[gmx-users] Questions concerning autocorrealtion function

2011-01-30 Thread Thomas Koller
Hello!

i)Here are the commands for my problem with the autocorrelation function which 
I mentioned in mails before:

g_dist -f traj.trr -s topol.tpr -n index.ndx -o dist.xvg

g_analyze -f dist.xvg -ac autocorr.xvg -P 2

Fatal error:
Incompatible mode bits: normal and vector (or Legendre)

What is the problem here?

ii) Usually the rdfs are calculated until half the box length. How can I 
increase the distance range?

Regards,
Thomas


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[gmx-users] specific heat

2011-01-30 Thread leila separdar
is there any command in gromacs that gives me a list of data points for
specific heat and suseptibility as a function of temperature or time ?
if not, then how can i calculate specific heat or polt Cv as a fuction of T?
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Re: [gmx-users] specific heat

2011-01-30 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2011-01-30 11.43, leila separdar wrote:


is there any command in gromacs that gives me a list of data points for
specific heat and suseptibility as a function of temperature or time ?
if not, then how can i calculate specific heat or polt Cv as a fuction of T?

This is not trivial. You can compute the specific heat from fluctuations 
in the enthalpy or total energy:


cP = (H^2 - H^2)/kB T^2 (NPT sim)

cV = (Etot^2 - Etot^2)/kB T^2 (NVT sim)

In addition you need to apply quantum corrections which are not 
negligible (see manual chapter 1). You can do this using a normal mode 
analysis.


The implementation in released versions of g_energy is not correct, but 
as it happens I just committed a new version of g_energy and g_nmeig. If 
you download gromacs from git and checkout the release-4-5-patches 
branch everything should be there to compute cP/cV. Run g_nmeig -h for 
more information.


As regards susceptibility, do you mean the dielectric constant? That can 
be computed using g_dipoles *from a trajectory* - not from an energy 
file anymore.

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[gmx-users] PME parameter in GROMACS

2011-01-30 Thread aldi asmadi
Dear all,

I would like to know if there is a way in GROMACS to find or specify the
value of kappa (or Ewald coupling/splitting parameter) for the PME technique
that we use in our simulation. In my case, I would like to perform
simulations with a specified kappa value and a grid size of A x A x A for
the PME parameter.  If I understand it correctly, the grid can be specified
by the following in GROMACS: fourier_nx = A, fourier_ny = 6, and fourier_nz
= A.  For the kappa, I could not find any information about it so far from
the manual or our mailing list.

Many thanks.

Best regards,
Aldi
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Re: [gmx-users] PME parameter in GROMACS

2011-01-30 Thread Florian Dommert
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On 01/30/2011 01:18 PM, aldi asmadi wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 I would like to know if there is a way in GROMACS to find or specify the
 value of kappa (or Ewald coupling/splitting parameter) for the PME
 technique that we use in our simulation. In my case, I would like to
 perform simulations with a specified kappa value and a grid size of A x
 A x A for the PME parameter.  If I understand it correctly, the grid can
 be specified by the following in GROMACS: fourier_nx = A, fourier_ny =
 6, and fourier_nz = A.  For the kappa, I could not find any information
 about it so far from the manual or our mailing list. 
 
 Many thanks.
 
 Best regards,
 Aldi 
 

Unfortunately, Gromacs does not allow to input the splitting parameter
directly, however just a small change in src/gmxlib/ewald_util.c is
necessary to interpret a negative ewald_rtol in the mdp file as the
splitting parameter. Therefore add after the declaration of the
variables in calc_ewaldcoeff (line 53):

if (dtol0.0){
return -dtol;
}

If you are furthermore interested in an estimate of the error introduced
by your SPME parameters, try the tool g_pme_error, which also tells you
in the output file the corresponding splitting parameter \beta for a
certain cut-off and ewald_rtol. Together with g_tune_pme I have realized
that a quite remarkable gain in performance can be achieved, if the
tools are used hand in hand.

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Re: [gmx-users] energy minimization of a charged system in vacuum

2011-01-30 Thread ms


On 29/01/11 05:08, Matt Chan wrote:

Perfect. This is great reading.

Thanks for the pointers Mark.

Matt

On 01/28/2011 06:50 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:

On 29/01/2011 9:57 AM, Matthew Chan wrote:

Hi,

I'm a first time GROMACS user. I've got 2 questions, which I'll ask
in separate emails. The first is about running EM on a charged
protein in vacuum.

I'm presently walking through some of the tutorials and trying to
simplify them for my purposes. One is the energy minimization of the
1AKI lysozyme protein. I would like to minimize this protein in
vacuum instead of solution as the tutorial demonstrates. Since the
genion program replaces water molecules with ions to balance the
charge of the system and there's no water, I'm having trouble running
the simulation with a neutral system.

My question is what effect does running a simulation with a charged
system have? I recall reading that something related to PME
calculations assumes the system is neutral, but it did not specify
whether it was referring to MD or EM. From the mailing list, I have
only been able to determine that running a charged system in solution
makes no sense biologically.


Some threads elsewhere cover these issues:
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/namd/mailing_list/namd-l/3976.html
http://archive.ambermd.org/200712/0223.html

Mark



Since I have exactly the same needs (charged system in vacuum) I jump in...

In http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
it says:

Note for PME users: It is possible to use a uniform neutralizing 
background charge in PME to compensate for a system with a net 
background charge. There is probably nothing wrong with this in 
principle, because the uniform charge will not perturb the dynamics.


From the reading above, it seems that namd/amber implementations 
already *implicitly* use this kind of compensation by ignoring terms in 
the summation. Is it the same for GROMACS?


thanks,
M.

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Re: [gmx-users] energy minimization of a charged system in vacuum

2011-01-30 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2011-01-30 16.02, ms wrote:


On 29/01/11 05:08, Matt Chan wrote:

Perfect. This is great reading.

