Re: [gmx-users] using recolor.sh to color the xpm matrix files produced by r_rms and g_mdmat

2010-12-16 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Hassan,

It seems the scripting language of the Gimp has changed a bit since
the version I used at the time of writing that script. The Gimp is
also only used for conversion of the xpm to png, which it did better
than convert. The important parts for recoloring are the lines using
convert, first generating a gradient, then applying that gradient on a
grayscale image. Try to find another way to convert xpm  to png (or
another lossless format), and modify the script to your needs.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Hassan Shallal hshal...@pacific.edu wrote:
 Dear Gromacs users,

 I have been trying to use the recolor.sh mentioned in this wbsite 
 http://nmr.chem.uu.nl/~tsjerk/course/molmod/analysis1.html 
 http://nmr.chem.uu.nl/~tsjerk/course/molmod/analysis1.html
 to reclor an xpm file called rmsd-matrix.xpm file, whenever I issue the 
 command recolor.sh rmsd-matrix.xpm, I get the following error message:

 #$ hassan~ $./recolor.sh rmsd-matrix.xpm
 GIMP-Error: Opening '/home/hshallal/(gimp-file-save 1 1 2 ./rmsd-matrix.png 
 ./rmsd-matrix.png)' failed: No such file or directory
 GIMP-Error: Opening '/home/hshallal/(gimp-quit 0)' failed: No such file or 
 directory
 batch command: executed successfully

 It seems like a problem with gimp not being able to process as stated in the 
 script, especially with the argument of (gimp-file-save 1 1 2 \$png\ 
 \$png\) (look below for the contents of the script).

 I have gimp confidured in my system. has anyone ran across the same problem 
 or can know what the problem is and what th solution might be?

 Thanks in advance

 Hassan

 The contents of the recolor.sh file:

 #!/bin/sh

 xpm=$1
 png=`dirname $xpm`/`basename $xpm .xpm`.png
 convert xc:red xc:orange xc:yellow xc:green1 xc:cyan xc:blue xc:magenta \
          +append -filter Cubic -resize 600x30\! -rotate 90 
 gradient_rainbow.jpg
 #convert -size 1x600 xc:'#0C0' -colorspace HSB \
 #          gradient: -compose CopyRed -composite \
 #          -colorspace RGB gradient_rainbow.jpg
 gimp -d -f -i -b (gimp-file-load 1 \$xpm\ \$xpm\) (gimp-file-save 1 1 
 2 \$png\ \$png\) (gimp-quit 0)
 convert $png gradient_rainbow.jpg -virtual-pixel edge -fx 'v.p{0,u*v.h}' $png


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[gmx-users] different output generated by continue and discontinue simulation

2010-12-16 Thread Hsin-Lin Chiang
Hi,

My gromacs version is 4.0.5.
I used grompp to generate tpr for 1ps simulation in this way
grompp -f md1.mdp -n index.ndx#160; -p topol.top -c 0ps.gro#160; -t 0ps.trr 
-o 1ps.tpr
mdrun -s 1ps.tpr -e 1ps.edr -o 1ps.trr -g 1ps.log -c 1ps.gro
Here is my md1.mdp file:
;
title#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; = ttt
cpp#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; /lib/cpp
constraints#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; hbonds
;define#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; -DFLEX_SPC
integrator#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; md
emtol#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 100.0
emstep#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.005
dt#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.002#160;#160;#160; ; ps !
nsteps#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 500#160; ; total 1 ps
nstcomm#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 500
nstxout#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 500
nstvout#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 500
nstfout#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 500
nstlog#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 500
nstenergy#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 
500
nstlist#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 5
ns_type#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; grid
rlist#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 1.
rcoulomb#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 1.
rvdw#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 1.
coulombtype#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; PME
fourierspacing#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 0.12
pme_order#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 4
optimize_fft#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; yes
Tcoupl#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; v-rescale
tc-grps#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; A-chain B-chain drug SOL#160; NA+
;tau_t#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.1#160; 0.1
tau_t#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.2#160; 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2
ref_t#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 300.00 300.00 300.00 300.00 300.00
energygrps#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 
A-chain B-chain drug SOL#160; NA+
Pcoupl#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; berendsen
Pcoupltype#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 
isotropic
;tau_p#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.1
tau_p#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.25
compressibility#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 5.4e-5
ref_p#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 1.0
gen_vel#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; yes
gen_temp#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 300.00
gen_seed#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 173531

--
Then I execute below loop in other 5 times for the totaly 60ns trajectories.
grompp -f md2.mdp -n index.ndx#160; -p topol.top -c ${n-1}ps.gro#160; -t 
${n-1}ps.trr -o ${n}ps.tpr
mdrun -s ${n}ps.tpr -e ${n}ps.edr -o ${n}ps.trr -g ${n}ps.log -c ${n}ps.gro
The file md2.mdp is almost the same as md1.mdp but the parameter gen_vel=no.
Here ${n-1}ps.gro and ${n-1}.trr mean I use last time frame trajectory to 
continue.(I didn't really use this commend $(n-1) in bash script, it won't 
work.)

I change the other way to run parallel simulation on the same system for double 
check since above script is difficult to parallelize in public computer.
The new method is:
grompp -f md60ns.mdp -n index.ndx#160; -p topol.top -c 0ps.gro#160; -t 
0ps.trr -o 60ns.tpr
mpiexec -np 8 mdrun_mpi -s 60ns.tpr -e 60ns.edr -o 60ns.trr -g 60ns.log -c 
60ns.gro
The only different between md1.mdp and md60ns.mdp is nstep=3000 in 
md60ns.mdp.

Theses two data generated by different ways are totaly different.
Here I mean different is not on the number buy mean the tendency of figure.
In the movie of first method, protein runs violently and go outside the 
periodic boundary and then split by cubic edge.
The interaction energy within protein also fluctuate in an unstable way.

On the contrary, the second method generate a stable movie and fluctuation of 
interaction energy.
Theotically these two should be the 

[gmx-users] different output generated by continue and discontinue simulation

2010-12-16 Thread Hsin-Lin Chiang
Sorry for the abnormal code. 
I have fixed that.
---
Hi,

My gromacs version is 4.0.5. 
I used grompp to generate tpr for 1ps simulation in this way 
grompp -f md1.mdp -n index.ndx#160; -p topol.top -c 0ps.gro#160; -t 0ps.trr 
-o 1ps.tpr 
mdrun -s 1ps.tpr -e 1ps.edr -o 1ps.trr -g 1ps.log -c 1ps.gro 
Here is my md1.mdp file: 
; 
title#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; = ttt 
cpp#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; /lib/cpp 
constraints#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; hbonds 
;define#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; -DFLEX_SPC 
integrator#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; md 
emtol#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 100.0 
emstep#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.005 
dt#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.002#160;#160;#160; ; ps ! 
nsteps#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 500#160; ; total 1 ps 
nstcomm#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 500 
nstxout#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 500 
nstvout#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 500 
nstfout#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 500 
nstlog#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 500 
nstenergy#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 
500 
nstlist#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 5 
ns_type#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; grid 
rlist#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 1. 
rcoulomb#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 1. 
rvdw#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 1. 
coulombtype#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; PME 
fourierspacing#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 0.12 
pme_order#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 4 
optimize_fft#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; yes 
Tcoupl#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; v-rescale 
tc-grps#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; A-chain B-chain drug SOL#160; NA+ 
;tau_t#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.1#160; 0.1 
tau_t#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.2#160; 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2 
ref_t#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 300.00 300.00 300.00 300.00 300.00 
energygrps#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 
A-chain B-chain drug SOL#160; NA+ 
Pcoupl#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; berendsen 
Pcoupltype#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 
isotropic 
;tau_p#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.1 
tau_p#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 0.25 
compressibility#160;#160;#160;#160; =#160; 5.4e-5 
ref_p#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
 =#160; 1.0 
gen_vel#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; yes 
gen_temp#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 300.00 
gen_seed#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 173531

-- 
Then I execute below loop in other 5 times for the totaly 60ns 
trajectories. 
grompp -f md2.mdp -n index.ndx#160; -p topol.top -c ${n-1}ps.gro#160; -t 
${n-1}ps.trr -o ${n}ps.tpr 
mdrun -s ${n}ps.tpr -e ${n}ps.edr -o ${n}ps.trr -g ${n}ps.log -c ${n}ps.gro 
The file md2.mdp is almost the same as md1.mdp but the parameter gen_vel=no. 
Here ${n-1}ps.gro and ${n-1}.trr mean I use last time frame trajectory to 
continue.(I didn't really use this commend $(n-1) in bash script, it won't 
work.)

I change the other way to run parallel simulation on the same system fordouble 
check since above script is difficult to parallelize in public computer. 
The new method is: 
grompp -f md60ns.mdp -n index.ndx#160; -p topol.top -c 0ps.gro#160; -t 
0ps.trr -o 60ns.tpr 
mpiexec -np 8 mdrun_mpi -s 60ns.tpr -e 60ns.edr -o 60ns.trr -g 60ns.log -c 
60ns.gro 
The only different between md1.mdp and md60ns.mdp is nstep=3000 in 
md60ns.mdp.

Theses two data generated by different ways are totaly different. 
Here I mean different is not on the number buy mean the tendency of figure. 
In the movie of first method, protein runs violently and go outside the 
periodic boundary and then split by cubic edge. 
The interaction energy within protein also fluctuate in an unstable way.

On the contrary, the second 

[gmx-users] water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread gromacs
Hi,

I want to simulate 3x3x0.8 water film (bulk water) first creat the water,

genbox -cs -o film.gro -box 3 3 0.8

then, i EM the bulk water;

Using steep, but

t = 0.011 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 298 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates


then i run, and i get the result. I use NPT, and T=300K. I run several times, 
but the final T was still 411K.

 

So what could i do to get EM process successful?

And what is the reason ? why i can not control the T 300K?

