993   -2.95994
Kinetic En.  899.8830.645430.6399 0.002015242.01525
Total Energy1694.4918.707118.7051 -0.000944686
 -0.944688
Temperature 299.80610.209910.2081 0.000671404   0.671405
Pressure (bar)  30.0416 269.98269.948  0.014565214.5652
Cons. rmsd ()5.11735e-06 3.49122e-07 3.49102e-07
1.29073e-11 1.29073e-08
Box-X   2.79128 0.00907586 0.00906645 1.43079e-06 0.00143079
Box-Y   2.79128 0.00907586 0.00906645 1.43079e-06 0.00143079
Box-Z   2.79128 0.00907586 0.00906645 1.43079e-06 0.00143079
Density (SI)128.686 1.26011.25879 -0.000199256
 -0.199256
pV  39.3202353.469353.428  0.018801418.8014
Vir-XX  327.606298.203298.201 -0.00356238   -3.56239
Mu-X  -0.028926   0.3043560.30434 -1.08836e-05
-0.0108837
Lamb-System 1.2 0.000368363 0.000368248
-3.18082e-08 -3.18083e-05
Heat Capacity Cv:  12.4935 J/mol K (factor = 0.00115974)

***

itle   

Re: [gmx-users] NPT for compressing the system

2010-07-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Moeed wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for your reply. As for the simulation box, I did not change 
anything and I am still saying that I am having a cubic box of size 
30nm. When I view the molecule in ngmx I see the cubic box.. no problem 
with that. What I was referring to was the option on menu bar where one 
can select type of box to view the trajecotry and using say triclinic 
box I see chain fits better (almost completely)in the box while in the 
case of cubic (which is my real box) I see molecules is not fitted 
completely inside the box.. I was just asking why is this happening. as 
you said none of that probably means anything .  I think also it is 
unnecessary for now so please dont get confused.




As I suspected.  If you have a cubic box, you can certainly change a 
representation in any way you want, but it is meaningless.  You've got a cube, 
plain and simple.


As you requested I am including ALL the commands I used from the very 
beginning starting from replicating a 4C unit.


editconf -f Eth4C.pdb -o Eth4C-d.gro -princ -d 0.058 -bt cubic
editconf -f Eth4C-d.gro -o Eth4C-d-index.gro -n index.ndx -princ
genconf -f Eth4C-d-index.gro -o Eth4C-d-index-rep30.gro -nbox 30 1 1  now I 
have PE chain of 60 units.

using proper rtp and hdb files:
pdb2gmx -f
Eth4C-d-index-rep30-res.gro -o Eth4C-d-index-rep30-res-pdb2.gro -p
Eth4C-d-index-rep30-res-pdb2.top -ff oplsaa  output.pdb2gmx

Then I EM this last gro file but since dimensions are 15 * 0.5 0.5 nm I 
am getting the error message :




The cut-off length is
longer than half the shortest box vector or longer than the smallest
box diagonal element. Increase the box size or decrease rlist.

then increased the size 

editconf -f Eth4C-d-index-rep30-res-pdb2.gro -o 
Eth4C-d-index-rep30-res-pdb2-boxsize30.gro -box 30 30 30 -angles 90 90 90

Then I EM the molecule with new box size 30nm and call this energy minimized 
structure PE60.gro. Now I want to replicate this chain. density demands 1 
molecule in 5.76 nm3. As you said I forgot the density for a moment and took a 
large box.


PE60 is already in a large enough box (30nm). this is all I did before doing 
any NPT.

As for compressing the system to get more realistic structure and approaching 
the density I am after, I did several NPT runs. All show system is not 
equilbrated and they all crash and box does not become smaller than 2.2 nm.


As you proposed I tried doing runs in stepwise manner. Below you see my trails:

First trial :P 120 bar for 100 ps then P80 bar for 500 ps then P50 for 500 ps. 
this last run crashes at 2.2 nm size

As Mark suggested I tried started with lower pressure:


Second trail: P 50 for 500ps  P40 bar for 500 ps  P35 for 1000ps  P30 for 1000 ps . Below is the results of this last run. before I had negative average Pressure but below the pressure is 30bar and real values fluctuate between -500 to 500 bar. 


T thermostat is working fine but LJ Columb terms not reaching equilibrium. Also 
box size is 2.7 nm which is larger than former trials.Molecule in not inside 
the box for almost the entire simulation.Only a small portion in inside and 
since it is long can not fit in.



Understand that inside and outside are completely meaningless terms when 
using periodic boundary conditions.


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions

More problematic is if the molecule is so poorly oriented that it is interacting 
with itself through PBC, leading to spurious forces.  The only way for anyone to 
help you better is probably through posting images.  If you wish to do this, 
please follow the guidelines listed below (point number 3).


http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists#Mailing_List_Etiquette



Do i need to start with lower pressures and go to higher values. Because the 
size is not changing that much with 30 bar?



It seems to me that you may have found a stable state, but perhaps the 
configurations you're getting aren't appropriate (see above).  Hard to say at 
this point.