Thanks for the pointers Mark.

Matt

On 01/28/2011 06:50 PM, Mark Abraham wrote:

On 29/01/2011 9:57 AM, Matthew Chan wrote:

Hi,

I'm a first time GROMACS user. I've got 2 questions, which I'll ask
in separate emails. The first is about running EM on a charged
protein in vacuum.

I'm presently walking through some of the tutorials and trying to
simplify them for my purposes. One is the energy minimization of the
1AKI lysozyme protein. I would like to minimize this protein in
vacuum instead of solution as the tutorial demonstrates. Since the
genion program replaces water molecules with ions to balance the
charge of the system and there's no water, I'm having trouble running
the simulation with a neutral system.

My question is what effect does running a simulation with a charged
system have? I recall reading that something related to PME
calculations assumes the system is neutral, but it did not specify
whether it was referring to MD or EM. From the mailing list, I have
only been able to determine that running a charged system in solution
makes no sense biologically.


Some threads elsewhere cover these issues:
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/namd/mailing_list/namd-l/3976.html
http://archive.ambermd.org/200712/0223.html

Mark



Since I have exactly the same needs (charged system in vacuum) I jump in...

In http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
it says:

Note for PME users: It is possible to use a uniform neutralizing
background charge in PME to compensate for a system with a net
background charge. There is probably nothing wrong with this in
principle, because the uniform charge will not perturb the dynamics.

I'd like to comment that, this is tricky business. If your charges are 
spread out homogeneously it may be OK, but in practice this is often not 
the case (e.g. side chains on a protein). One should try to avoid this 
if at all possible.



 From the reading above, it seems that namd/amber implementations
already *implicitly* use this kind of compensation by ignoring terms in
the summation. Is it the same for GROMACS?

thanks,
M.

Gromacs does not ignore any terms in the simulations if I am not 
mistaken. It also computes PME at every step in contrast to NAMD (don't 
know about Amber).


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Re: [gmx-users] energy minimization of a charged system in vacuum

2011-01-30 Thread ms

On 30/01/11 15:41, David van der Spoel wrote:


My question is what effect does running a simulation with a charged
system have? I recall reading that something related to PME
calculations assumes the system is neutral, but it did not specify
whether it was referring to MD or EM. From the mailing list, I have
only been able to determine that running a charged system in solution
makes no sense biologically.


Some threads elsewhere cover these issues:
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/namd/mailing_list/namd-l/3976.html
http://archive.ambermd.org/200712/0223.html

Mark



Since I have exactly the same needs (charged system in vacuum) I jump
in...

In http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
it says:

Note for PME users: It is possible to use a uniform neutralizing
background charge in PME to compensate for a system with a net
background charge. There is probably nothing wrong with this in
principle, because the uniform charge will not perturb the dynamics.


I'd like to comment that, this is tricky business. If your charges are
spread out homogeneously it may be OK, but in practice this is often not
the case (e.g. side chains on a protein). One should try to avoid this
if at all possible.


Oh, this is very bad news. Could you elaborate on that? (I have a CG 
model where this would be badly needed).


Can spreading neutralizing charges along the other chain atoms be a 
viable alternative for enough atoms and enough low charge? (e.g. if I 
have 100 atoms and a +5 net charge, adding a -0.05 charge on all others?)



From the reading above, it seems that namd/amber implementations
already *implicitly* use this kind of compensation by ignoring terms in
the summation. Is it the same for GROMACS?

thanks,
M.


Gromacs does not ignore any terms in the simulations if I am not
mistaken. It also computes PME at every step in contrast to NAMD (don't
know about Amber).


Thanks.
m.

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Re: [gmx-users] energy minimization of a charged system in vacuum

2011-01-30 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2011-01-30 17.08, ms wrote:

On 30/01/11 15:41, David van der Spoel wrote:


My question is what effect does running a simulation with a charged
system have? I recall reading that something related to PME
calculations assumes the system is neutral, but it did not specify
whether it was referring to MD or EM. From the mailing list, I have
only been able to determine that running a charged system in solution
makes no sense biologically.


Some threads elsewhere cover these issues:
http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/namd/mailing_list/namd-l/3976.html
http://archive.ambermd.org/200712/0223.html

Mark



Since I have exactly the same needs (charged system in vacuum) I jump
in...

In http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
it says:

Note for PME users: It is possible to use a uniform neutralizing
background charge in PME to compensate for a system with a net
background charge. There is probably nothing wrong with this in
principle, because the uniform charge will not perturb the dynamics.


I'd like to comment that, this is tricky business. If your charges are
spread out homogeneously it may be OK, but in practice this is often not
the case (e.g. side chains on a protein). One should try to avoid this
if at all possible.


Oh, this is very bad news. Could you elaborate on that? (I have a CG
model where this would be badly needed).

With homogeneous I mean a solution of ions.


Can spreading neutralizing charges along the other chain atoms be a
viable alternative for enough atoms and enough low charge? (e.g. if I
have 100 atoms and a +5 net charge, adding a -0.05 charge on all others?)

Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Try looking for solutions with 
explicit counter ions.



From the reading above, it seems that namd/amber implementations
already *implicitly* use this kind of compensation by ignoring terms in
the summation. Is it the same for GROMACS?

thanks,
M.


Gromacs does not ignore any terms in the simulations if I am not
mistaken. It also computes PME at every step in contrast to NAMD (don't
know about Amber).


Thanks.
m.




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[gmx-users] ngmx doesnot work; CH3-CH2-OH

2011-01-30 Thread gromacs
Hi Everyone,
 
Program ngmx, VERSION 4.0.7
Source code file: ../../../../src/gmxlib/tpxio.c, line: 1708

Fatal error:
reading tpx file (md1.tpr) version 73 with version 58 program

I installed 4.0.7 before, and now i installed 4.5.3. How can i use ngmx now?
 