 

Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift  Tot-Drift
---
Potential  -9496.38136.145135.455  -0.158085   -47.4256
Kinetic En.  2358.273.587673.5471 -0.0281891   -8.45676
Total Energy   -7138.19136.284135.326  -0.186274   -55.8824
Temperature 411.94512.854812.8477 -0.00492426   -1.47728
Pressure (bar) -1.66406704.355704.355 -0.00424907   -1.27473
Box-X   2.91791  0.0128965  0.0128789 -7.7826e-06 
-0.00233479
Box-Y   2.91791  0.0128965  0.0128789 -7.7826e-06 
-0.00233479
Box-Z  0.778108 0.00343907 0.00343437 -2.07536e-06 
-0.000622609
Density (SI) 1038.713.616513.5998 0.007785132.33555
Heat Capacity Cv:12.49 J/mol K (factor = 0.000973754)


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[gmx-users] different output generated by continue and discontinue simulation

2010-12-16 Thread Hsin-Lin Chiang
Sorry for the abnormal code. 
I have fixed that.
---
Hi,

My gromacs version is 4.0.5. 
I used grompp to generate tpr for 1ps simulation in this way 
grompp -f md1.mdp -n index.ndx#160; -p topol.top -c 0ps.gro#160; -t 0ps.trr 
-o 1ps.tpr 
mdrun -s 1ps.tpr -e 1ps.edr -o 1ps.trr -g 1ps.log -c 1ps.gro 
Here is my md1.mdp file: 
;
title = ttt
cpp = /lib/cpp #160; 
constraints = hbons 
;define = -DFLEX_SPC #160; 
integrator = md#160; 
emtol = 100.0
emstep = 0.005#160; 
dt = 0.002 ; ps! 
nsteps = 500 ; total 1ps 
nstcomm = 500 #160; 
ntsxout = 500 #160; 
ntsvout = 500#160; 
ntsfout = 500 #160; 
ntslog = 500#160; 
nstenergy = 500 
nstlist = 5#160; #160; 
ns_type = grid #160; 
rlist = 1.
rcoulomb = 1.
rvdw = 1. 
coulombtype = PME
fourierspacing = 0.12 
pme_order = 4 
optimize_fft = yes
Tcoupl = v-rescale
rc-grps = A-chain B-chain drug SOL NA+
;tau_t = 0.1 0.1 
tau_t =0.2 0.2 0.2 0.2
ref_t = 300.00 300.00 300.00 300.0 300.00
energygrps = A-chain B-chain druhg SOL NA+
Pcoupl = berendsen 
Pcoupltype = isotropic
;tau_p = 0.1
tau_p = 0.25
compressibility = 5.4e-5
ref_p = 1.0
gen_vel = yes
gen_temp = 300.00
gen_seed = 173531 
gen_seed#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160; 
=#160; 173531 
-- 
Then I execute below loop in other 5 times for the totaly 60ns 
trajectories. 
grompp -f md2.mdp -n index.ndx#160; -p topol.top -c ${n-1}ps.gro#160; -t 
${n-1}ps.trr -o ${n}ps.tpr 
mdrun -s ${n}ps.tpr -e ${n}ps.edr -o ${n}ps.trr -g ${n}ps.log -c ${n}ps.gro 
The file md2.mdp is almost the same as md1.mdp but the parameter gen_vel=no. 
Here ${n-1}ps.gro and ${n-1}.trr mean I use last time frame trajectory to 
continue.(I didn't really use this commend $(n-1) in bash script, it won't 
work.)

I change the other way to run parallel simulation on the same system fordouble 
check since above script is difficult to parallelize in public computer. 
The new method is: 
grompp -f md60ns.mdp -n index.ndx#160; -p topol.top -c 0ps.gro#160; -t 
0ps.trr -o 60ns.tpr 
mpiexec -np 8 mdrun_mpi -s 60ns.tpr -e 60ns.edr -o 60ns.trr -g 60ns.log -c 
60ns.gro 
The only different between md1.mdp and md60ns.mdp is nstep=3000 in 
md60ns.mdp.

Theses two data generated by different ways are totaly different. 
Here I mean different is not on the number buy mean the tendency of figure. 
In the movie of first method, protein runs violently and go outside the 
periodic boundary and then split by cubic edge. 
The interaction energy within protein also fluctuate in an unstable way.

On the contrary, the second method generate a stable movie and fluctuation of 
interaction energy. 
Theotically these two should be the same, right? 
Is anything wrong in my work?

Sincerely yours, 
Hsin-Lin 
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Re: [gmx-users] water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread Javier Cerezo
Could you please attach your minimization parameters (mdp file) and 
grompp/mdrun commands?


Your simulation box seems a bit strange for me. If you're using periodic 
boundary conditions you have not a thin film, but an infinite bulk water 
(remember pbc replicate the box in all directions). With such a small Z 
axis you might have probles with the cut-off radius being longer than a 
particle image.


Javier

El 16/12/10 10:38, gromacs escribió:


Hi,

I want to simulate 3x3x0.8 water film (bulk water) first creat the water,

genbox -cs -o film.gro -box 3 3 0.8

then, i EM the bulk water;

Using steep, but

t = 0.011 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 298 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates

then i run, and i get the result. I use NPT, and T=300K. I run several 
times, but the final T was still 411K.


So what could i do to get EM process successful?

And what is the reason ? why i can not control the T 300K?

Energy Average RMSD Fluct. Drift Tot-Drift
---
Potential -9496.38 136.145 135.455 -0.158085 -47.4256
Kinetic En. 2358.2 73.5876 73.5471 -0.0281891 -8.45676
Total Energy -7138.19 136.284 135.326 -0.186274 -55.8824
Temperature 411.945 12.8548 12.8477 -0.00492426 -1.47728
Pressure (bar) -1.66406 704.355 704.355 -0.00424907 -1.27473
Box-X 2.91791 0.0128965 0.0128789 -7.7826e-06 -0.00233479
Box-Y 2.91791 0.0128965 0.0128789 -7.7826e-06 -0.00233479
Box-Z 0.778108 0.00343907 0.00343437 -2.07536e-06 -0.000622609
Density (SI)nbs p; 1038.7 13.6165 13.5998 0.00778513 2.33555
Heat Capacity Cv: 12.49 J/mol K (factor = 0.000973754)





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Re: [gmx-users] water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Abraham


On 12/16/10, Javier Cerezo  j...@um.es wrote:
 Could you please attach your minimization parameters (mdp file) and 
 grompp/mdrun commands?
 
 Your simulation box seems a bit strange for me. If you're using periodic 
 boundary conditions you have not a thin film, but an infinite bulk water 
 (remember pbc replicate the box in all directions). With such a small Z axis 
 you might have probles with the cut-off radius being longer than a particle 
 image.
 

GROMACS enforces the minimum-image convention, so we can deduce that that 
rcoulomb was unreasonably short.


 El 16/12/10 10:38, gromacs escribió:
 
 Hi,
 
 I want to simulate 3x3x0.8 water film (bulk water) first creat the water,
 
 genbox -cs -o film.gro -box 3 3 0.8
 
 then, i EM the bulk water;
 
 Using steep, but
 
 t = 0.011 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 298 can not be settled.
 Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.
 Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
 
Here's the first hint something is wrong. Don't ignore it and plow on!

 
 
 then i run, and i get the result. I use NPT, and T=300K. I run several 
 times, but the final T was still 411K.
 
 So what could i do to get EM process successful?
 
 And what is the reason ? why i can not control the T 300K?
 

Over what timescale did you equilibrate? Over what *separate* timescale did you 
observe?

Mark

 
 
 Energy Average RMSD Fluct. Drift Tot-Drift
 ---
 Potential -9496.38 136.145 135.455 -0.158085 -47.4256
 Kinetic En. 2358.2 73.5876 73.5471 -0.0281891 -8.45676
 Total Energy -7138.19 136.284 135.326 -0.186274 -55.8824
 Temperature 411.945 12.8548 12.8477 -0.00492426 -1.47728
 Pressure (bar) -1.66406 704.355 704.355 -0.00424907 -1.27473
 Box-X 2.91791 0.0128965 0.0128789 -7.7826e-06 -0.00233479
 Box-Y 2.91791 0.0128965 0.0128789 -7.7826e-06 -0.00233479
 Box-Z 0.778108 0.00343907 0.00343437 -2.07536e-06 -0.000622609
 Density (SI)nbs p; 1038.7 13.6165 13.5998 0.00778513 2.33555
 Heat Capacity Cv: 12.49 J/mol K (factor = 0.000973754)
 
 
 
 
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RE: [gmx-users] pullx.xvg / pullf.xvg

2010-12-16 Thread Poojari, Chetan
Hi,

Following were the commands which i used in the umbrella sampling simulations:

grompp -f md_umbrella.mdp -c conf500.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o 
umbrella500.tpr

mdrun -v -deffnm umbrella500


Output:umbrella500.xvg, umbrella500.xtc, umbrella500.trr, umbrella500.log, 
umbrella500.gro, umbrella500.edr, umbrella500.cpt


pullf.xvg and pullx.xvg files were not produced.


Please can I know should i mention -px  pullx.xvg  and  -pf  pullf.xvg in the 
mdrun?


Kind regards,
chetan



From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf 
Of chris.ne...@utoronto.ca [chris.ne...@utoronto.ca]
Sent: 15 December 2010 17:00
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: [gmx-users] pullx.xvg / pullf.xvg

please copy and paste your commands your output. It is unlikely that
any of us are going to do that tutorial in order to understand your
question.

-- original message --

Hi,

I am following the umbrella sampling tutorial written by Justin Lemkul.

I was successfully able to run the umbrella sampling simulations, but
for each configuration it outputted a single xvg file.

For the data analysis i should have pullf.xvg / pullx.xvg filesbut
these files are not outputted after the simulation run.

I haven't made any changes to the .mdp files mentioned in the tutorial.


Please can i know what might have gone wrong that it has not produced
pullf.xvg and pullx.xvg files.



Kind regards,
chetan.


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Re: [gmx-users] pullx.xvg / pullf.xvg

2010-12-16 Thread Carsten Kutzner
On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Poojari, Chetan wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Following were the commands which i used in the umbrella sampling simulations:
 
 grompp -f md_umbrella.mdp -c conf500.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o 
 umbrella500.tpr
 
 mdrun -v -deffnm umbrella500
 
 
 Output:umbrella500.xvg, umbrella500.xtc, umbrella500.trr, 
 umbrella500.log, umbrella500.gro, umbrella500.edr, umbrella500.cpt
 
 
 pullf.xvg and pullx.xvg files were not produced.
With -deffnm you specified a default filename for all output files.
Try to use mdrun -pf pullf.xvg -px pullx.xvg -s input.tpr
Adding -h to mdrun will show you how your output files will be called.

Carsten

 
 
 Please can I know should i mention -px  pullx.xvg  and  -pf  pullf.xvg in the 
 mdrun?
 
 
 Kind regards,
 chetan
 
 
 
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf 
 Of chris.ne...@utoronto.ca [chris.ne...@utoronto.ca]
 Sent: 15 December 2010 17:00
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] pullx.xvg / pullf.xvg
 
 please copy and paste your commands your output. It is unlikely that
 any of us are going to do that tutorial in order to understand your
 question.
 
 -- original message --
 
 Hi,
 
 I am following the umbrella sampling tutorial written by Justin Lemkul.
 
 I was successfully able to run the umbrella sampling simulations, but
 for each configuration it outputted a single xvg file.
 
 For the data analysis i should have pullf.xvg / pullx.xvg filesbut
 these files are not outputted after the simulation run.
 
 I haven't made any changes to the .mdp files mentioned in the tutorial.
 
 
 Please can i know what might have gone wrong that it has not produced
 pullf.xvg and pullx.xvg files.
 
 
 
 Kind regards,
 chetan.
 
 
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RE: [gmx-users] pullx.xvg / pullf.xvg

2010-12-16 Thread Poojari, Chetan
Hi Carsten,

Thank you very much. 

I reran my files:

grompp -f  md_umbrella.mdp  -c conf144.gro  -p topol.top  -n index.ndx  -o 
144.tpr

mdrun -s 144.tpr  -rerun umbrella144.xtc  -e 144.edr  -o 144.trr  -pf pullf.xvg 
 -px pullx.xvg


Output: 144.tpr, 144.trr, 144.edr, pullx.xvg, pullf.xvg.



Kind regards,
chetan.