A different approach might be to simulate for a while first under NVT 
conditions, allowing your PE to collapse in on itself without the box quickly 
compressing around it.  Then try your compression scheme on the structure that 
results from NVT.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] position restrain file

2010-07-14 Thread Ping
Hi all,

Does anyone know how to mannually make a position restrain file? There is a
protein and a dendrimer in my system. And I want
the protein to be the reference group.

Thank you in advance.
Xiuping
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Re: [gmx-users] position restrain file

2010-07-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Ping wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know how to mannually make a position restrain file? There 
is a protein and a dendrimer in my system. And I want

the protein to be the reference group.


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Gromacs_Utilities/genrestr

-Justin



Thank you in advance.
Xiuping



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[gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-07-14 Thread munubas
Hi
How do I built the terminals of a peptide withe ACE and NHMe i.e.CH3CO and 
NHCH3 respectively. please suggest.  My sequence is -Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-
M. Baskar.



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Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-07-14 Thread David van der Spoel

On 7/14/10 9:44 PM, munu...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi
How do I built the terminals of a peptide withe ACE and NHMe i.e.CH3CO and 
NHCH3 respectively. please suggest.  My sequence is -Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-
M. Baskar.



just add an extra residue (e.g. gly or ala) at eeither end using pymol 
or so, and then rename them in a text editor and throw away superfluous 
atoms.


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Re: [gmx-users] (no subject)

2010-07-14 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



munu...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi
How do I built the terminals of a peptide withe ACE and NHMe i.e.CH3CO and 
NHCH3 respectively. please suggest.  My sequence is -Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-Q-
M. Baskar.



http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/File_Formats/Coordinate_File#Sources

Note the last bullet point.

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[gmx-users] Phonon calculations in periodic crystals

2010-07-14 Thread Anne Kelley
I am trying to use GROMACS to calculate the phonons (normal modes) of a bulk 
crystal, CdSe.  I have found a simple force field, Coulomb + Lennard-Jones, in 
the literature (Rabani, J. Chem. Phys. 116, 258, 2002) which the author showed 
reproduced the phonon dispersion curves and other mechanical properties of bulk 
wurtzite CdSe quite well.  A number of other workers have used this force field 
in molecular dynamics simulations.  But when I use Rabani's force field with 
GROMACS I get phonon frequencies that are much too high, up to about 2.2 times 
the experimental ones.

I am doing all of my calculations with the double precision version of GROMACS. 
 I have made a .top file for CdSe using Rabani's Lennard-Jones parameters and 
ionic charges, and a .gro file containing an integer number of unit cells with 
the known lattice constants.  I first do an energy minimization until the 
maximum forces are around 1.e-4, and get the right crystal structure and 
lattice constants.  I am using periodic boundary conditions with PME.  I then 
use the nm integrator (with the -t option to read in the more precise .trr 
structure file) to calculate the Hessian, and then the g_nmeig_d program to 
diagonalize the Hessian and get the normal modes.  This all seems to work fine, 
but I don't get the literature values for the frequencies (calculated maximum 
about 450 cm-1, literature and experimental about 215 cm-1).  I have checked 
that when I enter the correct masses and known harmonic force constant for the 
H2 molecule, I get back the right vibrational frequency.  I have tried changing 
the size of the system (5, 7, or 9 unit cells in each direction) and it has 
almost no effect on the frequencies.  I have tried things like changing the 
Coulomb and Lennard-Jones cutoffs, and even tried regular Ewald rather than PME 
(which took a very long time), but these had no significant effect on my 
results.  I also tried calculating the phonon spectrum for a different 
material, AgBr, using a Coulomb + Buckingham potential from the literature (J. 
Phys. Chem. 99, 14344, 1995).  This gave me a better result, but still the 
distribution of frequencies is not correct and the maximum phonon frequency is 
about 15% higher than what the authors got with the same force field.

Are you aware of any issues with GROMACS in doing normal mode calculations on 
periodic systems?  Can you suggest any likely things I'm doing wrong?

Anne Kelley

Anne Myers Kelley
Professor of Chemistry, School of Natural Sciences
Secretary-Treasurer, APS Division of Laser Science
University of California, Merced
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: MD run for octanol system

2010-07-14 Thread vivek sharma
Hi Esteban and Vitaly,
Thanks for your respose, I tried trjconv with -pbc mol while generating
movie and it worked this time.

regards,
vivek

On 12 July 2010 16:01, Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm... Straight lines... Is it VMD that your used to visualize the
 trajectory?

 I think this is just due to PBC. Compute some RDFs and they will give
 you an answer if your system is healthy.

 Dr. Vitaly Chaban



  I am trying to run MD simulation for octanol using GROMACS, I have
  downloaded the octanol.tar.gz from the user contributed section
  http://www.gromacs.org/@api/deki/files/18/=octanol.tar.gz.
  When I performed this MD run according to the run input file and molecule
  topology provided in this download, I observed straight lines in the
 system
  while visualizing the trajectory. Can anybody suggest if there is any
  problems in the run parameters provided or it is some mistake at my part
 ?
  As a first thought It seems like a boundary condition problem to me. Any
  insight into this will be really helpful for me.
  Is there any other source for getting required information for octanol.
  My final target is to run MD in water/octanol box. Please guide me with
 dos
  and donts, If anybody has attempted for the same.
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