 The second question is running C2H5OH (ethanol). It should be 9 atoms per 
molecule. But i download the .top using PRDUG, the C2H5OH has 4 atoms. So i can 
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Re: [gmx-users] ngmx doesnot work; CH3-CH2-OH

2011-01-30 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



gromacs wrote:

Hi Everyone,
 
Program ngmx, VERSION 4.0.7

Source code file: ../../../../src/gmxlib/tpxio.c, line: 1708

Fatal error:
reading tpx file (md1.tpr) version 73 with version 58 program
I installed 4.0.7 before, and now i installed 4.5.3. How can i use ngmx now?
 


You need a compatible .tpr file, i.e. one generated with version 4.5.3, 
otherwise you have to use a 4.0.7 .tpr file with the 4.0.7 version of ngmx. 
Higher versions can read older file formats, but the reverse is generally not true.


 The second question is running C2H5OH (ethanol). It should be 9 atoms 
per molecule. But i download the .top using PRDUG, the C2H5OH has 4 
atoms. So i can still run, but some H atoms are ingored. Is it still no 
problem?





PRODRG produces united-atom topologies for the Gromos96 force fields.  If you 
need or want a different force field, you need to build a suitable topology by 
some other method.


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Re: [gmx-users] ngmx doesnot work; CH3-CH2-OH

2011-01-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 31/01/2011 11:15 AM, gromacs wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Program ngmx, VERSION 4.0.7
Source code file: ../../../../src/gmxlib/tpxio.c, line: 1708

Fatal error:
reading tpx file (md1.tpr) version 73 with version 58 program
I installed 4.0.7 before, and now i installed 4.5.3. How can i use 
ngmx now?


You haven't configured 4.5.3 to build ngmx, haven't installed it, or 
haven't arranged your path to use it. See 
http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Installation_Instructions
The second question is running C2H5OH (ethanol). It should be 9 atoms 
per molecule. But i download the .top using PRDUG, the C2H5OH has 4 
atoms. So i can still run, but some H atoms are ingored. Is it still 
no problem?


If you ask for a united-atom representation, you usually get one. See 
http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Related_Software/PRODRG


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Re: [gmx-users] ngmx doesnot work; CH3-CH2-OH

2011-01-30 Thread Mark Abraham

On 31/01/2011 11:34 AM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



gromacs wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Program ngmx, VERSION 4.0.7
Source code file: ../../../../src/gmxlib/tpxio.c, line: 1708

Fatal error:
reading tpx file (md1.tpr) version 73 with version 58 program
I installed 4.0.7 before, and now i installed 4.5.3. How can i use 
ngmx now?




You need a compatible .tpr file, i.e. one generated with version 
4.5.3, otherwise you have to use a 4.0.7 .tpr file with the 4.0.7 
version of ngmx. Higher versions can read older file formats, but the 
reverse is generally not true.


The OP is using 4.0.7 ngmx with 4.5.3 .tpr file. They have to use 
software that is at least as recent as their .tpr.


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[gmx-users] luck

2011-01-30 Thread Mr Bernard Ramos
Hi everyone!
 
I have two questions.
 
1. after I installed gromacs 4.5.3 and which mdrun was able to give the 
correct path, I was not able to run luck. Instead, luck gives an error 
command not found. Is this ok? What went wrong? Do I need to install 
again gromacs?
 
2. I tried doing pdb2gmx. The error points the structure file *.pdb as the 
error. Does this in dicate that the program was not installed properly or there 
is an error with the pdb file.
 
 
Thanks 


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Re: [gmx-users] solvation_box_preparation

2011-01-30 Thread shahid nayeem
Please tell me where I am wrong. I downloaded pdb of chaps and used
prodrg server to get .itp and .gro file. Then I checked .itp for any
missing charge and I found it correct. Then I created 6.0x6.0x6.0 box
with genbox inserting 7 molecules of chaps.gro. Then again using
genbox and -maxsol I put 510 spc.itp in the box to get a density
approaching 1. Then I did steepest descent energy minimization with
constraints = none, for emtotal=2000 and emstep=3000. Up to this the
gromacs runs fine. when I start simulated annealing for cooling at
high pressure with constraint = all_bonds the programme gives fatal
error linc warning and stops. If I do energy minimization with
constraint =all_bonds then also with some error of linc wrning the
minimization is completed. When I do minimization without adding water
then there is no linc warning and minimization is completed but with
final positive potential energy. Then as suggested by Justin I used
smaller box and there also in simulated annealing stage the system
gives linc warning and the programme stops with fatal error. Please
tell me where I am wrong.
shahid nayeem

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 On 28/01/2011 3:51 PM, shahid nayeem wrote:

 Thanks Justin
 I tried with new box size of 2.8x2.8x2.8 . During energy minimization
 with steepest descent to force of 2000 and constraint=none, the system
 converged in 754 steps with positive potential energy. In subsequent
 simulated annealing with constraint all bonds it starts giving link
 warning in 0 step with rms 7407.805164, max 66989.116545 (between atom
 94 and 117) and a list of bond thar rotated more than 30 degree almost
 atom number belonging to chaps molecule.

 You've set up a system that isn't stable, but we don't have enough
 information to have any idea why. I tried with new box size doesn't go
 close to describing your method in enough detail for anyone to know where
 you went wrong.

 See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up for generic
 tips

 Mark

 Please help.
 shahid Nayeem

 On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Justin A. Lemkuljalem...@vt.edu  wrote:

 shahid nayeem wrote:

 Dear All

 I am sending this mail again on user list because my reply to Mark’s
 query was not uploaded on the list.