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Of Carsten Kutzner [ckut...@gwdg.de]
Sent: 16 December 2010 14:28
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pullx.xvg / pullf.xvg

On Dec 16, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Poojari, Chetan wrote:

 Hi,

 Following were the commands which i used in the umbrella sampling simulations:

 grompp -f md_umbrella.mdp -c conf500.gro -p topol.top -n index.ndx -o 
 umbrella500.tpr

 mdrun -v -deffnm umbrella500


 Output:umbrella500.xvg, umbrella500.xtc, umbrella500.trr, 
 umbrella500.log, umbrella500.gro, umbrella500.edr, umbrella500.cpt


 pullf.xvg and pullx.xvg files were not produced.
With -deffnm you specified a default filename for all output files.
Try to use mdrun -pf pullf.xvg -px pullx.xvg -s input.tpr
Adding -h to mdrun will show you how your output files will be called.

Carsten



 Please can I know should i mention -px  pullx.xvg  and  -pf  pullf.xvg in the 
 mdrun?


 Kind regards,
 chetan


 
 From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf 
 Of chris.ne...@utoronto.ca [chris.ne...@utoronto.ca]
 Sent: 15 December 2010 17:00
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] pullx.xvg / pullf.xvg

 please copy and paste your commands your output. It is unlikely that
 any of us are going to do that tutorial in order to understand your
 question.

 -- original message --

 Hi,

 I am following the umbrella sampling tutorial written by Justin Lemkul.

 I was successfully able to run the umbrella sampling simulations, but
 for each configuration it outputted a single xvg file.

 For the data analysis i should have pullf.xvg / pullx.xvg filesbut
 these files are not outputted after the simulation run.

 I haven't made any changes to the .mdp files mentioned in the tutorial.


 Please can i know what might have gone wrong that it has not produced
 pullf.xvg and pullx.xvg files.



 Kind regards,
 chetan.


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[gmx-users] different output generated by continue and discontinue simulation

2010-12-16 Thread Hsin-Lin Chiang
Hi, Mark
  tc-grps#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;#160;
   =#160; A-chain B-chain drug SOL#160; NA+ 
  
  
  
  
  
 This is bad - see http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Thermostats
Thank you for your website.#160; I understand now.
  grompp -f md2.mdp -n index.ndx#160; -p topol.top -c ${n-1}ps.gro#160; -t 
  ${n-1}ps.trr -o ${n}ps.tpr 
  
  
  mdrun -s ${n}ps.tpr -e ${n}ps.edr -o ${n}ps.trr -g ${n}ps.log -c ${n}ps.gro 
  
 
 You are following neither of the approaches recommended here 
 http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Doing_Restarts 
 
Ya, I'm sorry but my colleborator give me that before.
It is similiar to the commends connect position restrained dynamics and MD.
You can find grompp read gro and trr of last time frame to make a tpr file of 
next time frame.
I thought this cause the time write on each snapshot is 0, but the dynamics is 
still processing.
Did I miss something?
You say the pressure-coupling will be lost in each ps, does it mean that trr 
file doesn't have this message inside?

  Theses two data generated by different ways are totaly different. 
  
  Here I mean different is not on the number buy mean the tendency of figure. 
  
  
  
  
  
 
 See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Reproducibility
Ya, I know this since last time you show me this web in mailing list.
Thank you again.
But the different between these two outputs is totaly different.
I have four systems with different parameter gen_seed.
First is always unstable and irregular, but second is stable and regular.
  On the contrary, the second method generate a stable movie and fluctuation 
  of interaction energy. 
  
  Theotically these two should be the same, right? 
  
  
  
  
  
 
 The second is probably happier about not losing the pressure-coupling 
 information every 1ns. However only much 
 much longer trajectories should show mutual convergence, and the movie is not 
 a reasonable way to look for it. 
 
 Mark 
Sorry I don't understand you here.
Do you mean second way seems to more correct?
And what kind of mutual convergence you mean here? 
Does It mean I can try to find mutual convergence in output of second way?
I'm sorry for my stupid and poor English.

Sincerely yours,
Hsin-Lin

 
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Re: [gmx-users] different output generated by continue and discontinue simulation

2010-12-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Hsin-Lin Chiang wrote:

Hi, Mark
   tc-grps =  A-chain B-chain drug SOL  NA+
  
  
  
  
  
  This is bad - see 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Thermostats

Thank you for your website.  I understand now.
   grompp -f md2.mdp -n index.ndx  -p topol.top -c ${n-1}ps.gro  -t 
${n-1}ps.trr -o ${n}ps.tpr

  
  
   mdrun -s ${n}ps.tpr -e ${n}ps.edr -o ${n}ps.trr -g ${n}ps.log -c 
${n}ps.gro

  
 
  You are following neither of the approaches recommended here 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Doing_Restarts

 
Ya, I'm sorry but my colleborator give me that before.
It is similiar to the commends connect position restrained dynamics and MD.
You can find grompp read gro and trr of last time frame to make a tpr 
file of next time frame.
I thought this cause the time write on each snapshot is 0, but the 
dynamics is still processing.

Did I miss something?
You say the pressure-coupling will be lost in each ps, does it mean that 
trr file doesn't have this message inside?




Pressure coupling information is stored in the .edr file.  If you don't pass it 
to grompp, you lose it.  The better method is to use a checkpoint (.cpt) file, 
which contains everything necessary to accurately continue the simulation.



   Theses two data generated by different ways are totaly different.
  
   Here I mean different is not on the number buy mean the tendency of 
figure.

  
  
  
  
  
 
  See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Reproducibility
Ya, I know this since last time you show me this web in mailing list.
Thank you again.
But the different between these two outputs is totaly different.
I have four systems with different parameter gen_seed.
First is always unstable and irregular, but second is stable and regular.


It sounds like you have an unstable system, that, under certain favorable 
conditions, seems to work, but in other cases, doesn't.  I'd investigate why the 
first system is failing, since it probably really is a problem in all of them.


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up#Diagnosing_an_Unstable_System

   On the contrary, the second method generate a stable movie and 
fluctuation of interaction energy.

  
   Theotically these two should be the same, right?
  
  
  
  
  
 
  The second is probably happier about not losing the pressure-coupling 
information every 1ns. However only much
  much longer trajectories should show mutual convergence, and the 
movie is not a reasonable way to look for it.

 
  Mark
Sorry I don't understand you here.
Do you mean second way seems to more correct?


Not correct, but rather not yet suffering from the same problem.


And what kind of mutual convergence you mean here?


Systems only converge reliably over long time periods, i.e. in theory, 
independent observations can only be reliably obtained over sufficient time.


-Justin


Does It mean I can try to find mutual convergence in output of second way?
I'm sorry for my stupid and poor English.

Sincerely yours,
Hsin-Lin



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[gmx-users] Brownian Dynamics Simulations generating huge log files

2010-12-16 Thread Nimesh Jain
Hi,

I am trying to simulate a system of 880 particles with implicit solvent
using brownian dynamics, but the simulation generates huge log files (it
writes md.log files at a rate of almost 5MB/minute) and this crashed my
system since I ran out of space :(

My mdp file looks like this:

include  =
define   =
integrator   = bd
tinit= 0
dt   = 0.001
nsteps   = 1 ;10
simulation_part  = 1
init_step= 0
comm-mode= Angular
nstcomm  = 1
comm-grps=

emtol= 0.01
emstep   = 1.5

nstxout  = 1
nstvout  = 1
nstfout  = 1

nstenergy= 1000

nstxtcout= 1000
xtc-precision= 1000

nstlog   = 0

xtc-grps =
energygrps   =

ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
periodic_molecules   = no

rlist= 8.95

coulombtype  = user
rcoulomb-switch  = 0
rcoulomb = 8.95
epsilon-r= 1

vdw-type = user  ;cutoff
rvdw-switch  = 0
rvdw = 8.95
DispCorr = No
table-extension  = 1

; Seperate tables between energy group pairs
energygrps   = A T G C P300 SA SB


energygrp_table  = A A  A T  A G  A C  A P300  A SA  A SB  T T  T G
T C  T P300  T SA  T SB  G G  G C  G P300  G SA  G SB  C C  C P300  C SA  C
SB  P300 P300  P
300 SA  P300 SB  SA SA  SA SB  SB SB

; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
fourierspacing   = 0.10

Tcoupl   = Nose-Hoover
tc-grps  = System
tau_t= 0.001
ref_t= 300.00

Pcoupl   = No

andersen_seed= 815131

gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 300.
gen_seed = 1993

Please let me know if there is a solution to write smaller mdp files. I have
set nstlog = 0 , but even that doesn't work!

Thanks
Nimesh
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Re: [gmx-users] Brownian Dynamics Simulations generating huge log files

2010-12-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Nimesh Jain wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to simulate a system of 880 particles with implicit solvent 
using brownian dynamics, but the simulation generates huge log files (it 
writes md.log files at a rate of almost 5MB/minute) and this crashed my 
system since I ran out of space :(


My mdp file looks like this:

include  =
define   =
integrator   = bd
tinit= 0
dt   = 0.001
nsteps   = 1 ;10
simulation_part  = 1
init_step= 0
comm-mode= Angular
nstcomm  = 1
comm-grps=

emtol= 0.01
emstep   = 1.5

nstxout  = 1
nstvout  = 1
nstfout  = 1

nstenergy= 1000

nstxtcout= 1000
xtc-precision= 1000

nstlog   = 0

xtc-grps =
energygrps   =

ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
periodic_molecules   = no

rlist= 8.95

coulombtype  = user
rcoulomb-switch  = 0
rcoulomb = 8.95
epsilon-r= 1

vdw-type = user  ;cutoff
rvdw-switch  = 0
rvdw = 8.95
DispCorr = No
table-extension  = 1

; Seperate tables between energy group pairs
energygrps   = A T G C P300 SA SB


energygrp_table  = A A  A T  A G  A C  A P300  A SA  A SB  T T  
T G  T C  T P300  T SA  T SB  G G  G C  G P300  G SA  G SB  C C  C P300  
C SA  C SB  P300 P300  P

300 SA  P300 SB  SA SA  SA SB  SB SB

; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
fourierspacing   = 0.10

Tcoupl   = Nose-Hoover
tc-grps  = System
tau_t= 0.001


This doesn't seem like a reasonable setting for tau_t; grompp should have warned 
you about that since dt = tau_t!



ref_t= 300.00

Pcoupl   = No

andersen_seed= 815131

gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 300.
gen_seed = 1993

Please let me know if there is a solution to write smaller mdp files. I 
have set nstlog = 0 , but even that doesn't work!


Set nstlog to some incredibly large number, then, and it will only output a few 
times.  It seems strange that nstlog = 0 didn't suppress the .log file output as 
it would any of the other nst* settings.


-Justin



Thanks
Nimesh




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[gmx-users] Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread Vitaly Chaban
 From: gromacs ptf1...@163.com
 Subject: [gmx-users] water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

 Hi,

 I want to simulate 3x3x0.8 water film (bulk water) first creat the water,

 genbox -cs -o film.gro -box 3 3 0.8

 then, i EM the bulk water;

 Using steep, but

 t = 0.011 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 298 can not be settled.
 Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.
 Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates


 then i run, and i get the result. I use NPT, and T=300K. I run several times, 
 but the final T was still 411K.



 So what could i do to get EM process successful?

 And what is the reason ? why i can not control the T 300K?