 Original messge:

 I am trying to prepare a solvation box of chaps. After generating .itp
 and .gro at ProDrg and thorough check of charges, I started with a box
 size of 6x6x6. Energy minimization, simulated annealing (Cooling under
 high pressure and again heating at normal pressure) as well as final
 equilibration ran smoothly. But finally I get a box where all water
 molecules get accumulated in two three small region within the box and
 all chaps molecules gets accumulated in another small regions.I wanted
 near random uniform distribution of chaps in water. Any help from
 user, where I am wrong and what should I do.

 Reply to query.

 I created a box of 6x6x6 inserting 7 molecule of chaps with (genbox
 –ci 7 chaps.gro).Then I solvated the output box  with genbox using
 -maxsol 500 and spc216.gro. On visualization, at this stage itself
 uniform solvation did not occur (I got water in one region and chaps
 molecule in other region) but I observed a similar situation while

 If your box was not completely solvated, then don't use -maxsol.  A box
 of
 6x6x6 nm should require more than 500 molecules of water to fill.  If
 you're
 trying to achieve some specific mole fraction or concentration, then
 re-figure your box size.

 -Justin

 preparing 10M urea salvation box. This was followed by 1ns simulated
 annealing from temp 300K to 0K and pressure 100 bar, then 1ns
 simulated annealing from temp. 0k to 300k and then ins equilibriation
 at this temperature. In case of urea finally I got uniformly solvated
 urea_water_box but in chaps I couldn’t get it.

 Shahid Nayeem

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Re: [gmx-users] luck

2011-01-30 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:

Hi everyone!
 
I have two questions.
 
1. after I installed gromacs 4.5.3 and which mdrun was able to give 
the correct path, I was not able to run luck. Instead, luck gives an 
error command not found. Is this ok? What went wrong? Do I need to 
install again gromacs?
 


The program is now called g_luck.

2. I tried doing pdb2gmx. The error points the structure file 
*.pdb as the error. Does this in dicate that the program was not 
installed properly or there is an error with the pdb file.
 


If the program has given you a fatal error, then the program is correctly 
installed and working.  It is your input that is somehow wrong.  Without the 
actual error message, it's impossible to say what's wrong.


-Justin

 
Thanks 





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Re: [gmx-users] solvation_box_preparation

2011-01-30 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



shahid nayeem wrote:

Please tell me where I am wrong. I downloaded pdb of chaps and used
prodrg server to get .itp and .gro file. Then I checked .itp for any
missing charge and I found it correct. Then I created 6.0x6.0x6.0 box


PRODRG doesn't have a problem of missing charges.  It provides notoriously 
incorrect charges.



with genbox inserting 7 molecules of chaps.gro. Then again using
genbox and -maxsol I put 510 spc.itp in the box to get a density
approaching 1. Then I did steepest descent energy minimization with
constraints = none, for emtotal=2000 and emstep=3000. Up to this the


These settings make no sense.  An emtol of 2000 is very high, and emstep of 3000 
is total nonsense.  How well did you EM converge?  What were the values of the 
potential energy and maximum force?



gromacs runs fine. when I start simulated annealing for cooling at
high pressure with constraint = all_bonds the programme gives fatal
error linc warning and stops. If I do energy minimization with
constraint =all_bonds then also with some error of linc wrning the
minimization is completed. When I do minimization without adding water
then there is no linc warning and minimization is completed but with
final positive potential energy. Then as suggested by Justin I used
smaller box and there also in simulated annealing stage the system
gives linc warning and the programme stops with fatal error. Please
tell me where I am wrong.


How about simplifying the problem.  Does the system run under normal conditions? 
 In other words, can you run normal MD?  You're treating the system very 
harshly with the combination of high pressure and annealing.  Without seeing 
your .mdp file for this process, it's impossible to say how reasonable your 
settings are.


It is also possible that your parameters for CHAPS (if they are the default ones 
from PRODRG) are incorrect.  The charges and charge groups nearly always are. 
Without seeing them, there's nothing better to offer.


-Justin


shahid nayeem

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:

On 28/01/2011 3:51 PM, shahid nayeem wrote:

Thanks Justin
I tried with new box size of 2.8x2.8x2.8 . During energy minimization
with steepest descent to force of 2000 and constraint=none, the system
converged in 754 steps with positive potential energy. In subsequent
simulated annealing with constraint all bonds it starts giving link
warning in 0 step with rms 7407.805164, max 66989.116545 (between atom
94 and 117) and a list of bond thar rotated more than 30 degree almost
atom number belonging to chaps molecule.

You've set up a system that isn't stable, but we don't have enough
information to have any idea why. I tried with new box size doesn't go
close to describing your method in enough detail for anyone to know where
you went wrong.

See http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up for generic
tips

Mark


Please help.
shahid Nayeem

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Justin A. Lemkuljalem...@vt.edu  wrote:

shahid nayeem wrote:

Dear All

I am sending this mail again on user list because my reply to Mark’s
query was not uploaded on the list.

Original messge:

I am trying to prepare a solvation box of chaps. After generating .itp
and .gro at ProDrg and thorough check of charges, I started with a box
size of 6x6x6. Energy minimization, simulated annealing (Cooling under
high pressure and again heating at normal pressure) as well as final
equilibration ran smoothly. But finally I get a box where all water
molecules get accumulated in two three small region within the box and
all chaps molecules gets accumulated in another small regions.I wanted
near random uniform distribution of chaps in water. Any help from
user, where I am wrong and what should I do.

Reply to query.

I created a box of 6x6x6 inserting 7 molecule of chaps with (genbox
–ci 7 chaps.gro).Then I solvated the output box  with genbox using
-maxsol 500 and spc216.gro. On visualization, at this stage itself
uniform solvation did not occur (I got water in one region and chaps
molecule in other region) but I observed a similar situation while

If your box was not completely solvated, then don't use -maxsol.  A box
of
6x6x6 nm should require more than 500 molecules of water to fill.  If
you're
trying to achieve some specific mole fraction or concentration, then
re-figure your box size.

-Justin


preparing 10M urea salvation box. This was followed by 1ns simulated
annealing from temp 300K to 0K and pressure 100 bar, then 1ns
simulated annealing from temp. 0k to 300k and then ins equilibriation
at this temperature. In case of urea finally I got uniformly solvated
urea_water_box but in chaps I couldn’t get it.

Shahid Nayeem

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MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080

Re: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation

2011-01-30 Thread Mark Abraham


On 01/31/11, bharat gupta  bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am completed a 3 ns simulation of a 230 aa protein .. Now I want to check 
 whether the water is entering the proteins and through which side of the 
 protein .. Since the whole protein is surrounded by water I don't know how 
 this can be done .. is there any command to check .. also I have tried doing 
 it in VMD but there I am not able to do so ??
 
 

Use g_select to create index groups of waters within a known distance of a 
central point. Then look at those groups in VMD.

Mark

 
 
 
 
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Re: [gmx-users] luck

2011-01-30 Thread Mr Bernard Ramos
Do I need to type in g_luck instead?

--- On Mon, 1/31/11, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] luck
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:11 PM




Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:
 Hi everyone!
  I have two questions.
  1. after I installed gromacs 4.5.3 and which mdrun was able to give the 
correct path, I was not able to run luck. Instead, luck gives an error 
command not found. Is this ok? What went wrong? Do I need to install again 
gromacs?
  

The program is now called g_luck.

 2. I tried doing pdb2gmx. The error points the structure file *.pdb as 
 the error. Does this in dicate that the program was not installed properly or 
 there is an error with the pdb file.
  

If the program has given you a fatal error, then the program is correctly 
installed and working.  It is your input that is somehow wrong.  Without the 
actual error message, it's impossible to say what's wrong.

-Justin

  Thanks 
 

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Re: [gmx-users] luck

2011-01-30 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:

Do I need to type in g_luck instead?



Typing an email and waiting for a response takes far more time and effort than 
simply trying it yourself ;)


-Justin


--- On *Mon, 1/31/11, Justin A. Lemkul /jalem...@vt.edu/* wrote:


From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] luck
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:11 PM



Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:
  Hi everyone!
   I have two questions.
   1. after I installed gromacs 4.5.3 and which mdrun was able to
give the correct path, I was not able to run luck. Instead, luck
gives an error command not found. Is this ok? What went wrong? Do
I need to install again gromacs?
  


The program is now called g_luck.

  2. I tried doing pdb2gmx. The error points the structure file
*.pdb as the error. Does this in dicate that the program was not
installed properly or there is an error with the pdb file.
  


If the program has given you a fatal error, then the program is
correctly installed and working.  It is your input that is somehow
wrong.  Without the actual error message, it's impossible to say
what's wrong.

-Justin

   Thanks
 

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Re: [gmx-users] luck

2011-01-30 Thread Mr Bernard Ramos
yup, i typed g_luck and it worked. the error that shows is
 
--
File input/output error:
filename.pdb
For more information, visit  
-- 

--- On Mon, 1/31/11, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] luck
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:11 PM




Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:
 Hi everyone!
  I have two questions.
  1. after I installed gromacs 4.5.3 and which mdrun was able to give the 
correct path, I was not able to run luck. Instead, luck gives an error 
command not found. Is this ok? What went wrong? Do I need to install again 
gromacs?
  

The program is now called g_luck.

 2. I tried doing pdb2gmx. The error points the structure file *.pdb as 
 the error. Does this in dicate that the program was not installed properly or 
 there is an error with the pdb file.
  

If the program has given you a fatal error, then the program is correctly 
installed and working.  It is your input that is somehow wrong.  Without the 
actual error message, it's impossible to say what's wrong.

-Justin

  Thanks 
 

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Re: [gmx-users] luck

2011-01-30 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:

yup, i typed g_luck and it worked. the error that shows is
 
--

File input/output error:
filename.pdb
For more information, visit  
-- 



Then filename.pdb doesn't exist.  You need to specify the actual name of your 
input .pdb file; filename.pdb is just a generic name that shows you how to use 
the program.


-Justin


--- On *Mon, 1/31/11, Justin A. Lemkul /jalem...@vt.edu/* wrote:


From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] luck
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:11 PM



Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:
  Hi everyone!
   I have two questions.
   1. after I installed gromacs 4.5.3 and which mdrun was able to
give the correct path, I was not able to run luck. Instead, luck
gives an error command not found. Is this ok? What went wrong? Do
I need to install again gromacs?
  


The program is now called g_luck.

  2. I tried doing pdb2gmx. The error points the structure file
*.pdb as the error. Does this in dicate that the program was not
installed properly or there is an error with the pdb file.
  


If the program has given you a fatal error, then the program is
correctly installed and working.  It is your input that is somehow
wrong.  Without the actual error message, it's impossible to say
what's wrong.

-Justin

   Thanks
 

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Re: [gmx-users] luck

2011-01-30 Thread Mr Bernard Ramos
thanks. 
 
 
Here is the error i mentioned a while back with using pdb2gmx:
 
--
File input/output error:
filename.pdb
For more information, visit  
-- 

thanks for the time 

--- On Mon, 1/31/11, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:


From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] luck
To: Gromacs Users' List gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:33 PM




Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:
 Do I need to type in g_luck instead?
 

Typing an email and waiting for a response takes far more time and effort than 
simply trying it yourself ;)

-Justin

 --- On *Mon, 1/31/11, Justin A. Lemkul /jalem...@vt.edu/* wrote:
 
 
     From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
     Subject: Re: [gmx-users] luck
     To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
     Date: Monday, January 31, 2011, 12:11 PM
 
 
 
     Mr Bernard Ramos wrote:
       Hi everyone!
        I have two questions.
        1. after I installed gromacs 4.5.3 and which mdrun was able to
     give the correct path, I was not able to run luck. Instead, luck
     gives an error command not found. Is this ok? What went wrong? Do
     I need to install again gromacs?
       