 Energy                      Average       RMSD     Fluct.      Drift  
 Tot-Drift
 ---
 Potential                  -9496.38    136.145    135.455  -0.158085   
 -47.4256
 Kinetic En.                  2358.2    73.5876    73.5471 -0.0281891   
 -8.45676
 Total Energy               -7138.19    136.284    135.326  -0.186274   
 -55.8824
 Temperature                 411.945    12.8548    12.8477 -0.00492426   
 -1.47728
 Pressure (bar)             -1.66406    704.355    704.355 -0.00424907   
 -1.27473
 Box-X                       2.91791  0.0128965  0.0128789 -7.7826e-06 
 -0.00233479
 Box-Y                       2.91791  0.0128965  0.0128789 -7.7826e-06 
 -0.00233479
 Box-Z                      0.778108 0.00343907 0.00343437 -2.07536e-06 
 -0.000622609
 Density (SI)                 1038.7    13.6165    13.5998 0.00778513    
 2.33555
 Heat Capacity Cv:        12.49 J/mol K (factor = 0.000973754)



Hey, gromacs -

Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something
with any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using
classical FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the
z-side.

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[gmx-users] Simulated Annealing parameters

2010-12-16 Thread Ehud Schreiber
Dear fellow GROMACS users,

 

I am using the simulated annealing option in gromacs 4.5.2 (in an
implicit solvent all-vs-all setting, by the way), i.e. using the
annealing, annealing_npoints, annealing_time, annealing_temp parameters
in the mdp file. I also specify the tcoupl, tc_grps and tau_t parameters
for the temperature coupling, as well as the gen_vel, gen_temp, gen_seed
ones for initial velocity generation. The perplexing behavior I'm
encountering is that grompp requires me to specify also the ref_t
parameter although it would seem to be overridden by the annealing
parameters mentioned above. Am I doing anything wrong? If not, the
correct behavior would be to warn when this parameter is specified
rather than to demand it (and then presumably ignore it).

 

Thanks in advance for your thoughts on the matter,

Ehud Schreiber. 

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[gmx-users] g_bundle question

2010-12-16 Thread Rebeca García Fandiño

Hello,
I am trying to calculate the tilt angle of the principal axis of a nanotube 
inserted into a membrane using g_bundle. In the index file I have selected a 
group of atoms at the top and a group of atoms at the bottom of the nanotube, 
and I using the option -na 1 and -z to calculate the tilt respect to the z axis 
of the membrane.
I suppose that the results I have obtained in bun_tilt.xvg are the tilt angles 
respect to the average axis (along the simulation), is that right? Is there any 
way to calculate the tilt angle respect to a reference axis (for example, the 
axis formed by the 2 groups in the index file in the first structure, which is 
just perpendicular to the membrane?
Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
Best wishes,

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Spain
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Re: [gmx-users] g_bundle question

2010-12-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Rebeca García Fandiño wrote:

Hello,
I am trying to calculate the tilt angle of the principal axis of a 
nanotube inserted into a membrane using g_bundle. In the index file I 
have selected a group of atoms at the top and a group of atoms at the 
bottom of the nanotube, and I using the option -na 1 and -z to calculate 
the tilt respect to the z axis of the membrane.
I suppose that the results I have obtained in bun_tilt.xvg are the tilt 
angles respect to the average axis (along the simulation), is that 
right? Is there any way to calculate the tilt angle respect to a 
reference axis (for example, the axis formed by the 2 groups in the 
index file in the first structure, which is just perpendicular to the 
membrane?


Sounds like something g_sgangle can do.

-Justin


Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
Best wishes,

Rebeca Garcia
Santiago de Compostela University
Spain
rega...@hotmail.com



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[gmx-users] tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat

2010-12-16 Thread Poojari, Chetan
Hi,

I am doing data analysis of umbrella sampling tutorial. I have created 2 files :

a) tpr-files.dat  (under this folder i got )
144.tpr
169.tpr
300.tpr
400.tpr
500.tpr


b) pullf-files.dat

pullf144.xvg
pullf169.xvg
pullf300.xvg
pullf400.xvg
pullf500.xvg


When i run this command:

g_wham -it tpr-files.dat -if pullf-files.dat -o -hist -unit kCal


I get the following error:

Found 0 tpr and 0 pull force files in tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat, 
respectively Reading 0 tpr and pullf files.

But both tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat contain all the .tpr and .xvg files·



Please can someone suggest me how to go about this error message.



Kind regards,
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Re: [gmx-users] Brownian Dynamics Simulations generating huge log files

2010-12-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Nimesh Jain wrote:
I set nstlog = 1000, and still I get a 5MB log file within a 
minute of starting the sim. It seems absurd, but its happening :(




Well, a log file will always be written with header information, etc, although 5 
MB does seem quite large.  The better question is whether or not it continues to 
get updated, causing the file size to increase.  If it is, investigate what the 
contents are.  Is the simulation crashing, causing thousands of lines of LINCS 
warnings to be printed?  Is it normal output, but at a different frequency than 
what was specified?


-Justin

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




Nimesh Jain wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to simulate a system of 880 particles with implicit
solvent using brownian dynamics, but the simulation generates
huge log files (it writes md.log files at a rate of almost
5MB/minute) and this crashed my system since I ran out of space :(

My mdp file looks like this:

include  =
define   =
integrator   = bd
tinit= 0
dt   = 0.001
nsteps   = 1 ;10
simulation_part  = 1
init_step= 0
comm-mode= Angular
nstcomm  = 1
comm-grps=

emtol= 0.01
emstep   = 1.5

nstxout  = 1
nstvout  = 1
nstfout  = 1

nstenergy= 1000

nstxtcout= 1000
xtc-precision= 1000

nstlog   = 0

xtc-grps =
energygrps   =

ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
periodic_molecules   = no

rlist= 8.95

coulombtype  = user
rcoulomb-switch  = 0
rcoulomb = 8.95
epsilon-r= 1

vdw-type = user  ;cutoff
rvdw-switch  = 0
rvdw = 8.95
DispCorr = No
table-extension  = 1

; Seperate tables between energy group pairs
energygrps   = A T G C P300 SA SB


energygrp_table  = A A  A T  A G  A C  A P300  A SA  A
SB  T T  T G  T C  T P300  T SA  T SB  G G  G C  G P300  G SA  G
SB  C C  C P300  C SA  C SB  P300 P300  P
300 SA  P300 SB  SA SA  SA SB  SB SB

; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
fourierspacing   = 0.10

Tcoupl   = Nose-Hoover
tc-grps  = System
tau_t= 0.001


This doesn't seem like a reasonable setting for tau_t; grompp should
have warned you about that since dt = tau_t!


ref_t= 300.00

Pcoupl   = No

andersen_seed= 815131

gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 300.
gen_seed = 1993

Please let me know if there is a solution to write smaller mdp
files. I have set nstlog = 0 , but even that doesn't work!


Set nstlog to some incredibly large number, then, and it will only
output a few times.  It seems strange that nstlog = 0 didn't
suppress the .log file output as it would any of the other nst*
settings.

-Justin


Thanks
Nimesh



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Re: [gmx-users] Brownian Dynamics Simulations generating huge log files

2010-12-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Nimesh Jain wrote:
I am attaching the file, The simulation doesn't seem to crash, the log 
gets updated for sure. Hope you can make some sense of it.




A few things:

1. Please do not attach entire log files.  That took forever for my mail client 
to download with no ability to abort.


http://www.gromacs.org/Support/Mailing_Lists#Mailing_List_Etiquette

2. Since I had already downloaded such an enormous file, I looked through it 
anyway, and found several potential problems:


a. You probably have problems in your tables:
WARNING: For the 4981 non-zero entries for table 2 in table_SA_SB.xvg the 
forces deviate on average 44% from minus the numerical derivative of the potential


b. Your value of nstlog is nonsense: nstlog  = 1215752192 indicates that mdrun 
did not find a reasonable value, i.e. you have exceeded the maximum size for an 
integer.  Use a large, but sensible, setting.


c. Your system is exploding, with a temperature of 1.14469e+04.

I suspect that the large log file is produced by the instability of the system, 
and hence you're getting a huge amount of diagnostic information, much of which 
is somewhat cryptic.


-Justin

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu 
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




Nimesh Jain wrote:

I set nstlog = 1000, and still I get a 5MB log file
within a minute of starting the sim. It seems absurd, but its
happening :(


Well, a log file will always be written with header information,
etc, although 5 MB does seem quite large.  The better question is
whether or not it continues to get updated, causing the file size to
increase.  If it is, investigate what the contents are.  Is the
simulation crashing, causing thousands of lines of LINCS warnings to
be printed?  Is it normal output, but at a different frequency than
what was specified?

-Justin

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Justin A. Lemkul
jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu
mailto:jalem...@vt.edu mailto:jalem...@vt.edu wrote:



   Nimesh Jain wrote:

   Hi,

   I am trying to simulate a system of 880 particles with
implicit
   solvent using brownian dynamics, but the simulation generates
   huge log files (it writes md.log files at a rate of almost
   5MB/minute) and this crashed my system since I ran out of
space :(

   My mdp file looks like this:

   include  =
   define   =
   integrator   = bd
   tinit= 0
   dt   = 0.001
   nsteps   = 1 ;10
   simulation_part  = 1
   init_step= 0
   comm-mode= Angular
   nstcomm  = 1
   comm-grps=

   emtol= 0.01
   emstep   = 1.5

   nstxout  = 1
   nstvout  = 1
   nstfout  = 1

   nstenergy= 1000

   nstxtcout= 1000
   xtc-precision= 1000

   nstlog   = 0

   xtc-grps =
   energygrps   =

   ns_type  = grid
   pbc  = xyz
   periodic_molecules   = no

   rlist= 8.95

   coulombtype  = user
   rcoulomb-switch  = 0
   rcoulomb = 8.95
   epsilon-r= 1

   vdw-type = user  ;cutoff
   rvdw-switch  = 0
   rvdw = 8.95
   DispCorr = No
   table-extension  = 1

   ; Seperate tables between energy group pairs
   energygrps   = A T G C P300 SA SB


   energygrp_table  = A A  A T  A G  A C  A P300  A
SA  A
   SB  T T  T G  T C  T P300  T SA  T SB  G G  G C  G P300
 G SA  G
   SB  C C  C P300  C SA  C SB  P300 P300  P
   300 SA  P300 SB  SA SA  SA SB  SB SB

   ; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid
   fourierspacing   = 0.10

   Tcoupl   = Nose-Hoover
   tc-grps  = System
   tau_t= 0.001


   This doesn't seem like a reasonable setting for tau_t; grompp
should
   have warned you about that since dt = tau_t!


   ref_t= 300.00

 

RE: [gmx-users] tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat

2010-12-16 Thread Poojari, Chetan
Hello Justin,

I had made mistake in creating the .dat files.  

I created just 5 windows between 0.2 to 5nm as i wanted to feel how things 
would work before setting up my system for umbrella sampling. And also to save 
up my computational time. 

So, After running the command:

g_wham -it tpr-files.dat -if pullf-files.dat -o -hist -unit kCal

I get the below message. In the second line of the message it says Reading 2 
tpr and pullf files...and as it can seen below it reads all the .tpr 
files. But it doesn't say anything about reading the .xvg files.
Please can I know what exactly its doing here.



Found 5 tpr and 5 pull force files in tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat, 
respectively
Reading 2 tpr and pullf files
Automatic determination of boundaries...
Reading file 144.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
File 144.tpr, 1 groups, geometry distance, dimensions [N N Y], (1 dimensions)
grp 0) k = 1000.000  inittial distance = 0.601453
Reading file 169.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 300.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 400.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 500.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)

Determined boundaries to 0.462181 and 5.585278

Reading file 144.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 169.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 300.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 400.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 500.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)

Initialized rapid wham stuff.
   1) Maximum change 5.326426e+00
Switched to exact iteration in iteration 44
Converged in 45 iterations. Final maximum change 6.37158e-07



Kind regards,
chetan.






From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf 
Of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
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To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat

Poojari, Chetan wrote:
 Hi,

 I am doing data analysis of umbrella sampling tutorial. I have created 2 
 files :

 a) tpr-files.dat  (under this folder i got )
 144.tpr
 169.tpr
 300.tpr
 400.tpr
 500.tpr


 b) pullf-files.dat

 pullf144.xvg
 pullf169.xvg
 pullf300.xvg
 pullf400.xvg
 pullf500.xvg


 When i run this command:

 g_wham -it tpr-files.dat -if pullf-files.dat -o -hist -unit kCal


 I get the following error:

 Found 0 tpr and 0 pull force files in tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat, 
 respectively Reading 0 tpr and pullf files.

 But both tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat contain all the .tpr and .xvg 
 files·



 Please can someone suggest me how to go about this error message.


The only thing I can think of is incompatible line endings (i.e., Windows).
Otherwise, plain text input is rather straightforward.

-Justin



 Kind regards,
 chetan.

 
 
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RE: [gmx-users] g_bundle question

2010-12-16 Thread Rebeca García Fandiño

Thanks for the suggestion.
However, I have one question. If I use g_sgangle I can calculate the angle 
formed by the atoms at the top and bottom of my nanotube, but if the nanotube 
is considered as a whole (as a rigid system), and it tilts, then the result 
would not show the tilt respect to the z axis of the membrane, am I right? 
Thanks a lot for your help.
Best wishes,
Rebeca.

 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:59:38 -0500
 From: jalem...@vt.edu
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] g_bundle question
 
 
 
 Rebeca García Fandiño wrote:
  Hello,
  I am trying to calculate the tilt angle of the principal axis of a 
  nanotube inserted into a membrane using g_bundle. In the index file I 
  have selected a group of atoms at the top and a group of atoms at the 
  bottom of the nanotube, and I using the option -na 1 and -z to calculate 
  the tilt respect to the z axis of the membrane.
  I suppose that the results I have obtained in bun_tilt.xvg are the tilt 
  angles respect to the average axis (along the simulation), is that 
  right? Is there any way to calculate the tilt angle respect to a 
  reference axis (for example, the axis formed by the 2 groups in the 
  index file in the first structure, which is just perpendicular to the 
  membrane?
 
 Sounds like something g_sgangle can do.
 
 -Justin
 
  Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
  Best wishes,
  
  Rebeca Garcia
  Santiago de Compostela University
  Spain
  rega...@hotmail.com
  
 
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Re: [gmx-users] g_bundle question

2010-12-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Rebeca García Fandiño wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion.
However, I have one question. If I use g_sgangle I can calculate the 
angle formed by the atoms at the top and bottom of my nanotube, but if 
the nanotube is considered as a whole (as a rigid system), and it tilts, 
then the result would not show the tilt respect to the z axis of the 
membrane, am I right?


Maybe I'm not clear on what you want.  I haven't used g_sgangle much, but it 
seems to me that option -oa (Angle between the two groups specified in the 
index file) would do what you want.  Otherwise, g_sgangle -z might.


-Justin


Thanks a lot for your help.
Best wishes,
Rebeca.

  Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:59:38 -0500
  From: jalem...@vt.edu
  To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] g_bundle question
 
 
 
  Rebeca García Fandiño wrote:
   Hello,
   I am trying to calculate the tilt angle of the principal axis of a
   nanotube inserted into a membrane using g_bundle. In the index file I
   have selected a group of atoms at the top and a group of atoms at the
   bottom of the nanotube, and I using the option -na 1 and -z to 
calculate

   the tilt respect to the z axis of the membrane.
   I suppose that the results I have obtained in bun_tilt.xvg are the 
tilt

   angles respect to the average axis (along the simulation), is that
   right? Is there any way to calculate the tilt angle respect to a
   reference axis (for example, the axis formed by the 2 groups in the
   index file in the first structure, which is just perpendicular to the
   membrane?
 
  Sounds like something g_sgangle can do.
 
  -Justin
 
   Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
   Best wishes,
  
   Rebeca Garcia
   Santiago de Compostela University
   Spain
   rega...@hotmail.com
  
 
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Re: [gmx-users] tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat

2010-12-16 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Poojari, Chetan wrote:

Hello Justin,

I had made mistake in creating the .dat files.  

I created just 5 windows between 0.2 to 5nm as i wanted to feel how things would work before setting up my system for umbrella sampling. And also to save up my computational time. 


So, After running the command:

g_wham -it tpr-files.dat -if pullf-files.dat -o -hist -unit kCal

I get the below message. In the second line of the message it says Reading 2 tpr 
and pullf files...and as it can seen below it reads all the .tpr files. But 
it doesn't say anything about reading the .xvg files.
Please can I know what exactly its doing here.



Neither do I, but that's why the source code is available :)

Presumably it's some sort of intermediate check.  It looks like the rest of the 
process completed.  The data are probably meaningless, though, so don't draw too 
much from it.  Without sufficient window overlap, you'll have a poor PMF curve 
with lots of discontinuities.  I suspect that five windows, spaced from 0.2 to 5 
nm, will not really indicate if you've done anything correctly or not.


-Justin




Found 5 tpr and 5 pull force files in tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat, 
respectively
Reading 2 tpr and pullf files
Automatic determination of boundaries...
Reading file 144.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
File 144.tpr, 1 groups, geometry distance, dimensions [N N Y], (1 dimensions)
grp 0) k = 1000.000  inittial distance = 0.601453
Reading file 169.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 300.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 400.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 500.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)

Determined boundaries to 0.462181 and 5.585278

Reading file 144.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 169.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 300.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 400.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)
Reading file 500.tpr, VERSION 4.0.7 (single precision)

Initialized rapid wham stuff.
   1) Maximum change 5.326426e+00
Switched to exact iteration in iteration 44
Converged in 45 iterations. Final maximum change 6.37158e-07



Kind regards,
chetan.






From: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org] On Behalf 
Of Justin A. Lemkul [jalem...@vt.edu]
Sent: 16 December 2010 20:49
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat

Poojari, Chetan wrote:

Hi,

I am doing data analysis of umbrella sampling tutorial. I have created 2 files :

a) tpr-files.dat  (under this folder i got )
144.tpr
169.tpr
300.tpr
400.tpr
500.tpr


b) pullf-files.dat

pullf144.xvg
pullf169.xvg
pullf300.xvg
pullf400.xvg
pullf500.xvg


When i run this command:

g_wham -it tpr-files.dat -if pullf-files.dat -o -hist -unit kCal


I get the following error:

Found 0 tpr and 0 pull force files in tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat, 
respectively Reading 0 tpr and pullf files.

But both tpr-files.dat and pullf-files.dat contain all the .tpr and .xvg files·



Please can someone suggest me how to go about this error message.



The only thing I can think of is incompatible line endings (i.e., Windows).
Otherwise, plain text input is rather straightforward.

-Justin



Kind regards,
chetan.



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RE: [gmx-users] g_bundle question

2010-12-16 Thread Rebeca García Fandiño

OK,
you are right, I haven´t noticed the -z option! 
I will try it.
Thanks a lot for your help.
Best wishes,
Rebeca.

 Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 15:34:05 -0500
 From: jalem...@vt.edu
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] g_bundle question
 
 
 
 Rebeca García Fandiño wrote:
  Thanks for the suggestion.
  However, I have one question. If I use g_sgangle I can calculate the 
  angle formed by the atoms at the top and bottom of my nanotube, but if 
  the nanotube is considered as a whole (as a rigid system), and it tilts, 
  then the result would not show the tilt respect to the z axis of the 
  membrane, am I right?
 
 Maybe I'm not clear on what you want.  I haven't used g_sgangle much, but it 
 seems to me that option -oa (Angle between the two groups specified in the 
 index file) would do what you want.  Otherwise, g_sgangle -z might.
 
 -Justin
 
  Thanks a lot for your help.
  Best wishes,
  Rebeca.
  
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:59:38 -0500
From: jalem...@vt.edu
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] g_bundle question
   
   
   
Rebeca García Fandiño wrote:
 Hello,
 I am trying to calculate the tilt angle of the principal axis of a
 nanotube inserted into a membrane using g_bundle. In the index file I
 have selected a group of atoms at the top and a group of atoms at the
 bottom of the nanotube, and I using the option -na 1 and -z to 
  calculate
 the tilt respect to the z axis of the membrane.
 I suppose that the results I have obtained in bun_tilt.xvg are the 
  tilt
 angles respect to the average axis (along the simulation), is that
 right? Is there any way to calculate the tilt angle respect to a
 reference axis (for example, the axis formed by the 2 groups in the
 index file in the first structure, which is just perpendicular to the
 membrane?
   
Sounds like something g_sgangle can do.
   
-Justin
   
 Thanks a lot in advance for your help.
 Best wishes,

 Rebeca Garcia
 Santiago de Compostela University
 Spain
 rega...@hotmail.com

   
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Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] Simulated Annealing parameters

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Abraham

On 17/12/2010 3:38 AM, Ehud Schreiber wrote:


Dear fellow GROMACS users,

I am using the simulated annealing option in gromacs 4.5.2 (in an 
implicit solvent all-vs-all setting, by the way), i.e. using the 
annealing, annealing_npoints, annealing_time, annealing_temp 
parameters in the mdp file. I also specify the tcoupl, tc_grps and 
tau_t parameters for the temperature coupling, as well as the gen_vel, 
gen_temp, gen_seed ones for initial velocity generation. The 
perplexing behavior I'm encountering is that grompp requires me to 
specify also the ref_t parameter although it would seem to be 
overridden by the annealing parameters mentioned above. Am I doing 
anything wrong? If not, the correct behavior would be to warn when 
this parameter is specified rather than to demand it (and then 
presumably ignore it).




It's easier to write and maintain code that functions the same way even 
when something is redundant in a particular case. Making the .mdp ref_t 
optional or illegal only when annealing is being used (when the SA 
implementation probably copies the SA values to the memory formerly 
occupied by the .mdp values) doesn't have enough of a gain to be worth 
the cost in coding time and ease of people understanding the full 
ramifications of the code. Thanks for the thought, though.


Mark
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[gmx-users] water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T too high

2010-12-16 Thread gromacs





Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:50:51 -0500
From: Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com
Subject: [gmx-users] Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not
   high
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 From: gromacs ptf1...@163.com
 Subject: [gmx-users] water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

 Hi,

 I want to simulate 3x3x0.8 water film (bulk water) first creat the water,

 genbox -cs -o film.gro -box 3 3 0.8

 then, i EM the bulk water;

 Using steep, but

 t = 0.011 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 298 can not be settled.
 Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.
 Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates


 then i run, and i get the result. I use NPT, and T=300K. I run several 
 times, but the final T was still 411K.



 So what could i do to get EM process successful?