     The program is now called g_luck.
 
       2. I tried doing pdb2gmx. The error points the structure file
     *.pdb as the error. Does this in dicate that the program was not
     installed properly or there is an error with the pdb file.
       
     If the program has given you a fatal error, then the program is
     correctly installed and working.  It is your input that is somehow
     wrong.  Without the actual error message, it's impossible to say
     what's wrong.
 
     -Justin
 
        Thanks
      
 
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Re: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation

2011-01-30 Thread bharat gupta
I tracked the movement of water molecules around residues 65 to 67 of my
protein (GFP crystal structure) .. According to the literature water should
not enter the protein (reason being the cage like structure of GFP) .. but
in VMD, 2 water molecules have been tracked to interact with chromophore ...
So , I am a bit confused as it should not have happened ?? ... For my
analysis  I need to check whether the water is entering the protein or not
.. Since I have simulated some variant structures (long loops) of GFP and I
need to check how this structure would or would not lead to the entrance of
water ??

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:



 On 01/31/11, *bharat gupta * bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am completed a 3 ns simulation of a 230 aa protein .. Now I want to check
 whether the water is entering the proteins and through which side of the
 protein .. Since the whole protein is surrounded by water I don't know how
 this can be done .. is there any command to check .. also I have tried doing
 it in VMD but there I am not able to do so ??


 Use g_select to create index groups of waters within a known distance of a
 central point. Then look at those groups in VMD.

 Mark



 Pls help

 --
 Bharat
 Ph.D. Candidate
 Room No. : 7202A, 2nd Floor
 Biomolecular Engineering Laboratory
 Division of Chemical Engineering and Polymer Science
 Pusan National University
 Busan -609735
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[gmx-users] 4.5.3 Installation under Cygwin

2011-01-30 Thread toma0052

Hello,
I am trying to install gromacs 4.5.3 on my desktop under Cygwin. Using 
the installation procedure from the Wiki:

(http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Installation_Instructions/Cygwin_HOWTO
Install fftw-3.2.2 with 
./configure --enable-sse --enable-float

make
make install

Then install gromacs with:
./configure --enable-shared LDFLAGS='-L/usr/local/lib'
make

The installation fails here with many errors not being able to find 
libraries associated with fftw tracing back to this error:


*** Warning: This system can not link to static lib archive 
/usr/local/lib/libfftw3f.la.

*** I have the capability to make that library automatically link in when
*** you link to this library.  But I can only do this if you have a
*** shared version of the library, which you do not appear to have.

The installation procedure from the Wiki works fine with gromacs-4.0.7. 
This error only occurs with the 4.5 series. Are there different default 
settings for where gromacs looks for fftw between 4.0.7 and 4.5.3? Any help 
would be appreciated.


Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [gmx-users] 4.5.3 Installation under Cygwin

2011-01-30 Thread Mark Abraham


On 01/31/11, toma0...@umn.edu wrote:
 Hello,
     I am trying to install gromacs 4.5.3 on my desktop under Cygwin. Using 
 the installation procedure from the Wiki:
 (http://www.gromacs.org/Downloads/Installation_Instructions/Cygwin_HOWTO
 Install fftw-3.2.2 with ./configure --enable-sse --enable-float
 make
 make install
 
 Then install gromacs with:
 ./configure --enable-shared LDFLAGS='-L/usr/local/lib'
 make
 
 The installation fails here with many errors not being able to find libraries 
 associated with fftw tracing back to this error:
 
 *** Warning: This system can not link to static lib archive 
 /usr/local/lib/libfftw3f.la.
 *** I have the capability to make that library automatically link in when
 *** you link to this library.  But I can only do this if you have a
 *** shared version of the library, which you do not appear to have.
 
 The installation procedure from the Wiki works fine with gromacs-4.0.7. This 
 error only occurs with the 4.5 series. Are there different default settings 
 for where gromacs looks for fftw between 4.0.7 and 4.5.3? Any help would be 
 appreciated.
 

I ran into the same issue a while back. I don't know what causes it. I found 
that using a CMake-based build on Cygwin worked.

Mark
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Re: Fwd: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation

2011-01-30 Thread Mark Abraham


On 01/31/11, bharat gupta  bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 
 Date: Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 
 
 
 I tracked the movement of water molecules around residues 65 to 67 of my 
 protein (GFP crystal structure) .. According to the literature water should 
 not enter the protein (reason being the cage like structure of GFP) .. but in 
 VMD, 2 water molecules have been tracked to interact with chromophore ... So 
 , I am a bit confused as it should not have happened ??
 
 

We can't tell. We don't know if your simulation model is flawed, the literature 
is wrong, your modified GFP do let water in, or your observations of 
interacting with the chromophore aren't right.


  ... For my analysis  I need to check whether the water is entering the 
 protein or not .. Since I have simulated some variant structures (long loops) 
 of GFP and I need to check how this structure would or would not lead to the 
 entrance of water ??
 
 

To observe a transit, look for snapshots where they were in one place, and 
snapshots where they were in another.

Mark


 
 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  
  On 01/31/11, bharat gupta  bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:
   
   
   Hi,
   
   I am completed a 3 ns simulation of a 230 aa protein .. Now I want to 
   check whether the water is entering the proteins and through which side 
   of the protein .. Since the whole protein is surrounded by water I don't 
   know how this can be done .. is there any command to check .. also I have 
   tried doing it in VMD but there I am not able to do so ??
   
   
   
   
  
  
  Use g_select to create index groups of waters within a known distance of a 
  central point. Then look at those groups in VMD.
  