 And what is the reason ? why i can not control the T 300K?



 Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift  
 Tot-Drift
 ---
 Potential  -9496.38136.145135.455  -0.158085   
 -47.4256
 Kinetic En.  2358.273.587673.5471 -0.0281891   
 -8.45676
 Total Energy   -7138.19136.284135.326  -0.186274   
 -55.8824
 Temperature 411.94512.854812.8477 -0.00492426   
 -1.47728
 Pressure (bar) -1.66406704.355704.355 -0.00424907   
 -1.27473
 Box-X   2.91791  0.0128965  0.0128789 -7.7826e-06 
 -0.00233479
 Box-Y   2.91791  0.0128965  0.0128789 -7.7826e-06 
 -0.00233479
 Box-Z  0.778108 0.00343907 0.00343437 -2.07536e-06 
 -0.000622609
 Density (SI) 1038.713.616513.5998 0.00778513
 2.33555
 Heat Capacity Cv:12.49 J/mol K (factor = 0.000973754)



Hey, gromacs -

Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something
with any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using
classical FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the
z-side.

--
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.


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Thanks very much. I use the cutoff=0.38, because the cutoff should be smaller 
than the half box size. I guess it may be the Z dimension is too small, Plus 
the PBC. But when i use 1.8x1.8x1.8nm bulk water, all results are OK.

My teacher wants me to simulate 3x3x0.8, 3x3x0.9 nm water film's rupture. So i 
have to run bulk 3x3x0.8 water and then add box to 3x3x9 to form interface.

So if i want to run run bulk 3x3x0.8 water, how could i do? which FF should i 
use? the high T may be due to EM not success??


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[gmx-users] strange xpm output of g_rmsdist!

2010-12-16 Thread Hassan Shallal
Thanks Tsjerk  for the response. Just to follow on the thread for other users 
who may get interested in recoloring matrix files, GUI of GIMP (newest version) 
can allow recoloring any grayscale matrix file using several color gradient 
maps already available within GIMP. 
 
I have got another issue indeed to discuss with groamcs users, here is the 
description:
Target: finding out the effect of a given mutation on the average distance 
between the alpha carbon atom pairs in a given protein
 
Approach: after 20 ns simulation, g_rmsdist was used to derive the 
2-dimensional matrix xpm for each system (mutant and wildtype) for comparison...
 
Problem: The xpm output for the wildtype system is very weird whereas the 
output for the mutant one looks fine. In the weird xpm, there is just a white 
diagonal line whereas everything else is black which means that the distances 
between the alpha carbons exhibited massively big RMSD throughout the whole 
trajectory. This is impossible, I checked the trajectory of that specific 
system using VMD, it looks like any usual trajectory and the distances between 
the alpha carbons were changing all the simulation time but the protein kept 
its overall shape and secondary structure elements. Given this weird output 
xpm, I would imagine that the protein completely unfolds!! So there must be 
something wrong that happened while g_rmsdist was processing that specific 
trajectory!!!
 
I plotted the corresponding xvg files (also generated by g_rmsdist). In both, 
RMSD calculations looks fine and within acceptable range and upon plotting, the 
RMSD curve of the mutant and that of the wildtpye were very close to each 
others.
 
Here is the command I issued for checking:
 
g_rmsdist -s wildtype.tpr -f wildtype_noPBC_from_trr.xtc  -o 
wildtype_Calpha_rmsdist.xvg -rms wildtype_Calpha_rmsdist.xpm -scl 
wildtype_Calpha_rmsscale.xpm -mean wildtype_Calpha_rmsmean.xpm
 
and exactly a similar one for the mutant system.
 
I am including a part of the content of both thw wildtype and the mutant xpm 
for checking at the end of the message.. The numbers for color assignment in 
the wildtype xpm are much much higher than those in the mutant one.
 
Question: has anyone encountered a similar problem with the g_rmsdist -rms xpm 
output? is there any suggestion of what might have been wrong and what needs to 
be corrected so that the g_rmsdist can give normal output for all the systems?
 
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated
 
Great regards
 
Hassan
 
A] wildtype_Calpha_rmsdist.xpm 

/* XPM */
/* Generated by /home/hassan/bin/bin/g_rmsdist */
/* This file can be converted to EPS by the GROMACS program xpm2ps */
/* title:   RMS of distance */
/* legend:  RMS (nm) */
/* x-label: Atom Index */
/* y-label: Atom Index */
/* type:Continuous */
static char *gromacs_xpm[] = {
295 295   40 1,
A  c #FF  /* 0 */,
B  c #F8F8F8  /* 7.7 */,
C  c #F2F2F2  /* 15.4 */,
D  c #EBEBEB  /* 23.1 */,
E  c #E5E5E5  /* 30.8 */,
F  c #DEDEDE  /* 38.5 */,
G  c #D8D8D8  /* 46.2 */,
H  c #D1D1D1  /* 53.9 */,
I  c #CBCBCB  /* 61.6 */,
J  c #C4C4C4  /* 69.3 */,
K  c #BEBEBE  /* 77 */,
L  c #B7B7B7  /* 84.7 */,
M  c #B1B1B1  /* 92.5 */,
N  c #AA  /* 100 */,
O  c #A3A3A3  /* 108 */,
P  c #9D9D9D  /* 116 */,
Q  c #969696  /* 123 */,
R  c #909090  /* 131 */,
S  c #898989  /* 139 */,
T  c #838383  /* 146 */,
U  c #7C7C7C  /* 154 */,
V  c #767676  /* 162 */,
W  c #6F6F6F  /* 169 */,
X  c #696969  /* 177 */,
Y  c #626262  /* 185 */,
Z  c #5C5C5C  /* 193 */,
a  c #55  /* 200 */,
b  c #4E4E4E  /* 208 */,
c  c #484848  /* 216 */,
d  c #414141  /* 223 */,
e  c #3B3B3B  /* 231 */,
f  c #343434  /* 239 */,
g  c #2E2E2E  /* 247 */,
h  c #272727  /* 254 */,
i  c #212121  /* 262 */,
j  c #1A1A1A  /* 270 */,
k  c #141414  /* 277 */,
l  c #0D0D0D  /* 285 */,
m  c #070707  /* 293 */,
n  c #00  /* 300 */,
/* x-axis:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 
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[gmx-users] RE: pathologically expanding box

2010-12-16 Thread Greg Bowman

That did it, thanks Berk.

On 12/15/10 1:13 AM, gmx-users-requ...@gromacs.org wrote:

RE: pathologically expanding box

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RE: [gmx-users] water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T too high

2010-12-16 Thread Dallas Warren
Why can't you energy minimise the water block / film in the final box
size?


And you can't simply change the cut-offs like that to suit your box
size, you need to use the settings that the forcefield was parameterised
for, or what others have studied / published and found to be suitable.
You can't swap and changes those settings at a whim.

 

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a nail. 

 

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Subject: [gmx-users] water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T too high

 

 

 


Message: 3
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:50:51 -0500
From: Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com
Subject: [gmx-users] Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not
   high
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 From: gromacs ptf1...@163.com
 Subject: [gmx-users] water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not
high
 
 Hi,
 
 I want to simulate 3x3x0.8 water film (bulk water) first creat the
water,
 
 genbox -cs -o film.gro -box 3 3 0.8
 
 then, i EM the bulk water;
 
 Using steep, but
 
 t = 0.011 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 298 can not be settled.
 Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.
 Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
 
 
 then i run, and i get the result. I use NPT, and T=300K. I run
several times, but the final T was still 411K.
 
 
 
 So what could i do to get EM process successful?
 
 And what is the reason ? why i can not control the T 300K?
 
 
 
 Energy  Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift
Tot-Drift


---
 Potential  -9496.38136.145135.455  -0.158085
-47.4256
 Kinetic En.  2358.273.587673.5471 -0.0281891
-8.45676
 Total Energy   -7138.19136.284135.326  -0.186274
-55.8824
 Temperature 411.94512.854812.8477 -0.00492426
-1.47728
 Pressure (bar) -1.66406704.355704.355 -0.00424907
-1.27473
 Box-X   2.91791  0.0128965  0.0128789 -7.7826e-06
-0.00233479
 Box-Y   2.91791  0.0128965  0.0128789 -7.7826e-06
-0.00233479
 Box-Z  0.778108 0.00343907 0.00343437
-2.07536e-06 -0.000622609
 Density (SI) 1038.713.616513.5998 0.00778513
2.33555
 Heat Capacity Cv:12.49 J/mol K (factor = 0.000973754)
 
 
 
Hey, gromacs -
 
Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something
with any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using
classical FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the
z-side.
 
--
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.
 
 
--
 


Thanks very much. I use the cutoff=0.38, because the cutoff should be
smaller than the half box size. I guess it may be the Z dimension is too
small, Plus the PBC. But when i use 1.8x1.8x1.8nm bulk water, all
results are OK.

My teacher wants me to simulate 3x3x0.8, 3x3x0.9 nm water film's
rupture. So i have to run bulk 3x3x0.8 water and then add box to 3x3x9
to form interface.

So if i want to run run bulk 3x3x0.8 water, how could i do? which FF
should i use? the high T may be due to EM not success??



 

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[gmx-users] Re:Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread gromacs
OK. I will use your method. But i am afraid there will be something wrong. 
Because generally, i should run the 3x3x0.8 NPT water, and then i use editconf 
to add the water to 3x3x3. If i donot run 3x3x0.8, i may not be able to run the 
final interface box. Because the water in the box is not at proper situation or 
position. Anyway, i will have a try first.

If i have problem or success, i will give an answer to all.
At 2010-12-17 09:51:57,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, gromacs -

Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something
with any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using
classical FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the
z-side.

--
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.


 Thanks very much. I use the cutoff=0.38, because the cutoff should be 
 smaller than the half box size. I guess it may be the Z dimension is too 
 small, Plus the PBC. But when i use 1.8x1.8x1.8nm bulk water, all results 
 are OK.

 My teacher wants me to simulate 3x3x0.8, 3x3x0.9 nm water film's rupture. So 
 i have to run bulk 3x3x0.8 water and then add box to 3x3x9 to form 
 interface.

 So if i want to run run bulk 3x3x0.8 water, how could i do? which FF should 
 i use? the high T may be due to EM not success??


I believe you use the term bulk water in another sense as compared
to all other guys here. When people say bulk liquid they imply the
endless ocean of this liquid. It is not important what particular side
lengths you have, since due to PBC you get infinitively large system.

I suspect your teacher wants you to obtain a film of water that would
be about 3 molecular layers wide. That's easy. Take your current box
of water and apply editconf -

editconf -f current_conf -o water_film_conf -box 3 3 3

Finally, just start MD run with a water_film_conf. You'll have the
same periodic box , but water molecules will be present only at its
center surrounded by vacuum in one (Z) direction.

Happy GROMACSing,

Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.

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[gmx-users] water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread gromacs



 Forwarding messages  From: gromacs ptf1...@163.com Date: 
2010-12-17 12:48:55To:  vvcha...@gmail.com Cc:  gmx-users@gromacs.org Subject: 
Re:Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high OK. I will use your 
method. But i am afraid there will be something wrong. Because generally, i 
should run the 3x3x0.8 NPT water, and then i use editconf to add the water to 
3x3x3. If i donot run 3x3x0.8, i may not be able to run the final interface 
box. Because the water in the box is not at proper situation or position. 
Anyway, i will have a try first.

One problem is that how can i make the Energy Minimising successful?

There are some water molecules not in suitable position. 

If i have problem or success, i will give an answer to all. At 2010-12-17 
09:51:57,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, gromacs - 
Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something with 
any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using classical 
FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the z-side.-- 
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban Rochester, U.S.A.  Thanks very much. I use 
the cutoff=0.38, because the cutoff should be smaller than the half box size. I 
guess it may be the Z dimension is too small, Plus the PBC. But when i use 
1.8x1.8x1.8nm bulk water, all results are OK.   My teacher wants me to 
simulate 3x3x0.8, 3x3x0.9 nm water film's rupture. So i have to run bulk 
3x3x0.8 water and then add box to 3x3x9 to form interface.   So if i want 
to run run bulk 3x3x0.8 water, how could i do? which FF should i use? the high 
T may be due to EM not success??  I believe you use the term bulk water 
in another sense as compared to all other guys here. When people say bulk 
liquid they imply the endless ocean of this liquid. It is not important what 
particular side lengths you have, since due to PBC you get infinitively large 
system.  I suspect your teacher wants you to obtain a film of water that 
would be about 3 molecular layers wide. That's easy. Take your current box of 
water and apply editconf - editconf -f current_conf -o water_film_conf 
-box 3 3 3  Finally, just start MD run with a water_film_conf. You'll have 
the same periodic box , but water molecules will be present only at its 
center surrounded by vacuum in one (Z) direction. Happy GROMACSing,Dr. 
Vitaly V. Chaban Rochester, U.S.A.-- 
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[gmx-users] Re: Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread Vitaly Chaban
I still do not understand what physical system you want to create in
the MD system or what phenomenon you want to reproduce.

If you need a water film, then the only solution is to follow my
former suggestion.

In no case should you use 3x3x0.8 NPT MD box! If somebody suggested
you to do such thing, then this person simply does not understand
classical MD simulations.

--
Dr.Vitaly V. Chaban






On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:48 PM, gromacs ptf1...@163.com wrote:
 OK. I will use your method. But i am afraid there will be something wrong. 
 Because generally, i should run the 3x3x0.8 NPT water, and then i use 
 editconf to add the water to 3x3x3. If i donot run 3x3x0.8, i may not be able 
 to run the final interface box. Because the water in the box is not at proper 
 situation or position. Anyway, i will have a try first.

 If i have problem or success, i will give an answer to all.
 At 2010-12-17 09:51:57,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, gromacs -

Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something
with any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using
classical FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the
z-side.

--
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.


 Thanks very much. I use the cutoff=0.38, because the cutoff should be 
 smaller than the half box size. I guess it may be the Z dimension is too 
 small, Plus the PBC. But when i use 1.8x1.8x1.8nm bulk water, all results 
 are OK.

 My teacher wants me to simulate 3x3x0.8, 3x3x0.9 nm water film's rupture. 
 So i have to run bulk 3x3x0.8 water and then add box to 3x3x9 to form 
 interface.

 So if i want to run run bulk 3x3x0.8 water, how could i do? which FF should 
 i use? the high T may be due to EM not success??


I believe you use the term bulk water in another sense as compared
to all other guys here. When people say bulk liquid they imply the
endless ocean of this liquid. It is not important what particular side
lengths you have, since due to PBC you get infinitively large system.

I suspect your teacher wants you to obtain a film of water that would
be about 3 molecular layers wide. That's easy. Take your current box
of water and apply editconf -

editconf -f current_conf -o water_film_conf -box 3 3 3

Finally, just start MD run with a water_film_conf. You'll have the
same periodic box , but water molecules will be present only at its
center surrounded by vacuum in one (Z) direction.

Happy GROMACSing,

Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.
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[gmx-users] Re:Re: Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread gromacs
Yes. I should first run the 3x3x0.8 water to make the water

inequilibrium. And then i use editconf to put the water at the centre of

3x3x9 box, so the film was 0.8 nm, the Z dimension is 9 nm, so there will be 
film.

I want to simulate the rupture of the thickness of water film.

 

If i directly put the  3x3x0.8 water in the 3x3x9 box, i will try to see the 
result.

 

I


 



At 2010-12-17 13:12:43,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:

I still do not understand what physical system you want to create in
the MD system or what phenomenon you want to reproduce.

If you need a water film, then the only solution is to follow my
former suggestion.

In no case should you use 3x3x0.8 NPT MD box! If somebody suggested
you to do such thing, then this person simply does not understand
classical MD simulations.

--
Dr.Vitaly V. Chaban






On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:48 PM, gromacs ptf1...@163.com wrote:
 OK. I will use your method. But i am afraid there will be something wrong. 
 Because generally, i should run the 3x3x0.8 NPT water, and then i use 
 editconf to add the water to 3x3x3. If i donot run 3x3x0.8, i may not be 
 able to run the final interface box. Because the water in the box is not at 
 proper situation or position. Anyway, i will have a try first.

 If i have problem or success, i will give an answer to all.
 At 2010-12-17 09:51:57,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, gromacs -

Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something
with any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using
classical FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the
z-side.

--
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.


 Thanks very much. I use the cutoff=0.38, because the cutoff should be 
 smaller than the half box size. I guess it may be the Z dimension is too 
 small, Plus the PBC. But when i use 1.8x1.8x1.8nm bulk water, all results 
 are OK.

 My teacher wants me to simulate 3x3x0.8, 3x3x0.9 nm water film's rupture. 
 So i have to run bulk 3x3x0.8 water and then add box to 3x3x9 to form 
 interface.

 So if i want to run run bulk 3x3x0.8 water, how could i do? which FF 
 should i use? the high T may be due to EM not success??


I believe you use the term bulk water in another sense as compared
to all other guys here. When people say bulk liquid they imply the
endless ocean of this liquid. It is not important what particular side
lengths you have, since due to PBC you get infinitively large system.

I suspect your teacher wants you to obtain a film of water that would
be about 3 molecular layers wide. That's easy. Take your current box
of water and apply editconf -

editconf -f current_conf -o water_film_conf -box 3 3 3

Finally, just start MD run with a water_film_conf. You'll have the
same periodic box , but water molecules will be present only at its
center surrounded by vacuum in one (Z) direction.

Happy GROMACSing,

Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.
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[gmx-users] Re: Re: Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread Vitaly Chaban
You SHOULD bring water to EQUILIBRIUM starting from 3x3x9 box with
water at the center of this box. You will NEVER get EQUILIBRIUM water
film using 3x3x0.8.




 Yes. I should first run the 3x3x0.8 water to make the water

 in equilibrium. And then i use editconf to put the water at the centre of

 3x3x9 box, so the film was 0.8 nm, the Z dimension is 9 nm, so there will be
 film.

 I want to simulate the rupture of the thickness of water film.



 If i directly put the  3x3x0.8 water in the 3x3x9 box, i will try to see the
 result.



 I



 At 2010-12-17 13:12:43,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:

I still do not understand what physical system you want to create in
the MD system or what phenomenon you want to reproduce.

If you need a water film, then the only solution is to follow my
former suggestion.

In no case should you use 3x3x0.8 NPT MD box! If somebody suggested
you to do such thing, then this person simply does not understand
classical MD simulations.

--
Dr.Vitaly V. Chaban






On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:48 PM, gromacs ptf1...@163.com wrote:
 OK. I will use your method. But i am afraid there will be something wrong. Because generally, i should run the 3x3x0.8 NPT water, and then i use editconf to add the water to 3x3x3. If i donot run 3x3x0.8, i may not be able to run the final interface box. Because the water in the box is not at proper situation or position. Anyway, i will have a try first.

 If i have problem or success, i will give an answer to all.
 At 2010-12-17 09:51:57,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, gromacs -

Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something
with any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using
classical FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the
z-side.

--
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.


 Thanks very much. I use the cutoff=0.38, because the cutoff should be smaller than the half box size. I guess it may be the Z dimension is too small, Plus the PBC. But when i use 1.8x1.8x1.8nm bulk water, all results are OK.

 My teacher wants me to simulate 3x3x0.8, 3x3x0.9 nm water film's rupture. So i have to run bulk 3x3x0.8 water and then add box to 3x3x9 to form interface.

 So if i want to run run bulk 3x3x0.8 water, how could i do? which FF should i use? the high T may be due to EM not success??


I believe you use the term bulk water in another sense as compared
to all other guys here. When people say bulk liquid they imply the
endless ocean of this liquid. It is not important what particular side
lengths you have, since due to PBC you get infinitively large system.

I suspect your teacher wants you to obtain a film of water that would
be about 3 molecular layers wide. That's easy. Take your current box
of water and apply editconf -

editconf -f current_conf -o water_film_conf -box 3 3 3

Finally, just start MD run with a water_film_conf. You'll have the
same periodic box , but water molecules will be present only at its
center surrounded by vacuum in one (Z) direction.

Happy GROMACSing,

Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.



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[gmx-users] Re: Re: Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread Vitaly Chaban
Another issue that you will get in future. With such a system you
should use NVT ensemble to maintain liquid-vapor interface in your
system. Generally, NPT also can be used, but before you need run NVT
anyway in order to create this liquid-vapor interface. Otherwise, the
system will collapse at the first steps.

Good luck.

Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban





On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 You SHOULD bring water to EQUILIBRIUM starting from 3x3x9 box with
 water at the center of this box. You will NEVER get EQUILIBRIUM water
 film using 3x3x0.8.




 Yes. I should first run the 3x3x0.8 water to make the water

 in equilibrium. And then i use editconf to put the water at the centre of

 3x3x9 box, so the film was 0.8 nm, the Z dimension is 9 nm, so there will be
 film.

 I want to simulate the rupture of the thickness of water film.



 If i directly put the  3x3x0.8 water in the 3x3x9 box, i will try to see the
 result.



 I



 At 2010-12-17 13:12:43,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:

I still do not understand what physical system you want to create in
the MD system or what phenomenon you want to reproduce.

If you need a water film, then the only solution is to follow my
former suggestion.

In no case should you use 3x3x0.8 NPT MD box! If somebody suggested
you to do such thing, then this person simply does not understand
classical MD simulations.

--
Dr.Vitaly V. Chaban






On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:48 PM, gromacs ptf1...@163.com wrote:
 OK. I will use your method. But i am afraid there will be something wrong. Because generally, i should run the 3x3x0.8 NPT water, and then i use editconf to add the water to 3x3x3. If i donot run 3x3x0.8, i may not be able to run the final interface box. Because the water in the box is not at proper situation or position. Anyway, i will have a try first.

 If i have problem or success, i will give an answer to all.
 At 2010-12-17 09:51:57,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, gromacs -

Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something
with any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using
classical FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the
z-side.

--
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.


 Thanks very much. I use the cutoff=0.38, because the cutoff should be smaller than the half box size. I guess it may be the Z dimension is too small, Plus the PBC. But when i use 1.8x1.8x1.8nm bulk water, all results are OK.

 My teacher wants me to simulate 3x3x0.8, 3x3x0.9 nm water film's rupture. So i have to run bulk 3x3x0.8 water and then add box to 3x3x9 to form interface.

 So if i want to run run bulk 3x3x0.8 water, how could i do? which FF should i use? the high T may be due to EM not success??