  Mark
  
  
  
   
   
   
   
   
   Pls help
   
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   Division of Chemical Engineering and Polymer Science
   Pusan National University
   
   
   
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[gmx-users] Fwd: GROMACS user: error with pdb2gmx

2011-01-30 Thread Mark Abraham
I am not a free private GROMACS help service. Please direct correspondence to 
the users list. Please consider the advice here before doing so 
http://www.gromacs.org/Support

Mark
---BeginMessage---
Hi Mark!
 
Sorry to bother you. I am new to gromacs. I tried using pdb2gmx. However, after 
running it, i get this error message and no new files are created by pdb2gmx. 
It says
 
 
Reading filename.pdb
 
 
--
File input/output error:
filename.pdb
For more information, visit  
-- 
 
It failed reading the input file. the file was a pdb file modified using 
Avogadro, i also tried saving it again using Vega ZZ. please help. what seems 
to be the error.
 
thanks
 
Bernard


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Re: Fwd: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation

2011-01-30 Thread bharat gupta
I followed the lysozyme tutorial step by step and everything seems to be
fine and the literature cannot be wrong as it has been proved ..
I have repeated this simulation second time... I want to ask one thing that
during solvation step and equilibration step water is mixed with the protein
so it means that the structure should not have water inside it during
equilibration step itself or not ?

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:



 On 01/31/11, *bharat gupta * bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org


 I tracked the movement of water molecules around residues 65 to 67 of my
 protein (GFP crystal structure) .. According to the literature water should
 not enter the protein (reason being the cage like structure of GFP) .. but
 in VMD, 2 water molecules have been tracked to interact with chromophore ...
 So , I am a bit confused as it should not have happened ??


 We can't tell. We don't know if your simulation model is flawed, the
 literature is wrong, your modified GFP do let water in, or your observations
 of interacting with the chromophore aren't right.


 ... For my analysis  I need to check whether the water is entering the
 protein or not .. Since I have simulated some variant structures (long
 loops) of GFP and I need to check how this structure would or would not lead
 to the entrance of water ??


 To observe a transit, look for snapshots where they were in one place, and
 snapshots where they were in another.

 Mark



 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:




 On 01/31/11, *bharat gupta * bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am completed a 3 ns simulation of a 230 aa protein .. Now I want to
 check whether the water is entering the proteins and through which side of
 the protein .. Since the whole protein is surrounded by water I don't know
 how this can be done .. is there any command to check .. also I have tried
 doing it in VMD but there I am not able to do so ??


 Use g_select to create index groups of waters within a known distance of a
 central point. Then look at those groups in VMD.

 Mark




 Pls help

 --
 Bharat
 Ph.D. Candidate
 Room No. : 7202A, 2nd Floor
 Biomolecular Engineering Laboratory
 Division of Chemical Engineering and Polymer Science
 Pusan National University
 Busan -609735
 South Korea
 Lab phone no. - +82-51-510-3680, +82-51-583-8343
 Mobile no. - 010-5818-3680
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Re: Fwd: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation

2011-01-30 Thread bharat gupta
I followed the lysozyme tutorial step by step and everything seems to be
fine and the literature cannot be wrong as it has been proved ..
I have repeated this simulation second time... I want to ask one thing that
during solvation step and equilibration step water is mixed with the protein
so it means that the structure should not have water inside it during
equilibration step itself or not ?

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:50 PM, bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 I followed the lysozyme tutorial step by step and everything seems to be
 fine and the literature cannot be wrong as it has been proved ..
 I have repeated this simulation second time... I want to ask one thing that
 during solvation step and equilibration step water is mixed with the protein
 so it means that the structure should not have water inside it during
 equilibration step itself or not ?


 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:



 On 01/31/11, *bharat gupta * bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org


 I tracked the movement of water molecules around residues 65 to 67 of my
 protein (GFP crystal structure) .. According to the literature water should
 not enter the protein (reason being the cage like structure of GFP) .. but
 in VMD, 2 water molecules have been tracked to interact with chromophore ...
 So , I am a bit confused as it should not have happened ??


 We can't tell. We don't know if your simulation model is flawed, the
 literature is wrong, your modified GFP do let water in, or your observations
 of interacting with the chromophore aren't right.


 ... For my analysis  I need to check whether the water is entering the
 protein or not .. Since I have simulated some variant structures (long
 loops) of GFP and I need to check how this structure would or would not lead
 to the entrance of water ??


 To observe a transit, look for snapshots where they were in one place, and
 snapshots where they were in another.

 Mark



 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:




 On 01/31/11, *bharat gupta * bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am completed a 3 ns simulation of a 230 aa protein .. Now I want to
 check whether the water is entering the proteins and through which side of
 the protein .. Since the whole protein is surrounded by water I don't know
 how this can be done .. is there any command to check .. also I have tried
 doing it in VMD but there I am not able to do so ??


 Use g_select to create index groups of waters within a known distance of
 a central point. Then look at those groups in VMD.

 Mark




 Pls help

 --
 Bharat
 Ph.D. Candidate
 Room No. : 7202A, 2nd Floor
 Biomolecular Engineering Laboratory
 Division of Chemical Engineering and Polymer Science
 Pusan National University
 Busan -609735
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Re: Fwd: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation

2011-01-30 Thread Mark Abraham


On 01/31/11, bharat gupta  bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 I followed the lysozyme tutorial step by step and everything seems to be fine 
 and the literature cannot be wrong as it has been proved ..
 

Is your model of the chromophore reasonable? IIRC forming the chromophore 
requires making some new bonds.


 I have repeated this simulation second time...
 
 
If you don't tell us how you assessed 2 water molecules have been tracked to 
interact with chromophore in such a way that somebody could (in principle) 
repeat it, then we'll just assume you've done it wrongly.