I believe you use the term bulk water in another sense as compared
to all other guys here. When people say bulk liquid they imply the
endless ocean of this liquid. It is not important what particular side
lengths you have, since due to PBC you get infinitively large system.

I suspect your teacher wants you to obtain a film of water that would
be about 3 molecular layers wide. That's easy. Take your current box
of water and apply editconf -

editconf -f current_conf -o water_film_conf -box 3 3 3

Finally, just start MD run with a water_film_conf. You'll have the
same periodic box , but water molecules will be present only at its
center surrounded by vacuum in one (Z) direction.

Happy GROMACSing,

Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Rochester, U.S.A.




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Re: [gmx-users] Re:Re: Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Abraham


On 12/17/10, gromacs  ptf1...@163.com wrote:
 Yes. I should first run the 3x3x0.8 water to make the water 
 
 
 in equilibrium.
 
 

No. Any box dimension below about 2nm is nonsense with a normal force field.

You want a film in vacuum, so use a box that is large enough to contain both 
the film and enough vacuum that the films cannot feel each other. So your box 
dimension in the direction normal to the film must be at least the thickness of 
the film plus twice rcoulomb.

NVT will also be important for equilibration, per Vitaly's comments.

You may also need to use a very short MD timestep - films are intrinsically 
less stable than bulk solvent, and the normal values are all for bulk, 
condensed media.

Mark


 
 And then i use editconf to put the water at the centre of 
 
 
 3x3x9 box, so the film was 0.8 nm, the Z dimension is 9 nm, so there will be 
 film.
 
 
 I want to simulate the rupture of the thickness of water film. 
 
 
  
 
 
 If i directly put the  3x3x0.8 water in the 3x3x9 box, i will try to see the 
 result.
 
 
  
 
 
 I
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 At 2010-12-17 13:12:43,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I still do not understand what physical system you want to create in
 the MD system or what phenomenon you want to reproduce.
 
 If you need a water film, then the only solution is to follow my
 former suggestion.
 
 In no case should you use 3x3x0.8 NPT MD box! If somebody suggested
 you to do such thing, then this person simply does not understand
 classical MD simulations.
 
 --
 Dr.Vitaly V. Chaban
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:48 PM, gromacs ptf1...@163.com wrote:
  OK. I will use your method. But i am afraid there will be something wrong. Because generally, i should run the 3x3x0.8 NPT water, and then i use editconf to add the water to 3x3x3. If i donot run 3x3x0.8, i may not be able to run the final interface box. Because the water in the box is not at proper situation or position. Anyway, i will have a try first.
 
  If i have problem or success, i will give an answer to all.
  At 2010-12-17 09:51:57,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey, gromacs -
 
 Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something
 with any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using
 classical FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the
 z-side.
 
 --
 Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
 Rochester, U.S.A.
 
 
  Thanks very much. I use the cutoff=0.38, because the cutoff should be smaller than the half box size. I guess it may be the Z dimension is too small, Plus the PBC. But when i use 1.8x1.8x1.8nm bulk water, all results are OK.
 
  My teacher wants me to simulate 3x3x0.8, 3x3x0.9 nm water film's rupture. So i have to run bulk 3x3x0.8 water and then add box to 3x3x9 to form interface.
 
  So if i want to run run bulk 3x3x0.8 water, how could i do? which FF should i use? the high T may be due to EM not success??
 
 
 I believe you use the term bulk water in another sense as compared
 to all other guys here. When people say bulk liquid they imply the
 endless ocean of this liquid. It is not important what particular side
 lengths you have, since due to PBC you get infinitively large system.
 
 I suspect your teacher wants you to obtain a film of water that would
 be about 3 molecular layers wide. That's easy. Take your current box
 of water and apply editconf -
 
 editconf -f current_conf -o water_film_conf -box 3 3 3
 
 Finally, just start MD run with a water_film_conf. You'll have the
 same periodic box , but water molecules will be present only at its
 center surrounded by vacuum in one (Z) direction.
 
 Happy GROMACSing,
 
 Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
 Rochester, U.S.A.
 
 
 
 

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Re: [gmx-users] Question about Extention simulation in REMD

2010-12-16 Thread Qin Qiao
Thanks!

But still sth strange: I found the total energy is not identical between the
last frame of the previous REMD and the first frame of the next REMD in one
replica.

last frame of the previous: 500.00  -372343.906250
first frame of the next:  0.00  -361778.375000

I wonder whether there's some problem and what caused it..

My setting
In the .mdp of the previous simulation, gen_vel was on;
I didn't record the velocity by putting nstvout =0;
I used xtcgrp = Protein.

Best

Qin

2010/12/15 Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu



 Qin Qiao wrote:

 Dear Sir or Madam,

 I wonder how to continue a REMD running using .cpt file in Gromacs 4.5.1.
 Since I ran a REMD of 56 replicas, there are one cpt file for each replica..
 I couldn't do it by

 tpbconv -s previous.tpr -extend timetoextendby -o next.tpr

 mdrun -s next.tpr -cpi previous.cpt


 I guess it's not for an iterative line in the answer in
 http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg33566.html, since
 the mdrun should run simultaneously.


 The iterative approach Mark describes in that post is for the tpbconv step.
 Simply extend all of your .tpr files to generate new ones (iterate over all
 your .tpr files), then proceed with mdrun as you would normally, making use
 of the -cpi feature.

 -Justin


  Could you give some advice? Thanks.

 Best,

 Qin


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Re: [gmx-users] Re:Re: Re: water genbox 3x3x0.8 EM not successful T not high

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Abraham


On 12/17/10, Mark Abraham  mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 
 
 On 12/17/10, gromacs  ptf1...@163.com wrote:
  Yes. I should first run the 3x3x0.8 water to make the water 
  
  
  in equilibrium.
  
  
 
 No. Any box dimension below about 2nm is nonsense with a normal force field.
 
 You want a film in vacuum, so use a box that is large enough to contain both 
 the film and enough vacuum that the films cannot feel each other. So your box 
 dimension in the direction normal to the film must be at least the thickness 
 of the film plus twice rcoulomb.
 

Or, use pbc=xy. See manual 7.3.9

Mark


 
 
 NVT will also be important for equilibration, per Vitaly's comments.
 
 You may also need to use a very short MD timestep - films are intrinsically 
 less stable than bulk solvent, and the normal values are all for bulk, 
 condensed media.
 
 Mark
 
 
  
  And then i use editconf to put the water at the centre of 
  
  
  3x3x9 box, so the film was 0.8 nm, the Z dimension is 9 nm, so there will 
  be film.
  
  
  I want to simulate the rupture of the thickness of water film. 
  
  
   
  
  
  If i directly put the  3x3x0.8 water in the 3x3x9 box, i will try to see 
  the result.
  
  
   
  
  
  I
  
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  At 2010-12-17 13:12:43,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  I still do not understand what physical system you want to create in
  the MD system or what phenomenon you want to reproduce.
  
  If you need a water film, then the only solution is to follow my
  former suggestion.
  
  In no case should you use 3x3x0.8 NPT MD box! If somebody suggested
  you to do such thing, then this person simply does not understand
  classical MD simulations.
  
  --
  Dr.Vitaly V. Chaban
  
  
  
  
  
  
  On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:48 PM, gromacs ptf1...@163.com wrote:
   OK. I will use your method. But i am afraid there will be something wrong. Because generally, i should run the 3x3x0.8 NPT water, and then i use editconf to add the water to 3x3x3. If i donot run 3x3x0.8, i may not be able to run the final interface box. Because the water in the box is not at proper situation or position. Anyway, i will have a try first.
  
   If i have problem or success, i will give an answer to all.
   At 2010-12-17 09:51:57,Vitaly Chaban vvcha...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey, gromacs -
  
  Nice to hear from you here... It is a bad idea to simulate something
  with any cartesian dimension lower than a couple of nanometers using
  classical FFs.  All your problems are generated by 0.8 nm of the
  z-side.
  
  --
  Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
  Rochester, U.S.A.
  
  
   Thanks very much. I use the cutoff=0.38, because the cutoff should be smaller than the half box size. I guess it may be the Z dimension is too small, Plus the PBC. But when i use 1.8x1.8x1.8nm bulk water, all results are OK.
  
   My teacher wants me to simulate 3x3x0.8, 3x3x0.9 nm water film's rupture. So i have to run bulk 3x3x0.8 water and then add box to 3x3x9 to form interface.
  
   So if i want to run run bulk 3x3x0.8 water, how could i do? which FF should i use? the high T may be due to EM not success??
  
  
  I believe you use the term bulk water in another sense as compared
  to all other guys here. When people say bulk liquid they imply the
  endless ocean of this liquid. It is not important what particular side
  lengths you have, since due to PBC you get infinitively large system.
  
  I suspect your teacher wants you to obtain a film of water that would
  be about 3 molecular layers wide. That's easy. Take your current box
  of water and apply editconf -
  
  editconf -f current_conf -o water_film_conf -box 3 3 3
  
  Finally, just start MD run with a water_film_conf. You'll have the
  same periodic box , but water molecules will be present only at its
  center surrounded by vacuum in one (Z) direction.
  
  Happy GROMACSing,
  
  Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
  Rochester, U.S.A.
  
  
  
  
  
 
 

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Re: [gmx-users] Question about Extention simulation in REMD

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Abraham


On 12/17/10, Qin Qiao  qiaoqi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks! 
 
 But still sth strange: I found the total energy is not identical between the 
 last frame of the previous REMD and the first frame of the next REMD in one 
 replica. 
 
 last frame of the previous: 500.00  -372343.906250
 
 first frame of the next:  0.00  -361778.375000
 
 I wonder whether there's some problem and what caused it..
 

OK, we'll need to see the exact sequence of commands that produced your 
observations, i.e. mdrun, then tpbconv, then mdrun. The fact that you're 
managing to get the time reset to zero indicates you've done something wrong. 
As a guess, you didn't use the right .cpt file with the second mdrun -cpi.


 
 
 My setting
 In the .mdp of the previous simulation, gen_vel was on; I didn't record the 
 velocity by putting nstvout =0; I used xtcgrp = Protein. 
 

These don't matter.

Mark


 
 Best
 
 Qin
 
 2010/12/15 Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Qin Qiao wrote:
  
  
   
   Dear Sir or Madam,
   
   
   
   I wonder how to continue a REMD running using .cpt file in Gromacs 4.5.1. 
   Since I ran a REMD of 56 replicas, there are one cpt file for each 
   replica.. I couldn't do it by
   
   
   
   tpbconv -s previous.tpr -extend timetoextendby -o next.tpr
   
   
   
   mdrun -s next.tpr -cpi previous.cpt
   
   
   
   
   
   I guess it's not for an iterative line in the answer in 
   http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg33566.html, since 
   the mdrun should run simultaneously.
   
   
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
  The iterative approach Mark describes in that post is for the tpbconv step. 
  Simply extend all of your .tpr files to generate new ones (iterate over all 
  your .tpr files), then proceed with mdrun as you would normally, making use 
  of the -cpi feature.
  
  
  
  
  -Justin
  
  
  
  
   
   Could you give some advice? Thanks.
   
   
   
   Best,
   
   
   
   Qin
   
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
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  ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
  
  MILES-IGERT Trainee
  
  Department of Biochemistry
  
  Virginia Tech
  
  Blacksburg, VA
  
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