I called g_select with these inputs to make an index file, then used 
editconf like this with that index file to make a subset structure and loaded 
that in VMD to compare with the original structure, and saw this is a method.

Then you asked how to see whether the loops were letting water in. If there 
were waters interacting with the chromophore, then it seems you've proved they 
were letting water in. But that hinges on whether we believe your previous 
statements :-)

 
 
 

  I want to ask one thing that during solvation step and equilibration step 
 water is mixed with the protein so it means that the structure should not 
 have water inside it during equilibration step itself or not ?
 
 

Read genbox -h

Mark


 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  
  On 01/31/11, bharat gupta  bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   
   
   
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
   
   
   Date: Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:30 PM
   Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation
   To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
   
   
   
   
   I tracked the movement of water molecules around residues 65 to 67 of my 
   protein (GFP crystal structure) .. According to the literature water 
   should not enter the protein (reason being the cage like structure of 
   GFP) .. but in VMD, 2 water molecules have been tracked to interact with 
   chromophore ... So , I am a bit confused as it should not have happened ??
   
   
   
  
  
  We can't tell. We don't know if your simulation model is flawed, the 
  literature is wrong, your modified GFP do let water in, or your 
  observations of interacting with the chromophore aren't right.
  
  
  
... For my analysis  I need to check whether the water is entering the 
   protein or not .. Since I have simulated some variant structures (long 
   loops) of GFP and I need to check how this structure would or would not 
   lead to the entrance of water ??
   
   
   
  
  
  To observe a transit, look for snapshots where they were in one place, and 
  snapshots where they were in another.
  
  Mark
  
  
  
  
   
   
   On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au 
   wrote:
   
   
   
   
   





On 01/31/11, bharat gupta  bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I am completed a 3 ns simulation of a 230 aa protein .. Now I want to 
 check whether the water is entering the proteins and through which 
 side of the protein .. Since the whole protein is surrounded by water 
 I don't know how this can be done .. is there any command to check .. 
 also I have tried doing it in VMD but there I am not able to do so ??
 
 
 
 
 


Use g_select to create index groups of waters within a known distance 
of a central point. Then look at those groups in VMD.

Mark




 
 
 
 
 
 Pls help
 
 -- 
 Bharat
 Ph.D. Candidate
 Room No. : 7202A, 2nd Floor
 Biomolecular Engineering Laboratory
 Division of Chemical Engineering and Polymer Science
 Pusan National University
 
 
 
 
 Busan -609735
 South Korea
 Lab phone no. - +82-51-510-3680, +82-51-583-8343Mobile no. - 
 010-5818-3680
 E-mail : monu46...@yahoo.com
 
 
 
 
 
 






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   Division of Chemical Engineering and Polymer Science
   Pusan National University
   Busan -609735
   South Korea
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Re: Fwd: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation

2011-01-30 Thread bharat gupta
I selected the water molecules but using atom selection in VMD by using the
following command  water and within 5 of resid 65 to 67, 65 to 67 is the
chromophore position ... some 2 or 3 water molecules were found near to the
chromophore i.e. inside the beta barrel ... Practically it should not happen
..

Also I checked the structure that I saved after genbox command .. and I
found some 3 water molecules inside the barrel .. After reading about genbox
.. what I understood is that it solvates the protein in specified solvent
... but still i donot understand whether during solvation step the water
will go inside the barrel or not ... pls help as its a bit confusing ??

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:



 On 01/31/11, *bharat gupta * bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 I followed the lysozyme tutorial step by step and everything seems to be
 fine and the literature cannot be wrong as it has been proved ..


 Is your model of the chromophore reasonable? IIRC forming the chromophore
 requires making some new bonds.


 I have repeated this simulation second time...

 If you don't tell us how you assessed 2 water molecules have been tracked
 to interact with chromophore in such a way that somebody could (in
 principle) repeat it, then we'll just assume you've done it wrongly.

 I called g_select with these inputs to make an index file, then used
 editconf like this with that index file to make a subset structure and
 loaded that in VMD to compare with the original structure, and saw this
 is a method.

 Then you asked how to see whether the loops were letting water in. If there
 were waters interacting with the chromophore, then it seems you've proved
 they were letting water in. But that hinges on whether we believe your
 previous statements :-)


 I want to ask one thing that during solvation step and equilibration step
 water is mixed with the protein so it means that the structure should not
 have water inside it during equilibration step itself or not ?


 Read genbox -h


 Mark

 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:



 On 01/31/11, *bharat gupta * bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:



 -- Forwarded message --
 From: bharat gupta bharat.85.m...@gmail.com
 Date: Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Monitoring the water movement during simulation
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org


 I tracked the movement of water molecules around residues 65 to 67 of my
 protein (GFP crystal structure) .. According to the literature water should
 not enter the protein (reason being the cage like structure of GFP) .. but
 in VMD, 2 water molecules have been tracked to interact with chromophore ...
 So , I am a bit confused as it should not have happened ??


 We can't tell. We don't know if your simulation model is flawed, the
 literature is wrong, your modified GFP do let water in, or your observations
 of interacting with the chromophore aren't right.


 ... For my analysis  I need to check whether the water is entering the
 protein or not .. Since I have simulated some variant structures (long
 loops) of GFP and I need to check how this structure would or would not lead
 to the entrance of water ??


 To observe a transit, look for snapshots where they were in one place, and
 snapshots where they were in another.

 Mark




 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.auwrote:




 On 01/31/11, *bharat gupta * bharat.85.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am completed a 3 ns simulation of a 230 aa protein .. Now I want to
 check whether the water is entering the proteins and through which side of
 the protein .. Since the whole protein is surrounded by water I don't know
 how this can be done .. is there any command to check .. also I have tried
 doing it in VMD but there I am not able to do so ??


 Use g_select to create index groups of waters within a known distance of
 a central point. Then look at those groups in VMD.

 Mark




 Pls help

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